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Star Wars Sequel Trilogy Rumors
Stop reading if you're spoiler paranoid. ChazeFroy writes "The actor who played Chewbacca in the original Star Wars trilogy, Peter Mayhew, will be in Episode III. Of course, this has been previously reported and comes as no surprise. However, TheForce is reporting that Mayhew's contract contains a stipulation that he must also appear in Episodes 7, 8, and 9. This was first reported in the British movie magazine Hot Dog, whose December issue with this news just hit US newstands."
Or there will be hell to pay. Nothing else was worth reading.
I am a science fantasy fan
i wait till the 9 dvd pack, star wars forever
how the end always is
If Episode III isn't incredible, Mr. Lucas can forget about any other Episodes.
Star Wars Episode 7: Milking the Cash Cow
Star Wars Episode 8: Beating a Dead Horse
Star Wars Episode 9: Please God, Make it Stop Already!
Do not read this sig.
Episode VI, I and II have all been mediocre, so why would anyone even bother seeing episode III much less VII, VIII, or IX?
My other sig is extremely clever...
The force is strong with me. I see these movies coming out, and thousands of voices scream out in excitement, followed by anger.
The future is always cloudy.
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7, 8 and 9? I must be one uninformed geek. I thought I only had 1 more disapointing movie left to watch.
Th
I guess there's no end to Lucas' whoreness.
Yeah, but the last three movies are going to be a re-write of LotR.
Here's hoping for another Return of the King!
-Adam
What would Chewbacca do... if you took him to see the new Star Wars movies? He'd rip your arm off and beat you with the bloody end.
I have to say, as much as I love Star Wars, I will have to seriously think about even going to see Episode 3. I'm not terribly hopeful. 3 more movies just doesn't fill me with any joy any more. From a worldwide love to a worldwide joke. Now -that's- a screwup.
Please, please don't let Lucas write anymore!!! Empire was _awesome_ and just so overshadows Eps 1 & 2...
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Why did it take for this magazine to get to the US for this information to get widely publicized?
Anyways... 3 more Star Wars movies just doesn't excite me as much as it might have. After seeing Lucas sodomize the Episodes I and II like he did, I can't imagine he's going to have some great revelation (*cough*Jar Jar binks needs to die*cough*) and make three great movies.
Lets guess at some titles:
Episode 7: Jar Jar Strikes Back
Episode 8: Jar Jar Has Kids
Episode 9: The Destruction of the Star Wars Fan Base
Ughh...
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The petition would be :
George, you've got the content control, it's your universe, you define it. BUT, someone else writes the scripts and dialogue, someone else produces it, and someone else directs it.
At one point (about 3 years ago) i coulda swore i read that Peter Mayhew had died. I was bummed.
Nice to see he's in good shape otherwise.
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Realizing I through III will not turn out to be the worshipped saga he had hoped for, and since LotR now defines the high-quality fantasy saga, George wants another shot to redeem it all?
This "series" was already ruined with Ep. I and II. Any more of this is just beating a dead horse.
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Yep, just went out and bout the new Star Wars Tera-Peta-Giga Vid cube box set! Got all 4872 episodes in one nice little box.. with over 3 years of special features and directors comments!
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Now VI, VII, and VII. Star Wars - teaching Roman numerals to whole new generation.
the major advances in civilization are processes which all but wreck the societies in which they occur - A.N. White
I remember back in around 1996 seeing slots for eps I,II,III,IV,V,VI and VII,VIII,IX on the StarWars.com homepage. Though a recent trip to the WayBack Machine seems to refute that memory. But they only go back to Dec 30th of '96 and my memory of VII,VIII,IX is a pretty clear one I'm adamant of having seen. But, interestingly enough Lucas had made some pretty clear statements that he NEVER intended to make a VII,VIII,IX trilogy. But I chalk those statements up to the same sort of Soviet revisionist history that made Greedo shoot first.
However, as we all know, the prequels don't hold a CANDEL to the originals. Maybe Lucas is FINALLY starting to realize this and hoping to restore the franchise to it's former glory, removing the tarnish of eps I and II. If that be the case, I truly hope that he can. Truly.
Quod scripsi, scripsi.
Or after EpII at least that's what I thought. But imagine what they'll have to do to make 7,8, and 9. There's no way they can get back all the original actors. So that means CG actors, which is a terrible idea, or brand new story lines with plots based solely on huge CG battle scenes (which given Lucas' skill as a director, also a terrible idea).
George should cut his losses and TRY SOMETHING NEW. Sequelitis is continually lowering the standards of an already washed-out industry.
Lucas said that Ep. 7-9 would depend on the success of Ep. 1-3.
That "CG" labeled crackpipe must have blurred his mind.
Well George, lets see how long the lines in front of the cinemas will be this time.
Just what the world needs, another crappy scifi trilogy. After the fiascoes in storytelling that have been Episodes 1 & 2, why would anyone want to go see these sequel movies? It's bad enough that Lucas is shoving Geriatric Jones and the Lost Walking Cane on us.
Granted, I'm going to go see Episode 3, but I'll not be participating in any sort of line party for it, and I may even opt to rent at as opposed to seeing it in the theater. I'll be surprised if it even manages to match Episode 2's BO, and Episode 2's BO was nowhere near Episode 1's BO.
(BO=Body Odor or Box Office, whichever.)
You're only as smart as your brain.
If you thought that you were going to have to wait a long time to get the original trilogy DVDs before...
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Has there actualy been books about theses? I thought I remember hearing Lucas never wanted to write them?
'Go for the eyes, Boo, go for the eyes, aaarrrrrrrr!' -- Minsc
IMNAAA (not an acting agent), but isn't this just the sort of thing that gets tossed into lower-paid actor's contracts when a studio is simply hedging its bets? I like the 'bacca as well as the next dude, but he is probably paid less than, say Harrison Ford, on average. It seems likely to me that it wouldn't cost the studio much (if anything) to obligate him in this regard.
Now, if the face-time Ep. 6 folks (Ford, Fisher, Hamilton, et al.) start getting signed into contracts like this then we would be talking.
Yogurt: God willing, we'll all meet again in Spaceballs II: The Search For More Money.
But...why does everyone think that the new Star Wars movies suck? I agree, they're friggin' terrible. Lucas has enough money to hire talented script writer and at least make a good script, but he doesn't seem to do that even. And lets not forget Jar Jar. Who the hell thought that was a good idea? I don't know. Does he just not care, because no matter what crap he puts out, all of us geeks are going to go see it? Sorry for being slightly off topic...but I've been wondering about this for awhile and would like to hear other's opinions.
Let's withhold judgement for a little while. The entire prequel concept, in retrospect, seems doomed to be derided by Star Wars geeks by its very nature.....
But if Lucas can take the lessons he has (hopefully!) learned from the prequels and make a third Sequel trilogy that takes these lessons into account -- hopefully by going with a respected existing storyline like Zahn's books -- the salvation of the Star Wars mythology is not out of the question....
Yes - Star Wars Episodes 7,8 and 9 would be a great idea. However only if George Lucas moves into an "Executive Producer" role only.
The new Star Wars could then be made by the next generation of up and coming directors and script writers, and might actually not suck.
I wouldn't take stock in this. How old is George Lucas now, 55 60? It takes him roughly 8-10 years a trilogy. He'ld be in a wheelchair by the time he finished the next ones if he even lived that long. I would think he wants to move on and do other things. And who would play all the original roles. All the main actors have not aged well and it would be very shitty to not have Mark Hammil reprise his role as Luke Skywalker or Harrison Ford play Han Solo.
Hold up, wait a minute, let me put some pimpin in it
This is not the sig line you are looking for... -- Old Jedi Sig Line Trick
I hope you weren't suggesting that they call it "Star Wars Forever..." We all know what that does to the development process...
True story.
But absolutely NONE of the post episode 6 books are canon. In fact as we've seen 4-6 are apparently no longer canon either. No, if we see 7, 8, & 9. Then there will need to be a re-edit/issue of 1-6 to correct for all of the new continuity issues added to the story.
I'm still pissed over the Stat Wars newspaper strip that ran around 1978/79 which was called cannon at the time and apparently one of the only works given Lucas' story blessing. This strip documented the clone wars and the adventures of C3PO and R2-D2 with Obi-Wan pre-episode 6. All of that story was trashed... why?
