On average, just 2% of technology workers at seven Silicon Valley companies that have released staffing numbers are black; 3% are Hispanic.
But last year, 4.5% of all new recipients of bachelor's degrees in computer science or computer engineering from prestigious research universities were African American, and 6.5% were Hispanic, according to data from the Computing Research Association
Asians make up less than 6% of the population according to Google, whereas blacks are 13%. Yet the former are over 40% of the company at Facebook.
Include the immigrant dimension in those statistics and it makes a lot more sense. The Asian group includes Indian natives and other immigrant populations that have cultural norms very different then native populations.
Immigrants, regardless of race, have different rates of starting businesses, pursuing higher education and career in general.
For an accurate comparison you may have weed out 1st and 2nd generation immigrants to get a clearer racial comparison.
Or more aptly, those who apply and are the best fit for the job - there is no point in berating a company for woeful diversity hiring figures
Hiring a diverse team is not at odds with hiring the best fit for the job. Your quote assumes that the reason for the lack of black candidates is irrelevant, or at least should not be investigated by by hiring organizations.
No one is suggesting hiring workers who can't do the job. That would be silly. Rather, it's important for us to quantify the lack hires, and investigate the problem in general. This is science after all right?
Oh, should we resign to "it doesn't matter since tech is a perfect meritocracy?"
Well, it's not like black youth are inundated with the glorification of "thug life" and "gangsta" culture, or that blacks that *do* do well are often labeled by their peers as "actin' like dey white"...
I'm black and I don't know a single person that talks like that. Not among my family, friends, or acquaintances. I do encounter this stereotype quite frequently on television, music and on the internet though.
I'm not saying there aren't people who think like that. But that it's not as common way of think as rap videos and off-hand comments would lead you to believe.
E.g. How many of these people you overheard were actually being serious? And not making fun of the stereotype?
Isn't this place about science and scientific methodology? Do you or ( anyone who modded you up ) have statistics to back that up? Can you show that the correlation isn't to poverty, and not race? Or do we continue to discredit an entire race of people simply based on our own stereotypes and cognitive biases?
It is a lot easier to embrace an "open standard" when you developed it yourself, then donated it to a consortium.
WBEM is a decades old open standard implemented by just about every major software and hardware manufacturer out there. It's shipped with just about every OS. The computer you are using right now probably has CIM implementation built in or at least available in the core OS.
What Microsoft is giving the open-source community is a CIMON ( CIM Object Manager ) implementation. This is fully standards based and Microsoft is just donating the code. But as mentioned earlier Ubuntu and most OSes already ship with a lightweight CIMON.
If you did you would see that this is partnership with InfoSys Foundation. InfoSys is actually donating millions to be part of this non-profit effort. Secondly, they're helping Code.Org and not leading the effort.
With this announcement, Infosys Foundation USA becomes a Platinum-level sponsor of Code.org, providing not only financial support but also resources and extensive experience in computer science education.
The Chairperson of Infosys Foundation USA, Vandana Sikka, has been appointed to the Code.org Board. Sikka’s background includes a master’s degree in computer science and a successful track record in product design, development and management in several Silicon Valley startups. She joins fellow Code.org board members, including representatives from companies such as Google, Microsoft and Amazon.com.
Don't let Slashdot bloggers work you into a frenzy whenever they feel like. Isn't critical and scientific thinking a big deal around here? Or does that not apply to organizations we don't like.
If you'd like to use your native language skills ( E.g. Java from Android ) on alternate platform ( e.g. IOS ), frameworks can be useful. I like open-sourced CodeNameOne and RoboVM because I work on the Java side of things and my needs on alternate platforms are fairly basic. An IOS developer may easily go in the other direction.
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Please read up on Utility Software, which has a very sizable list of examples written in Java. Personally, we have a list of utility software on the market written in Java.
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You must be a Java programmer. Garbage collection is generally a very bad idea for a systems language, because of the periodic stalls whilst it does the cleanup
Respectfully, you really need to research this if you believe that is the cause. Java is the enterprise systems language to beat today. And its Garbage collector does a fine job if you understand how it operates, just as with most other mature garbage collected runtimes.
No. We need to collectively get a fucking grip, and move on. Stupid kids doing stupid things.
Maybe we should wait for the charges to be filed before making this argument. As for expulsion, this will depend on the university's bylaws and code of conduct. I expect these will be reviewed.
Kids of all races get expelled for much less, I'm sure.
