Maybe the real problem here is that when it comes to national security, it isn't really Republicans versus Democrats, but rather Hawks versus Doves.
Not much of a contest. Even Bernie Sanders said he would have continued the drone murder program, and has voted to support Israel when they commence their biannual slaughter of a few thousand Palestinians.
Only Trump diehard loyalists, and AC trolls, believe there was no collusion.
Only people as stupid as anti-vaxxers and birthers would say such a thing without evidence. Speaking of stupid, have you thought about this narrative for two seconds? Putin was supposedly crafty to know, years in a advance, that Trump could be elected president of the United States - but dumb enough to collude with someone as dumb as Trump to do so.
Which means the FBI/CIA/NSA would have known as well. Which means President Hillary - who campaigned on shooting down Russian jets in Syria - would have known it as well. You do remember it was her election to lose, right up until she selected a right-wing pro-life running mate and didn't bother to campaign in the Rust Belt states that handed Trump the White House?
An X-Ray of a Russiagaters skull will show 10 pounds of bullshit crammed into a 3 pound cranium.
American Exceptionalist Swiftboating. It's not Russia that has illegally invaded more than half a dozen nations over the last 15 years, had a kidnapping & torture program, allows its military to round up citizens on its own soil without a trial, and wants to spy on the communications of every person on the planet, including allied heads of state.
Right, we're going to get the facts about Hillary from a Fox news site. As car as I can tell all she's guilty of is breaking IT department rules. Pretty much everyone on Slashdot should be in prison in that case.
Then you're willfully obtuse and willfully ignorant. Anyone else would be serving many, many decades in prison for mishandling classified evidence and then obstruction of justice in destroying the evidence. Hillary had no more authorization to store the far more serious and larger quantities of classified information on her unsecured email server than Kristian Saucier had authorization to store classified information on his unauthorized, unsecured cell phone.
As another poster said, you don't even have that. What you do have is the same amount of evidence that the Birthers had that Obama's birth certificate was faked so he could run for the presidency. Assertions are not evidence - just ask the Birthers.
Uhm, there is a video interview (and several tweets) where the president admits to firing Comey to get rid of the investigation.
The investigation is bullshit. If it wasn't, the first thing Mueller would have done would have been to subpoena the DNC servers for a proper FBI investigation. You know, the allegedly hacked DNC servers that make up the cornerstone of the entire Russiagate narrative.
You don't commit obstruction of justice that blatantly if you aren't guilty.
Deranged witch hunts aren't justice. Come crawling back when Ken Starr, I mean Mueller, finally hangs up his hat without a single conviction related to what he was hired to do: show evidence of Russia meddling in the election and colluding with Trump to do so.
Bernie the communist had no chance why do you think Hillary was the candidate?
Every democrat since at least the 30's has been smeared as a communist, but that hasn't prevented them from winning. Which means your talking point is crap.
It was aimed to fuel division and increase hostility by producing material aimed at both left and right to convince them that the opposing faction are not merely in disagreement, but are a dangerous and evil force that must be fought and exterminated, and that only traitors seek compromise.
To do.......what? Of all the completely evidence-free conspiracy theories making up Russiagate, this is one of the dumber ones. Not to mention insulting - does anyone actually think that minorities only became aware that they live in a racist police state after seeing a tweet?
Cool story, bro. How would you say that matches up to the CIA plan to place bombs in Miami and blow up planes as a false flag operation to blame on Cuba? Now, since Western Exceptionalists are predictable, whatabboutery is a term you came up with to use whenever it's pointed out that not only does your shit stink, it stinks works.
Russiagate is bullshit. Always has been, always will be. When Russiagaters are confronted with the fact that they are as full of shit as anti-vaxxers, chem trailers and birthers, they engage in petulant hand waving rather than deal with the fact they've bought into a conspiracy so insane you'd have Alex Jones embarrassed to be in the same room as you.
But Hillary!
Yes, in a classic case of Swiftboating, everything Hillbots are baselessly accusing Trump of doing, their candidate actually did. Rigged an election? Check, the Democratic primary. Not just colluded with foreign intelligence for dirt against a general election opponent, but paid for it? Check! Corrupt deal with Russian interests? Check! Literally, to Bill Clinton from people pushing the uranium deal.
Witch Hunts!
Yeah, slick, its a witch hunt. An investigation that starts with a single issue but the prosecutor uses it as a special warrant to look for any evidence of any wrongdoing, anywhere....Dembots were pretty pissed in the 90's when it was Ken Starr and Whitewater.