At the current rate at which these movies are being made, George has little time left to make 3 more episodes. Unless 7, 8 and 9 are made all at once (ala the LOTR trilogy) you can forget about George Lucas making the final 3 films.
speaking as one who Knows, i can safely say that this isn't true
1) I appreciate the spoiler notice, but perhaps a little more insulation between spoiler warning and spoiler would be in order?
2) Fortunately, learning who will be wearing the wookie suit barely qualifies as a spoiler. If the news was that Lucas was going to be suing everyone posting inane "Chewbacca defense" comments in SCO stories (for crying out loud, it wasn't even funny on South Park), that'd be news.
3) Sorry to burst the British bubbles, but you're not finding "Hot Dog" on any US newsstand except for the gimmicky superinternational stands in a handful of cities. Most of us remember "Hot Dog" as the magazine for kids too young to read "Dynamite".
What I'm listening to now on Pandora...
The never ending "Police Academy" holocost
A goal is a dream with a deadline
They could just have Mayhew grow out his hair and skip the makeup all together. It will also be the right shade of grey for playing an old Wookie.
After enjoying the accelerated release schedule of the Matrix and Lord of the Rings trilogies, it feels like I should expect a glacier to show up at the local theater before number 7 does.
Boom Shanka
that Americans are reluctant to pick up British food... even if its a Hot Dog.
So which will suck more, Episode 3 or Matrix Revolutions? Vegas has 3 to 2 on Revolutions
I used to think Star Wars 3-5 where amazing...now I think of them of some sort of fluke.
I cant imagine anyone taking Lucas seriously these days. Cant he see that all that CGI looks like one massive cartoon..take a look at Jar Jar for example. I wonder if Lucas thought Rodger Rabbit consisted soley of unkown actors.
Well I would HOPE SO! If anyone but Peter Mayhew played Chewbacca I just don't think it would pass... I mean, it takes some serious talent to walk around in a big furry costume for a while... And while they're at it they better get the same people for C3P0 and Vader or this movie just won't quite work!
-matt
Why bother with real, human actors in Episodes 7-9 when Lucas can just CGI all the main characters? I mean, come on, digital Jar-Jar, digital ewoks, digital Chewbacca... it's the wave of the future! - albeit a future from long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away.
I agree with the fellow who mentioned Zahn's trilogy.. unfortunately, however, it focuses on the characters from eps 4-6, which are now 25 years older than they were. (And in the case of a couple of them, full of psychiatric disorders)
I'm not sure where Lucas could go with 7-9, but if it's anywhere near 1-3 he should just stop while he's behind.
In a digital world there can be only one..
The one, the only, MrDigital.
I would not mind seeing sequels made from Heir to the Empire. Admiral Thrawn kicked some rebel butt without requiring props such as the force.
I don't understand it. Surely any of the actors playing a character whose face is hidden and voice isn't used (i.e. Chewbacca, R2D2, or Darth Vader) is completely dispensable. Why is it such a big deal to keep Peter Mahew? The only qualification for someone replacing him would be height!
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"Oh thank God! I'll may yet eat another meal that wasn't first deposited in a dumpster!"
There's a Mercedes gap too. I want one and can't afford one, but it's not government's job to do anything about it.
My cousin was a small-time actor for a few years, and almost all of his contracts had clauses like that, but it really didn't mean much
Wow. You fail it. So hardcore.
How can we trust TheForce.net? Aren't they owned by Lucas?
Wouldn't that make them highly filtered by Lucas' cronies?
Seems like looking to ABC for Disney spoilers.
Episode I: $431,088,295
Episode II: $310,675,583
I think what we're seeing here are at least + 741,000,000 reasons Lucas is considering 7,8,9.
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Just give me a Harrison Ford cameo and all will be well.
Ok so this shouldn't be bad news at all...
Don't get me wrong, I think Lucas is a terrible writer since 1977. However, I grew up with these movies and *the one* thing that I always wanted to see is the future of whatever happened after episode VI.
Of course there are tons of novels and comics... but ... isn't it a little bit interesting to just imagine SEEING Han, Leia and all the gang as good ol' pals? That can only happen in a movie...
But of course.. I wouldn't expect much from the story or other *NEW* Characters.
Would u think Carrie is that hot with so many wrinkles and overwight?.. Well after all she had to take care of a reckless ex-smuggler... well.. at least we know Han (Harrison) is IN SHAPE =P
Just my two cents
... George Lucas
~Turd
"I felt a great disturbance in movie buffs... as if millions of viewers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."
Most likely their own organs went into revolt. Geeks everywhere left Episode II with their brains subconciously chanting: "If you are so stupid to watch the next one, I will KILL YOU!"
~D
This sig has been enciphered with a one-time pad. It could say almost anything.
While I really would like an episode 7, 8, or 9, if it contradicts practically everything in the EU I am going to be VERY annoyed. A trilogy based on the Thrawn trilogy would be awesome, or the New Jedi Order (but alas, the New Jedi Order is some 19 books long, so I doubt they'll make THAT many movies).
I hope its based on Zhan's Thrawn trilogy, or is original (but fitts in with the other Expanded Universe books).
Mark Hamill wouldn't even fit into his costume with his belly!
This could be like a baseball player, like Jack Wilson - SS for the Pirates, having a clause written into his contract that includes a bonus for winning World Series MVP. Does this mean it is even remotely likely that is going to happen? Much as we like Jack here in Pgh - there's no way.
You find this humorous, centurion?
pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasep
Oh, the heck with it - I don't care. I'm going outside.
I want to drag this out as long as possible. Bring me my protractor.
I can only hope that Lucas will at some point realize that special effects cannot save a bad story. Especially when everything is in gharish cartooney colors.
If it's not on fire, it's a software problem.
Forget the movie, where are the Spaceballs lunch box, breakfast cereal, toliet paper, window/LCD monitors, and flame throwers they promised us?
True story.
It was the sound of millions of Star Wars fans yelling "Can we FINALLY see Jar Jar DIE? Please!?" :P
"The actor who played Chewbacca in the original Star Wars trilogy, Peter Mayhew, will be in Episode III. Of course, this has been previously reported and comes as no surprise. However, TheForce is reporting that Mayhew's contract contains a stipulation that he must also appear in Episodes 7, 8, and 9.
Why bother with him then? If ever a character could be played by someone else it would be Chewbacca! No recognizable voice, or face, or anything. Just a 6'6" guy in a wookie costume with sound effects added in after the fact. I don't mean to be rude to Mr. Mayhew, but what leveridge does he have?
Star Wars. What's that about? Is it good, or it whack?
Apparently, there will be a scene in episode VII where Chewbacca addresses the governing council on Cashyyyk. Mr Lucas is developing a Wookie language expressly for this purpose. The grammar and vocabulary will be available before the release so that die hard fans can follow along without reading the subtitles.
A republic cannot succeed till it contains a certain body of men imbued with the principles of justice and honour.
Actually, I've found numerous depictions of him dying around the Internet. All somewhat satisfying.
But I'd really rather not see him die in the movie, I'd much rather take place in the killing of the root of all stupidity myself. A nice hands-on experience.
True story.
Not only that, but he should cut down on the bluescreen stuff and get back to having actors actually film sceens together as opposed to piecing it together digitally afterwards.
Finally, he should get rid of references to american pop culture. No cheesy race announcers bantering back and forth and no robotic football games happening in the background. Oh, and Dean Kamen wants his Segway back, since most of the 'droids in Ep2 resemble it in someway.
Lasers Controlled Games!
Nothing a few million $ couldn't rectify.
So what would Episodes 7-9 be like...
<Daydream Sequence>
Star Wars, Episode 7: A New Threat
Synopsis: Luke and Leia get married and head off on a honeymoon, leaving Han Solo and Chewbacca to watch over selection of the new senate. Han Solo gets bored and starts hyperspace download site of music and video content against the wishes of the immensely powerful IGRIMPAA (Inter Galactic Recording Industry and Motion Picture Artists Association), a thinly veiled group of thugs and bandits who have kept entertainers in thrall. Big cruisers appear out of hyperspace around Coruscant and Jar Jar Bings, in their employe serves subpoenas, furthering audience animosity.
