Wow, your disdain for anyone who actually creates something is pretty insulting. It seems that anyone who creates something that entertains you does not have a 'real job'. And people like you wonder why copyright holders treat the anti-copyright movement the way they do.
if what we do is so easy, YOU DO IT. seriously, stop torrenting everyone else's movies and go film your own. Its not a real job, so it must be fucking easy right?
you have hit upon the crux of the issue. People here are trying to find any bullshit rationalisation that lets them take copyrighted material for free. This argument about copyright terms is silliness. If I can just write a new version of Star Wars, without fear of copyright infringement, why would I NOT do that? It has brand recognition, and people already know the back story. But with copyright, I have to actually *SHOCK HORROR* invent a new story and characters. Thats GOOD for the creation of new stories and ideas. Why can't people understand this? Would you prefer that the Rolling Stones wrote their own music, or that they just did Beatles cover tunes all their career?
Interesting. When my dad dies, I'll inherit his house. As a result, I don't work too hard because I can sit on kmy fat ass knowing I'll be mortgage free when the old man kicks the bucket. In fact, a huge chunk of people all over the western world live under, and support the same system. And there, the property doesn't expire EVER. But strangely, this is ok? Could it be because YOU might benefit from inheritance it's ok, but because YOU don't benefit from royalties, they are 'teh evil'?
I can't wait to see the slashdot coverage of the 99.999% of economists who don't share these lunatic views. Oh wait... this site is all about bashing copyright. I almost forgot and mistook it for actual news.
Wow. So anyone who doesnt agree with you and might think that infringing copyright is a bad thing MUST be 'astroturfing'. What a closed-minded view. Maybe if you actually considered the possibility that the people with differing views honestly held them, and actually listened to them, you might learn something?
Bullshit. If you knowingly assist someone in committing a crime OF COURSE you should be held responsible. the key word here is KNOWINGLY. This is why google arent prosecuted and TPB are. TPB know full well the torrents link to copyrighted material, but they ignore the DMCA and similar notices. Google respond to them.
If a guy walks into a gun store and says he needs to kill some cops, can he have the best cop slaughtering gun and some ammo, should the guy in the store be allowed to sell him stuff and keep that information to himself?
I couldn't agree more. have fun watching the mental and moral gymnastics in the posts that follow yours, where you will be abused, shouted at and insulted for suggesting that people cant have everything they want for free.
well to be fair, we don't know the result because the Germans never made it to our shores. If you think it wouldn't have helped, I suspect you are wrong. If you read about the Normandy invasion, even WITH correct road signs, and resistance fighters helping them out, the vast majority of US airborne dropped that night got thoroughly lost. Many of them were so confused and disoriented they just sat where they were dropped and waited for people to find them.
Would changing road signs have defeated the Germans? Not on it's own, but when you are attacked by a foreign army, you use every possible trick to maximise the home advantage of knowing the terrain. moving a few road signs cost nothing, and was slightly inconvenient to the locals. Probably a price worth paying to buy time during an invasion.
Dude. if you ever get crippled by a hit and run driver, I wont bother telling the cops the number plate if I saw it. Why would I? it's nobodies duty to help law enforcement do their job right?
software engineers get a SALARY. maybe you didn't know that?
I am a software engineer and get no salary, and CHOOSE to risk it all in return for royalties. Thats the choice. Don't bitch about having a choice and making the wrong one
And you are talking about the 'entitlement mentality' and having a go at the content creators?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It seems you are confused. the problem is slashdot readers who have an 'Entitlement mentality' to everyone else's hard work for fuck all payment.
you realise that pretty much anyone can stick a $50 note in a photocopier or printer right?
The fact is the government goes to enormous lengths with special ink, special paper and even special code in printers and photocopiers to try and make what should be trivial (copying an image) very hard. They also have severe jail terms if you do it.
Why bother? They are trying to prop up a business model based upon preventing you doing something that should take no cost or effort right?
Perhaps they realise that there is a social benefit to keeping the currency at a limited supply, so it actually has some worth...
I'd also love to see a band like Dream Theater play to a click track. Not everyone plays to a single time signature for a whole song. DT don't stick to one for more than 10 seconds, or so it seems:D
Forget the home office if you are mad enoguh to make console games. Nintendo contacted me about making games for the wii. Then refused to let me do so because I had a home office. I'd lvoe to make wii games. I'm not renting an office to just to keep the big N happy though. I *like* working with my fridge and kettle 10 feet away and my cats snoozing on the desk.
