They really don't have a good solid foundation in math, logic, and science to make really good software.
Which is balanced out by the fact that many programmers can't write good software because they are too focused on math, logic and science and can't relate to their target user.
Of course, there are some that fail at both. They are the ones that I'm always cleaning up after.
But that still leaves an unexplained death. When a married person dies, the spouse is an automatic suspect worthy of at least some investigation since they have the most to possibly gain by the death.
Umm, no. An "apparent heart attack" is an explanation.
FYI: Just because someone dies doesn't mean there's a suspect. In fact, a vast majority of the time that is what happens. No suspect. It's pretty sad that I had to point this out.
My take, after having actually read Mr. Brown's reply is that he is clearly out to prove that Linux was built on code that was copywritten.
OK, enough stating the obvious. Onto some thoughts.
Did Linus use/duplicate some code from Minix or Unix source? I think that's obvious. And really, although I doubt a court would buy it, I think his claim that Linus probably did have Unix source has some merit. Though that's just me guessing.
The question I have then is.
If it could be proven, does it create a really big problem for Linux?
If it is a problem, then what? Linux isn't Atari. It can't pay someone off with a huge sum of money.
I'm not worried about it much, but the picture he painted in the article does give me more concern then SCO ever did to be honest.
I'm glad you mentioned the controller.
I'm 29. I hadn't thrown a controller since Alex Kidd in Miracle World back in the Sega Master System days.
Yet, I threw it once playing Ninja Gaiden on the X-Box.
I'm OK with them not having the option to make it easier though. It was a throw back game (pun is optional). It force me to get good at the game. If you've made it through most of the game, go back and start over and it's actually not that hard. It's just instead of bring a modern "just play through, little skill required" like most games, it makes you get good. And I respect that.
It alternates between telling me I'm most alert at either 4:04 or 5:00 exactly. Not even sure if they are talking about AM or PM.
And what's really odd is it's not even asking me any questions before giving me my results.
I guess they figured out a way to determine when you are most alert based on your IP or something.
You know, the list of single items that is what is needed to get Linux to JoeUser's desktop? I'm sure the concept was there already is not the exact tools to do it with.
My list contains 1 item. One word actually. Unification
The average computer user is not an IT person. They have problems when you upgrade their machine from 2000 to XP. Even if you give them XP with the old GUI.
They would not be OK having to know 3 or 4 different desktops just to stay marketable.
Likewise, 3 or 4 mail clients, 3 or 4 office suites, this is bad for them.
This might change in 10 or 15 years when the business world is dominated by people that grew up using personal computers. But right now that isn't the case.
And I fully realize my list is mine and yours may differ. But isn't that the problem?
The whole point is that trying to make people live in the SW Universe without letting them be Jedi's is assinine. There's no point to it. The sole interesting aspect of that universe is the *force*.
There are no wizards, no shamans, no palidans, no deathknights. Just mundane classes and then the *Jedi*.
Furthermore, you've made another assumption.
There is no reason to believe that all Jedi's are just all the same. And we never discussed the jedi in depth, so where you get off calling a simple "good" and "bad" breakdown of Jedi's *mine* I again have no idea.
And even if currently there are only a few different paths that let a jedi be different from his peers, there is no reason more can't be added. They've already done this with other classes, and can easily do it for jedi. And in fact this is what they need to do and I'm sure will do.
Picture a game where everyone is a jedi (save maybe for some bounty hunters). Picture unique distinct classes within the Jedi ranks (KotOR did this rather simply actually). Some Jedi's are better with the saber. Some use the force more. Some focus on damage. Some focus on healing. Some focus on a bit of the force and a bit of the saber.
It's very easy to breakdown the Jedi ranks into classes. SWG already has this ability, and there's every reason to believe the skill trees will just grow as more and more people play jedi.
And my world, with lots of jedi's, is a hell of a lot more interesting then your world with few jedi's and lot of real life people playing mundane real-world professions. In fact we already know your world leads to people canceling their accounts in droves.
Huh? How you got a mod point is beyond me. Regardless
First, you have no idea how hard "maxing out other skills" is for a Jedi.
Since they are a fully fledged class, it would be safer for you to assume they they are just as hard to max out as any other class. Currently they are much harder since they suffer from permadeath.
Think of how your questions sounds if you replace Jedi with wizard?
If becoming a wizard was easy to obtain, say 1 month work for a non-hardcore gamer, then why the hell would you play a game where you're already the number one force (no pun intended) in the game?