When they say it, it's art. When anyone else says the exact same thing, it's a hate crime.
Firstly, very few people are seriously framing this as a crime. Much less a hate-crime. This is a strawman, pure and simple.
Secondly, a lot of the outrage is from the fact that this is a campus related organization. The idea is that these students should be held to a higher standard than "gansta rappers".
Exactly....and had this been a Black fraternity chanting about honkies and crackers, absolutely NOTHING would be done about it, nor would it be getting national attention.
Do you or any of the readers that modded your comment "Informative" have any evidence to back that up?
Secondly, even if that was the case, would 2 wrongs make a right? Shouldn't we make sure that the Black fraternity was punished instead of defending the other intolerant fraternities?
but the point is that discrimination is everywhere and employed by all sorts of people.
And my point is that discrimination should be deplored no matter who it's coming from. I never thought "intolerant white people" when watching the video. I'm pretty sure many of us who thought the video is deplorable simply thought "intolerant people".
Why assume the actions are being criticized because the perpetrators are white?
The entirety of the greek system is racism and sexism in action. Give me a break with your feigned outrage.
So your argument is that since we should expect fraternities to be intolerant ( an unsubstantiated premise, but that's another argument ), then we should accept intolerance within these organizations?
Another example would be, since I expect the occasional murder in the city ( given the population size and crime statistics ), I should not be outraged when it occurs.
It always interests me how Slashdot deals with logic when discussing intolerance ( and H1Bs ) versus everything else.
System76 build quality is nothing compared to Dell, sorry. I just bought a Dell XPS to replace my System76 top of the line Gazelle. The S76 lasted 13 months then died. I've never had a Dell die on me, ever.
I just bought a XPS 15 with windows 2 weeks ago for Ubuntu because the XPS 13 was too underpowered for my needs. Why can't they offer Linux on the Quad-core/SSD/16GB systems?
I use Ubuntu as my workstation OS, and manage quite a few Ubuntu cloud instances ( among others ). There are so many small issues we have to deal with everyday. On the desktop side there minor "polish" issues, like settings that reset on reset ( e.g. Bluetooth radio ). There are random lockups ( I've tried several common systems, including one that came with Ubuntu). I have a brand new Dell XPS 15 coming in a week I hope fairs better.
The fact that there is no way to use hibernate. It's 2015 and we can't use hibernate! A basic OS feature.
On the server side, upstart is an absolute nightmare.
Ubuntu launches on every device that gains traction ( Ubuntu for tablets, phones, etc ). But it seems the basic OS is still very rough around basic edges. But I wish they would just give us a polished desktop. Even if it may cost more than Windows I'd personally pay for it.
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Include the immigrant dimension in those statistics and it makes a lot more sense. The Asian group includes Indian natives and other immigrant populations that have cultural norms very different then native populations.
Immigrants, regardless of race, have different rates of starting businesses, pursuing higher education and career in general.
For an accurate comparison you may have weed out 1st and 2nd generation immigrants to get a clearer racial comparison.
Hiring a diverse team is not at odds with hiring the best fit for the job. Your quote assumes that the reason for the lack of black candidates is irrelevant, or at least should not be investigated by by hiring organizations.
No one is suggesting hiring workers who can't do the job. That would be silly. Rather, it's important for us to quantify the lack hires, and investigate the problem in general. This is science after all right?
Oh, should we resign to "it doesn't matter since tech is a perfect meritocracy?"
I'm black and I don't know a single person that talks like that. Not among my family, friends, or acquaintances. I do encounter this stereotype quite frequently on television, music and on the internet though.
I'm not saying there aren't people who think like that. But that it's not as common way of think as rap videos and off-hand comments would lead you to believe.
E.g. How many of these people you overheard were actually being serious? And not making fun of the stereotype?
Is this still Slashdot? Do we still like, or report on Linux anymore?
Isn't this place about science and scientific methodology? Do you or ( anyone who modded you up ) have statistics to back that up? Can you show that the correlation isn't to poverty, and not race? Or do we continue to discredit an entire race of people simply based on our own stereotypes and cognitive biases?
WBEM is a decades old open standard implemented by just about every major software and hardware manufacturer out there. It's shipped with just about every OS. The computer you are using right now probably has CIM implementation built in or at least available in the core OS.
The standard is managed by the Distributed Management Task Force which includes most top software firms. Here is the Java JSR-48: WBEM Services Specification and Implementation for example.