I think the answer is obvious. You develop games for the PC. There are no retarded acceptance boards at nintendo who can refuse me permission to make a PC game because I have a home office, and I can make the game I want, regardless of what publishers think. Consoles are a major hurdle for indie developers. They naturally belong on the PC platform. Plus nobody has to take a share of the sale price when you sell direct online to your customers.
well said. As a game developer, I make PC games. Why? partlky because of market share, but mainly because its so open and easy. The thought that a platform developer WANTS it to be difficult is just mind numbing. What do we do the other 9 years? How about we develop more fun games? What a jerk. I bet the guy saying this has never actually played a game in his life, except to impress journalists with the polygon count on characters nasal hair.
taking a picture of a car does not give you the same utility as owning the car, so its value is clearly nothing like the value of the car. If what i do gives me the same abilities and utility as owning the car, the value is the value of the car.
writing a paper is one thing. Converting it to a working business model is another. If you are so 100% sure that you have a better business model than these billion dollar companies, why are you wasting time doing an MBA when you could be retired on a gold plated island by now?
I used to have a simple EULA for my games, the readme just said
"I'm a small one man company, don't rip me off ok?"
Over the years I've had a number of assholes lecture me that they pirated my games and as there was no legally binding agreement saying they couldn't share them, it was fine and they were in the right.
There is always some jerk out there who will abuse any gap in a reasonable EULA, forcing you to explicitly state the fucking obvious for the benefit of assholes who want to exploit the wording. No company WANTS to employ expensive lawyers to draft legal shit. They end up doing it because another group of lawyers on behalf of people pulling crazy stunts force them to be more and more literal and explicit.
I'm 100% behind the idea of a simple "obey copyright law" EULA. The thing is, some slimey swine in a courtroom will argue that its too vague, and thus there was no breach.
"There is also nothing on that list that a single person with access to the source code couldn't hack in without testing for backwards compatibility, performance or security in a handful of days"
Fixed.
Writing code that compiled and runs is quick. Writing code for an O/S that runs on hundreds of millions of computers in hundreds of languages and tens of thousands of hardware configurations isn't.
wtf? you own what? the internet? I dont get it. Why should I get the output of journalists for free? Please explain why they must do their job for you without pay?
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Wow, your disdain for anyone who actually creates something is pretty insulting.
It seems that anyone who creates something that entertains you does not have a 'real job'.
And people like you wonder why copyright holders treat the anti-copyright movement the way they do.
if what we do is so easy, YOU DO IT.
seriously, stop torrenting everyone else's movies and go film your own. Its not a real job, so it must be fucking easy right?
you have hit upon the crux of the issue.
People here are trying to find any bullshit rationalisation that lets them take copyrighted material for free. This argument about copyright terms is silliness.
If I can just write a new version of Star Wars, without fear of copyright infringement, why would I NOT do that? It has brand recognition, and people already know the back story.
But with copyright, I have to actually *SHOCK HORROR* invent a new story and characters.
Thats GOOD for the creation of new stories and ideas.
Why can't people understand this?
Would you prefer that the Rolling Stones wrote their own music, or that they just did Beatles cover tunes all their career?
Interesting.
When my dad dies, I'll inherit his house. As a result, I don't work too hard because I can sit on kmy fat ass knowing I'll be mortgage free when the old man kicks the bucket.
In fact, a huge chunk of people all over the western world live under, and support the same system.
And there, the property doesn't expire EVER.
But strangely, this is ok? Could it be because YOU might benefit from inheritance it's ok, but because YOU don't benefit from royalties, they are 'teh evil'?
I can't wait to see the slashdot coverage of the 99.999% of economists who don't share these lunatic views.
Oh wait... this site is all about bashing copyright. I almost forgot and mistook it for actual news.
Wow.
So anyone who doesnt agree with you and might think that infringing copyright is a bad thing MUST be 'astroturfing'. What a closed-minded view. Maybe if you actually considered the possibility that the people with differing views honestly held them, and actually listened to them, you might learn something?
true.
But when they are explicitly told about a copyright infringing torrent they ignore it.
That totally blows their innocence out of the water.
Bullshit.
If you knowingly assist someone in committing a crime OF COURSE you should be held responsible. the key word here is KNOWINGLY.
This is why google arent prosecuted and TPB are. TPB know full well the torrents link to copyrighted material, but they ignore the DMCA and similar notices. Google respond to them.
If a guy walks into a gun store and says he needs to kill some cops, can he have the best cop slaughtering gun and some ammo, should the guy in the store be allowed to sell him stuff and keep that information to himself?
get a grip!
