I installed Fink on my OS X box a couple of weeks ago. I've been using dselect to get software. You're saying that apt-"whatever" will be easier? I do know that dselect is a kluged up mess. What I would love is a native Mac OS X app to front end fink or apt-blah, or at least an XWindow app that will run on Darwin. Oh well, until I can write my own OS X apps, I'll learn the cli version of apt.
I have to assume you either fell through a synchrotron beam this morning or your coffee pot was too close to the uranium plasma frabulator. Foo help us if you're serious. Unless you really like to watch a windows box try to count past 4.
Anyway, I view these ad's as Microsoft caving. They obviously trying to break into the "big iron" market. To bad M$! Unix will be pretty much impossible to replace.
Well, Alan, as a new Mac user, I think OS X is the cat's ass and OS9 is a a jumbled, confusing, ugly piece of crap. I'm not saying that to flame you, that's just the way I feel about the two OS's. Coming from the x86 world is a HUGE adjustment compared to the difference between OS9 and OS X. I just try to take it into stride. I'm also a little confused here, how can OS X be so frustrating to you old timer Mac users? Are you really just afraid of change? I know there was a big flame war when the PPC came out and people needed to buy new software or at least upgrade. How is this really different? One suggestion, take the time to learn how to use Terminal. You'll never regret it.
Help me out here. I'm a guitarist and web geek. So, I know shit about keyboards and synths. Pne thing I need to know, do I need to buy Cubase in order to play VST plugins? What other software will run VST's? Oh yea, I just bought a dual 1ghz Mac, so obviously I'd prefer Mac centric software. i'm planning on basing a home studio around my Mac. I've also got 5 or 6 x86 PC's laying around, do I' have no real problem running that kind of stuff also.
I'm looking for recomendations here gang. Help out a poor, addled, mostly deaf guitarist.
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The default shell on Mac OS X is tcsh. At least on mine it is.
Wassup, Lazarus? I was in the Gay Deceiver getting some.
BTW, the "Gay Deceiver" was the name of a multi-universe traveling space vehicle/car/AI in "The Number of the Beast" by Robert Heinlein, for those of you who have no clue.
1. Users have the right to "time-shift" content that they have legally acquired.
This gives you the right to record video or audio for later viewing or listening. For example, you can use a VCR to record a TV show and play it back later.
2. Users have the right to "space-shift" content that they have legally acquired..
This gives you the right to use your content in different places (as long as each use is personal and non-commercial). For example, you can copy a CD to a portable music player so that you can listen to the songs while you're jogging.
3. Users have the right to make backup copies of their content...
This gives you the right to make archival copies to be used in the event that your original copies are destroyed.
4. Users have the right to use legally acquired content on the platform of their choice....
This gives you the right to listen to music on your Rio, to watch TV on your iMac, and to view DVDs on your Linux computer.
5. Users have the right to translate legally acquired content into comparable formats.
This gives you the right to modify content in order to make it more usable. For example, a blind person can modify an electronic book so that the content can be read out loud.
6. Users have the right to use technology in order to achieve the rights previously mentioned..
This last right guarantees your ability to exercise your other rights. Certain recent copyright laws have paradoxical loopholes that claim to grant certain rights but then criminalize all technologies that could allow you to exercise those rights. In contrast, this Bill of Rights states that no technological barriers can deprive you of your other fair use rights.
This is one of the most sensible things I've seen online for quite a while.
I for one really like this idea. My intentions are to fully support the organization and it's idea of a consumer bill of rights. We've needed something like this for a long time. Who the hell does Hollywood think they are, standing in the way of progress? The sorid history of Hollywoods past tells us a lot about the enemy. Think about the "starlet pools" they used to keep around (not that I'd mind diving in...) for "casting". Even in the '30s and '40s they were hosing people with shitty contracts. The music industry was actually worse back then than Hollywood. How can we expect them to change now, especially since we are literally threatening their existence. Of course they're going to fight! All I can really say is, I hope we can win, because the future looks pretty bleak, what with the RIAA Stormtroopers and the MPAA KGB knocking on our doors, demanding we turn our equipment over.
Great info! Thanx. I wish there was an Apple store around here (Madison, WI). I'll probably have to go to Chicago to find one. Oh well,I'll be talkin to the Mac users group in the area.
Just for your info, you aren't stuck to a one-button mouse. I'm using a wacom tablet, with a pen and a 5 button mouse. Really, most USB mice will probably work just fine. All a right mouse button is for on a Mac, as far as I can tell, is to emulate holding "control" as you click. The rest are pretty much for surfing and such.
