This is going to be slightly off-topic. Fair warning, mods.
You're one of the only active Democrats in power which I don't desperately want to punch in the throat
1. That's because he's actually a Republican, and he's going to be replaced this year by the fed-up netroots. Lieberman was one reason Gore failed to get enough votes to overcome the fraud in 2000. And what power? The Republicans control congress, the judiciary, and the executive branch. What power do Democrats have at all?
2. Fear is what motivates wingnuts. You also like Lieberman because, like yourself, he's a coward. He's afraid of the terrorists, and so, like the Republicans who control the Congress at the moment, he's willing to give away our civil rights to the terrorists in exchange for some perception -- any perception, however false -- of safety. This is really important to understand, everyone. The wingnuts are AFRAID. The Shrub administration runs on fear.
A successful Democratic candidate in 2008 will be one who stands up and says "we are the heirs of Patrick Henry; we will never stand down in the face of a threat to our domestic tranquility. To the terrorists, I say: we will find you and root you out; we will never submit to your tyranny-by-proxy and to your threats. We will not surrender our civil rights."
3. Why do Republicans always resort to violence as the first response to anything? If Karl Rove was a Democrat, some demented wingnut such as yourself would have long since assassinated him. Bush's approval rating is now far below Clinton's approval rating at any time during the Clinton presidency, and yet you don't see anyone firing bullets at the white house.
If there's anyone you should want to "punch in the throat," it should be Osama bin Laden. Where's your enthusiasm for that, where's your passion for finding and killing the real enemies of the state? Why is it all aimlessly pointed at harmless centrist targets like Hillary? Why not Laura Bush, who actually did kill someone (accidentally, mind you, according to the police record)?
4. I don't understand why Hillary sends all you wingnuts into incoherent rage. Discounting the tinfoil hat fairytales Limbaugh spews, she's a great match for the right wing: she has your sense of professional ethics and morality. Loves to pander to the rich and powerful. Loves to be right-wing. Will give away civil rights at the drop of a hat. Loves Iraq as a US colony. About the only thing you shouldn't like about her is her stand on healthcare, but she's flexible like her husband, so I don't think you have anything to worry about. She's hardly the moral beacon that this country will really need after eight years of the corrosive Shrub and his Halliburton-fellating cronies.
Here's the thing -- if you've found the solution to the very real problems that occurred at Cherynobyl and Three Mile Island, be it pebble-bead reactors or anything else, then you need to say "we fixed the problems" -- not "the problems never existed." You're not believed because people have seen -- indeed, lived through -- what appears to be valid evidence to the contrary.
And. while you're at it, explain what happens to the spent fuel, and how that's solved. ISTR reading that pebble-bead proponents have a solution for this, so perhasp that should be publicized.
Re:Right and left are false dichotomies
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Sing it, brother. Big-L libertarians are very bad students of history.
Parent poster is correct. In fact, the Etymotics were *intentionally designed* to make hearing loss less likely. That was their original claim to fame before the iPod existed.
And you liberals had better actually pass a bill this time because if you leave it to the courts like you did with abortion you will really get burned because of the shift in the Supremes. So lets actually debate it and come to a political decision we might all be able to live with this time.
Preparing for some doomsday scenario involving an invasion of giant cloned mice-men is hardly at the top of the list of liberal legislative priorities.
The 'liberals'/pre-1980 moderates already have their hands full attempting to save the remains of the Consitution from the wreckage of the rabid religious fundies of the Shrub dynasty, not to mention staving off a shrill and increasingly hostile-to-common-sense corporate consolidated media borg.
So, since you care so much about it, and are oh-so-medically-ethical, maybe you'd like to take charge of the effort to define that particular line. How about it?
Granted, the majority of those in the liberal arts are, well, liberal, but I've found many (if not most) students in science and engineering tend to be libertarian. I'm wondering what that tells us about the divide between those who pontificate about the future compared to those who actually create it.
Hmmm... I'm wondering which set of students you think is actually creating the future. My observation has been that people in both arts and sciences, including a number who cross over by way of double majors (English and Computer Science, or Philosophy and Comp.Sci, for example, are not unheard of), actually "create the future."
I mean, what it tells me is that the engineering students prefer simple black and white on/off to grayscale, but that's not news, is it? It's more or less the influence of uncareful reading of The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress. Hell, I was very briefly libertarian. It's attractive because it's a simple philosophy. But, like socialism or Lisp, the ideals are neat, too bad it doesn't work on humans.