I couldn't agree more. have fun watching the mental and moral gymnastics in the posts that follow yours, where you will be abused, shouted at and insulted for suggesting that people cant have everything they want for free.
well to be fair, we don't know the result because the Germans never made it to our shores. If you think it wouldn't have helped, I suspect you are wrong. If you read about the Normandy invasion, even WITH correct road signs, and resistance fighters helping them out, the vast majority of US airborne dropped that night got thoroughly lost. Many of them were so confused and disoriented they just sat where they were dropped and waited for people to find them.
Would changing road signs have defeated the Germans? Not on it's own, but when you are attacked by a foreign army, you use every possible trick to maximise the home advantage of knowing the terrain. moving a few road signs cost nothing, and was slightly inconvenient to the locals. Probably a price worth paying to buy time during an invasion.
Dude. if you ever get crippled by a hit and run driver, I wont bother telling the cops the number plate if I saw it. Why would I? it's nobodies duty to help law enforcement do their job right?
software engineers get a SALARY. maybe you didn't know that?
I am a software engineer and get no salary, and CHOOSE to risk it all in return for royalties. Thats the choice. Don't bitch about having a choice and making the wrong one
And you are talking about the 'entitlement mentality' and having a go at the content creators?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It seems you are confused. the problem is slashdot readers who have an 'Entitlement mentality' to everyone else's hard work for fuck all payment.
I can't believe you think your post made sense.
you realise that pretty much anyone can stick a $50 note in a photocopier or printer right?
The fact is the government goes to enormous lengths with special ink, special paper and even special code in printers and photocopiers to try and make what should be trivial (copying an image) very hard.
They also have severe jail terms if you do it.
Why bother? They are trying to prop up a business model based upon preventing you doing something that should take no cost or effort right?
Perhaps they realise that there is a social benefit to keeping the currency at a limited supply, so it actually has some worth...
I'd also love to see a band like Dream Theater play to a click track. Not everyone plays to a single time signature for a whole song. :D
DT don't stick to one for more than 10 seconds, or so it seems
teachers get paid kid.
Forget the home office if you are mad enoguh to make console games.
Nintendo contacted me about making games for the wii. Then refused to let me do so because I had a home office.
I'd lvoe to make wii games. I'm not renting an office to just to keep the big N happy though. I *like* working with my fridge and kettle 10 feet away and my cats snoozing on the desk.
I think the answer is obvious.
You develop games for the PC. There are no retarded acceptance boards at nintendo who can refuse me permission to make a PC game because I have a home office, and I can make the game I want, regardless of what publishers think.
Consoles are a major hurdle for indie developers. They naturally belong on the PC platform.
Plus nobody has to take a share of the sale price when you sell direct online to your customers.
well said.
As a game developer, I make PC games. Why? partlky because of market share, but mainly because its so open and easy. The thought that a platform developer WANTS it to be difficult is just mind numbing.
What do we do the other 9 years?
How about we develop more fun games?
What a jerk. I bet the guy saying this has never actually played a game in his life, except to impress journalists with the polygon count on characters nasal hair.
taking a picture of a car does not give you the same utility as owning the car, so its value is clearly nothing like the value of the car.
If what i do gives me the same abilities and utility as owning the car, the value is the value of the car.
writing a paper is one thing. Converting it to a working business model is another. If you are so 100% sure that you have a better business model than these billion dollar companies, why are you wasting time doing an MBA when you could be retired on a gold plated island by now?
I used to have a simple EULA for my games, the readme just said
"I'm a small one man company, don't rip me off ok?"
Over the years I've had a number of assholes lecture me that they pirated my games and as there was no legally binding agreement saying they couldn't share them, it was fine and they were in the right.
There is always some jerk out there who will abuse any gap in a reasonable EULA, forcing you to explicitly state the fucking obvious for the benefit of assholes who want to exploit the wording.
No company WANTS to employ expensive lawyers to draft legal shit. They end up doing it because another group of lawyers on behalf of people pulling crazy stunts force them to be more and more literal and explicit.
I'm 100% behind the idea of a simple "obey copyright law" EULA. The thing is, some slimey swine in a courtroom will argue that its too vague, and thus there was no breach.
Lawyers on BOTH sides are to blame.
"There is also nothing on that list that a single person with access to the source code couldn't hack in without testing for backwards compatibility, performance or security in a handful of days"
Fixed.
Writing code that compiled and runs is quick. Writing code for an O/S that runs on hundreds of millions of computers in hundreds of languages and tens of thousands of hardware configurations isn't.
keep wasting your points kids
I agree, but you must be new here. Piracy == freedom apparently
wow. modded troll for daring to suggest p2p is used to infringe copyright. How fucking delusional are the kids here?
wtf?
you own what? the internet?
I dont get it.
Why should I get the output of journalists for free? Please explain why they must do their job for you without pay?