Star Wars, Episode 8: Just An Awufl Mess
Synopsis: Luke and Leia return to Coruscant and find the IGRIMPAA firmly running things, Han Solo and Chewbacca rotting in prison and several worlds in outright rebellion. Luke procedes to reform a Jedi council, but finds space cruiser bombs going off all over the place. President Jar Jar Binks attempts to alay Luke's concerns, until it's found Leia has an ePod loaded with bootleg tunes from Naboo. Jar Jar reveals well kept secret that he is master of dark side and cuts off Luke's other hand in epic lightsabre battle. Han and Chewy come to rescue and all flee to the a distant world only to find another massive Deathstar built with IGRIMPAA profits.
Star Wars, Episode 9: Last of the Red-Hot Jedi
Synopsis: Luke and Leia's child, Xyzzy, demonstrates great skill with the force and greater skill with the source, hacks into DeathStar and shuts it down, in a bit of a special effects let-down, just see big ball with lights go out, no explosion. Luke and Leia return to Coruscant, along with Han and Chewbacca and in a final battle Luke duels with Jar Jar, both slice each other in half and last threat is brought to an end, except for offspring of Skywalkers, who demonstrates a slight inclination to power and position and a bit of an angry streak. We've been here before, no?
</Daydream Sequence>
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
we have microsoft to thank for this, as the windows will be used for rendering the CGI.
Nothing else has the capability
Heh. Imagine if they made that into a contest - "You can play the part of the stormtrooper that whacks Jar Jar Binks!"
;)
It'd be *huge*
A few typos; it should have read:
Star Wars Episode 7: Beating the Cash Cow
Star Wars Episode 8: Milking a Dead Horse
Star Wars Episode 9: If There Were A God, It Would Have Stopped Already
George Lucas: You can't win, Peter. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
C-3PO: R2 says that the chances of episodes 7-9 surviving are 725 to 1. Actually R2 has been known to make mistakes... from time to time... Oh dear...
C-3PO: Sir, the possibility of successfully extending this series is approximately 3,720 to 1!
Lucas: Never tell me the odds!
Typos... that's just how I role.
Episodes 7, 8 and 9 are supposed to deal with a character that is supposed to be introduced in Episode 3. These episodes will take place after the New Jedi Order series. That allows for Lucas to use the original stars (Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Peter Mayhew, etc.) and place them into the timeline approximately 30 years after A New Hope which is right around the end of the Yuuzhan Vong series (NJO). This is perfect. In 2007 these performers will be 30 years older than they were when they took the roles in the first place. This gives a lot of credibility to the whole concept.
Stop reading if you're spoiler paranoid.
Luke Skywalker kills his father Darth Vader.
All you need is a tall guy to stick in a dog suit. He has to go "Rawwwr!" once in a while. Or is the original actor the only one who can do that properly?
Lucas has stated publicly and repeatedly that there never were plans for Episodes 7-8-9. The arc of the story works out in six parts. That's it. The old 9-part cycle story goes back to some erroneous newspaper reporting in the 1970s, and was NEVER true. Lucas has said this in many a public forum over and over and over.
Besides, the story really has nowhere to go for the purposes of film. Sure there's plenty of lousy books out there that tell some poorly conceived stories beyond Episode 6. The only good sequel series was the original "Heir To The Empire" series by Timothy Zahn back in 1991. (Once "Truce at Bakura" hit the shelves it was all over....)
But look, the Empire is defeated. The Death Star destroyed, the Republic is restored. The story is over. What else is there worth telling on a the big screen?
And judging by Lucas' skill with stor concepts these days, I really don't want any more Star Wars movies after Episode three is complete. Lucas has made a bad judgement call by choosing to direct. He was good with ANH, but made the right call by having Irving Kershner direct ESB.
His direction in Phantom Menanace and Attack of Clones has been abysmal, the performances of the "actors" only moreso (in part because the dialog they've been given is atrocious) and the plot has been sadly sub-par all around. He needs serious creative help to salvage the one last chapter of the series if he has any hope of salvaging his reputation as a maker of epic sci fi films.
Let's get the job -- such as it is -- over with and let the good bits and the bad bits (we know which is which) take their rightful place in film history. Lucas should produce and never never never direct a film or write dialog again, especially if its a series of Star Wars sequels.
Just my little rant of the moment.
I'd like to see what Triumph the Insult Comic Dog thinks of that!
B ri en/video/triumph.shtml
http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Late_Night_with_Conan_O'
(Hit the "Triumph Visits the 'Star Wars' Nerds Part One" link at the bottom)
Alright! If they make Star Wars 7, 8 and 9 that means that the MAJORITY of the Star Wars movies will suck ass! Get it done quickly Lucas and Co., so I can *not* waste my money in the theaters! I'm really looking forward to disdaining them!
Episodes 7-9 would not be part of the Extended Universe would they?
I was under the impression that episodes 7-9 were at least outlined by Lucas just as 1-3 were before they made #4.
Star Wars movies are becoming like a horrific accident scene. Terrifying and excruciatingly painful, yet we feel compelled to watch. I'd like to do a survey:
1. What percentage of geeks expect to see EpIII?
2. Of those going to see EpIII, what percentage expect it to be anything other than a suckfest?
Anticipated answers:
1. 95%
2. 1%
If GL makes VII-IX, you KNOW everyone is going to go. How can he pass up the chance to make that much money on what amounts to another 9 years of playing with cool toys without any need to work on boring stuff like sympathetic characters or realistic dialog?
dinner: it's what's for beer
One of the best sources for information on this is from TheForce.Net's boards (Link is to the spoilers board).
Of course, I happen to moderate at those boards, so I might be a little biased.
Kimball_Kinnison
I hate to say this, and I know my Karma will suffer for it, but as an old-timer, and with Karma to spare....
LIKE I CARE?!?!?!
SW went downhill from Episode 1, and I can see no way to revive it. I don't care anymore about it, and I honestly believe that most of us here could really care less about what happens with SW.
And of course, somebody is going to mod me down as off-topic or as a troll, but I needed to get that off my chest (keyboard?)
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I know this is obvious, but I just wanted to point out that
Mayhew's contract contains a stipulation that he must also appear in Episodes 7, 8, and 9
Only says that if there is a 7, 8, or 9, then Mayhew must appear in them. It does not mean that there must be an episode 7, 8, and/or 9.
This looks, as another poster pointed out, like a case of hedging one's bets. Nothing to see here, move along...
I forgot the episode number but it's the one where Homer becomes the owner of the nuclear power plant and you see Lenny and Carl duking it out with nuclear fuel rods like lightsabers all while saying Lenny: "Phantom Menance sucked more" Carl: "I say Attack of the Clones sucked more"
and o yea...this is meant to be a funny.
I'll believe this when I see the contract for myself.
I know that this is common knowledge, but Lucas has said repeatedly in recent years that he has not intention of doing the 'sequel' episodes.
Though I do clearly remember several magazine interviews in 1977 and 78 where he mentioned doing all 9 stories.
Maybe GL has had a change of heart(developed more greed?) and his PR team hasn't figured out the right time to make an announcement yet.
Who knows?
wbs.
Huh?
Let's get started on how the OP doesn't understand public key encryption, even though he tries to make a joke about it in his sig.
The next film will have to be Ep III, but the starting credits for the one after that should say Ep XVI. That way there will be throngs of hysterical fans who won't be satisfied until they've taken out their wallets and thrown money at each of the nine intervening films: VII through XV.
You write your nine symphonies, then you die.
Is anyone else hoping that Mace doesn't die off? If Lucas can screw up the history of Boba Fett and get away it, he might as well keep Mace Windu alive.
He's currently living in (huh? Where?)- population 6500. The only other claim to fame is that we have one of the few drive-in movie theaters left in existance. Mr. Mayhew (who is actually a really cool and funny guy) has spent the last few years living there and acting at the local opera house. Yea, its wierd to see Chewie walk into the middle of a Rogers and Hammerstien musical. He has a daughter who is now a freshman in college, and attended Granbury High School (Far, Above the Brazos River; Bathed in golden light!) When episode II came out she was in HS, and my younger sister tells me there was intense competition to be dating her at the time of the premier. IIRC the guy who won that sweepstakes got to go to the premier as the date of Chewies daughter...
So yea- I'm not really surprised he has a contract for the next three. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he has a contract for the next 387. He's getting older, the condition that made him so tall has started to really fuck with his knees, and he's doing community theater. If you were him, wouldn't you do everything to assure yourself that you'd be in on it if the next shot at residuals came along?
