I don't think this activity is limited to 'street view' cars - I don't live in a country where there are any roaming the city at all, yet every mac address for all the access points I own can be located by entering them in to sites like: http://samy.pl/androidmap/index.php
I would assume Android is the culprit here. I expect Google buried some lawyer speak deep in an EULA making this activity perfectly legal. I'm not okay with it though.
Wouldn't this idea be immediately squished by the console manufacturers? I'd imagine they quite like the idea that people are reluctant to drop significant money on several versions of the same game since it more or less provides a nice market lock in. I think it's a good idea, I just get the feeling greed will kill it dead in no time though.
Here in the Philippines the situation is similar though in some ways better. When it comes time for billing you wait about 15 minutes for the dot matrix to churn out an exquisitely detailed list of everything and anything even remotely related to the event, right down to the total number and weight of cotton swabs used. If the bill is not an inch or more thick, you didn't really hurt yourself.:-)
And here I am thinking I'd rather just have a single piece of paper with a vague number on it, the itemized list just pisses you off when you see what they charge for.
In your world what has changed because this kid leaked some documents? Moral high ground or not, was the leak worth it to America (or the world)? If it wasn't for slashdot I'd forget all about it.
Back when I took the delta brief it was made pretty damn clear that I'd spend 7 or more years in a military prison for espionage, not too many years before that people were told they would receive the death penalty for the same activity. Strategic leaks happen all the time, these are intentional, to make an analogy of sorts, wholesale stealing an Elint Parameter List from the safe to OCR and email off to wikileaks over the weekend, you just don't do that crap regardless of how the data is obtained - assuming you value your freedom anyway.
The N95 uses accelerometers to rotate the screen, the handset was on display by Nokia some months before Mr Jobs made his iPhone.presentation. The point here I guess is that Apple really isn't terribly worthy of this patent it would seem.
I guess the definition of 4G depends entirely on who you talk to (or wiki). The average telecommunications carrier, for them it means they can allocate more users within the same amount of existing spectrum. They could give you 1Gbps while stationary or 100Mbps on the move - only when the pigs are flying and hell has frozen over - but why would they? If you look at the entire history of telecoms, it has always been about cramming more voice / data channels in to less space while charging the user the same or increasing amounts of money.
I used to be a 3 letter agency drone (and Military for a while too) - I think to say that the military is unprepared would be a little bit too black and white. There are individuals within government and military that are insanely knowledgeable in the trade, the real issue, as pointed out already, is mainly that management lag behind by about 5 to 10 years - I guess you don't always strictly need to understand a particular subject terribly well to manage those that do. I suspect in many instances it takes as long as it does for knowledge to filter up simply because that's how long it takes for people to get promoted to places their voices are actually heard.
In my time there was always money for hardware. Always. Want a vector analyzer but have no clue what you might do with it? Pick the one with every single option and module available and turned on, then buy it:-)
Good evening sir, if you would just swipe your card I'll have you out of here in a jiffy: The mobile POS device being a conglomeration of ipod, linksys router (dd-wrt, for extended range to reach that one corner in the back), card reader, 6 volt lantern batteries, paper clips, assorted wires in various colors, exposed circuit boards and electronics to convert serial to USB or whatever, all of this strapped together on a piece of chip-board with duct tape and thick rubber bands - Although it would look pretty cool, I'm not sure that I'd be comfortable contemplating weather the whole set up is PCI-DSS compliant:-)
Some merchant API's allow you to detail exactly what was purchased in the transaction, I haven't come across any payment gateways that make these parts of the payload compulsory (yet), but they definitely seem to be available for use. If the bank offered a bit of an incentive to include this information (lower fees) I can well imagine the bean counters would be entirely okay with selling customer souls to make a bit more money.
I sort of assumed that too, though I figure internally they probably want something in between Intelink and NIPRNet, obviously this allows for an infinitely more controlled level of public access. Clearly this would be handy for the NSA and other 3 letter agencies since they get to dip their fingers in any time they feel like, though being an ex-3-letter-agency drone myself, I can't help but think (know) that these suggestions only come about because there is an insatiable desire to have access to even greater amounts information. None of these people ever stand back and think "Maybe we're doing okay, lets just coast for a while" They've long since gone from knowing their targets to simply sucking down everything they can, sift through it all later.
I don't mind pilots assuming things will go smoothly. I definitely don't want those pilots to be dreaming up various failure scenarios or troubleshooting damaged indicator lamps to the point that they forget to fly the aircraft. If there is an issue they should function more or less automatically because they've done the whole "What if" business do death in the simulators.