After much hand-wringing and stomach-churning, I just got my new Mac on Saturday. I say it that way because I've never had a Mac before. I sprung for a dual 1GHZ G4. I've always built my own PC's before this, so it's a humongus change for me just to buy a pre-built machine, much less something as alien as a Mac! Luckily, I found out how to fire up the terminal right away. A command line! Whew! I'm home baby! I downloaded XDarwin that same day. Aqua is an in credibly beautiful GUI, and I get to run Xwindows apps on it. Ya know, I really look forward to participating in the new, growing Mac community.
Robert Heinlein in "Life Line," one of his earliest published stories:
"There has grown in the minds of certain groups in this country the idea that just because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years, the government and the courts are charged with guaranteeing such a profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary to public interest. This strange doctrine is supported by neither statute or common law. Neither corporations or individuals have the right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped, or turned back."
Had a bitch of a time finding it. Eventually, I found it in a Jon Katz artice on/.!
If all you want to do is use your cellphone as a telephone, fine. Why did you even pay $99 for it? Hell, there's plenty of free (with service contract) phones out there. I personally want a phone I can use to plan my time, play games, send and recieve email, get pages, and oh yea! send and recive phone calls. My current phone is close, but no paging. As in having the coverage a regular pager has. We're gettin there though.
Yet another symptom of the corporatizing of America. If you have money, you win. Isn't this country "by the people, for the people"? Obviously, Xybernaut is a company losing money. Trying to "protect" your companies interests by suing potential customers is a *real* good way to piss off most of the rest. Personally, I will never, ever buy anything from this company. I will also never recommend it's products to anyone I know. Hey Newman (I'm sure you or one of your storm troopers, er, lawyers will be reading this). I have people asking me every single day about what tech items to buy. From corporate upper management to home owners. I'd say if your weren't percieved as being so incompetent, you wouldn't draw comments like the ones you sued Whatley over. Comments like this:
"If Steve Newman was not a relative his job would consist of... 'Would you like fries with that?'"
heh. Now, you are a big item here and I'm sure a bunch of other forums and blogs. Good luck trying to sell anything at all.
I think it means that the $400 I just spent for my Kyocera smart phone is for naught. I really wish that the cell vendors over here in the states would get their shit together and offer us something decent. How about simply bringing us to the same level as European cell service? I'm not sure that this imode internet phone is that useful though. All the article really says is that DoCoMo is contracted with AT&T. At least with my phone, I get the Palm OS. Granted, the screen is about 25% smaller, but I can still play solitare in meetings with it quite nicely. And, of course, get all the functional;ity of a Palm PDA plus some cool phone specific apps.
"I am sorry but its DMCA. I haven't heard of the DCMA."
Red Avenger, I had exactly one sip of Mountain Dew when I wrote that. I was damn lucky to even be able to focus, much less remember an acronym. Actully, I consider myself to be a conservative. Decidedly *NOT* holy roller right, closer to gun totin' right. Think NRA. Anyway, no offense taken.
Where's yours?
MTC-00004462
Any US citizen who didn't comment on the "settlement" doesn't deserve to be able to bitch about the outcome. My comment is actually a copy of someones elses writing, but at least I took the time to email it. The part about the DOJ saying "We really like our little agreement with Sata^H^H^H^HMicrosoft, so we're going to ignore all of your comments and continue as we are" REALLY SUCKS ASS! Damnit! If there ever was a time to talk revolution, this is it. The DCMA and probably the SSSCA soon have done more to undermine the constitution and the bill of rights than all of the communists that ever existed! God, this boils my hemmoroids! I've never felt this helpless. What is our great country coming to? An ever widening spiral of lost rights and freedom? I say to the Congress, DOJ, FBI, CIA and whoever else is with the Fed reading this, tread lightly where our freedoms lie, for you shall feel the wrath of those you wish to step on. Not a threat, but my god given right to protest and make for change. It's written down, right in the constitution. Don't ever forget that.
PHEW! That was one of my better rants. Back to eating my MacDonalds breakfast now...
Just as a comparison, we're buying a newer (4 year old) house just outside of Madison, WI. It's 2200 square feet, the lot is 110'x500' (yep, damn huge lot) 3/4 of which is tree covered. We're paying $199,100 for the house and expect to pay $5000 per year property tax. Did I mention I finally get a 2 car garage? WOOHOO! A place to store motorcycles! Oh yea, there's a house attached to the garage...