I'll talk to the local town gossip tonight and see if I can't find out some more.
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
-If- there are three more movies made, -and- they need someone to play Chewie, -then- he'll be the one to do it if still around, and he can't refuse. This in no way stipulates that they -must- make three movies, or even that they -will- ... only that he would be required to play Chewie if they ever again need someone to do so.
It's a great way to give both actors and the audience some hope for more movies, and it lets them worry a little less about the 'how' of making more movies by already having actors lined up and contracts signed. Sheesh. Can't you boys be a little more skeptical?
He'll knock your cock, you bastard!
I felt a great disturbance in the force, like a million geeks all crying out in horror at once.
"For years, I struggled with reality... but I'm happy to say I finally won out over it." -- Elwood P. Dowd
...from *dying* in case they do decide to do 7/8/9, like, thirty years from now? :P
That 7/8/9 appearance requirement is probably, like others have said, the studio hedging their bets. Lucas said a good while back he wasn't going to do a sequel trilogy. But, who knows - he may let others run with it at some point.
"People" using "unnecessary" quotes should be "shot".
IT ISSEEE GOOOOOOODE!!!11
I'm just waiting for another Staw Wars holiday special.
It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
Great. I was hanging for the box set of all 6 at the end of 2005. But I wasn't sure which edition to get. Normal edition, special edition, super special edition et. al. Now I have to wait for another 3 movies to be released? AHHHHH!
People don't realize.. ep. 1, 2 & 3 were supposed to piss you off. You all are missing the overarching theme of these movies, and that is that before the Empire, the universe was a really stupid and boring place... These movies are basically a testiment to how we need totalitarian government to keep our science fiction interesting!
when you think about it...as it stands, anakin does not balance the force.
if Luke ends up being a good guy on the light side of the force, there is no dark side and hence no balance.
Luke must go to the dark side...all of the foreshadowing says he must, it is the only thing that makes sense. then Leya and Han's child will be the future of the Jedi, thus brining balance to the force.
I am the Alpha and the Omega-3
Back when Star Wars first came out, Lucas openly talked about 9 total episodes.
(Doesn't anyone remember these early interviews?)
They were doing the middle 3, then the first 3, then the last 3.
Now, I know, over the year, Lucas/LucasFilm has backed away from this, stating that there were only 6 total ever envisioned, but that just wasn't the case.
I think the problem with Episodes 1 and 2 (and unfortunately 3), is casting. The actors just aren't right for the parts (with the exception of McGregor and Lee).
You can quibble with the direction, but that's basically the director's job; put it up there and see if anyone likes his vision. I think both films could have been edited better, but they are what they are.
I may be in the minority, but I look forward to the later episodes.
So Lucas may do another trilogy. Good on him. But hang on....Slashdot readers dissaprove! "He's just trying to gouge us, he's destroyed my fond childhood memories", etc, etc, lather, rinse, repeat.
Pull your heads out of your asses. If you don't like the movies, don't go see them. Star Wars belongs to Lucas. He created it, he owns the empire, and if he wants to film himself slinging handfulls of his own shit at a Slashdot logo, and call it Episode 7, he can.
I doubt we'll ever see those movies, but I'd like to see them get made. And I wont cry on the Internet that they're not the same as the original trilogy. Which kind of makes sense, being that the original trilogy is two decades old. People change, the industry changes, ideas change, technologies change. Get over it. Go watch Lord of the Rings again if you want purity. More than likely, some of you whining peckerwoods will be watching Yet Another Tentacle Rape Hentai flick.
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
Is that half the love of the Original Star Wars came from the fact that we were kids and the movie just totally blew us away. Now? Not so much.
But posting about the guy that played CHEWBACCA?
Oh, wait, its about Chewbacca. That IS pretty fucking cool.
[yet another installment in the "I think what a lot of people are forgetting" series of posts.]
Cut to interior. JarJar being tortured. He screams things like "Yousa no-ah like-uh me?"
For 90 minutes.
At the end, Darth Vader in his dark helmet appears. Voice over James Earl Jones says "Now, is your time, to die."
JarJar falls over dead.
End credits roll.
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee dont direct it Lucas. I dont want Zahn's masterpiece ruined. This really would be a great trilogy. Grand Admiral Thrawn is such a great character, intelligent, patient, cunning, and down right evil against the New Republic. His 2nd in command Pelleaon is just as great. Other characters which would be kick ass on screen would be Mara Jade, Karrde, and Jourrus C'Boath!
> in Episodes 7, 8, and 9
Oh, the horror.
You mean that people are actually still paying attention to what Lucas is doing with Star Wars? I stopped caring after seeing the first two pieces of shit he churned out.
Manipulate the moderator system! Mod someone as "overrated" today.
Idiot. Pee Wee Herman is obviously Gollum!
1. Enthusiasm
2. Disillusionment
3. Panic
4. Search for the Guilty
5. Punishment of the Innocent
6. Praise and Honor for the Non-Participants
Um, actually it isn't a suit. They found him a defunct German Circus.
Sola Scriptura Sola Fide Sola Gratia Sola Christus
...but how do the prequels rape the fond memories of your childhood? I mean, sure episode 1 sucks - but episode 4 and 5 are still hella good.
Unless you mean the prequels made you realize how lame the series already was by episode 6. How hokey episode 4 was, and how the pinnacle of the series was directed and largely rewritten by people other than Lucas. That could understandably rob you of fond memories. Of course, just watching them again older and wiser would probably have done that.
I could also understand the anger if you were referring to the Greedo-shooting-first destruction of the original series called the 'Special Editions'. But you're not.
my pet theory is that the special editions, and episodes 1, and 2 are precisely the kinds of movies Lucas wanted to make from the beginning.
episode iv represented his first shot, and doubtlessly had piles of constructive criticism and rewrites. then it was proven a cash cow, and the sequel was given to a different director and featured much more rewriting. (largely hailed as the pinnacle of starwars). Then Lucas got control back, and turned out Jedi.
After more time and money, he skull-f#cked the original trilogy with the special editions. then came episode 1 and the truth was unavoidable. episode 2 was salt on a gaping wound.
Without actual creative criticism, Lucas just doesn't churn out the movies we always thought he wanted to make.
It's like the Wachowskis. They probably rewrote the first Matrix a dozen times and were making huge changes even to the shooting script. But who's going to slow down the process of making sequels to a cash cow by saying 'Whoa, guys - you've got some pacing issues that need to be fixed here, and some lame ass dialogue'?
No-one in Hollywood.
// "Can't clowns and pirates just -try- to get along?"
Making three trilogies has always been the plan.
I remember way back in 1978 or 1979 reading in a Star Wars fan magazine that Lucas even then already had basic outlines for all three trilogies and called the whole thing the "Journal of the Whills," i believe. It said there would be two more Star Wars movies, and then if George made any more he'd start with the first trilogy. Whether or not you like the movies, i think it's pretty cool that he's carrying out plans he made all those years ago. Me, i have hard time planning dinner.
The first two films were better, or at least according to my child. Remember folks, the movies were not made for adult geeks, but 10 year old kids. I am sure by the time the last three are made I will REALLY hate them and will refuse to go because I will be a hard headed old man. But my child, and perhaps his children, will love them. One thing Lucas does really well is children's movies... not 20-50 something trying to re-live their childhood movies.
04. The ewoks are now mostly CG and there are a lot more of them.
Allow me to be the first to say... grrreaaaaat....
Caveat: The scenes with Chewie will all have to be memories, seeing as how he is dead now...
Credibility ? Star Wars ?
The last word on this mater should go to Lucas: "I don't like sand. It is coarse and irritating. Not like you. You are soft and smooth."
No wonder Marcia left him.
After all, how could millions of film goers taking it up the ass not be considered pornographic?
It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
I'll tell you why. Because this is the creative (allowances, people) work of one, yet living, man; subject to all the exigencies of time, commitment, attitude and cash flow. Canon, my ass. He's got interns doing story and dialogue, dude. He's apparently got some long-term income requirements and he's not done buffing his helmet.
You can talk about the canon after he's dead. And then only if we decide the first one was worth all the crap he's put us through since.
CANON: fr. Latin: according to rule; fr. Greek: kanonikos. The modern literary usage denotes work judged to form a model of quality; in technical parlance: conforming to standard, definitive. Both connote the adjudicative valuation of peers.