No evidence!
Because Russiagaters have just as much evidence to back up their bullshit as do the anti-vaxxers, birthers and chem trailers.
Pro-tip: assertions and speculation are not evidence. Just ask anti-vaxxers, birthers and chem trailers.
my dudes read the fricking news
You first, dipshit. Then come back with the evidence.
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Vi.
Dense.
so far, four people connected to the trump campaign, including its chairman, are under indictment
For issues that have nothing whatsoever to do with Russiagate. Which is why Russiagaters are as pathetic as anti-vaxxing chem trailing birthers.
It's almost as if the left is using the time honoured tactic of accusing the opposition of doing exactly what you are doing.
...that Democrats are just as much of a crazy right-wing party as the GOP. In fact, most of the crazy freakshow stuff - like Obama ending habeas corpus - have come from Dems, not R's.
It's almost as if right-wing Democrats are using the time honoured tactic of accusing the opposition of doing exactly what you are doing.
FTFY. And of course its Swiftboating - everything Hillbots have been accusing Trump of doing, Hillary was actually guilty of. From rigging a (primary) election to not just colluding with but paying for foreign intelligence agents for dirt on a general election opponent.
There's only one problem with that. Apple has already demonstrated that when they add a customer-hostile change to their lineup, other manufacturers will follow suit. eg: Fixed batteries, no headphone jack, etc.
More like: all these problems aren't actually problems unless Apple is involved, due to the Hatorade Distortion Field.
and thus Trump is totally innocent of any collusion with the Russians
You're being sarcastic, but the fact that many of the Dems that have been screaming the loudest that Trump is a Putin Puppet just voted to give him god-like surveillance powers. Which means they either want Putin to be able to spy on Americans, or they've been completely and utterly full of shit on Russiagate from the beginning.
Teenagers in Australia need not be paid the full minimum wage.
The vast majority of workers are not teenagers.
Ergo, Australian fast food restaurants largely employ teenagers.
Did you read your own link? The closest it comes to such a thing is "And if you've ever wondered why so many people in fast-food outlets are under 18, now you know: it's a cost-cutting measure."
This tired meme has been debunked for a long time.
Everyone shoots to kill. Shooting to wound or at the other guy's gun is a Hollywood fantasy.
Know what else is a Hollywood fantasy? Getting off a hip shot, at range, at armored targets in cover. But this guy didn't have a gun. I don't know about these cops, but I learned to always be sure of what I was shooting at when I took basic firearms safety.
When I was eight. And this man wasn't carrying anything, much less something that looked like a gun.
Shields and armor are only resistant, not bullet proof
Ballistic shieldsare bullet proof. If the man came out with a.50 caliber rifle at the ready position it might have been a different story, but that wasn't the case.
Really?? What are you 12 years old? Cops make an average of $52k/year, the average software engineer makes $92k. How much risk does your job entail? They sure as hell do not get paid commensurate with the risk that they put themselves in.
Are you? Being a cop isn't even in the top ten of the most dangerous jobs in the United States. Loggers, fishermen, roofers, garbage men, truckers, taxi drivers, pilots and ag workers all have it harder than cops do. And we don't allow any of those people to literally beat your brains out in the street for no reason, with impunity. Take out car accidents - which don't have anything to do with cops getting their guns off - and they aren't even in the top 20.
Or you could pull you head out of your authoritarian ass. A prosecutor hauls you in for a crime you didn't commit, and says if you don't take the plea deal he's going to send you to prison for decades. You will absolutely lose your job, your house, and custody of your kids. You really going to reject that plea deal, slick?
Because Swartz and his lawyers kept rejecting the plea offers. He was adamant not to serve any time in jail, and the federal prosecutor was not going to agree to that. The law determines the jail time and fines for a particular crime, so a prosecutor has every right to avail himself what the law allows him to do to get a conviction of the guilty and serve justice.
Because the worst Swartz was guilty of was trespassing. A six month sentence plus a felony record that would have saddled him for life was completely asinine and unjustifiable. Next question?
It's been a while, but IIRC lots of her supporters don't really know what a war crime is.
Uh huh. And by that same token, can you name the ones she did reveal without searching?
War is an ugly business, and there's a lot of horrible things that aren't war crimes, but rather are what war demands.