Ya know, Wisconsin is overlooked by a lot of companies. Where do you think Cray is from? Yes, I know Cray is tanking. They made some dumb business moves. That doesn't mean that their tech isnt' any good though. There's a lot of smart people here with decent wages. Outside of Madison and Milwaukee, it's real cheap to live. The house I was talking about before could probably be had in La Crosse for $110k or so.
I'm running Charter Pipeline now, after the @home death. My connection is substantially slower, averaging 50k/s. Lots of dropped connections, I think the lease for their DHCP is set to 15 minutes. My cable modem rarely stays connected more than 2 days at a time. I originally had Charter Pipeline for my hosting busness about 3 years ago. I dropped out of a 2 year contract because of absolutely shitty service. I'm going to drop them again for the same reason. Luckily, I can get DSL at our new house.
"This would destroy Windows desktop operating systems as a stable and consistent development platform,"
Does this mean that MS's products are stable and consistent now? Damn, they must be doing good drugs in Redmond. Win2k server is somewhat more stable than WinNT, but nowhere near a unix box.
OK, I'm gonna stick my neck out. I run a ~small~ hosting company, on the side, no dialup. I'll give Slashdotters a deal. US$14.95/month Running on FreeBSD (4.3 right now). Moving to a T3 next month. You get:
Host based domain hosting on Apache
PHP
MySQL
50mb of space
A shell account
Pop3 Email for your domain, I run qmail with sqwebmail and qmailadmin. You need to use your ISP's sendmail to send from your account. I don't want any relays.
I don't throttle bandwidth, but if it gets to be huge...
No pr0n, hate sites or other stupid shit. Well, ok we don't really mind some nudity...:)
Figure out my email above for more.
I really don't check other prices, this is simply what I want to host a domain. So no bitchin if it's to high or not the right amount of space or whatever.
Dude, they still play cartoons here. I'm not a student, but we wander down to the Union Terrace once in a while. For those unfortunates that have never been here, it's an outdoor bar on a big lake and is an excellent spot to party. I know I've seen signs up advertising cartoon showings.
Somebody _please_ mod parent up? K? I damn near fell off my chair with the though picture of the greatest cartoonists ever falling back to earth, hanging onto an anvil. Leaving an anvil/cartoonist shaped hole in the clouds.
RIP Chuck, the universe is going to miss you. I know I certainly will. Luckily, we'll (hopefully) always be able to see your work.
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I installed Fink on my OS X box a couple of weeks ago. I've been using dselect to get software. You're saying that apt-"whatever" will be easier? I do know that dselect is a kluged up mess. What I would love is a native Mac OS X app to front end fink or apt-blah, or at least an XWindow app that will run on Darwin. Oh well, until I can write my own OS X apps, I'll learn the cli version of apt.
I have to assume you either fell through a synchrotron beam this morning or your coffee pot was too close to the uranium plasma frabulator. Foo help us if you're serious. Unless you really like to watch a windows box try to count past 4.
Anyway, I view these ad's as Microsoft caving. They obviously trying to break into the "big iron" market. To bad M$! Unix will be pretty much impossible to replace.
Why not simply make it a link?
Ian Hickson's Evil Test Suite Results
That way there's no worry about the random spaces put in by Slashcode.
Well, Alan, as a new Mac user, I think OS X is the cat's ass and OS9 is a a jumbled, confusing, ugly piece of crap. I'm not saying that to flame you, that's just the way I feel about the two OS's. Coming from the x86 world is a HUGE adjustment compared to the difference between OS9 and OS X. I just try to take it into stride. I'm also a little confused here, how can OS X be so frustrating to you old timer Mac users? Are you really just afraid of change? I know there was a big flame war when the PPC came out and people needed to buy new software or at least upgrade. How is this really different? One suggestion, take the time to learn how to use Terminal. You'll never regret it.
Help me out here. I'm a guitarist and web geek. So, I know shit about keyboards and synths. Pne thing I need to know, do I need to buy Cubase in order to play VST plugins? What other software will run VST's? Oh yea, I just bought a dual 1ghz Mac, so obviously I'd prefer Mac centric software. i'm planning on basing a home studio around my Mac. I've also got 5 or 6 x86 PC's laying around, do I' have no real problem running that kind of stuff also.
I'm looking for recomendations here gang. Help out a poor, addled, mostly deaf guitarist.
The default shell on Mac OS X is tcsh. At least on mine it is.
Ira Howard, please phone home!
Wassup, Lazarus? I was in the Gay Deceiver getting some.