Lucas cannot have a canon, whether his o'erweening ego demands it or not, though he may have conventions or principles.
illegitimii non ingravare
he's heading for that small movie.
H: I think I can get him before he gets there...he's almost in range.
(the small movie begins to take on the appearance of another trilogy)
B: That's no movie. It's Episode III.
H: The trailer's too good to be Episode III.
L: I have a very bad feeling about this.
H: Yeah, I think you're right. Full reverse! Chewie, lock in the auxiliary power. (the ship begins to shudder) Chewie, lock in the auxiliary power!
L: Why are we still moving towards it?
H: We're caught in the Lucas beam! It's pulling us in!
L: But there's gotta be something you can do!
H: There's nothing I can do about it, kid, I've already seen Episodes I and II. I'm going to have to shut down. But they're not going to get me without a fight!
Like most people who saw them in the theatre, I have good memories of the first three movies. I've seen them again and they've held up over the years, except some of the disco-y sets of Episode V and the muppets of Episode VI, but those are quibbles. But Episode I was a complete and utter embarrassment to everyone involved with it. The original trailer from 1999 was awesome, but the movie held up none of that promise. It was corny, it had horrific acting, it was predictable, it had obvious and major holes, it included inexcusible scenes such as slapstick comedy during the big invasion.
I didn't bother seeing Episode II in the theatre. I watched it at home after most everyone else had already rented it. It was kinda better, and the acting wasn't as painful, but it wasn't a good movie. It was a mishmash of supposedly story advancing plot and action scenes, but the two didn't mesh together. Overall, it was boring. I've forgotten most of the movie.
I have no plans to see Episode III, either in the theatre or at home.
Not only that, but he demands on not having to work on Life Day.
I cant even believe I am writting this..... but Star Wars to me is now like Metallica.
I was so diehard for both of them 10-15 years ago, and well, something has changed that. You could say they both got old and sold out, you could say I grew out of them, you could even say they were just trumped by better things. I dont quite know.
What I DO know is that my feelings for both are all but gone now. I have since completely given up on Metallica and I hate to say it, but those fond memories of concerts and thrashing around to 'Ride the Lightning' are a bit tainted because of the crapola they have put out in the past 10 years and the pompous school yard bully act they pulled with napster.
I think back to how hardcore I was with Metallica and I shake my head and get a bit embarrased.
Well, thats happening with Star Wars. I cant help but think that one more horrible film will effectivly put a nail in the coffin of my Star Wars memories.
I wish it wasnt that way, I wish the present didnt affect my feelings about the past, but it does.
Why would he do this? The whole point of a story is it has a beginning, a middle and an end. The original trilogy had that. Okay, so the beginning was a bit ropey: this ship appears from nowhere and starts blasting, and there's these two droids that we know little about.
But that's how stories often work best - they throw you in at the deep end so it's exciting and you have to think and work out what's going on. Okay, the prequels fill out the early story a bit for the hardcore fans, but nobody in their right minds, new to the series, would sit through 6+ hours of dross just to understand what the secret plans R2 had were, or to have the "I am your father" surprise ruined for them.
But while the prequels just made the series a bit worse, the sequels would be awful. Even if you think the beginning of the middle trilogy requires some fleshing out, the end is very good. It's a final, definitive end: the bad guy is dead and the galaxy is on the road towards stability. But for gods' sake, we don't need to see it get there. Star Wars became a parody of itself a long time ago, and that's a crying shame because before it was spoilt it was very, very good.
I've wasted four hours of my life on I and II: I suppose I'll waste two more on the off-chance that Boba Fett does something cool, or that Jar-Jar meets a spectacularly bloody end, but that's it. No more. If III is of the same quality as I and II I can't believe Lucas has the nerve even to bring it out, now that LoTR has shown us what can be done with the SF/fantasy epic genre.
"'I pass the test,' she said. 'I will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel.'"
- JRR Tolkien.
Would require re-doing 1-3, and at least in my mind 6. The ewoks were an abomination, and represented a massive sell-out to "childrens" movies.
He was right on with the first two, a G movie for all audiences, with enough plot and depth for older audiences, yet enough cool stuff to captivate children, as well as a reasonably straightforward plot arch (ala Joseph Campbell).
So many mistakes were made in the making of the first two (and I'd wager third) that it's hard to even pretend it's the same series. What makes it the most comical is that with tweaks to each of those stories they could have been grand. My favorite example is Anakin slaughtering all of the Raiders after finding his mother seconds before her dying (way out in the realm of possibility). More realistic would have been to have him sneak in, rescue her, only to have her get shot and then die in his arms and have him return with his rage to wipe them out.
I'm certain that thoughts like mine have been bouncing around Star Wars fans heads. Without copyright being what it is now, enterprising producers would be able to try and correct these wrongs inside of the fans lifetimes (at least with the founders copyright).
At this point I think I'll see Star Wars III at the dollar theater, and if it's better then a steaming pile I'll rent it and watch it on someone's surround sound setup.
Gawd I'd hate to be a movie-maker with an audience as impossible to please as some people here! Okay, ep 1 was a bit lame thanks to JarJar and ep 2 had some cringeworthy dialogue (like the scene in front of the fire when Anakin pours his heart out to whatsername) but for crying out loud were the originals any better? I mean, look at the script of ep 5! "Lap it up fuzzball" "Laserbrain!" "Nerf-herder!" "Who's scruffy?"
Compare the battle-scene on Hoth with the battle scene on Geonosis. You're not telling me that the attack of three AT-ATs was better to watch than the carnage and wrecking that we saw in ep 2!
Drill baby drill - on Mars
> Here's hoping, but I rather doubt there'll be
> 7-9 sadly. After all, it has been denied for
> so long, and Star Wars seems to have become
> "The life and death of Anakin Skywalker" so
> Ep 6 concludes it I suppose. Who knows?
A Reality TV Show two hours and fifteen minutes of Lucas meeting Habsro executives to work out which toys will be in the next movie. They should have seen the Jar Jar one, and the scene with the angry Burger King franchisee with ten thousand unsold Yoda cups is priceless!
Hmm, the guy is now 60 years old ... is he going to be up to running around blowing up Star Destroyers and carrying dismembered driods on his back ?
Chewie just won't be the same going "WUUUAAAAGGG *gasp* GGHHHHHHH!!!" ;-)
Casablanca: Bogart decides to stay but never gets a job. Bacall kicks his lazy ass off the couch and into the street.
Citizen Kane: Kane finally realizes that he needs therapy and later goes to a yoga retreat in Tahiti.
Catch-22: Most of the airbase crew are arrested and shot for insubordination. Yosarian surrenders the entire base to some Italian villagers.
It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
No mention of whether James Earl Jones does the voice of Vader in any of the new/touched-up scenes. I get that it's Hayden in the un-masked scene...just as it wasn't James Earl Jones. But what about other scenes?
And...does James Earl Jones do the (masked) voice of Darth Vader in Ep III? Or will we not see Vader (as we see him in Ep IV) in Ep III? Perhaps just a mangled Anakin, or an early version of the Darth Vader mask.
Hmm..I remember reading long ago, either in a fan magazine or something (maybe the book version of Star Wars?) that Anakin became disfigured, requiring the mask & prostheses, when Obi Wan threw him into a volcano. I hope Lucas remembered that (if it was in the book or in any way "official").
My main gripe about Ep I-II was the lack of continuity with Ep IV-VI -- like Lucas had forgotten the "vision" he'd come up with originally (supposedly he'd sketched out ALL NINE episodes before filming Star Wars). I guess he's fixing it now by modifying Ep IV, V, and VI. Sigh. Better than nothing I suppose...
Call me crazy, but Jackson handled LOTR with about the most love and care and achievement I could ever expect from making it into a Hollywood trilogy.
So, if Lucas doesn't want to do VII-IX himself, that's fine, but how about he let Jackson take over? You end up with a vastly superior sequel trilogy, and we'd probably get the movies 1 year apart instead of 3.
I agree completely, most people I know saw the first film when they were 7 or 8, they went to the cinema for their Birthday or they were allowed to stay up late and watch it on TV and they liked it.