Thing is, most of those libertarian hard scientists become liberals or conservatives when they eventually get girlfriends and reproduce, and see the value in cooperating with other humans rather than hiding out in their parent's basements alone.
'Cause, you know one thing that libertarianism creates? Legalized Enron. Another thing? Lake New Orleans.
I'm missing out on mod points on this discussion to point this out:
IOKit is teh suck.
I write complex IOKit drivers for a living. It sucks. Ass. Hard. Rocks. It's clearly an attempt by Objective-C partisans to make C++ work like Objective-C. I don't have a problem with that; I like Objective-C. I like C++. But IOKit C++ is a hopeless purgatory between the two, with some bad attributes of each and very little of the good of either.
I would add that the only reason Darwin is open source appears to be that Apple doesn't want to pay anyone to write useful driver documentation.
I would rather program in one of:
Objective-C (ala NeXT's DriverKit, the linguistically superior predecessor of IOKit)
real C++ with a real dynamic linker (ala Taligent OS)
You can if there is _other_ free. Dashboard. Maybe Google Widgets in the future, if Google sees value in it. Probably Microsoft Widgets in the future.
Frankly, I think Yahoo just blew a big wad of cash. Microsoft will almost certainly follow Apple's lead and do their own widget architecture, and at that point it makes zero sense to maintain your own widget engine for either platform. Just hook into the platform-native services and write your own widgets. There is value in backwards compatibility with old OS's, but it diminishes rapidly with time.
While I don't know specifically what CR was doing at the time, I can tell you that frequently different standards of quality control are applied rebadged merchandise. For example, when Sears puts their name ('Kenmore') on appliacnes, they want a certain level of quality -- which may be more or less than the manufacturer would normally turn out, depending on the amount of money they want to spend.
Also, reliability reports in CR are and always have been based on quality surveys sent out to (all) subscribers of the magazine.
I think CR gets a bad rap just because they're relatively incompetent at rating computers and electronics.Their automotive coverage has vastly improved in recent years, and they nail the reliability of cars and trucks. And they are the standard benchmark for home appliance reviews. Ultimately, though, CR is just one tool, and can cover only so many products even within one class of appliances. If you're making a major purchase, you should use many tools to find information about it. And you definitely shouldn't discount CR as one of those tools (unless you're buying electronics...).
Contrary to what a lot of mindless posters think, the transition is a lot of work and will be very difficult for many companies.
Actually, no. It means Adobe is going to do their usual arrogant foot-dragging until they can't possibly wait any longer. They're worse than Apple in many ways.
Re:Remember NeXT and Apple?
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When Apple acquired NeXT, their top three levels of management were pretty much replaced with NeXT employees
I was there at the time. It's more like Apple's top twenty levels of management were replaced with one or two levels of NeXT employees. It's not so much a tribute to the rank and file NeXTies as it is a tribute to laserlike, singular focus on the part of the new executive management.
If I could get a someone to come in front of my class and argue that the sun goes around the earth, I think that would be a great opportunity for my students
Because, you know, there's nothing more useful they could be doing with their lives than playacting to years old myths without an audience.
No, it's not the last five years. It's the last twenty. The press has gotten gradually worse, more corrupt and more right-wing over time. There was only one legit Clinton scandal, Monica. Whitewater was made up by the wingnuts:
Kenneth Starr's successor, Robert Ray, released a report in September of 2000 that stated "This office determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that either President or Mrs. Clinton knowingly participated in any criminal conduct." Ray's report effectively ended the Whitewater investigation.
I'm giving up mod points to note that JordanL is right. The BluRay list includes Apple, Dell, and HP, so it's a given that BluRay will have a foothold on the desktop. Nearly every consumer electronics manufacturer is on the list.
Apple Computer, Inc. Dell Inc. Hewlett Packard Company
Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. (Panasonic) Pioneer Corporation Hitachi, Ltd. LG Electronics Inc. Royal Philips Electronics (Philips/Magnavox) Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. Sharp Corporation Sony Corporation Thomson Multimedia (RCA) Mitsubishi Electric Corporation
Studios: Twentieth Century Fox Walt Disney Pictures Sony Corporation
Blank media manufacturers: TDK Corporation (sometimes also licenses players from others)
This doesn't mean it's a free ride for BluRay, but the BluRay camp would have to fuck up pretty badly to lose. With few exceptions, the HD-DVD list is composed of media manufacturers, which makes sense, they directly have the most to lose with BluRay.
