Eh? The Earth has the same amount of fresh water it's always had and always will. It's a ">closed system and any water you see/drink/urinate now has been around pretty much doing it's thing since forever.
As a sysadmin, I have to ask how features like pop-up spellcheck and "omini" completion will help me edit config files on a vt102 terminal, (OK, my hard terminal is actually a vt520). vim is basically becoming a graphically-dependent editor that happens to use a similar editing structure to vi. Yes, I know about vi compatability mode, but that just throws out most of the last 'n' years of development.
Those features are aimed at people using vim as a programming editor (although I use it for emails via mutt as well along with just about everything). Also, the article showed gvim, rather than plain vim (which is entirely curses based with the exact same featureset).
It sounds to me like vim is overkill for what you're doing anyway (way too bloated and packed with unnecessary features for config file editing) - why not stick to a pure vi, like nvi?
My point? Not that development should be stopped, or that these goll-durned newfangled features ain't right, but that I wish it wasn't always trumpeted as "vi--but better." Most of the 'better' part of is are things that point away from vi.
From a my standpoint as a developer, it is vi -- but better. From a sysadmin standpoint, it's vi -- but more bloaty with useless stuff. I stick to nvi for servers since vim is just an unnecessary overhead. For day to day work though, I couldn't live without vim.
There are no index registers, no flags, no predicates, nothing.
Not that I've done any assembly for a while, but without flags how can you perform comparisons (eg: 6502 uses the zero flag for equality in comparisons) and how do you know whether a subtraction/addition operation has overflowed the register without a carry flag? What about conditional branching?
That aside, MIPS looks like a very elegant architecture (x86 is just nasty).
And you sound like a hopeless fanboy who won't face facts even when the founder of the damn project is telling you it's a bunch of outdated crap.
He was arguing that the project is irrelevant when it quite clearly isn't and has its place.Just because it doesn't have some of the features of Linux/FreeBSD doesn't make it irrelevant or useless. I was just pointing out that many people find it extremely useful for certain roles (I personally think it's a great, solid server OS).
Also, he's one of the founders, not THE founder. And a founder who was pushed out 5 years ago at that. Think he's perhaps a little bitter?
Oh, and calling me names makes you sound like a dick:-)
I love NetSBD. It's stable, it's fast, the package management is great (and upto date), NetBSD folks don't seem to feel the need to evangalise and beat people over the head with their OS choice. A lot of interesting development is also done in NetBSD (like integrating Xen into NetBSD 3.0, the CCD driver, RAIDframe, etc).
I don't understand what this guy's on about - I use it and love it, so do lots of other people, we have upto date software and a great base system. How exactly is NetBSD irrelevant again? Is he bitching because of a lack of marketshare compared to other BSD/Linux distros? In a world of free software, why exactly does that matter?
It's disingenuous to bitch about the things he does as if they were important - flash file system? So what? Journaled file system? There's a very good reason for the omission of journalling and you can't tell me this guy doesn't know about softdeps.
Just sounds to me like this guy is pissed off with not getting some kind of glory for his work and it's all sour grapes.
Well, I tried the signup but to my surprise "England is not a recognised country". Even though I picked it from their drop down box and it was quite clearly visible and zoomed in on the map.
Yeah! Damn those blobs, giving you all that performance!!
Why would an open source driver be slower than blobs if the manufacturers created it?
The way I see it, by giving ATI/Nv my money I'm saying "hey, it's ok to pollute my system with code I can't look at" (and yes, I am capable of looking at it, but even if I wasn't *someone* is and that's the point). So Intel will be getting my money when I buy a new motherboard.
And it's not just about games - Xgl/compiz, xcompmgr, etc. etc.
WHY is it that every time I post a comment some total tool mods me overrated? It was a relevant comment to the discussion, one I think many people share (we're sick of there being no decent 3D cards with non-proprietary *nix drivers).
Whoever gave me that overrated mod. Fuck you, I hope you get cancer you power-drunk knob-jockey.
This is a great move by Intel - I know which vendor I'll be picking for my next 3D card. I HATE that I only have the choice of Nvidia or ATI's "mystery binary blobs" to play games.
...but I just figued with the lack of good accounting apps out there for linux...
There are plenty of good free personal finance apps for Linux without having to buy a licence for a proprietary java application.
I personally use FruityBanking, although I'm a little biased since I wrote it. It's modelled on GnuCash, but with a web interface, and written in Python so everyone can play and it's flexible, open, easy to build on and compatible with SQLite, MySQL and PostgreSQL.
What a load of rubbish - viruses infect via operating system and application vulnerabilities, the chipset those are running on has very little relevance.
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Earth is increasingly short of fresh water....
Eh? The Earth has the same amount of fresh water it's always had and always will. It's a ">closed system and any water you see/drink/urinate now has been around pretty much doing it's thing since forever.
Could it be that since 1995 other products (DVDs, video games, etc.) are competing for the disposable income that people previously spent on music?
Wow, we are really peeling back the foreskin of quality here
That is without a doubt the most disgusting metaphor I've seen in some time! Well done!
As a sysadmin, I have to ask how features like pop-up spellcheck and "omini" completion will help me edit config files on a vt102 terminal, (OK, my hard terminal is actually a vt520). vim is basically becoming a graphically-dependent editor that happens to use a similar editing structure to vi. Yes, I know about vi compatability mode, but that just throws out most of the last 'n' years of development.