Your whole point revolves around the illconcieved idea that maxing a jedi is easy and that the fun of the jedi is in just opening up the slot. Newsflash. It isn't. And in generaly people hate opening up the slot. People don't jsut want to get to be a jedi. They WANT to PLAY a JEDI.
The real obvious answer as to why the develoeprs are making these charges is because the developers, in a attempt to keep the player base, is attempting to move more of the focus of the game towards the jedi. Why this is so should be obvious but I already explained it in my last post.
This isn't a case of developers making everyone "Level 50" just to hand it to people as you claimed.
This is a case of developers making a big change in their "vision".
It should have always been that way. Think of how absurd their original design was. The one class that is even remotely special, the one class every wants to play, is an accomplishment in itself just if you can actually even try to play that class.
Woah! Back up son.
Have you seen the game they created? What other reasons to play THAT game exist?
Furthermore, complaining that people play games to be bad-asses, is, for lack of a better word, stupid. They're games. It's OK to want your character to be a bad ass. The problem is in that game, that unless you're a Jedi you really don't feel like a bad ass. In other games, even though there's 1000's of other people just like you, you can feel like a bad ass.
Of course people want to be Jedi's. In the SW Universe, it's basically the only thing *cool*.
In other games, like say EQ, you can be a wizard casting magic spells, or a mage summoning elementals to do your bidding.
In SWG all the non-Jedi professions are very mundane.
Why there's anyone left playing that game I can only guess. It was THAT bad.
They should have picked a different time and setting for the game so everyone could have been Jedi's.
Say it with me.
The Star Wars Universe without Jedi's is boring.
Your post strikes me as very off base.
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He needs to slap a big Type-R sticker on it. Then it would really be a chick magnet.
DAoC is RvR which is actually pretty much what WoW is doing.
As I mentioned, virtually no one wants full-time PvP.
My problem with DAoC is they went too far, making to much of the end game meant to revolve around the RvR conflicts as opposed to better PvM end game content.
My hope for WoW is that the end game still revolves around PvM, but the RvR gameplay is there as a mid/end-game option for when you want a change of pace.
convoluted classes unable to compare to the uber classes
This is not true. Blizzard has put in a small number of classes compared to most similar games. There are no true hybrids that will always fall short of a warriors tanking for example. Instead, their Paladin, while having some ability to tank, is like a Diablo II palidan. They have auras. So in large group environments, the pali isn't some half assed tank that can't get an invite, it's an aura machine that chips in some melee damage.
There's no monk or compete with the rogue for less tanking + better meele damage king. Instead, there's just the rogue.
Casting classes are similar.
It's a great move by Blizzard because it solves the problem you mention where a subset of classes are better then the rest at the endgame situation.
poor to no PvP
This is not a problem unless you want PvP. It might not suit your tastes, but it seems that based upon past games, most people want nothing to do with full-time PvP. Sure, you can say "well just no games done PvP right". But I'm sick of hearing that. Just admit, no game will ever get it right. It just isn't natural in a MMORPG. How many times did Frodo die in the trilogy? Thats right, none. In PvP player death rates are always 50%, where as in PvM, they more fit the genre since the player dies probably on average less then 95% of the times.
Also just isn't a twitch game, so PvP outcomes are based on luck and pre-determined characteristics (level, items, class, etc) instead of skill.
You're more then entitles to want PvP of course, but I don't see their version of PvP as a problem, infact I see their system as a strength. I'd hate it to be another game that tried to shove the concept of PvP down our throats. PvM, thats where the the focus is and should be.
EQ was like this as well early on. You got the ability to "stand out" and look different by earning it. You got different weapons, different armor. Standing out was an accomplishment in itself.
There is nothing wrong with this approach, and I hope they don't submit to the "we want everything handed to us" crowd.
Too many games of late hand you this early on. Easily dyed armor, zillions of look combinations (that get covered up by armors anyways).
I remember in EQ beta seeing the people from earlier beta's and they stood out. They had chain or plate armor. They had robes who's origins I could only guess at. Weapons I dreamed about. It made me want to level, to go to new areas, so I could look "cool" too.
I'm not some mad powerleveler or Ebay-er of items. But I am a big item-collector. It's a huge part of the game for me. And when games minimalize an items ability to make you stand out, they are taking away a large part of the fun for me.
Months from now, when a vast array of items flood the world, they can add more customization options. But from the get go, let us have the fun of exploring a new world and let us have the fun of earning our place in that world.
The student is right to refuse, as he gets no compensation from the service for making money off his original work (assuming it was original!!).
I feel the same way everytime I'm forced to reply to an email at work. Why should Mircosoft make money off my original work? Why can't I just enscribe my message onto clay tablets I make myself.