I think the whole Star Wars thing is mainly a nostalgic thing, the first 3 films weren't really anything exceptionally special - Indiana Jones is much better but it reminded people of their childhood and liking Star Wars and collecting the figures and playing Star Wars games in the playground became a habit, a habit which has unfortunatley persisted into adulthood in a lot of unfortunate victims.
It's no wonder the last couple of films have been derided by nearly everyone except the most fanatic die hard fans because everyone was expecting to have a cinema experience similar to that first time all those years ago - when they were 7 or 8 forgetting that they are now in their mid to late 20's and not children anymore.
The new films were rubbish which didn't help, what I can't understand is how come anyone is interested in what George Lucas is doing when it's perfectly obvious all he's doing is generating vast amounts of cash for himself.
That was a rant and I apologise, I don't even know why I am reading this story.
[Princess Leia torture scene in Death Star]
The floating torture droid has been removed and replaced with a TV and DVD carousel player...
[Vader places Ep's 1-3 and 7-9 in carousel]
Vader: [finger poised over Play button] So Princess, where is the Rebels' secret base?
--- I wish I could hear the soundtrack to my life. That way I'd know when to duck.
Boy, reading through these posts I have never seen such an accumulation of bad vibes and negativity. Even articles about Micro$oft, SCO, and DRM are not such downers!
Well, I for one have enjoyed the Star Wars movies. I'm not saying they are the best movies ever, but as pieces of entertainment they have done the job - I don't begrudge the price of a single ticket, or even the popcorn I ate while watching. If Lucas makes some more, I'll probably go see them too. Why not?
It is the droids who pull the whole story together. This is a intentional, if loose goal.
Sort of like how what could have been called "A breif history of US events from 1945-1980 as witnessed by a baffoon" ended up being called "Forest Gump"
as well as none of the sequels ...
It appears that code isn't the only thing subject to re-writes. Time to opensource SW and let's make 1000 different versions of it.
"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a fat white guy who is threatened by change."
There are only 6 episodes!
Star Wars is the story of Anakin Skywalker (Darth Vader). Darth Vader dies in Episode VII therefore there can only be 6 episodes.
I suspect that if there is a 7,8,9 looming, that the reins of control will likely be handed over to Rick McCallum the producer of the 1,2,3 trilogy. In interviews he has always struck me as the true driving force these days behind Star Wars. I also suspect that with Lucas out of the way the movies would fair much better.
If there is a 7,8,9 Lucas will probably lay down the most basic story outlines, perhaps take on exec-producer/creative consultant role, the meat of the writing, directing, etc will be handed off to a trusted lutenent
Power Corrupts,Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely, leaving one person(group)in charge is absolutely corrupt.
Then this, Randall, will certainly give you fits at night.
Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
Don't think of it as a flame---it's more like an argument that does 3d6 fire damage
Okay, so this name I use here gives me away as some fanatic Star Wars fan. Well, I don't own my own set of Stormtrooper armor nor have I filmed my own FanFilm. But I do admit I love the movies and most of the books, etc...
I have nothing to back this up other than my own memory. There is a lot of rumoring that has supported this for some time as well. Back many many years ago, in a town far far away there was a moment I distintly remember from my childhood. There was a Star Wars tour that included folks dressed up as Darth, Chewie, Jawas, and assorted other creatures from the movies. We're talking late seventies early eighties here kids. Well, GL himself was a part of this and I distinctly remember him saying that there would be a total of 9 films, one every three years, over a 21 year time frame. First the middle tilogy, then the pre-quel trilogy, and finally the sequel trilogy.
Now, maybe this is just a childhood fantasy that I remember as truth even to this day. I was agast when GL stated he never planned on doing more than the first three--I knew all along that he was lying. So I find this report to be not surprising.
Now, if only GL will hand over the reigns and let me direct the last three, I can put everything back into order....Dreams do continue.
You have been disappointing us. While many of us grew up with your movies and loved them, things have been steadily going down hill.
1. Hire some real writers. You got help with Empire and it was the best movie to date. Don't try to do it yourself, you're real talent lies elsewhere.
2. Hire another director. Get somebody like Peter Jackson who can film the trilogy all at once. We don't like waiting years between movies. 1 year max between releases.
3. If it's cute. Leave it out. No more muppet'y characters like the Ewoks. No more frickin' Jar Jar type characters. I just can't take it. If you would like, I will offer my services for free. You can run this stuff by me and I will tell you if it sucks.
4. Give it an edge like Empire. Your loyal fan base is getting older. We want a real plot without all of the inconsistencies that you have written yourself into in the last two movies. Remember, we're adults now. We we love the world and the characters that you created for us but we really want to experience it on an adult level. I'll say it again. No more Jar Jar's.
5. Concentrate on what you really do best. Keep pushing the state of the art in film production. Push ILM to make the movie better while producing it faster and cheaper than anyone has ever done. Bring the costs of producing epic style movies down to a more reasonable level so that even more young artists can expose us to their visions without having a $100 million bank roll. The less expensive it gets, the more variety we will have.
6. Don't concentrate on making a blockbuster. Just make the best movie that you can and show it to us. We will pay to see it. You don't have to have product tie ins everywhere we go. No more cheesy market deals. No more Jar Jar's (did I already mention that?)
7. I want the new trilogy to hit DVD before I start collecting social security. Besides if you get off your ass on this, you can sell the previous movie on DVD right before you release the next movie. Easy advertising. (Don't do like LOTR though and release a 'normal' DVD and hold out the good one for a month or two. We like that about as much as we adore Jar Jar).
7. Use your influence and $$$ to get us completely digital theaters. We all want to see the new movies on a crystal clear screen that isn't going to be completely degraded the 3rd and 4th time we go to see it. (This assumes that you make them good).
You know what. Forget it all. I'm still pissed about the whole Jar Jar thing.
Ha! We'll never get original Star Wars DVDs. If we're lucky we might get that modified 20th aniversary crap (I'm not a fan of modified films), but it's debatable to call that lucky.
No more madness! Stop these horrid movies! Hope Fox'll make Firefly instead.
FIREFLY RULES!!!
...about the devastating results of too many alterations?
Is it possible that the Jonathan Darrell Mayhew in Granbury is Chewbacca's son? If so, he stole a couple cars... :)
You're right, and it's a shame. I loved the first three movies with a passion. Despite a lot of the obvious flaws in the first three movies, I used to see all these useful little life lessons in them that I felt were overwhelmingly profound (for example, getting angry over your problems doesn't solve them and only hurts you in the end).
I still have those little attachments to the first three movies, but in a more nostalgic sense, like "Remember when these movies used to mean something to me?" I can't even watch them anymore, because parts that I thought were cool are now just hollow (example: who cares what Yoda says about the force in ESB--Luke: "I can't believe it!" Yoda: "That is why you fail."--when we now know that the force is merely a genetic artifact).
I've tried hard to give Lucas the benefit of the doubt on the prequels, but, if I am totally honest with myself, I have to admit that the prequel movies stink. It would be great if I could just pretend that the prequels don't exist, but they have forever altered my preception of the original trilogy. I'll go see Episode III, and I'll be excited, but I have given up hope that it will redeem the whole series for me. I can't imagine that the hypothetical Episodes 7, 8, and 9 could ever redeem the series either.
After seeing the poorly-written, poorly-acted cartoons that Lucas has been trying to pass off as Star Wars films, I could care less about Episode 3, nevermind 7, 8 or 9. He's managed to kill the franchise as far as I'm concerned.
I believe Lucas was originally planning 7,8,9, but he's too old and so there weren't going to be any. Or am I wrong?
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Never criticize religion on Slashdot. You will be modded down for "Troll" no matter how factual it is.
Plans are for Lucas to make a cameo appearance in episode 9 in which it will be revealed that Jar Jar is his real father.
--- What?
when ToyFare interviewed Mark Hamill about toys and various other stuff, when asked about what his opinion of the new star wars movies was, he replied:
"It's like I was a member of the Beatles... and now it's just Wings."
+1 B5 Reference!
Or at least get writers who can write. The Buffy team is available.
There better not be a 7-8-9, i can't even beli-
sorry eveybody, can't finish this post, vomitted all over the keyboard.
Has anyone noticed just quite how bad the Hot Dog site is?
The "Current issue" and "Back Issue" link to 192.168.1.100/... addresses for crying out loud!
is that he couldn't care less what losers on slashdot think of his films.