Easy for you to say. Wonder if you'd have the same cavalier attitude, though, if it was your wedding that was drone bombed, then the funeral, then a double-tap on any first responders trying to rescue survivors. And then the same forces spent over an hour bombing the local hospital, just in case.
it mandated that 80% of insurance company's outlays go to care
Which is what they were spending already. And if you've heard of Hollywood Accounting, there's lots of creative ways to dress up the numbers. So, back to the ACA having no cost controls.
Also, I addressed the reason why Obama didn't get more in my original comment:
A debunked talking point, with citations provided. Obama killed the public option long before any Republican or Bush Dog could have voted against it. And along with a real jobs plan, this would have been the easiest political campaign in history: "I want to bring you affordable health care but Rep XYZ SAYS NO!"
The vast majority of experts have been wrong about just about everything through out history. Blindly following "experts" is about as stupid thing as anyone can do.
Stupid talking point. You don't find spontaneous generation in med textbooks because the idea was replaced with a better one. When climate change denialists have some superior science, call us. Until then you're as big a tool as anti-vaxxers, who also refuse to listen to "experts", because reasons.
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Not much of a contest. Even Bernie Sanders said he would have continued the drone murder program, and has voted to support Israel when they commence their biannual slaughter of a few thousand Palestinians.
Upping the levels of McCarthyism doesn't not evidence make.
Only people as stupid as anti-vaxxers and birthers would say such a thing without evidence. Speaking of stupid, have you thought about this narrative for two seconds? Putin was supposedly crafty to know, years in a advance, that Trump could be elected president of the United States - but dumb enough to collude with someone as dumb as Trump to do so.
Which means the FBI/CIA/NSA would have known as well. Which means President Hillary - who campaigned on shooting down Russian jets in Syria - would have known it as well. You do remember it was her election to lose, right up until she selected a right-wing pro-life running mate and didn't bother to campaign in the Rust Belt states that handed Trump the White House?
An X-Ray of a Russiagaters skull will show 10 pounds of bullshit crammed into a 3 pound cranium.
American Exceptionalist Swiftboating. It's not Russia that has illegally invaded more than half a dozen nations over the last 15 years, had a kidnapping & torture program, allows its military to round up citizens on its own soil without a trial, and wants to spy on the communications of every person on the planet, including allied heads of state.
Then you're willfully obtuse and willfully ignorant. Anyone else would be serving many, many decades in prison for mishandling classified evidence and then obstruction of justice in destroying the evidence. Hillary had no more authorization to store the far more serious and larger quantities of classified information on her unsecured email server than Kristian Saucier had authorization to store classified information on his unauthorized, unsecured cell phone.
As another poster said, you don't even have that. What you do have is the same amount of evidence that the Birthers had that Obama's birth certificate was faked so he could run for the presidency. Assertions are not evidence - just ask the Birthers.
The investigation is bullshit. If it wasn't, the first thing Mueller would have done would have been to subpoena the DNC servers for a proper FBI investigation. You know, the allegedly hacked DNC servers that make up the cornerstone of the entire Russiagate narrative.
Deranged witch hunts aren't justice. Come crawling back when Ken Starr, I mean Mueller, finally hangs up his hat without a single conviction related to what he was hired to do: show evidence of Russia meddling in the election and colluding with Trump to do so.
Every democrat since at least the 30's has been smeared as a communist, but that hasn't prevented them from winning. Which means your talking point is crap.
Multiply one unit of bullshit by a thousand and what do you have?
To do.......what? Of all the completely evidence-free conspiracy theories making up Russiagate, this is one of the dumber ones. Not to mention insulting - does anyone actually think that minorities only became aware that they live in a racist police state after seeing a tweet?
Cool story, bro. How would you say that matches up to the CIA plan to place bombs in Miami and blow up planes as a false flag operation to blame on Cuba? Now, since Western Exceptionalists are predictable, whatabboutery is a term you came up with to use whenever it's pointed out that not only does your shit stink, it stinks works.
Don't throw stones in a glass house.
Russiagate is bullshit. Always has been, always will be. When Russiagaters are confronted with the fact that they are as full of shit as anti-vaxxers, chem trailers and birthers, they engage in petulant hand waving rather than deal with the fact they've bought into a conspiracy so insane you'd have Alex Jones embarrassed to be in the same room as you.
Yes, in a classic case of Swiftboating, everything Hillbots are baselessly accusing Trump of doing, their candidate actually did. Rigged an election? Check, the Democratic primary. Not just colluded with foreign intelligence for dirt against a general election opponent, but paid for it? Check! Corrupt deal with Russian interests? Check! Literally, to Bill Clinton from people pushing the uranium deal.