I get your point though, blind confidence works, just until it doesn't, though in some occupations this kind of arrogance can also be beneficial.
In other parts of the world we would rather just keep working and doing whatever it is we do rather than have to spend time in court getting obviously unconstitutional shit declared unconstitutional by a judge. Do you not see the bigger problem?
I guess you believe the system will sort bad stuff out and justice is served, even when such efforts didn't need to occur in the first place. Apathy much?
In Australia a carton of cigarettes will set you back about $70 AUD/USD I guess on average, about $10 to $12 per pack. I don't smoke, not that this matters, but it is a nice place to live.
iiNet Refuse? Westnet was started by a guy called Chris Thomas, a former secret 3 letter agency drone (and I mean drone in a nice way, I kept the same seats warm for a few years myself) When Westnet was acquired by iiNet, the defence ties didn't vanish, they were replaced by political back scratching. We've all read the NSA stories about wiretapping on slashdot right? I'd say it would be wise to have at least a tiny rational dose of 'conspiracy theory' every now and again. Draw your own conclusions about Australian government agencies in that regard, but moral fiber over at iiNet, only in the newspaper.
It might be worthwhile for you to reassess this whole 'refuse to implement' position you have. While iiNet might refuse to block access (for a while) this doesn't mean nobody is watching.
All the info you need is in the summary links - yes, two astronomers saw it with their own eyes. (and night vision equipment, and obviously the two cameras in two differing locations that you don't trust)
Perhaps I'm not quite understanding your point about sticking to the deck - the lynx helicopter is pretty amazing, here's an impressive youtube video that shows exactly what you seem to be saying is not possible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC2XIGMI2kM Helicopter landing in very rough sea - negative pitch on the main rotor to push it down with some kind of harpoon arrangement that hooks to a grid on deck to keep it there after it lands..
I fly helicopters from time to time too - not as a profession though.
>>> the fact is that they are there to do a job of ensuring criminals are dealt the justice they deserve
This is where your entire argument falls apart. The police do not deal out justice as they see fit, you may want to talk to a judge about those ideas you have. If I'm pointing a camera in a public place, it's absolutely nobodies business why I might be doing that. You are welcome to disagree, that is your right, as is mine to film, even if you feel like I'm just rubbernecking for fame and fortune. Perhaps to agree with you somewhat, I have been at accidents where I've done CPR, wrapped bandages around people, held a hands for comfort, but, I've also pulled the camera out to document what happened - for myself primarily.
Explain this to me though, if the police are correct all the time as you imply: One particular accident I was nearly caught up in, a head on between two motorcycles just in front of me, one guy dead, 3 others severely injured. I shifted a motorbike off one guy because the exhaust was burning his legs - when I mentioned this to the police they said they were going to charge me for tampering with a crime scene - my response - "It's a fucking accident scene, what if that guy was your son?"
You try to help, you get told you are wrong, you take pictures, you're wrong, you walk away without helping, you're an asshole. People are sometimes idiotic, at least in a free country you can ignore that aspect and walk away. In a good country the police will also follow the same laws that govern society, and they get punished for doing otherwise.
That's not entirely correct, there are many reasons why you might still get a good cell signal on your phone while it is inside a microwave oven. The oven is only designed to attenuate the (usually 2.4GHz) signal to levels that wont harm humans, it doesn't need to be perfect, only good enough to conform with the regulations. If you're living near enough to a cell site your phone will still work.
How does death fit in to this concept? If I cross a road I could potentially be hit by a vehicle and killed, or not. As an observer of "information" I could see this happen to other people, but could death happen to me if I still have choices left to make? Would the universe split off and the "me" that chose not to cross, survives, the other me dies - would this mean consciousness lives on until old age for the individual, always?
I've had people say the same thing in regard to my N900 while I've had the slide out keyboard open - How many other people on the planet have an N900, let alone know what its capabilities are? 30 people or so?:-) The other common question: Is that a new iPhone? (also while the keyboard is out)
I don't think the Galaxy S looks much like an iPhone myself, one look at the display and you know it's running Android as well.
Although a very descriptive word that can be used quite aptly in all manner of conversation, I don't tend to see or hear 'motherfucker' terribly regularly from the scientific community myself. If I might suggest you focus a tad more on the science, perhaps even including some actual science, people might take you more seriously.
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...which would be handy if I actually owned an android device at all.
