One particular security site using Mambo a fairly regular slashdotting in it's stride. The whole DevShed network is running on Mambo as well (somewhat customised though).
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Before you publish your article, make sure you spellcheck it first. But somehow I doubt you lack the necessary articulation for such endeavour.
Before you trash the guy I suggest you check both his listed homepage and his accepted article summary. He's already had reviews of BSD and Star Office on Slashdot.
I never thought about the GPL like that, but you are absolutly right. It's really that simple. No wonder Darl and his lawyers couldn't understand.
This is why the GPL is so beautiful, it's one of the most elegant hacks ever made.
Eben Moglen put it this way when he spoke at Harvard a while back...
The grave difficulty that SCO has with free software isn't their attack; it's the inadequacy of their defense. In order to defend yourself in a case in which you are infringing the freedom of free software, you have to be prepared to meet a call that I make reasonably often with my colleagues at the Foundation who are here tonight. That telephone call goes like this. "Mr. Potential Defendant, you are distributing my client's copyrighted work without permission. Please stop. And if you want to continue to distribute it, we'll help you to get back your distribution rights, which have terminated by your infringement, but you are going to have to do it the right way."
At the moment that I make that call, the potential defendant's lawyer now has a choice. He can cooperate with us, or he can fight with us. And if he goes to court and fights with us, he will have a second choice before him. We will say to the judge, "Judge, Mr. Defendant has used our copyrighted work, copied it, modified it and distributed it without permission. Please make him stop."
One thing that the defendant can say is, "You're right. I have no license." Defendants do not want to say that, because if they say that they lose. So defendants, when they envision to themselves what they will say in court, realize that what they will say is, "But Judge, I do have a license. It's this here document, the GNU GPL. General Public License," at which point, because I know the license reasonably well, and I'm aware in what respect he is breaking it, I will say, "Well, Judge, he had that license but he violated its terms and under Section 4 of it, when he violated its terms, it stopped working for him."
But notice that in order to survive moment one in a lawsuit over free software, it is the defendant who must wave the GPL. It is his permission, his master key to a lawsuit that lasts longer than a nanosecond. This, quite simply, is the reason that lies behind the statement you have heard -- Mr. McBride made it here some weeks ago -- that there has never been a court test of the GPL.
To those who like to say there has never been a court test of the GPL, I have one simple thing to say: Don't blame me. I was perfectly happy to roll any time. It was the defendants who didn't want to do it. And when for ten solid years, people have turned down an opportunity to make a legal argument, guess what? It isn't any good.
The patch for Sasser was available 3 weeks before the virus was released.
You should also mention that the patch fucked SMP machines and possibly (depends how lucky you are) any NT machine with a partition over 7.8GB. When testing reveals that the patch is borked you do NOT install it.
Mandatory tipping is the stupidest idea in the world, tip for great service but don't tip because you have to.
Maybe you should learn how the US system works. Most serving staff are paid minimum wage but are assessed taxes based on an expectation of how much they will receive in tips which is in turn based on their total sales. The way this generally pans out is that their wage pays the tax bill and the tips are what they live on. If you don't tip then they served you for free.
In reality, calling it a tip is wrong. It's a service charge but as a courtesy to you the consumer it is left to you to decide how much the service was worth. 20% is about right for good service (I'm a former bar manageress so my definition of 'good' is 'everything spot on') with exceptional service being rewarded depending on how much it enhanced your dining experience. If you're rather dull and on a date but the waitress laughs and jokes with you and makes you appear more interesting and amusing than you really are (a highly prized skill) then isn't that worth a little extra?
Of course the converse also applies, you should pay less for poor service but only for the most appalling service should you pay nothing.
10oz chopped frozen spinach 4 large eggs 1/4 teaspoon crushed garlic salt & pepper to taste
1. Beat eggs 2. Chuck the rest in and mix. 3. Bake for 15 minutes on 400F.
You won't taste the spinach (this is why frozen is better, less taste) but you will get a base that tastes omelettey (i.e. goes well with cheese and other pizza type stuff) but is not greasy and can be eaten in slices like normal pizza:).
You can also use an omelette as a pizza base so long as you don't mind using a knife and fork;).
Many governments will probably disagree (and who am I?), but in my opinion, just being a citizen doesn't make you have any valid allegiance, unless and until you have taken some form of pledge or oath to certify or confirm the allegiance. In any other form of allegiance, freedom is suppressed.
Your opinions is not relevant, nor is that of anyone else. Treason in this case is not subject to discussion, it is not a matter of ethics or allegiance but a matter of simple law.