I have personal experience at companies which use 4:1 or 5:1 retail to BOM, in fact. And these aren't necessarily high-end products we're talking about, and they're not crap, either.
I call extreme bullshit FUD. I used to live near Seattle, and would often go into town and walk around the Seattle Center area (where the monorail lives). The noise was nothing. Every train I've ever heard was much noisier, from the clickety-clack of the wheels on the tracks to the diesel horn that accompanied crossing a RR crossing...
You misspelled executive management. Apple had plenty of fine programming talent who would have been happy to execute on a strategy. Any strategy.
It may surprise you to learn that many programmers at Apple -- including key members of the Cocoa team, the Carbon team, and the IOKit team -- worked on Copland. Difference between Copland and Mac OS X? Executive management. Define a goal and stick to it. Q.E.D.
In fact, a non-trivial amount of code and concepts from Copland is recycled in Mac OS X (excluding Classic for the purpose of this discussion;) ). A lot of the Carbon toolbox implementation comes from Copland (most of it via Mac OS 8.5). Much of the Darwin IOKit design (but _not_ the implementation) is derived from Copland's NuKernel driver architecture, and some small parts of IOKit are derived from Pink/Taligent designs (but not the implementation).
We've developed these Alpha/Beta/Master phases after decades of experience developing and rolling out software.
And they've worked so well for us, too. I mean, our desktop software today is much more reliable than the batch processing software run on mainframes thirty years ago, isn't it? No? Oh.
The Alpha/Beta disctinction was mostly arbitrary. Every large project that ever used them, from Apple's Mac system software team to tiny shareware developers, has abandoned them and moved to a progressive build numbering scheme.
Actually, that's how the world works when you don't have a neofascist cabal controlling your government. Chinese-style "communism" has its bad points as well, of course, but they clearly made broadband access a priority.
Too bad about that whole torturing and killing dissidents thing.
Oh, wait, we do that too. Never mind. (Oh, sorry, I forgot -- we only do it to towelheads. That makes it so much better).
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oops. "civil rights" should be "civil liberties" in the Patrick Henry paragraph.
This is going to be slightly off-topic. Fair warning, mods.
You're one of the only active Democrats in power which I don't desperately want to punch in the throat
1. That's because he's actually a Republican, and he's going to be replaced this year by the fed-up netroots. Lieberman was one reason Gore failed to get enough votes to overcome the fraud in 2000. And what power? The Republicans control congress, the judiciary, and the executive branch. What power do Democrats have at all?
2. Fear is what motivates wingnuts. You also like Lieberman because, like yourself, he's a coward. He's afraid of the terrorists, and so, like the Republicans who control the Congress at the moment, he's willing to give away our civil rights to the terrorists in exchange for some perception -- any perception, however false -- of safety. This is really important to understand, everyone. The wingnuts are AFRAID. The Shrub administration runs on fear.
A successful Democratic candidate in 2008 will be one who stands up and says "we are the heirs of Patrick Henry; we will never stand down in the face of a threat to our domestic tranquility. To the terrorists, I say: we will find you and root you out; we will never submit to your tyranny-by-proxy and to your threats. We will not surrender our civil rights."
3. Why do Republicans always resort to violence as the first response to anything? If Karl Rove was a Democrat, some demented wingnut such as yourself would have long since assassinated him. Bush's approval rating is now far below Clinton's approval rating at any time during the Clinton presidency, and yet you don't see anyone firing bullets at the white house.
If there's anyone you should want to "punch in the throat," it should be Osama bin Laden. Where's your enthusiasm for that, where's your passion for finding and killing the real enemies of the state? Why is it all aimlessly pointed at harmless centrist targets like Hillary? Why not Laura Bush, who actually did kill someone (accidentally, mind you, according to the police record)?
4. I don't understand why Hillary sends all you wingnuts into incoherent rage. Discounting the tinfoil hat fairytales Limbaugh spews, she's a great match for the right wing: she has your sense of professional ethics and morality. Loves to pander to the rich and powerful. Loves to be right-wing. Will give away civil rights at the drop of a hat. Loves Iraq as a US colony. About the only thing you shouldn't like about her is her stand on healthcare, but she's flexible like her husband, so I don't think you have anything to worry about. She's hardly the moral beacon that this country will really need after eight years of the corrosive Shrub and his Halliburton-fellating cronies.