What Microsoft is giving the open-source community is a CIMON ( CIM Object Manager ) implementation. This is fully standards based and Microsoft is just donating the code. But as mentioned earlier Ubuntu and most OSes already ship with a lightweight CIMON.
Same with Java and Scala. A strongly functional language that allows you to keep using the thousands of Java libraries out there.
If you did you would see that this is partnership with InfoSys Foundation. InfoSys is actually donating millions to be part of this non-profit effort. Secondly, they're helping Code.Org and not leading the effort.
Don't let Slashdot bloggers work you into a frenzy whenever they feel like. Isn't critical and scientific thinking a big deal around here? Or does that not apply to organizations we don't like.
If you'd like to use your native language skills ( E.g. Java from Android ) on alternate platform ( e.g. IOS ), frameworks can be useful. I like open-sourced CodeNameOne and RoboVM because I work on the Java side of things and my needs on alternate platforms are fairly basic. An IOS developer may easily go in the other direction.
Incorrect. http://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/machine-learning/
Please read up on Utility Software, which has a very sizable list of examples written in Java. Personally, we have a list of utility software on the market written in Java.
Respectfully, you really need to research this if you believe that is the cause. Java is the enterprise systems language to beat today. And its Garbage collector does a fine job if you understand how it operates, just as with most other mature garbage collected runtimes.
Also RoboVM if you'd like to leverage your Java skills. Allowing you to target Android and IOS.
http://www.javaworld.com/article/2836880/java-ios-developer/robovm-beckons-java-8-programmers-to-ios.html
People just say things on here and it's taken as fact. How is Java's String implementation overweight?
Java, like C# does use 16 bit char widths, but that actually makes it faster than variable width characters. That's why these languages do so.
So what about Java strings are 'overweight'?
Maybe we should wait for the charges to be filed before making this argument. As for expulsion, this will depend on the university's bylaws and code of conduct. I expect these will be reviewed.
Kids of all races get expelled for much less, I'm sure.
Firstly, very few people are seriously framing this as a crime. Much less a hate-crime. This is a strawman, pure and simple.
Secondly, a lot of the outrage is from the fact that this is a campus related organization. The idea is that these students should be held to a higher standard than "gansta rappers".
Do you or any of the readers that modded your comment "Informative" have any evidence to back that up?
Secondly, even if that was the case, would 2 wrongs make a right? Shouldn't we make sure that the Black fraternity was punished instead of defending the other intolerant fraternities?
And my point is that discrimination should be deplored no matter who it's coming from. I never thought "intolerant white people" when watching the video. I'm pretty sure many of us who thought the video is deplorable simply thought "intolerant people".
Why assume the actions are being criticized because the perpetrators are white?
So your argument is that since we should expect fraternities to be intolerant ( an unsubstantiated premise, but that's another argument ), then we should accept intolerance within these organizations?
Another example would be, since I expect the occasional murder in the city ( given the population size and crime statistics ), I should not be outraged when it occurs.
It always interests me how Slashdot deals with logic when discussing intolerance ( and H1Bs ) versus everything else.
System76 build quality is nothing compared to Dell, sorry. I just bought a Dell XPS to replace my System76 top of the line Gazelle. The S76 lasted 13 months then died. I've never had a Dell die on me, ever.
I just bought a XPS 15 with windows 2 weeks ago for Ubuntu because the XPS 13 was too underpowered for my needs. Why can't they offer Linux on the Quad-core/SSD/16GB systems?
I use Ubuntu as my workstation OS, and manage quite a few Ubuntu cloud instances ( among others ). There are so many small issues we have to deal with everyday. On the desktop side there minor "polish" issues, like settings that reset on reset ( e.g. Bluetooth radio ). There are random lockups ( I've tried several common systems, including one that came with Ubuntu). I have a brand new Dell XPS 15 coming in a week I hope fairs better.
The fact that there is no way to use hibernate. It's 2015 and we can't use hibernate! A basic OS feature.
On the server side, upstart is an absolute nightmare.
Ubuntu launches on every device that gains traction ( Ubuntu for tablets, phones, etc ). But it seems the basic OS is still very rough around basic edges. But I wish they would just give us a polished desktop. Even if it may cost more than Windows I'd personally pay for it.
There is very little public evidence proving or disproving who conducted the hack. That is as much as anyone knows as a fact.
W3C ORTC. Before you complain please research the standards. blog.webrtc.is/ is a great place to start.