He clearly leaked information the company considered private, and he should be sacked.
I call bullshit. The photo was taken outdoors, and I doubt the mere acquisition of G-5s could be considered private information. Unless they are stolen, somebody has to know they were purchased.
I think it's a case of Microsoft being pissed off because of perceived embarassment. That the firing is more embarassing to them than the photo was is yet another example of how damaging the mass neurosis is that separates them from truly long-term successful organizations.
I mean, you can dismiss Microsoft's comments as hype, but give them a little credit, they have a long-term ambitious goal for Windows. It'd be really nice to see that with Linux.
As ambitious and forward thinking as it might seem to develop a buddy bar, the reality is that free software develops around needs real people actually have, rather than the marketing strategy of a company like Microsoft. If an open source project garners interest, it will succeed; if not, it will fail. If you are really *that* concerned about free software, start a buddy bar project for X. Should you by some freak of the universe actually round up developers and users for such a thing, more power to you.
Linux is not about direction. We joke about world domination, but we're really trolling those in the non-free software community who are actually working toward that goal. Linux is about making shit work. That has a lot more to do with meeting Microsoft's goals circa 1984 (stability, useability), than it does with trying to keep up with their vaporware. If you really think that Linux needs focus groups and strategy meetings, then you don't understand what it is all about.
Alternatively, we could read books on how to help create environments that are mutually advantageous, supportive positive experiences rather than focusing on heading off to another dreary color washed existence where we hate our bosses and hate our jobs.
I'm confused. If that statement is sarcasm, I really don't get how you can make fun of utopia colored glasses if you seem to be attacking perceived leftist viewpoints wrt to the modern workplace.
If it's not sarcasm, then you are attacking an expository work on the basis that its findings disrupt your view of reality, and insist upon a feel-good solution to the problem - a characteristic leftist response to uncomfortable reality.
Is this some new flavor of kinder, gentler leftism? Are disgruntled employees the baby killers in this new world vision?
Excercise your capitalist freedom to change to someone else.
I have two choices with regard to my insurance. Enroll, or not. They were chosen by my employer. My only option is to seek another job, in a field and in an economy where that is impossible (I work in IT). The only way Capitalism could exist in health insurance would be for group rates to be illegal (more government intervention), and for your company to simply provide an insurance subsidy that you could combine with your own funds to buy your own health insurance. Then health insurance providers would have to directly compete for customers (horrors!).
OpenSSH is a part of Linux as much as RPC or Windows Messaging is a part of Windows.
So you can run Windows without a scrap of either of those applications running and/or run completely different renditions of each produced by other parties?
First of all, I've already lost this argument. See this post for the winning point.
That said...
Then you can wait in line for months to years for non-critical medical procedures that you could have been performed swiftly in the US.
What insurance plan are you on? I had to wait half a year in pain to get a hernia repaired on privately secured medical service paid for by privately (and handsomely) paid health insurance. And I get to pay $1000 in deductibles and copayments for my trouble!
I'd be very reluctant to let them play such a game. Am i a hypocrite?
That depends on what you are actually trying to accomplish. In what ways are your decisions about your own life different than the decisions you would make about the lives of your children?
I feel much better now that I know I'm not crazy. I totally saw this in Underworld every time a large portion of the screen featured a solid light color, even though my wife insisted I was hallucinating. It looked like a pattern of six dots, two rows of three dots, flashing on the screen. Drove me up the frickin wall.
When you pick up the phone to call ATA, what you are doing is harassment. You have nothing to sell them.
So the only differentiating factor between harassment and selling is the goal of the behavior, and, in the case of selling, the ends justifies the means.
In fact, you would almost certainly (with few exceptions) not be calling them unless you knew that thousands of your peers would also be calling. You hope that your actions will cause problems for the ATA. You are participating in mob behavior.
So if all the telemarketers banded together to form a political action organization, would they be a mob? If so, would their mobness any more inculpate them than it does us, or does the intent to sell trump everything?
Which do you think is more prevalent in terms of internet-visible hosts? *nix systems running Apache or Microsoft systems running MSSQL?
Please compare the impact of SQL slammer with the Apache worm and get back to me if you really want to continue this discussion.
Secretaries shouldn't have to learn userland *nix just to type up a TPS cover sheet for their weekly memos.
Non-sequitor. Going from Word2k to WordXP is at least as violent a change as it would be to go to OpenOffice, with the exception that OO interops better with Word2K.
That being said you can run GNU/Linux and get rooted just as easily as you could with Windows if you don't patch your system.
Getting "rooted" (ie - having your system compromised by a real live human) isn't so much the problem. It's the worldwide worm of unbelievable scale, speed, and impact that poses a real problem. The ability to automate evil is a special and unique characteristic of Microsoft systems. There has been only one GNU/Linux worm, and it wasn't even a blip on the CodeRed/MSBlaster radar.
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Man, you hit that dead on. If course, being an NRA member and a Libertarian, I completely agree.
Right on my tivo remote.
He clearly leaked information the company considered private, and he should be sacked.
I call bullshit. The photo was taken outdoors, and I doubt the mere acquisition of G-5s could be considered private information. Unless they are stolen, somebody has to know they were purchased.