Everyone seems to think they have some right to profit these days. The nerve.
The point isn't to have *this* much processing power in a home computer.
It's more like climbing a mountain. You do it because you can and you enjoy doing it.
You post wasn't true. It was a stereotyping rant.
You didn't post evidence. You posted your opinion. And it was an opinion I would call ignorant at best.
Where I work there are no wrappers all over the ground. There are no cigarette butts all over the smoking area. And the smoking area is far away from the building so as to not disturn non-smokers.
And I quit sometime ago so I don't think I qualify for militant smoker (not that I modded you down though I would have had I had any mod points today).
Thats still a complete system. Not a "buy this CPU, match it to a MOBO you brought from a large selection...."
You need a very large hammer to force the PPC 970 into this review. Naturally, it just doesn't fit.
Instead of upgrading it to a more complex system, why not just put that money into the efforts to build a better shuttle replacement that is fundamentally superior?
Why would they put G5/PPC970 in there?
I can go buy the CPU's they reviewed, put them in a compatible MOBO of my choosing from many different 3rd party vendors. I can't do that with the G5.
The G5 would fit in an Alienware vs Dell vs eMachine type of comparision. But not in the one featured here.
In the several years employeed at the same place I've never had an email virus at my company's headquaters nor where I'm contracted too. Nor have I heard of anyone there getting one. Both places use exchange are NT domains, everyone uses Outlook, etc. Both places have admins that know what the hell they are doing.
I have seen one spread like wild fire at another place I do a few hours of work for here and there. And that place has $8 an hour admins that have no clue what they're doing and aren't qualified to work the help desk.
Generally, it seems Linux is a more locked down OS and therefore more secure. But to me what makes the biggest difference is to be a *nix admin you have to have a freaking clue. To be an windows admin you don't and it often shows.
Uh, what the fuck are you talking about?
You're comparing a car to a battery?
A car has a battery and 1000's of other parts.
My computer has a battery and lots of other parts. And we put our shoes through a hell of a lot of different stresses. Crappy comparisions your whole lot.
They had a battery problem. Someone messed up. Get over it already.
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That's actually rather interesting. Thanks for point that out.
128K, maybe. There's no way an Odyssey had 128 megs, is there? No. It had 128 bytes of memory. 128K was a waaaaaaays off still for the home market.
They really don't have a good solid foundation in math, logic, and science to make really good software.
Which is balanced out by the fact that many programmers can't write good software because they are too focused on math, logic and science and can't relate to their target user.
Of course, there are some that fail at both. They are the ones that I'm always cleaning up after.
But that still leaves an unexplained death. When a married person dies, the spouse is an automatic suspect worthy of at least some investigation since they have the most to possibly gain by the death.
Umm, no. An "apparent heart attack" is an explanation.
FYI: Just because someone dies doesn't mean there's a suspect. In fact, a vast majority of the time that is what happens. No suspect. It's pretty sad that I had to point this out.
My take, after having actually read Mr. Brown's reply is that he is clearly out to prove that Linux was built on code that was copywritten.
OK, enough stating the obvious. Onto some thoughts.
Did Linus use/duplicate some code from Minix or Unix source? I think that's obvious. And really, although I doubt a court would buy it, I think his claim that Linus probably did have Unix source has some merit. Though that's just me guessing.
The question I have then is.
If it could be proven, does it create a really big problem for Linux?
If it is a problem, then what? Linux isn't Atari. It can't pay someone off with a huge sum of money.
I'm not worried about it much, but the picture he painted in the article does give me more concern then SCO ever did to be honest.
I'm glad you mentioned the controller.
I'm 29. I hadn't thrown a controller since Alex Kidd in Miracle World back in the Sega Master System days.
Yet, I threw it once playing Ninja Gaiden on the X-Box.
I'm OK with them not having the option to make it easier though. It was a throw back game (pun is optional). It force me to get good at the game. If you've made it through most of the game, go back and start over and it's actually not that hard. It's just instead of bring a modern "just play through, little skill required" like most games, it makes you get good. And I respect that.
It alternates between telling me I'm most alert at either 4:04 or 5:00 exactly. Not even sure if they are talking about AM or PM.
And what's really odd is it's not even asking me any questions before giving me my results.
I guess they figured out a way to determine when you are most alert based on your IP or something.
You know, the list of single items that is what is needed to get Linux to JoeUser's desktop? I'm sure the concept was there already is not the exact tools to do it with.
My list contains 1 item. One word actually. Unification
The average computer user is not an IT person. They have problems when you upgrade their machine from 2000 to XP. Even if you give them XP with the old GUI.