Those features are aimed at people using vim as a programming editor (although I use it for emails via mutt as well along with just about everything). Also, the article showed gvim, rather than plain vim (which is entirely curses based with the exact same featureset).
It sounds to me like vim is overkill for what you're doing anyway (way too bloated and packed with unnecessary features for config file editing) - why not stick to a pure vi, like nvi?
My point? Not that development should be stopped, or that these goll-durned newfangled features ain't right, but that I wish it wasn't always trumpeted as "vi--but better." Most of the 'better' part of is are things that point away from vi.
From a my standpoint as a developer, it is vi -- but better. From a sysadmin standpoint, it's vi -- but more bloaty with useless stuff. I stick to nvi for servers since vim is just an unnecessary overhead. For day to day work though, I couldn't live without vim.
But didn't you just say you used Ubuntu? Last I checked OpenOffice, FireFox and Evolution were installed by default....
There are no index registers, no flags, no predicates, nothing.
Not that I've done any assembly for a while, but without flags how can you perform comparisons (eg: 6502 uses the zero flag for equality in comparisons) and how do you know whether a subtraction/addition operation has overflowed the register without a carry flag? What about conditional branching?
That aside, MIPS looks like a very elegant architecture (x86 is just nasty).
And you sound like a hopeless fanboy who won't face facts even when the founder of the damn project is telling you it's a bunch of outdated crap.
He was arguing that the project is irrelevant when it quite clearly isn't and has its place.Just because it doesn't have some of the features of Linux/FreeBSD doesn't make it irrelevant or useless. I was just pointing out that many people find it extremely useful for certain roles (I personally think it's a great, solid server OS).
Also, he's one of the founders, not THE founder. And a founder who was pushed out 5 years ago at that. Think he's perhaps a little bitter?
Oh, and calling me names makes you sound like a dick :-)
I love NetSBD. It's stable, it's fast, the package management is great (and upto date), NetBSD folks don't seem to feel the need to evangalise and beat people over the head with their OS choice. A lot of interesting development is also done in NetBSD (like integrating Xen into NetBSD 3.0, the CCD driver, RAIDframe, etc).
I don't understand what this guy's on about - I use it and love it, so do lots of other people, we have upto date software and a great base system. How exactly is NetBSD irrelevant again? Is he bitching because of a lack of marketshare compared to other BSD/Linux distros? In a world of free software, why exactly does that matter?
It's disingenuous to bitch about the things he does as if they were important - flash file system? So what? Journaled file system? There's a very good reason for the omission of journalling and you can't tell me this guy doesn't know about softdeps.
Just sounds to me like this guy is pissed off with not getting some kind of glory for his work and it's all sour grapes.
Well, I tried the signup but to my surprise "England is not a recognised country". Even though I picked it from their drop down box and it was quite clearly visible and zoomed in on the map.
Refresh my memory, what model do VMWare use? Oh, that's right! Software assisted virtualisation.
And it's better they say? I'm shocked.
Yeah! Damn those blobs, giving you all that performance!!
Why would an open source driver be slower than blobs if the manufacturers created it?
The way I see it, by giving ATI/Nv my money I'm saying "hey, it's ok to pollute my system with code I can't look at" (and yes, I am capable of looking at it, but even if I wasn't *someone* is and that's the point). So Intel will be getting my money when I buy a new motherboard.
And it's not just about games - Xgl/compiz, xcompmgr, etc. etc.
WHY is it that every time I post a comment some total tool mods me overrated? It was a relevant comment to the discussion, one I think many people share (we're sick of there being no decent 3D cards with non-proprietary *nix drivers).
Whoever gave me that overrated mod. Fuck you, I hope you get cancer you power-drunk knob-jockey.
This is a great move by Intel - I know which vendor I'll be picking for my next 3D card. I HATE that I only have the choice of Nvidia or ATI's "mystery binary blobs" to play games.
Did I miss something?
Yes. You're supposed to ask a question, which will be submitted to Max and he can answer in a later article.
Welcome to Slashdot :-)
chroot jails are a BSD thing, actually.
Actually, the BSD jail is far more than a chroot. Chroot has been available under Linux/Unixes for a long time.
Oh my god! He used the phrase "could not care less" correctly! Obviously not an American ;-)
There are plenty of good free personal finance apps for Linux without having to buy a licence for a proprietary java application.
I personally use FruityBanking, although I'm a little biased since I wrote it. It's modelled on GnuCash, but with a web interface, and written in Python so everyone can play and it's flexible, open, easy to build on and compatible with SQLite, MySQL and PostgreSQL.
Spelling? Who needs it ;-)
I'd like to nominate this "best irony in a post seen on Slashdot. Ever."
I'm suprised no one, especially Sun, have tried it earlier.
They did (along with lots of other OSS toolkits - get googling)
What a load of rubbish - viruses infect via operating system and application vulnerabilities, the chipset those are running on has very little relevance.
Just don't confuse your hobby with your job.
Yeah, no-one likes a jobby!
For the benefit of the grouchy mod that didn't find this funny, EMF were a UK band who had a chart-topping hit - "Unbelievable".
Made me laugh anyway - sorry, no mod points today.
Actually, Less is much better than more. It has a website for starters.
Now that's cheap enough for me to afford.
It might be cheap enough for you, but it certainly isn't free enough for me.
I use NetBSD and I doubt they'll be porting the proprietary drivers anytime soon.