BTW, the "Gay Deceiver" was the name of a multi-universe traveling space vehicle/car/AI in "The Number of the Beast" by Robert Heinlein, for those of you who have no clue.
Here's a copy of the Bill of Rights they're touting:
1. Users have the right to "time-shift" content that they have legally acquired.
This gives you the right to record video or audio for later viewing or listening. For example, you can use a VCR to record a TV show and play it back later.
2. Users have the right to "space-shift" content that they have legally acquired..
This gives you the right to use your content in different places (as long as each use is personal and non-commercial). For example, you can copy a CD to a portable music player so that you can listen to the songs while you're jogging.
3. Users have the right to make backup copies of their content...
This gives you the right to make archival copies to be used in the event that your original copies are destroyed.
4. Users have the right to use legally acquired content on the platform of their choice....
This gives you the right to listen to music on your Rio, to watch TV on your iMac, and to view DVDs on your Linux computer.
5. Users have the right to translate legally acquired content into comparable formats.
This gives you the right to modify content in order to make it more usable. For example, a blind person can modify an electronic book so that the content can be read out loud.
6. Users have the right to use technology in order to achieve the rights previously mentioned..
This last right guarantees your ability to exercise your other rights. Certain recent copyright laws have paradoxical loopholes that claim to grant certain rights but then criminalize all technologies that could allow you to exercise those rights. In contrast, this Bill of Rights states that no technological barriers can deprive you of your other fair use rights.
This is one of the most sensible things I've seen online for quite a while.
I for one really like this idea. My intentions are to fully support the organization and it's idea of a consumer bill of rights. We've needed something like this for a long time. Who the hell does Hollywood think they are, standing in the way of progress? The sorid history of Hollywoods past tells us a lot about the enemy. Think about the "starlet pools" they used to keep around (not that I'd mind diving in...) for "casting". Even in the '30s and '40s they were hosing people with shitty contracts. The music industry was actually worse back then than Hollywood. How can we expect them to change now, especially since we are literally threatening their existence. Of course they're going to fight! All I can really say is, I hope we can win, because the future looks pretty bleak, what with the RIAA Stormtroopers and the MPAA KGB knocking on our doors, demanding we turn our equipment over.
Great info! Thanx. I wish there was an Apple store around here (Madison, WI). I'll probably have to go to Chicago to find one. Oh well ,I'll be talkin to the Mac users group in the area.
Just for your info, you aren't stuck to a one-button mouse. I'm using a wacom tablet, with a pen and a 5 button mouse. Really, most USB mice will probably work just fine. All a right mouse button is for on a Mac, as far as I can tell, is to emulate holding "control" as you click. The rest are pretty much for surfing and such.
After much hand-wringing and stomach-churning, I just got my new Mac on Saturday. I say it that way because I've never had a Mac before. I sprung for a dual 1GHZ G4. I've always built my own PC's before this, so it's a humongus change for me just to buy a pre-built machine, much less something as alien as a Mac! Luckily, I found out how to fire up the terminal right away. A command line! Whew! I'm home baby! I downloaded XDarwin that same day. Aqua is an in credibly beautiful GUI, and I get to run Xwindows apps on it. Ya know, I really look forward to participating in the new, growing Mac community.
Robert Heinlein in "Life Line," one of his earliest published stories:
Had a bitch of a time finding it. Eventually, I found it in a Jon Katz artice on"There has grown in the minds of certain groups in this country the idea that just because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years, the government and the courts are charged with guaranteeing such a profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary to public interest. This strange doctrine is supported by neither statute or common law. Neither corporations or individuals have the right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped, or turned back."
If all you want to do is use your cellphone as a telephone, fine. Why did you even pay $99 for it? Hell, there's plenty of free (with service contract) phones out there. I personally want a phone I can use to plan my time, play games, send and recieve email, get pages, and oh yea! send and recive phone calls. My current phone is close, but no paging. As in having the coverage a regular pager has. We're gettin there though.
Yet another symptom of the corporatizing of America. If you have money, you win. Isn't this country "by the people, for the people"? Obviously, Xybernaut is a company losing money. Trying to "protect" your companies interests by suing potential customers is a *real* good way to piss off most of the rest. Personally, I will never, ever buy anything from this company. I will also never recommend it's products to anyone I know. Hey Newman (I'm sure you or one of your storm troopers, er, lawyers will be reading this). I have people asking me every single day about what tech items to buy. From corporate upper management to home owners. I'd say if your weren't percieved as being so incompetent, you wouldn't draw comments like the ones you sued Whatley over. Comments like this:
... 'Would you like fries with that?'"