They would not be OK having to know 3 or 4 different desktops just to stay marketable.
Likewise, 3 or 4 mail clients, 3 or 4 office suites, this is bad for them.
This might change in 10 or 15 years when the business world is dominated by people that grew up using personal computers. But right now that isn't the case.
And I fully realize my list is mine and yours may differ. But isn't that the problem?
No. That isn't the whole point.
The whole point is that trying to make people live in the SW Universe without letting them be Jedi's is assinine. There's no point to it. The sole interesting aspect of that universe is the *force*.
There are no wizards, no shamans, no palidans, no deathknights. Just mundane classes and then the *Jedi*.
Furthermore, you've made another assumption. There is no reason to believe that all Jedi's are just all the same. And we never discussed the jedi in depth, so where you get off calling a simple "good" and "bad" breakdown of Jedi's *mine* I again have no idea.
And even if currently there are only a few different paths that let a jedi be different from his peers, there is no reason more can't be added. They've already done this with other classes, and can easily do it for jedi. And in fact this is what they need to do and I'm sure will do.
Picture a game where everyone is a jedi (save maybe for some bounty hunters). Picture unique distinct classes within the Jedi ranks (KotOR did this rather simply actually). Some Jedi's are better with the saber. Some use the force more. Some focus on damage. Some focus on healing. Some focus on a bit of the force and a bit of the saber. It's very easy to breakdown the Jedi ranks into classes. SWG already has this ability, and there's every reason to believe the skill trees will just grow as more and more people play jedi.
And my world, with lots of jedi's, is a hell of a lot more interesting then your world with few jedi's and lot of real life people playing mundane real-world professions. In fact we already know your world leads to people canceling their accounts in droves.
Huh? How you got a mod point is beyond me. Regardless
First, you have no idea how hard "maxing out other skills" is for a Jedi.
Since they are a fully fledged class, it would be safer for you to assume they they are just as hard to max out as any other class. Currently they are much harder since they suffer from permadeath.
Think of how your questions sounds if you replace Jedi with wizard?
If becoming a wizard was easy to obtain, say 1 month work for a non-hardcore gamer, then why the hell would you play a game where you're already the number one force (no pun intended) in the game?
Your whole point revolves around the illconcieved idea that maxing a jedi is easy and that the fun of the jedi is in just opening up the slot. Newsflash. It isn't. And in generaly people hate opening up the slot. People don't jsut want to get to be a jedi. They WANT to PLAY a JEDI.
The real obvious answer as to why the develoeprs are making these charges is because the developers, in a attempt to keep the player base, is attempting to move more of the focus of the game towards the jedi. Why this is so should be obvious but I already explained it in my last post.
This isn't a case of developers making everyone "Level 50" just to hand it to people as you claimed. This is a case of developers making a big change in their "vision".
It should have always been that way. Think of how absurd their original design was. The one class that is even remotely special, the one class every wants to play, is an accomplishment in itself just if you can actually even try to play that class.
Woah! Back up son.
Have you seen the game they created? What other reasons to play THAT game exist?
Furthermore, complaining that people play games to be bad-asses, is, for lack of a better word, stupid. They're games. It's OK to want your character to be a bad ass. The problem is in that game, that unless you're a Jedi you really don't feel like a bad ass. In other games, even though there's 1000's of other people just like you, you can feel like a bad ass.
Of course people want to be Jedi's. In the SW Universe, it's basically the only thing *cool*. In other games, like say EQ, you can be a wizard casting magic spells, or a mage summoning elementals to do your bidding.
In SWG all the non-Jedi professions are very mundane.
Why there's anyone left playing that game I can only guess. It was THAT bad.
They should have picked a different time and setting for the game so everyone could have been Jedi's.
Say it with me. The Star Wars Universe without Jedi's is boring. Your post strikes me as very off base.
He needs to slap a big Type-R sticker on it. Then it would really be a chick magnet.
DAoC is RvR which is actually pretty much what WoW is doing.
As I mentioned, virtually no one wants full-time PvP.
My problem with DAoC is they went too far, making to much of the end game meant to revolve around the RvR conflicts as opposed to better PvM end game content.
My hope for WoW is that the end game still revolves around PvM, but the RvR gameplay is there as a mid/end-game option for when you want a change of pace.
convoluted classes unable to compare to the uber classes
This is not true. Blizzard has put in a small number of classes compared to most similar games. There are no true hybrids that will always fall short of a warriors tanking for example. Instead, their Paladin, while having some ability to tank, is like a Diablo II palidan. They have auras. So in large group environments, the pali isn't some half assed tank that can't get an invite, it's an aura machine that chips in some melee damage.