I don't think this activity is limited to 'street view' cars - I don't live in a country where there are any roaming the city at all, yet every mac address for all the access points I own can be located by entering them in to sites like: http://samy.pl/androidmap/index.php
I would assume Android is the culprit here. I expect Google buried some lawyer speak deep in an EULA making this activity perfectly legal. I'm not okay with it though.
Wouldn't this idea be immediately squished by the console manufacturers? I'd imagine they quite like the idea that people are reluctant to drop significant money on several versions of the same game since it more or less provides a nice market lock in. I think it's a good idea, I just get the feeling greed will kill it dead in no time though.
You mean rural countries like Australia? Small tropical jungles like Borneo? Or do you just not know what you are talking about?
Here in the Philippines the situation is similar though in some ways better. When it comes time for billing you wait about 15 minutes for the dot matrix to churn out an exquisitely detailed list of everything and anything even remotely related to the event, right down to the total number and weight of cotton swabs used. If the bill is not an inch or more thick, you didn't really hurt yourself. :-)
And here I am thinking I'd rather just have a single piece of paper with a vague number on it, the itemized list just pisses you off when you see what they charge for.
In your world what has changed because this kid leaked some documents? Moral high ground or not, was the leak worth it to America (or the world)? If it wasn't for slashdot I'd forget all about it.
Back when I took the delta brief it was made pretty damn clear that I'd spend 7 or more years in a military prison for espionage, not too many years before that people were told they would receive the death penalty for the same activity. Strategic leaks happen all the time, these are intentional, to make an analogy of sorts, wholesale stealing an Elint Parameter List from the safe to OCR and email off to wikileaks over the weekend, you just don't do that crap regardless of how the data is obtained - assuming you value your freedom anyway.
(I love you DSD, I know you read this!)
The N95 uses accelerometers to rotate the screen, the handset was on display by Nokia some months before Mr Jobs made his iPhone.presentation. The point here I guess is that Apple really isn't terribly worthy of this patent it would seem.
I guess the definition of 4G depends entirely on who you talk to (or wiki). The average telecommunications carrier, for them it means they can allocate more users within the same amount of existing spectrum. They could give you 1Gbps while stationary or 100Mbps on the move - only when the pigs are flying and hell has frozen over - but why would they? If you look at the entire history of telecoms, it has always been about cramming more voice / data channels in to less space while charging the user the same or increasing amounts of money.
I used to be a 3 letter agency drone (and Military for a while too) - I think to say that the military is unprepared would be a little bit too black and white. There are individuals within government and military that are insanely knowledgeable in the trade, the real issue, as pointed out already, is mainly that management lag behind by about 5 to 10 years - I guess you don't always strictly need to understand a particular subject terribly well to manage those that do. I suspect in many instances it takes as long as it does for knowledge to filter up simply because that's how long it takes for people to get promoted to places their voices are actually heard.
In my time there was always money for hardware. Always. Want a vector analyzer but have no clue what you might do with it? Pick the one with every single option and module available and turned on, then buy it :-)
Good evening sir, if you would just swipe your card I'll have you out of here in a jiffy: The mobile POS device being a conglomeration of ipod, linksys router (dd-wrt, for extended range to reach that one corner in the back), card reader, 6 volt lantern batteries, paper clips, assorted wires in various colors, exposed circuit boards and electronics to convert serial to USB or whatever, all of this strapped together on a piece of chip-board with duct tape and thick rubber bands - Although it would look pretty cool, I'm not sure that I'd be comfortable contemplating weather the whole set up is PCI-DSS compliant :-)
Some merchant API's allow you to detail exactly what was purchased in the transaction, I haven't come across any payment gateways that make these parts of the payload compulsory (yet), but they definitely seem to be available for use. If the bank offered a bit of an incentive to include this information (lower fees) I can well imagine the bean counters would be entirely okay with selling customer souls to make a bit more money.
I sort of assumed that too, though I figure internally they probably want something in between Intelink and NIPRNet, obviously this allows for an infinitely more controlled level of public access. Clearly this would be handy for the NSA and other 3 letter agencies since they get to dip their fingers in any time they feel like, though being an ex-3-letter-agency drone myself, I can't help but think (know) that these suggestions only come about because there is an insatiable desire to have access to even greater amounts information. None of these people ever stand back and think "Maybe we're doing okay, lets just coast for a while" They've long since gone from knowing their targets to simply sucking down everything they can, sift through it all later.
I don't mind pilots assuming things will go smoothly. I definitely don't want those pilots to be dreaming up various failure scenarios or troubleshooting damaged indicator lamps to the point that they forget to fly the aircraft. If there is an issue they should function more or less automatically because they've done the whole "What if" business do death in the simulators.
