all of the info in those man pages ARE relavent. They are hard as hell to understand, they probably dont give examples, and not very intuitive to newbies. But that has nothing to do with relavence.
neither which I consider good quality material to watch for several hours a day. How much of that violence portion of tv do you think comes from the history channel?
Also the point is 10 mineuts a day of actual informative television? Thats pretty slim. The amound of crap on tv FAR outweighs the good.
Sure people have a free will. So did the japaneese suicide pilots, and so do suicide bombers. Everyone has free will.. not very many people have a gun to their head all of the time. But that doesn't mean that television isn't brainwashing the american public. Take for example eating disorders, or school shooting in elementry schools, or morbidly obiese people. I think that television contributes to all of these.
I hate tv(dont play games either but thats a different story)
Here is a clip from an essay I am working on.
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The average American watches about four hours of television a day. Annually Americans spend two hundred and fifty billion hours in front of the tube. Some people might argue that there is good quality content available to watch. Over 80 percent of television is devoted to commercials and stories about violence and war. Content that contains public service announcements only consists of.7 percent of the total (A.C Nielsen Co). Television has a massive affect on our society. These affects include behavior due to prolonged exposure to violence, materialism due to the ridiculous number of commercials, and health problems due to the sedentary nature of watching television.
you cant just throw someone in a class and have them magically change. Instead of straight up acting, have him join stage crew. That way he can be around social people, be required to interact with social people, and still be able to do what he enjoys(sound, lighting, editing, whatever).
"It is storage, storage and more storage," said Ms Christiansen
umm if it was relly designed for women it would have no storage...that way there is no place to put stuff and less room for junk to collect, same thing applies to purses and houses.
yeah I was going to say... endian ordering has to deal with how bytes(not bits) are ordered in memory. This is more apparent when you try and code some 2d arrays in assembly.
I for one couldn't give a crap about the license, I just want a gui that works nice. What features are in the new X? The site isn't responding to me, otherwise id look myself.
Do you really need a class to provide examples in man pages, or explain what all of the cryptic terms mean? Maybe this is obvious to me becuase I spent several years teaching sailing to kids, reffing youth soccer games, and explain to grandma how things work.
The bottom line is that people need to write man pages like a tutorial, becuase if your reading a man page thats really what you want(ok so include a summary for those people who just need a refresher).
Try having your grandma setting up a printer with gnome or kde. Better yet try a usb printer.
Send grandma a small video and watch her try and figure out how to play it on linux.
Or best yet watch grandma try and use xcdroast.
Try reading through man pages for stuff like ssh keygen, or X, or any other sort of technical software. Is it really that hard to give human readable description of how to use the shit?
this is what will do, here is an example, here is another example, dont try and use it to do instead should be used.
instead of stuff like this
-e Convert OpenSSH to IETF SECSH key file
?????
seriously documentation is so damn important, and so easy to make. If you write some software, you know what you wrote, so just write a paragraph for each feature, it only takes like 5 minuets and then your software might acually get used.
The same principals go for graphical interface as well as command line interface. Think of a gui as just a extention of cli. This doesn't apply for all software, obviously things like openoffice dont have a cli. But these apps are pretty rare, and the few that exist work pretty good, browsers and office and stuff.
Bottom line, this guy is right. We need better quality apps and configuration utilities for linux.
Adam
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If you wanna spend a couple of bucks, try cpanel. Its webmin on steriods.
Its called community. The more people who use and rely on open source software, the bigger the community gets. You dont have to be a developer to contribute.
Ok first thing, do you really want a quarter of your screen wasted for a pager??
Second things pager in enlightenment is scalable up to 1/8 the screen with a standard install. Im sure with some tweaking you could make it full screen if you really wanted to.
As far as the other reply in this thread... its pretty easy to turn pagers on/off, there is nothing new about that
I think that you have to understand some of the results of the appolo program. Dont think of it as mearly a program to hurl stuff in the sky. The computer your sitting infront of, say thank you to the appolo program. nasa has created a boatload of technology along with space exploration. If we spend another 25billion dollars or even a trillion dollars, every penny of it will be worth it becuase of all the side acomplishments and the benifit to humanity.
sure its not like were dropping food on people, but there will still be benifits along the way.
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right I agree.. tv is not the cuase of all problems, but it sure contributes(see previous post) to alot of them
no im sorry but thats not right
all of the info in those man pages ARE relavent. They are hard as hell to understand, they probably dont give examples, and not very intuitive to newbies. But that has nothing to do with relavence.
The point is tv mainly consists of two things
-violence
-ads
neither which I consider good quality material to watch for several hours a day. How much of that violence portion of tv do you think comes from the history channel?
Also the point is 10 mineuts a day of actual informative television? Thats pretty slim. The amound of crap on tv FAR outweighs the good.
Sure people have a free will. So did the japaneese suicide pilots, and so do suicide bombers. Everyone has free will.. not very many people have a gun to their head all of the time. But that doesn't mean that television isn't brainwashing the american public. Take for example eating disorders, or school shooting in elementry schools, or morbidly obiese people. I think that television contributes to all of these.