I think it's a case of Microsoft being pissed off because of perceived embarassment. That the firing is more embarassing to them than the photo was is yet another example of how damaging the mass neurosis is that separates them from truly long-term successful organizations.
The matter inside the bubble is essentially motionless relative to itself.
I don't know about you, but I just don't trust any matter that isn't motionless relative to itself.
I mean, you can dismiss Microsoft's comments as hype, but give them a little credit, they have a long-term ambitious goal for Windows. It'd be really nice to see that with Linux.
As ambitious and forward thinking as it might seem to develop a buddy bar, the reality is that free software develops around needs real people actually have, rather than the marketing strategy of a company like Microsoft. If an open source project garners interest, it will succeed; if not, it will fail. If you are really *that* concerned about free software, start a buddy bar project for X. Should you by some freak of the universe actually round up developers and users for such a thing, more power to you.
Linux is not about direction. We joke about world domination, but we're really trolling those in the non-free software community who are actually working toward that goal. Linux is about making shit work. That has a lot more to do with meeting Microsoft's goals circa 1984 (stability, useability), than it does with trying to keep up with their vaporware. If you really think that Linux needs focus groups and strategy meetings, then you don't understand what it is all about.
Alternatively, we could read books on how to help create environments that are mutually advantageous, supportive positive experiences rather than focusing on heading off to another dreary color washed existence where we hate our bosses and hate our jobs.
I'm confused. If that statement is sarcasm, I really don't get how you can make fun of utopia colored glasses if you seem to be attacking perceived leftist viewpoints wrt to the modern workplace. If it's not sarcasm, then you are attacking an expository work on the basis that its findings disrupt your view of reality, and insist upon a feel-good solution to the problem - a characteristic leftist response to uncomfortable reality.
Is this some new flavor of kinder, gentler leftism? Are disgruntled employees the baby killers in this new world vision?
Obviously not. Of course, I didn't know who you were before today, but thanks for clueing us in that you suck in the second paragraph of your article.
Wouldn't a Van Der Graff generator be more efficient?
I thought the admins were idiots if they didn't apply patches the instant they became available.
Interesting. I didn't know about that. Thanks.
Excercise your capitalist freedom to change to someone else.
I have two choices with regard to my insurance. Enroll, or not. They were chosen by my employer. My only option is to seek another job, in a field and in an economy where that is impossible (I work in IT). The only way Capitalism could exist in health insurance would be for group rates to be illegal (more government intervention), and for your company to simply provide an insurance subsidy that you could combine with your own funds to buy your own health insurance. Then health insurance providers would have to directly compete for customers (horrors!).
OpenSSH is a part of Linux as much as RPC or Windows Messaging is a part of Windows.
So you can run Windows without a scrap of either of those applications running and/or run completely different renditions of each produced by other parties?
First of all, I've already lost this argument. See this post for the winning point.
That said...
Then you can wait in line for months to years for non-critical medical procedures that you could have been performed swiftly in the US.
What insurance plan are you on? I had to wait half a year in pain to get a hernia repaired on privately secured medical service paid for by privately (and handsomely) paid health insurance. And I get to pay $1000 in deductibles and copayments for my trouble!
Direct hit on my point. I concede the argument.
Of corporate greed deliberately damaging the public good.
I need remedial lessons. Someone please tell me again why capitalism is good.
I'd be very reluctant to let them play such a game. Am i a hypocrite?
That depends on what you are actually trying to accomplish. In what ways are your decisions about your own life different than the decisions you would make about the lives of your children?
If a significant difference does exist, why?
A game that lets you pee on the mirror in a public restroom? Who can say no to that?
I feel much better now that I know I'm not crazy. I totally saw this in Underworld every time a large portion of the screen featured a solid light color, even though my wife insisted I was hallucinating. It looked like a pattern of six dots, two rows of three dots, flashing on the screen. Drove me up the frickin wall.
It now points to freenet's donation page.
Well, they did seem to go for this with regard to his arch enemy.
So the only differentiating factor between harassment and selling is the goal of the behavior, and, in the case of selling, the ends justifies the means.
In fact, you would almost certainly (with few exceptions) not be calling them unless you knew that thousands of your peers would also be calling. You hope that your actions will cause problems for the ATA. You are participating in mob behavior.So if all the telemarketers banded together to form a political action organization, would they be a mob? If so, would their mobness any more inculpate them than it does us, or does the intent to sell trump everything?
I don't see anything new here.
About this very thing, but I can't find the link just now...
Which do you think is more prevalent in terms of internet-visible hosts? *nix systems running Apache or Microsoft systems running MSSQL?
Please compare the impact of SQL slammer with the Apache worm and get back to me if you really want to continue this discussion.
Non-sequitor. Going from Word2k to WordXP is at least as violent a change as it would be to go to OpenOffice, with the exception that OO interops better with Word2K.
That being said you can run GNU/Linux and get rooted just as easily as you could with Windows if you don't patch your system.Getting "rooted" (ie - having your system compromised by a real live human) isn't so much the problem. It's the worldwide worm of unbelievable scale, speed, and impact that poses a real problem. The ability to automate evil is a special and unique characteristic of Microsoft systems. There has been only one GNU/Linux worm, and it wasn't even a blip on the CodeRed/MSBlaster radar.
The problem is Microsoft.