"If Steve Newman was not a relative his job would consist of
heh. Now, you are a big item here and I'm sure a bunch of other forums and blogs. Good luck trying to sell anything at all.
I think it means that the $400 I just spent for my Kyocera smart phone is for naught. I really wish that the cell vendors over here in the states would get their shit together and offer us something decent. How about simply bringing us to the same level as European cell service? I'm not sure that this imode internet phone is that useful though. All the article really says is that DoCoMo is contracted with AT&T. At least with my phone, I get the Palm OS. Granted, the screen is about 25% smaller, but I can still play solitare in meetings with it quite nicely. And, of course, get all the functional;ity of a Palm PDA plus some cool phone specific apps.
"I am sorry but its DMCA. I haven't heard of the DCMA."
Red Avenger, I had exactly one sip of Mountain Dew when I wrote that. I was damn lucky to even be able to focus, much less remember an acronym. Actully, I consider myself to be a conservative. Decidedly *NOT* holy roller right, closer to gun totin' right. Think NRA. Anyway, no offense taken.
Where's yours?
MTC-00004462
Any US citizen who didn't comment on the "settlement" doesn't deserve to be able to bitch about the outcome. My comment is actually a copy of someones elses writing, but at least I took the time to email it. The part about the DOJ saying "We really like our little agreement with Sata^H^H^H^HMicrosoft, so we're going to ignore all of your comments and continue as we are" REALLY SUCKS ASS! Damnit! If there ever was a time to talk revolution, this is it. The DCMA and probably the SSSCA soon have done more to undermine the constitution and the bill of rights than all of the communists that ever existed! God, this boils my hemmoroids! I've never felt this helpless. What is our great country coming to? An ever widening spiral of lost rights and freedom? I say to the Congress, DOJ, FBI, CIA and whoever else is with the Fed reading this, tread lightly where our freedoms lie, for you shall feel the wrath of those you wish to step on. Not a threat, but my god given right to protest and make for change. It's written down, right in the constitution. Don't ever forget that.
PHEW! That was one of my better rants. Back to eating my MacDonalds breakfast now...
Just as a comparison, we're buying a newer (4 year old) house just outside of Madison, WI. It's 2200 square feet, the lot is 110'x500' (yep, damn huge lot) 3/4 of which is tree covered. We're paying $199,100 for the house and expect to pay $5000 per year property tax. Did I mention I finally get a 2 car garage? WOOHOO! A place to store motorcycles! Oh yea, there's a house attached to the garage...
Ya know, Wisconsin is overlooked by a lot of companies. Where do you think Cray is from? Yes, I know Cray is tanking. They made some dumb business moves. That doesn't mean that their tech isnt' any good though. There's a lot of smart people here with decent wages. Outside of Madison and Milwaukee, it's real cheap to live. The house I was talking about before could probably be had in La Crosse for $110k or so.
I'm running Charter Pipeline now, after the @home death. My connection is substantially slower, averaging 50k/s. Lots of dropped connections, I think the lease for their DHCP is set to 15 minutes. My cable modem rarely stays connected more than 2 days at a time. I originally had Charter Pipeline for my hosting busness about 3 years ago. I dropped out of a 2 year contract because of absolutely shitty service. I'm going to drop them again for the same reason. Luckily, I can get DSL at our new house.
"This would destroy Windows desktop operating systems as a stable and consistent development platform,"
/me shakes head, slowly walking in circles.
Does this mean that MS's products are stable and consistent now? Damn, they must be doing good drugs in Redmond. Win2k server is somewhat more stable than WinNT, but nowhere near a unix box.
Hey, someone mod parent up. It's the only link I see anywhere that actually works and shows pictures, at least to us using IE (gack...).
Very cool case! If cases like this where manufactured instead of custom made, I'd buy one.
Figure out my email above for more.
I really don't check other prices, this is simply what I want to host a domain. So no bitchin if it's to high or not the right amount of space or whatever.
Dude, they still play cartoons here. I'm not a student, but we wander down to the Union Terrace once in a while. For those unfortunates that have never been here, it's an outdoor bar on a big lake and is an excellent spot to party. I know I've seen signs up advertising cartoon showings.
Somebody _please_ mod parent up? K? I damn near fell off my chair with the though picture of the greatest cartoonists ever falling back to earth, hanging onto an anvil. Leaving an anvil/cartoonist shaped hole in the clouds.
RIP Chuck, the universe is going to miss you. I know I certainly will. Luckily, we'll (hopefully) always be able to see your work.