I dont think weather warnings and local breaking news really push agendas
right on
.7 percent of the total (A.C Nielsen Co). Television has a massive affect on our society. These affects include behavior due to prolonged exposure to violence, materialism due to the ridiculous number of commercials, and health problems due to the sedentary nature of watching television.
I hate tv(dont play games either but thats a different story)
Here is a clip from an essay I am working on.
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The average American watches about four hours of television a day. Annually Americans spend two hundred and fifty billion hours in front of the tube. Some people might argue that there is good quality content available to watch. Over 80 percent of television is devoted to commercials and stories about violence and war. Content that contains public service announcements only consists of
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television is shit
wow did you just say info interface is easy? That explains the emacs usage. Also I happen to like man.
one single page shows up, gives all relavent info, up and down arrows for scrolling, q to quit.
Now wether people write good content for man pages is another story.
yeah you have a point
you cant just throw someone in a class and have them magically change. Instead of straight up acting, have him join stage crew. That way he can be around social people, be required to interact with social people, and still be able to do what he enjoys(sound, lighting, editing, whatever).
"It is storage, storage and more storage," said Ms Christiansen
umm if it was relly designed for women it would have no storage...that way there is no place to put stuff and less room for junk to collect, same thing applies to purses and houses.
So I looked at your website. Its pretty cool stuff. How much does one of these nodes sell for? I wasn't able to find a price.
And what about the middle finger? Is that restart or something? Perhaps it would be like kill -9.
yeah I was going to say... endian ordering has to deal with how bytes(not bits) are ordered in memory. This is more apparent when you try and code some 2d arrays in assembly.
I for one couldn't give a crap about the license, I just want a gui that works nice. What features are in the new X? The site isn't responding to me, otherwise id look myself.
Or at least make the cut-scenes skippable, for christ's sake
DING DING DING WINNER
I hate games that dont let you skip cut scenes. Even worse if you playing a game that you die alot in.. and have to watch the cut scene EVERY TIME
I dont care how good the story is... nobody wants to hear it 5 or 10 times in a row
Do you really need a class to provide examples in man pages, or explain what all of the cryptic terms mean? Maybe this is obvious to me becuase I spent several years teaching sailing to kids, reffing youth soccer games, and explain to grandma how things work.
The bottom line is that people need to write man pages like a tutorial, becuase if your reading a man page thats really what you want(ok so include a summary for those people who just need a refresher).
mmm ramen
here is a tip though, take a bus or get a bike
Seriously.
Try having your grandma setting up a printer with gnome or kde. Better yet try a usb printer.
Send grandma a small video and watch her try and figure out how to play it on linux.
Or best yet watch grandma try and use xcdroast.
Try reading through man pages for stuff like ssh keygen, or X, or any other sort of technical software. Is it really that hard to give human readable description of how to use the shit?
this is what will do, here is an example, here is another example, dont try and use it to do instead should be used.
instead of stuff like this
-e Convert OpenSSH to IETF SECSH key file
?????
seriously documentation is so damn important, and so easy to make. If you write some software, you know what you wrote, so just write a paragraph for each feature, it only takes like 5 minuets and then your software might acually get used.
The same principals go for graphical interface as well as command line interface. Think of a gui as just a extention of cli. This doesn't apply for all software, obviously things like openoffice dont have a cli. But these apps are pretty rare, and the few that exist work pretty good, browsers and office and stuff.
Bottom line, this guy is right. We need better quality apps and configuration utilities for linux.
Adam
If you wanna spend a couple of bucks, try cpanel. Its webmin on steriods.
your assuming that harry potter books are advanced enough to use symbolism
Its called community. The more people who use and rely on open source software, the bigger the community gets. You dont have to be a developer to contribute.
sure but I dont think they had in mind "a dummies guide to hacking"
If you dont have enough intellect to figure out how to solder, hammer, research ON YOUR OWN, your just not a hacker. Period.
Hackers have natural intellect and creativity. That is the difference between a hacker and a handyman.
Ok first thing, do you really want a quarter of your screen wasted for a pager??
Second things pager in enlightenment is scalable up to 1/8 the screen with a standard install. Im sure with some tweaking you could make it full screen if you really wanted to.
As far as the other reply in this thread... its pretty easy to turn pagers on/off, there is nothing new about that
really its all been done before
right but this isn't about virtual desktops, its about desktop pagers
no way... I would say sco is doing great for having no customers
now if this was the list of the most unethical companies...... ding ding ding we have a winner
I think that you have to understand some of the results of the appolo program. Dont think of it as mearly a program to hurl stuff in the sky. The computer your sitting infront of, say thank you to the appolo program. nasa has created a boatload of technology along with space exploration. If we spend another 25billion dollars or even a trillion dollars, every penny of it will be worth it becuase of all the side acomplishments and the benifit to humanity.
sure its not like were dropping food on people, but there will still be benifits along the way.