There's no monk or compete with the rogue for less tanking + better meele damage king. Instead, there's just the rogue.
Casting classes are similar.
It's a great move by Blizzard because it solves the problem you mention where a subset of classes are better then the rest at the endgame situation.
poor to no PvP
This is not a problem unless you want PvP. It might not suit your tastes, but it seems that based upon past games, most people want nothing to do with full-time PvP. Sure, you can say "well just no games done PvP right". But I'm sick of hearing that. Just admit, no game will ever get it right. It just isn't natural in a MMORPG. How many times did Frodo die in the trilogy? Thats right, none. In PvP player death rates are always 50%, where as in PvM, they more fit the genre since the player dies probably on average less then 95% of the times.
Also just isn't a twitch game, so PvP outcomes are based on luck and pre-determined characteristics (level, items, class, etc) instead of skill.
You're more then entitles to want PvP of course, but I don't see their version of PvP as a problem, infact I see their system as a strength. I'd hate it to be another game that tried to shove the concept of PvP down our throats. PvM, thats where the the focus is and should be.
EQ was like this as well early on. You got the ability to "stand out" and look different by earning it. You got different weapons, different armor. Standing out was an accomplishment in itself.
There is nothing wrong with this approach, and I hope they don't submit to the "we want everything handed to us" crowd.
Too many games of late hand you this early on. Easily dyed armor, zillions of look combinations (that get covered up by armors anyways).
I remember in EQ beta seeing the people from earlier beta's and they stood out. They had chain or plate armor. They had robes who's origins I could only guess at. Weapons I dreamed about. It made me want to level, to go to new areas, so I could look "cool" too.
I'm not some mad powerleveler or Ebay-er of items. But I am a big item-collector. It's a huge part of the game for me. And when games minimalize an items ability to make you stand out, they are taking away a large part of the fun for me.
Months from now, when a vast array of items flood the world, they can add more customization options. But from the get go, let us have the fun of exploring a new world and let us have the fun of earning our place in that world.
The student is right to refuse, as he gets no compensation from the service for making money off his original work (assuming it was original!!).
I feel the same way everytime I'm forced to reply to an email at work. Why should Mircosoft make money off my original work? Why can't I just enscribe my message onto clay tablets I make myself.
Everyone seems to think they have some right to profit these days. The nerve.
You're confusing "climbing a mountain" with "crossing the road" my friend.
The point isn't to have *this* much processing power in a home computer.
It's more like climbing a mountain. You do it because you can and you enjoy doing it.
You post wasn't true. It was a stereotyping rant. You didn't post evidence. You posted your opinion. And it was an opinion I would call ignorant at best.
Where I work there are no wrappers all over the ground. There are no cigarette butts all over the smoking area. And the smoking area is far away from the building so as to not disturn non-smokers.
And I quit sometime ago so I don't think I qualify for militant smoker (not that I modded you down though I would have had I had any mod points today).
Thats still a complete system. Not a "buy this CPU, match it to a MOBO you brought from a large selection...."
You need a very large hammer to force the PPC 970 into this review. Naturally, it just doesn't fit.
Instead of upgrading it to a more complex system, why not just put that money into the efforts to build a better shuttle replacement that is fundamentally superior?
Why would they put G5/PPC970 in there?
I can go buy the CPU's they reviewed, put them in a compatible MOBO of my choosing from many different 3rd party vendors. I can't do that with the G5.
The G5 would fit in an Alienware vs Dell vs eMachine type of comparision. But not in the one featured here.
What virus was it?
In the several years employeed at the same place I've never had an email virus at my company's headquaters nor where I'm contracted too. Nor have I heard of anyone there getting one. Both places use exchange are NT domains, everyone uses Outlook, etc.
Both places have admins that know what the hell they are doing.
I have seen one spread like wild fire at another place I do a few hours of work for here and there. And that place has $8 an hour admins that have no clue what they're doing and aren't qualified to work the help desk.
Generally, it seems Linux is a more locked down OS and therefore more secure. But to me what makes the biggest difference is to be a *nix admin you have to have a freaking clue. To be an windows admin you don't and it often shows.
That anyone still cares.
That game was downright horrid in so many ways. I'd rattle off why buts thats been done many times before.
Uh, what the fuck are you talking about?
You're comparing a car to a battery? A car has a battery and 1000's of other parts. My computer has a battery and lots of other parts. And we put our shoes through a hell of a lot of different stresses. Crappy comparisions your whole lot.
They had a battery problem. Someone messed up. Get over it already.