Many have imitated but none have ever come even close to the addictiveness that Planetarion used to have. The vicious political arena was a large part of what made it addictive, as a lone player you were dead so you HAD to join an alliance and all of a sudden there's a whole new social thing going on around you.
It's hard to believe how much you can love and despise a game at the same time:D
I'm on 56k dialup, if I update weekly then the update remains doable (I actually use -fuvD with emerge then re-emerge without -f). If I leave it a month then it turns into several days of downloading packages before starting the compile.
Gentoo on dialup means regular updates unless you want to end up in download hell.
From: Linus Torvalds [email blocked] Subject: Re: Linux GPL and binary module exception clause? Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:00:21 -0800 (PST)
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Kendall Bennett wrote: > > I have heard many people reference the fact that the although the Linux > Kernel is under the GNU GPL license, that the code is licensed with an > exception clause that says binary loadable modules do not have to be > under the GPL.
Nope. No such exception exists.
There's a clarification that user-space programs that use the standard system call interfaces aren't considered derived works, but even that isn't an "exception" - it's just a statement of a border of what is clearly considered a "derived work". User programs are _clearly_ not derived works of the kernel, and as such whatever the kernel license is just doesn't matter.
And in fact, when it comes to modules, the GPL issue is exactly the same. The kernel _is_ GPL. No ifs, buts and maybe's about it. As a result, anything that is a derived work has to be GPL'd. It's that simple.
Now, the "derived work" issue in copyright law is the only thing that leads to any gray areas. There are areas that are not gray at all: user space is clearly not a derived work, while kernel patches clearly _are_ derived works.
But one gray area in particular is something like a driver that was originally written for another operating system (ie clearly not a derived work of Linux in origin). At exactly what point does it become a derived work of the kernel (and thus fall under the GPL)?
THAT is a gray area, and _that_ is the area where I personally believe that some modules may be considered to not be derived works simply because they weren't designed for Linux and don't depend on any special Linux behaviour.
Basically: - anything that was written with Linux in mind (whether it then _also_ works on other operating systems or not) is clearly partially a derived work. - anything that has knowledge of and plays with fundamental internal Linux behaviour is clearly a derived work. If you need to muck around with core code, you're derived, no question about it.
Historically, there's been things like the original Andrew filesystem module: a standard filesystem that really wasn't written for Linux in the first place, and just implements a UNIX filesystem. Is that derived just because it got ported to Linux that had a reasonably similar VFS interface to what other UNIXes did? Personally, I didn't feel that I could make that judgment call. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but it clearly is a gray area.
Personally, I think that case wasn't a derived work, and I was willing to tell the AFS guys so.
Does that mean that any kernel module is automatically not a derived work? HELL NO! It has nothing to do with modules per se, except that non-modules clearly are derived works (if they are so central to the kenrel that you can't load them as a module, they are clearly derived works just by virtue of being very intimate - and because the GPL expressly mentions linking).
So being a module is not a sign of not being a derived work. It's just one sign that _maybe_ it might have other arguments for why it isn't derived.
This is just a long line that I have to include because apparently my characters per line is too low, I would use the space to tell a crap joke but that would be a waste of time. God the line length is still too low, this is really dull. Am I there yet? Apparently not, I could really fall out with slashcode over this.
No shit! FYI, it's libel not liable and defamation is an umbrella term covering both libel and slander.
Copy/pasting from the first Google result you find is not exactly reliable, if you'd Googled further you'd have found that litigation privilege does not extend to malicious prosecution (look it up).
I'm happy for NASA to be getting some good news for a change.
They're just setting themselves up for the future. As soon as the budget starts to look like being cut they'll announce that they found WMDs on Mars and Dubya will throw a couple of trillion extra deficit dollars there way.
Easter special, guaranteed high quality flamebait!
So....would the Linux kernel 2.6.x be extremely responsivle to user input, no matter what else is going on?
I can only speak from personal experience but I find KDE 3.2.1 + Kernel 2.6.5 pretty hard to slow down. Even with a large emerge going on in the background (processor at 100%) and XMMS doing it's thing (along with the usual 20 zillion apps open) I still find my desktop as responsive as when the processor is idling. Things slow a little if it starts paging to disk but with 512MB RAM that doesn't happen often.
You are one of only two or three professions who have the clout-if unionized-to shut the country down business-wise, a *pretty_dang_ snazzy* bargaining chip. And there ain't didlly squat uncle sam or any coalition of corporate bosses could do about it, because YOU CONTROL ALL THE STUFF AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW.
Heinlein's "The roads must roll" spring to mind here. You should read it some time.
Most of the slashdot monkeys are nowhere near being a geek, they don't even know enough about linux.