Fan: "Who will be the leading character? Mark Hamil is old. Vader is dead."
George (sucking his "CG" labeled crackpipe): "JarJar! JarJar!!!"
From the Hotdog piece that TheForce quoted:
/. readers have a hard time expanding contractions (should've != "should of"), so I'll spell this one out for you.
but his contract also stipulates that he'd be required to appear in Episodes 7, 8, and 9.
"He'd" - I know some
"he'd be required" = "he WOULD be required"...
The interpretation that strikes me first is the following:
He WOULD be required to appear in episodes 7, 8, and 9 ***IF*** they were made.
Now then, if the language used was "he'll be required to appear" - THAT would be a different ballgame. "He WILL be required to appear..."
Year: 2038 Headline Star Wars Episode 9 Completed. Episodes I through VI redone to remove inconsistencies ( just under nuclear disaster caused by 32 bit date rollover ) 01 Anakin is now an Ewok in all episodes 02 Jabba The Hut actually molests Princess Leia 03 ...
Seems Star Wars will never be finished..
Eat at Joe's.
Why was EP VI afraid of EP VII?
Because VII VIII IX!
Give a hand, not a hand-out.
I mean, what more blatant of a rip-off is Quaker Chewy Granola Bars - http://quakerchewy.com/ No wonder Chewbacca is so bitchy all the time if this is all he has to eat. At least Scooby snacks had a touch o' the wacky weed.
and that's no joke.
Fact, Lucas has made it evident that "he" will NEVER make a sequel trilogy to the original trilogy. maybe, just maybe, he's realizing that he's not the guy the fans want making the movies... and is having somebody else make the sequel trilogy, and he will have executive producer credits and little else with no real power or creative input. Crosses fingers
As anyone who's read the Star Wars storyline as it continues past the 4/5/6, if Lucas uses these as a baseline for more movies, rejoice your ass off.
The stories (for the most part) have great depth, a wealth of plot scenarios to choose from (which might be the biggest stumble to what to make for sequels), and continue the stories of the principals through the next 30 years (kids, getting old, death, etc.). It actually makes the characters a helluva lot more believable.
Hats off to the editors who have made EVERY story that followed the movies tie into one another -- their consistency checks have got to be brain numbing, they're so thorough. That alone has made the stories a lot of fun to read.
And the authors include some well-known names in modern sci-fi, including James Luceno, Michael P. Kube-McDowell, and Michael Stackpole.
So, go read some dead tree, and see what kind of potential there is for three (or more!) sequels from Lucas. Let's just hope he uses some of the material available to him, instead of striking off on his own.
What does it mean to wake out of a dream
and be wearing someone else's shorts?
BNL, Born on a Pirate Ship (1998)
And if it somehow ends up being good, I will then go see it in the theatre.
This is how I use piracy to get rid of that silly geek factor that allowed Episodes 1 and 2 to make 400 million+. I will not support a movie by paying for it if it's not any good.
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is if he created movies for the new jedi order series, the books are killer, and while ep 7 8 and 9 books are great, the story for the new ones are better, but so many books would take what, 15 movies? and luke leia and han are about the right age to do them. i cant see 7 8 9 w/out the original people but the last trillogy is only 5 years after ROTJ.
We have seen that living things are too improbable and too beautifully "designed" to have come into existence by chance.
MAKE EPISODE 3 NOT SUCK HOWTO
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For the impatient:
1. Keep George Lucas away from the set.
Possible Alternatives:
1. Remove George Lucas as the Director
2. Take him to Mordor
"I'm sorry but I'm just sick of George Lucas raping my fond childhood memories of the first 3 Star Wars movies, and my wallet. Isn't it enough that he's created 2 incredibly bad movies in a row?"
#1 we all knew they wouldnt be AS good, its more informational than action. Leading up to the original tillogy.
#2 Anakin cant act. thats a lucas tradition that the leading actor cant act (in the star wars series)
#3 Yes, the movies were not as good as people wanted, but i read the book for EP2, and i think you should too, it was fantastic, and filled in all the gaps the movie left out.
the problem with the movie for EP2 for example is, they left out things from the book they shouldnt have, and put things in that could have been left out to make room for the good stuff.
We have seen that living things are too improbable and too beautifully "designed" to have come into existence by chance.
Unless you mean the prequels made you realize how lame the series already was by episode 6. How hokey episode 4 was, and how the pinnacle of the series was directed and largely rewritten by people other than Lucas. That could understandably rob you of fond memories. Of course, just watching them again older and wiser would probably have done that.
I hate to tell you this but I *have* watched the original trilogy since I was a kid. In fact, I probably watch the original trilogy about 3 times every year. I still enjoy them. You may argue that my positive feelings about those films are because I'm remembering my childhood or something. But I think they were substancially different than the new stuff.
Why? The characters. The original trilogy had likeable characters who were really giving it their all to take back the galaxy. Solo was a great guy. You could feel for what Luke was going through. Leia was clearly struggling with how to give all the parts of herself equal time. The rebellion doesn't have much but, boy, do they have heart! The Jedi, on the other hand, strike me as really a bunch or arrogant elite who seem to not be doing a very good job of anything. Anakin is just a spoiled brat. Obi Wan seems to have some ability but he never gets awfully worked up about anything. Yoda and Mace just sit around looking pensive and occasionally whip out their lightsabres. I wouldn't want to sit down and have a beer with any of those guys. They're just do damn boring.
Now let's look at the villans. Sure, in the original series the stormtroopers could never shoot straight but you knew that Vader was running the show most of the times and so it seemed like the Empire had a real chance of crushing the freedom fighters. In Ep 6 we see that Vader is starting to weaken a bit but then we're introduced to the Emperor who is even more powerful than Vader. *This* guy really knows his shit and he seems to delight in tormenting Luke. To put it simply, the bad guys were fearsome and competant. Now look at the bad guys from Ep 1 and 2. Darth Maul was cool but never really given a chance to say much. The Viceroy and the other Trade Federation weenies seem utterly incompetant. And Palpatine and Dooku have yet to do anything really horribly dispicable. It's hard to get worked up about these bad guys.
So there you have my theory. Characters are what makes the difference between the old and the new trilogy. Basically the old one had characters you could love and hate. The new one just has a bunch of guys dancing around in a CGI videogame.
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Actually, JA might make a better TV series than movies. How about some shorts, divided into episodes? Think something like Star-trek (before it sucked too badly)
I've heard that Jar Jar will not be in episode IV.
I can see from your phrasing that you would prefer to see Ewoks CG'ed out and replaced with Motie Watchmakers.
I thought I was only the third person to ever use that expression.
I'd like to see some "Jedi Academy" movies.
Man, if they cast some hot mama to play a tough lady Jedi who likes to kick some ass ala Sgt. Callahan from Police Academy I'd sure pay money to see that! Hubba hubba!
Just get somebody to maybe, I don't know, SKIm the damn script before they start shooting? Terrible dialogue is one thing, but if I have to hear another stupidly-named character or poorly-obfuscated english word I will drive to Lucas's house and scream random words from the OED until my vocal chords melt.
Seriously, does George ask his pre-pubescent kid to come up with the names of characters? Dooku? Greedo? And don't get me started on Jar-Jar.
this is very very old news. episodes 7,8,9 were rumored over a decade ago
By the time Lucas gets around to making sequels, he won't need any actors. He can just license the rights to the appearances of Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford, and Mark Hamill, and have ILM just do the whole damned movie with CG, eliminating all of those costly bluescreen shots. No more paying union wages for gaffers, lighting techs, etc.. Just a bunch of nerds with a rendering farm and voice-synthesizers.
Motie warriors, actually. I can beleive that they could take out the storm troopers with nothing more than rocks and logs. Hell, they could whipe the stormtroopers out with no weapons and their extra claw tied behind their backs.
Damn, but I'd like to see a "Mote in God's Eye" movie.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
The additional "episodes" in the contract are probably just legal ass-covering, on a just-in-case basis, so as to avoid the actors holding them for ransom. Any "postsequels" have to star Chewie, so it makes sense to preemptive-negotiate with his actor, before the viewing figures come in.
Hey...as long as more of them DIE, I'll be extremely happy. The only good Ewok is a DEAD Ewok!
Why are they doing Episode III, they should go back and fix the debacle we all know as Episode I.