Here's the thing -- if you've found the solution to the very real problems that occurred at Cherynobyl and Three Mile Island, be it pebble-bead reactors or anything else, then you need to say "we fixed the problems" -- not "the problems never existed." You're not believed because people have seen -- indeed, lived through -- what appears to be valid evidence to the contrary.
And. while you're at it, explain what happens to the spent fuel, and how that's solved. ISTR reading that pebble-bead proponents have a solution for this, so perhasp that should be publicized.
Sing it, brother. Big-L libertarians are very bad students of history.
oh, to have mod points today...
Parent poster is correct. In fact, the Etymotics were *intentionally designed* to make hearing loss less likely. That was their original claim to fame before the iPod existed.
And you liberals had better actually pass a bill this time because if you leave it to the courts like you did with abortion you will really get burned because of the shift in the Supremes. So lets actually debate it and come to a political decision we might all be able to live with this time.
Preparing for some doomsday scenario involving an invasion of giant cloned mice-men is hardly at the top of the list of liberal legislative priorities.
The 'liberals'/pre-1980 moderates already have their hands full attempting to save the remains of the Consitution from the wreckage of the rabid religious fundies of the Shrub dynasty, not to mention staving off a shrill and increasingly hostile-to-common-sense corporate consolidated media borg.
So, since you care so much about it, and are oh-so-medically-ethical, maybe you'd like to take charge of the effort to define that particular line. How about it?
Granted, the majority of those in the liberal arts are, well, liberal, but I've found many (if not most) students in science and engineering tend to be libertarian. I'm wondering what that tells us about the divide between those who pontificate about the future compared to those who actually create it.
Hmmm... I'm wondering which set of students you think is actually creating the future. My observation has been that people in both arts and sciences, including a number who cross over by way of double majors (English and Computer Science, or Philosophy and Comp.Sci, for example, are not unheard of), actually "create the future."
I mean, what it tells me is that the engineering students prefer simple black and white on/off to grayscale, but that's not news, is it? It's more or less the influence of uncareful reading of The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress. Hell, I was very briefly libertarian. It's attractive because it's a simple philosophy. But, like socialism or Lisp, the ideals are neat, too bad it doesn't work on humans.
Thing is, most of those libertarian hard scientists become liberals or conservatives when they eventually get girlfriends and reproduce, and see the value in cooperating with other humans rather than hiding out in their parent's basements alone.
'Cause, you know one thing that libertarianism creates? Legalized Enron.
Another thing? Lake New Orleans.
IOKit is teh suck.
I write complex IOKit drivers for a living. It sucks. Ass. Hard. Rocks. It's clearly an attempt by Objective-C partisans to make C++ work like Objective-C. I don't have a problem with that; I like Objective-C. I like C++. But IOKit C++ is a hopeless purgatory between the two, with some bad attributes of each and very little of the good of either.
I would add that the only reason Darwin is open source appears to be that Apple doesn't want to pay anyone to write useful driver documentation.
I would rather program in one of:
see the other replies for why
You can't argue with free though.
You can if there is _other_ free. Dashboard. Maybe Google Widgets in the future, if Google sees value in it. Probably Microsoft Widgets in the future.
Frankly, I think Yahoo just blew a big wad of cash. Microsoft will almost certainly follow Apple's lead and do their own widget architecture, and at that point it makes zero sense to maintain your own widget engine for either platform. Just hook into the platform-native services and write your own widgets. There is value in backwards compatibility with old OS's, but it diminishes rapidly with time.
While I don't know specifically what CR was doing at the time, I can tell you that frequently different standards of quality control are applied rebadged merchandise. For example, when Sears puts their name ('Kenmore') on appliacnes, they want a certain level of quality -- which may be more or less than the manufacturer would normally turn out, depending on the amount of money they want to spend.
Also, reliability reports in CR are and always have been based on quality surveys sent out to (all) subscribers of the magazine.
I think CR gets a bad rap just because they're relatively incompetent at rating computers and electronics.Their automotive coverage has vastly improved in recent years, and they nail the reliability of cars and trucks. And they are the standard benchmark for home appliance reviews. Ultimately, though, CR is just one tool, and can cover only so many products even within one class of appliances. If you're making a major purchase, you should use many tools to find information about it. And you definitely shouldn't discount CR as one of those tools (unless you're buying electronics...).