Me and my Vic 20, Amstrad CPC464, and Acorn Electron were best of friends way before Linus hit the scene. Linux knowledge does not a geek make, it just happens to be something a lot of us have in common.
One particular security site using Mambo a fairly regular slashdotting in it's stride. The whole DevShed network is running on Mambo as well (somewhat customised though).
Before you trash the guy I suggest you check both his listed homepage and his accepted article summary. He's already had reviews of BSD and Star Office on Slashdot.
This is why the GPL is so beautiful, it's one of the most elegant hacks ever made.
Eben Moglen put it this way when he spoke at Harvard a while back...
Read the whole speach at Groklaw.
You should also mention that the patch fucked SMP machines and possibly (depends how lucky you are) any NT machine with a partition over 7.8GB. When testing reveals that the patch is borked you do NOT install it.
Maybe you should learn how the US system works. Most serving staff are paid minimum wage but are assessed taxes based on an expectation of how much they will receive in tips which is in turn based on their total sales. The way this generally pans out is that their wage pays the tax bill and the tips are what they live on. If you don't tip then they served you for free.
In reality, calling it a tip is wrong. It's a service charge but as a courtesy to you the consumer it is left to you to decide how much the service was worth. 20% is about right for good service (I'm a former bar manageress so my definition of 'good' is 'everything spot on') with exceptional service being rewarded depending on how much it enhanced your dining experience. If you're rather dull and on a date but the waitress laughs and jokes with you and makes you appear more interesting and amusing than you really are (a highly prized skill) then isn't that worth a little extra?
Of course the converse also applies, you should pay less for poor service but only for the most appalling service should you pay nothing.
My main worry would be how they plan to survive hundreds of runs through the glass washer.
10oz chopped frozen spinach
:).
;).
4 large eggs
1/4 teaspoon crushed garlic
salt & pepper to taste
1. Beat eggs
2. Chuck the rest in and mix.
3. Bake for 15 minutes on 400F.
You won't taste the spinach (this is why frozen is better, less taste) but you will get a base that tastes omelettey (i.e. goes well with cheese and other pizza type stuff) but is not greasy and can be eaten in slices like normal pizza
You can also use an omelette as a pizza base so long as you don't mind using a knife and fork
Gantlet is an accepted altervative spelling of gauntlet (the glove) and gauntlet is an accepted alternative spelling of gantlet (the ordeal).
The original post was too pedantic and ended up being plain wrong.
Many have imitated but none have ever come even close to the addictiveness that Planetarion used to have. The vicious political arena was a large part of what made it addictive, as a lone player you were dead so you HAD to join an alliance and all of a sudden there's a whole new social thing going on around you.
:D
It's hard to believe how much you can love and despise a game at the same time
Gayle
Ex VGN High Command
*cough*Holland*cough*
Seriously, there's less sexual crime in Holland than just about any other western country.
No thanks, I rather like having some.
I'm on 56k dialup, if I update weekly then the update remains doable (I actually use -fuvD with emerge then re-emerge without -f). If I leave it a month then it turns into several days of downloading packages before starting the compile.
Gentoo on dialup means regular updates unless you want to end up in download hell.
Why not upgrade every week like most of us do?
emerge -uvD system
emerge -uvD world
etc-update
Please read your own links, 26.7% nor 33%,
No shit! FYI, it's libel not liable and defamation is an umbrella term covering both libel and slander.
Copy/pasting from the first Google result you find is not exactly reliable, if you'd Googled further you'd have found that litigation privilege does not extend to malicious prosecution (look it up).
They're just setting themselves up for the future. As soon as the budget starts to look like being cut they'll announce that they found WMDs on Mars and Dubya will throw a couple of trillion extra deficit dollars there way.
Easter special, guaranteed high quality flamebait!
I can only speak from personal experience but I find KDE 3.2.1 + Kernel 2.6.5 pretty hard to slow down. Even with a large emerge going on in the background (processor at 100%) and XMMS doing it's thing (along with the usual 20 zillion apps open) I still find my desktop as responsive as when the processor is idling. Things slow a little if it starts paging to disk but with 512MB RAM that doesn't happen often.
I disagree. More and more people are looking at the trouble caused by software patents and realising that rms was right all along.
Heinlein's "The roads must roll" spring to mind here. You should read it some time.
One thing Ron Jeremy does NOT need to do is make it look larger!
Don't blame the yanks for this one, it's all our (the British) fault.
Me and my Vic 20, Amstrad CPC464, and Acorn Electron were best of friends way before Linus hit the scene. Linux knowledge does not a geek make, it just happens to be something a lot of us have in common.
All it takes is one.