Everytime I watch 4, 5, or 6 (and very rarely, 1 and 2) I see something new that: doesn't follow continuity; doesn't make sense; is just plain stupid/annoying/plottish/etc., etc. Little by little, though, I'm coming to terms with the fact that Star Wars is dead as far as our generation(s) is/are concerned.
It was definitely our big "cinema experience". Just like you could say the baby boomers' "media experience" was JFK's assassination, or the landing of the Eagle on the moon. Every iteration of the genepool has its own big deal, something that 99% of people can point at and say nifty things like "ayuh, I remember where I was when... blah blah blah" and have someone their age nod and go "yep". The original three SW films were definitely our own. We were first to see anything like that, the first to go nuts about the toys, the comics, the this and that.
If you're a kid of the 80s, you were also the first to play with Go-Bots, Transformers, Speak n Spell, Atari 2600/5200/etc., and so on; ever taken a stroll around a toy store lately? The same toys are still around, only now they're updated, revamped, retooled for the next slew of kids who will play with them, love them and stash them in boxes when they grow out of them.
Movie franchises (and I mean the "summer blockbuster" types) cater towards kids. I would be very surprised if a huge % of the ticket profits from Episodes I & II wasn't from parents' wallets.
Another thought is that the original three episodes were so much better because they were the beginning of the George Lucas Empire. They weren't a phenomenon or a franchise yet; they were a pricey, labor-of-love gamble on Lucas' part. He had to make movies that would be appealing to the whole gamut, and for the most part, he did, obviously.
So if he goes and makes another three... well, they'll be geared towards a whole new generation of kids to whom the original trilogy would seem like someone blubbering to us about the "good old days" when movies were silent, none of that "talky" shit. Maybe that's an exaggeration, but it's close enough.
I think the only thing I still begrudge Lucas for is him telling Leonard Maltin in the 3-part interview included with the pre-Special (Olympic) Edition three-pack VHS of Episodes 4, 5, and 6: "I'd like to direct again, sure. But I'll probably only direct Episode I, blah blah blah Jar-Jar ha ha you stupid bastards."
Oh, that's paraphrased, of course. Yeah.
When Lucas agreed to Mayhew's contract, he probably knew that 7, 8, & 9 would never be made. The contract won't be broken until the sequels are made without Mayhew -- if they are never made, the contract is never broken.
... "Plans 7, 8 & 9 From Outer Space," respectively.
...that I read in '97 or '98 that Lucas sold the rights to make the "post-quel" movies...
We're all still extremely proud of the magazine itself, though. If every /. reader went out and bought a copy, maybe we'd be able to do something about the website. (Hell, maybe the site being slashdotted might shake some cash loose!) I'm just sayin', is all...
You must think in Russian.
When Ep. 4 was released WAY back in, oh, 1977, was it?, it was reported that Lucas had planned a series of 9 movies, a trilogy of trilogies. "A New Hope" was known at that time to be the fourth movie; i.e., the first of the central trilogy.
So the existence of plans for 7, 8, and 9 have been known for a LONG time. The actuality of those plans (i.e., will the movies ever get made) has from time to time been in doubt. 15 years ago it seemed unlikely that Eps. 1-3 would ever get made.
You know it had to be said....
I'm not sure how many times George can pull of movies like this classic
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Use your influence and $$$ to get us completely digital theaters. We all want to see the new movies on a crystal clear screen that isn't going to be completely degraded the 3rd and 4th time we go to see it.
Having seen both of Lucas's digital ST movies on the big screen, I have to say the quality sucks compared with 35mm, and definitely compared with 70mm. The resolution is crappy, the colours are washed out. It's like looking at a screen saver blown up. You can see staircasing on thin diagonal details, for God's sake.
Maybe the resolution of digital will improve inthe future, but for now the hype seems to me to be mainly one of reducing the front-end costs for distributors by lowering media reproduction costs.
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...i recall that Lukas had sketched out 12 movies in four trilogies. But then there are far more novels than that now.
I suspect that after the first movie fails to make a profit, we will see a Star Wars TV series.
lucas said in the 70s/80s that he wanted to make something without so much exposition, just show things happening.
then in ROTJ he messes things around. leia wasnt supposed to be lukes sister. but he decided to make it so and the first 'exposition' extended scene is on endor, its boring too.
then in 1 he has mitdichlorians,
2 he has endless discussions about love and
duty.
The rumor mill indicates that Vader will be tossed in a lava flow, just as you suspect. Some bits and pieces about puppet/makeup tests (i.e. mock-ups for Lucas to pick from) of crispy Anakin have made their way through the grapevine.
Further rumor has it that James Earl Jones will be doing the Vader voice again, will have about 5 minutes of Vader dialog, and that this will be a fully masked Vader exactly as we see him 16-20 years (whatever the Ep3 to Ep4 gap is supposed to be) later (or earlier if you are counting real world years and not years on a movie timeline). I hear there will be a buttload of Force-Choke going on, too, like everyone nearby when Vader is "born" is toast.
listen to his lines. if someone talked like that in real life . . . .
Obviously you haven't read NJO, if you're talking about Chewbacca appearing in something post-NJO.
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Really, if you read the novelizations of Episodes I and II, they are extremely well done. Much better than the movies, in my opinion. You can imagine the story being played out in your head, perfectly acted. I'll read the novelization of Episode III as per the tradition, but I might not see the movie for a while... When I read Terry Brooks' adaptation of Epsiode II, I was floored. It was a really good book, but I was afraid it would ruin the movie. Turns out, it was the other way around...
Will fill in if the contract fails...
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The Endorian Holocaust is the devastation of the destruction of the second Death Star. At the end of Star Wars: Episode VI Return of the Jedi, the rebels destroyed the second Death Star in orbit around the Forest-Moon of Endor. The Endorian Holocaust may have lead to the extinction of Ewoks on the Forest-Moon of Endor.
The Endorian Holocaust
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When I was a kid I had this activity book that my parents go me. I don't remember if it was all science-fiction or all star wars, but they had a star wars crossword. One of the clues was "total number of movies to be made" and the answer was twelve.
Seem to remember hearing that somewhere else back then too.
I'm not going to bother with any more Star Warts unless Tarantino directs them.
Me too, strange that.
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Actually, this way, Ep III might actually exceed your expectations and be considered a return to form. The story material is way better than Eps 1 & 2. There's gotta be a sex scene too...
Come on, you should be immune to disappointment by now
Please, you're raping my childhood.
Unless Peter Jackson directs all three, I'd rather have my eyes bored out by cockroaches. Wonder who Lucas has in mind to play the pathetic, sulky teen who grows up to be the next scourge of the universe.
"Oh, well I'm sorry if you don't appreciate my random murders!" - Crow T. Robot,
If I had points.. they would all belong on to your post.
I remember when I was a kid. The NY Times sometime after the original release of Episode IV as "Star Wars" printed in the Sunday Arts and Leisure section a summary of all nine episodes. I have never been able to find it since. Does anyone else remember this or have a copy?
...if you're sick of watching George Lucas' bad movies that are just trying to make money off of the original trilogy's success, you may instead want to watch....: "In 1979, an Italian film company tried to capitalize off of the success of Star Wars, using David Hasslehoff. The movie was filmed in English, dubbed into Italian, and then dubbed over again into English, then released. This is that movie. Star Crash." Star Crash is so blatantly a ripoff and also so blatantly bad that, well ... it's hilarious.
Also, there's a ~eight minute short clip entitled 'George Lucas in Love' which is amusing and worth the download time - check your favorite fileshare.
"Imperial Battleship! Halt the flow of time!" --The Emperor of the Galaxy (Christopher Plummer)
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Trivia: He also did the voice for Muska in the Dinsey dub of Castle in the Sky (an anime movie).
"To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit." -Stephen Hawking
We could end the film where somebody - get this - in a small spaceship flies up to the big enemy ship and - this idea is so good - blows it up from the inside using minimal fire power. Oh wait, we already did that three fucking times!
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You obviously didn't read the caveat
No. Just...no.
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So what?
But I've been round Boba Fett's house (which is in Tooting Bec - London ) and he's a nice chap. I went to uni with his son and never once did he try to throw me down that pit of zarlack of whatever its called. In fact, did you know that Boba Fett is actually Cliff Richard's ginger mate in Summer Holiday ? Well check it out in imdb if you didnt.
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