Hmm... Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and even George W. Bush fit that profile to a T. I wonder if Jack Thompson is a Republican.
e althOfGWBush.htm
See also http://members.cruzio.com/~zdino/writings/mentalH
I guess that we may call you a liberal, then?
No, you just can't call him a reactionary, facist wingnut.
"Moderate" or "pays attention in class" will describe him nicely.
Contrary to what a lot of mindless posters think, the transition is a lot of work and will be very difficult for many companies.
Actually, no. It means Adobe is going to do their usual arrogant foot-dragging until they can't possibly wait any longer. They're worse than Apple in many ways.
When Apple acquired NeXT, their top three levels of management were pretty much replaced with NeXT employees
I was there at the time. It's more like Apple's top twenty levels of management were replaced with one or two levels of NeXT employees. It's not so much a tribute to the rank and file NeXTies as it is a tribute to laserlike, singular focus on the part of the new executive management.
(FWIW. Yes, this is offtopic.)
If I could get a someone to come in front of my class and argue that the sun goes around the earth, I think that would be a great opportunity for my students
Because, you know, there's nothing more useful they could be doing with their lives than playacting to years old myths without an audience.
More on the Wingnuts and the media:
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/the_gops_wingnut
http://www.fair.org/index.php
I'm giving up mod points to note that JordanL is right. The BluRay list includes Apple, Dell, and HP, so it's a given that BluRay will have a foothold on the desktop. Nearly every consumer electronics manufacturer is on the list.
Apple Computer, Inc.
Dell Inc.
Hewlett Packard Company
Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. (Panasonic)
Pioneer Corporation
Hitachi, Ltd.
LG Electronics Inc.
Royal Philips Electronics (Philips/Magnavox)
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.
Sharp Corporation
Sony Corporation
Thomson Multimedia (RCA)
Mitsubishi Electric Corporation
Studios:
Twentieth Century Fox
Walt Disney Pictures
Sony Corporation
Blank media manufacturers:
TDK Corporation (sometimes also licenses players from others)
This doesn't mean it's a free ride for BluRay, but the BluRay camp would have to fuck up pretty badly to lose. With few exceptions, the HD-DVD list is composed of media manufacturers, which makes sense, they directly have the most to lose with BluRay.
I have personal experience at companies which use 4:1 or 5:1 retail to BOM, in fact. And these aren't necessarily high-end products we're talking about, and they're not crap, either.
I call extreme bullshit FUD. I used to live near Seattle, and would often go into town and walk around the Seattle Center area (where the monorail lives). The noise was nothing. Every train I've ever heard was much noisier, from the clickety-clack of the wheels on the tracks to the diesel horn that accompanied crossing a RR crossing...
Apple's own systems programming staff
;) ). A lot of the Carbon toolbox implementation comes from Copland (most of it via Mac OS 8.5). Much of the Darwin IOKit design (but _not_ the implementation) is derived from Copland's NuKernel driver architecture, and some small parts of IOKit are derived from Pink/Taligent designs (but not the implementation).
You misspelled executive management. Apple had plenty of fine programming talent who would have been happy to execute on a strategy. Any strategy.
It may surprise you to learn that many programmers at Apple -- including key members of the Cocoa team, the Carbon team, and the IOKit team -- worked on Copland. Difference between Copland and Mac OS X? Executive management. Define a goal and stick to it. Q.E.D.
In fact, a non-trivial amount of code and concepts from Copland is recycled in Mac OS X (excluding Classic for the purpose of this discussion
Or is someone just trying to stir up a liberal/conservative debate?
Of course someone is. The 'controversial' link in the article text is to a well-known Nazi/white power bottom-feeder Bush-worshipping site.
We've developed these Alpha/Beta/Master phases after decades of experience developing and rolling out software.
And they've worked so well for us, too. I mean, our desktop software today is much more reliable than the batch processing software run on mainframes thirty years ago, isn't it? No? Oh.
The Alpha/Beta disctinction was mostly arbitrary. Every large project that ever used them, from Apple's Mac system software team to tiny shareware developers, has abandoned them and moved to a progressive build numbering scheme.
Actually, that's how the world works when you don't have a neofascist cabal controlling your government. Chinese-style "communism" has its bad points as well, of course, but they clearly made broadband access a priority.
Too bad about that whole torturing and killing dissidents thing.
Oh, wait, we do that too. Never mind. (Oh, sorry, I forgot -- we only do it to towelheads. That makes it so much better).