Yeah, slick, its a witch hunt. An investigation that starts with a single issue but the prosecutor uses it as a special warrant to look for any evidence of any wrongdoing, anywhere....Dembots were pretty pissed in the 90's when it was Ken Starr and Whitewater.
Because Russiagaters have just as much evidence to back up their bullshit as do the anti-vaxxers, birthers and chem trailers.
Pro-tip: assertions and speculation are not evidence. Just ask anti-vaxxers, birthers and chem trailers.
You first, dipshit. Then come back with the evidence.
Eh.
Vi.
Dense.
For issues that have nothing whatsoever to do with Russiagate. Which is why Russiagaters are as pathetic as anti-vaxxing chem trailing birthers.
Like the $5000 on Facebook ads (many of which were anti-Trump or hawking Obama merchandise) in an election where Hillary spent a biiiiiiilion dollars.
FTFY. And of course its Swiftboating - everything Hillbots have been accusing Trump of doing, Hillary was actually guilty of. From rigging a (primary) election to not just colluding with but paying for foreign intelligence agents for dirt on a general election opponent.
That's what a retail SE is.
A common side-effect of the Hatorade Distortion Field.
More like: all these problems aren't actually problems unless Apple is involved, due to the Hatorade Distortion Field.
You're being sarcastic, but the fact that many of the Dems that have been screaming the loudest that Trump is a Putin Puppet just voted to give him god-like surveillance powers. Which means they either want Putin to be able to spy on Americans, or they've been completely and utterly full of shit on Russiagate from the beginning.
Pick one.
Dunno, go ask your right-wing candidate that lost the most winnable election in history.
The vast majority of workers are not teenagers.
Did you read your own link? The closest it comes to such a thing is "And if you've ever wondered why so many people in fast-food outlets are under 18, now you know: it's a cost-cutting measure."
Try again.
Know what else is a Hollywood fantasy? Getting off a hip shot, at range, at armored targets in cover. But this guy didn't have a gun. I don't know about these cops, but I learned to always be sure of what I was shooting at when I took basic firearms safety.
When I was eight. And this man wasn't carrying anything, much less something that looked like a gun.
Ballistic shields are bullet proof. If the man came out with a .50 caliber rifle at the ready position it might have been a different story, but that wasn't the case.
Are you? Being a cop isn't even in the top ten of the most dangerous jobs in the United States. Loggers, fishermen, roofers, garbage men, truckers, taxi drivers, pilots and ag workers all have it harder than cops do. And we don't allow any of those people to literally beat your brains out in the street for no reason, with impunity. Take out car accidents - which don't have anything to do with cops getting their guns off - and they aren't even in the top 20.
Or you could pull you head out of your authoritarian ass. A prosecutor hauls you in for a crime you didn't commit, and says if you don't take the plea deal he's going to send you to prison for decades. You will absolutely lose your job, your house, and custody of your kids. You really going to reject that plea deal, slick?
Didn't think so.
Because the worst Swartz was guilty of was trespassing. A six month sentence plus a felony record that would have saddled him for life was completely asinine and unjustifiable. Next question?
Uh huh. And by that same token, can you name the ones she did reveal without searching?
Easy for you to say. Wonder if you'd have the same cavalier attitude, though, if it was your wedding that was drone bombed, then the funeral, then a double-tap on any first responders trying to rescue survivors. And then the same forces spent over an hour bombing the local hospital, just in case.
Which is what they were spending already. And if you've heard of Hollywood Accounting, there's lots of creative ways to dress up the numbers. So, back to the ACA having no cost controls.
A debunked talking point, with citations provided. Obama killed the public option long before any Republican or Bush Dog could have voted against it. And along with a real jobs plan, this would have been the easiest political campaign in history: "I want to bring you affordable health care but Rep XYZ SAYS NO!"
Stupid talking point. You don't find spontaneous generation in med textbooks because the idea was replaced with a better one. When climate change denialists have some superior science, call us. Until then you're as big a tool as anti-vaxxers, who also refuse to listen to "experts", because reasons.
Always has. Look at any mass extinction event, the environment changed too fast for life to adapt to it.
People have always gotten cancer - so there's no reason for you not to smoke 8 packs a day in asbestos-wrapped cigarettes.
People have always died in car accidents - so there's no reason for you not to drive 120 mph without a seatbelt, after drinking a bottle of gin.
Denialists are dipshits with atrocious logic. Always have been.