I get your point though, blind confidence works, just until it doesn't, though in some occupations this kind of arrogance can also be beneficial.
In other parts of the world we would rather just keep working and doing whatever it is we do rather than have to spend time in court getting obviously unconstitutional shit declared unconstitutional by a judge. Do you not see the bigger problem?
I guess you believe the system will sort bad stuff out and justice is served, even when such efforts didn't need to occur in the first place. Apathy much?
In Australia a carton of cigarettes will set you back about $70 AUD/USD I guess on average, about $10 to $12 per pack. I don't smoke, not that this matters, but it is a nice place to live.
iiNet Refuse? Westnet was started by a guy called Chris Thomas, a former secret 3 letter agency drone (and I mean drone in a nice way, I kept the same seats warm for a few years myself) When Westnet was acquired by iiNet, the defence ties didn't vanish, they were replaced by political back scratching. We've all read the NSA stories about wiretapping on slashdot right? I'd say it would be wise to have at least a tiny rational dose of 'conspiracy theory' every now and again. Draw your own conclusions about Australian government agencies in that regard, but moral fiber over at iiNet, only in the newspaper.
It might be worthwhile for you to reassess this whole 'refuse to implement' position you have. While iiNet might refuse to block access (for a while) this doesn't mean nobody is watching.
All the info you need is in the summary links - yes, two astronomers saw it with their own eyes. (and night vision equipment, and obviously the two cameras in two differing locations that you don't trust)
Perhaps I'm not quite understanding your point about sticking to the deck - the lynx helicopter is pretty amazing, here's an impressive youtube video that shows exactly what you seem to be saying is not possible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC2XIGMI2kM Helicopter landing in very rough sea - negative pitch on the main rotor to push it down with some kind of harpoon arrangement that hooks to a grid on deck to keep it there after it lands..
I fly helicopters from time to time too - not as a profession though.
>>> the fact is that they are there to do a job of ensuring criminals are dealt the justice they deserve
This is where your entire argument falls apart. The police do not deal out justice as they see fit, you may want to talk to a judge about those ideas you have. If I'm pointing a camera in a public place, it's absolutely nobodies business why I might be doing that. You are welcome to disagree, that is your right, as is mine to film, even if you feel like I'm just rubbernecking for fame and fortune. Perhaps to agree with you somewhat, I have been at accidents where I've done CPR, wrapped bandages around people, held a hands for comfort, but, I've also pulled the camera out to document what happened - for myself primarily.
Explain this to me though, if the police are correct all the time as you imply: One particular accident I was nearly caught up in, a head on between two motorcycles just in front of me, one guy dead, 3 others severely injured. I shifted a motorbike off one guy because the exhaust was burning his legs - when I mentioned this to the police they said they were going to charge me for tampering with a crime scene - my response - "It's a fucking accident scene, what if that guy was your son?"
You try to help, you get told you are wrong, you take pictures, you're wrong, you walk away without helping, you're an asshole. People are sometimes idiotic, at least in a free country you can ignore that aspect and walk away. In a good country the police will also follow the same laws that govern society, and they get punished for doing otherwise.
That's not entirely correct, there are many reasons why you might still get a good cell signal on your phone while it is inside a microwave oven. The oven is only designed to attenuate the (usually 2.4GHz) signal to levels that wont harm humans, it doesn't need to be perfect, only good enough to conform with the regulations. If you're living near enough to a cell site your phone will still work.
I'm using 5GHz WiFi (you insensitive clod) :-)
How does death fit in to this concept? If I cross a road I could potentially be hit by a vehicle and killed, or not. As an observer of "information" I could see this happen to other people, but could death happen to me if I still have choices left to make? Would the universe split off and the "me" that chose not to cross, survives, the other me dies - would this mean consciousness lives on until old age for the individual, always?
What color is the stuff that's not red shifted? :-)
I've had people say the same thing in regard to my N900 while I've had the slide out keyboard open - How many other people on the planet have an N900, let alone know what its capabilities are? 30 people or so? :-) The other common question: Is that a new iPhone? (also while the keyboard is out)
I don't think the Galaxy S looks much like an iPhone myself, one look at the display and you know it's running Android as well.
Although a very descriptive word that can be used quite aptly in all manner of conversation, I don't tend to see or hear 'motherfucker' terribly regularly from the scientific community myself. If I might suggest you focus a tad more on the science, perhaps even including some actual science, people might take you more seriously.
On behalf of everyone at slashdot, I'd just like to say you're an idiot.