I like your idea, and I think I've enhanced it to everyone's benefit.
Fingerprint, retina, and anus should all be used as potential forms of ID. This could be used as a rating system as well as a security system.
Think about it; you put a dvd into the dvd player. If you've never seen the movie before, you use your retina as ID. If you have, and you liked the movie, use your thumbprint. If didn't like the movie, use your anus.
The MPAA gets a rating system and secure DVDs, and you get to voice frustration with the chick flicks your girlfriend (and this goes both ways, your girlfriend gets to voice her frustration with your fave killkillkill movies) likes so much.
The only problem is while I can see Walmart accepting the rfid tag, I don't see them being too happy with customers dropping their pants every time a dvd is purchased...
"Wired is reporting on some scary new DRM tech being developed. From the article: 'At the store, someone buying a new DVD would have to provide a password or some kind of biometric data, like a fingerprint or iris scan, which would be added to the DVD's RFID tag. Then, when the DVD was popped into a specially equipped DVD player, the viewer would be required to re-enter the data.'"
Fuck OFF!
I cannot believe anyone would suggest such an INVASIVE method of securing a damn dvd, just for the 15 bucks the movie executive figures they're owed. It boggles the freakin' mind that anyone would be stupid enough to even think this is a good idea.
I knew there was a reason why I was building up my dvd collection; so that in the future, when the entertainment industry makes it... unwise... to be watching and/or listening to their current material, I still have movies I can watch on a Saturday night.
*** Is this a sign that this picture is changing, with consumers begining to realise and leverage their own market power? ***
No, this is a sign that consumers are finding out what the money-whoring corporates have been up to. Namely, enacting unreasonable limitations on the use of music and movie products, that don't preclude the use of programs to enforce those limitations. Programs that in other contexts are considered trojans and viruses.
I'll believe that consumers will start to realize and leverage their own market power when they lean on the politicians to the point when the policos discuss the enactment of laws that make the use of such programs illegal. Given most governments have, or are working towards, enacting laws that promote and protect DRM, this is a long way off.
*But again, you probably feel you deserve everything in life for free.*
And if you turn the argument about, you feel you deserve to make money off of your venture, no matter what. No reasonable limits apply.
You've found that the subscription model doesn't work - your website/service just isn't interesting enough for the public to want to pay for it. So now you're demanding the right to serve up advertisements in your web pages.
But those web pages are viewed on my web browser. And I have the right to determine what my web browser does and does not display on my monitor. I've also got the right to determine what spyware-ridden, trojan-installing-through-Internet-Explorer ads I do or do not view on my monitor. I've got the right to protect my computer from unauthorized invasions.
I paid for my internet access. Every month I fork over a set amount to my ISP, and in turn, they let me browse the internet using their equipment. I am in no way responsible for your paying your bills, and I did not give up any right to prevent others from installing scripts on my computer without permission.
Any social contract was rendered null and void the first time the first advert served up a side of malicious, no-permission-required, executable script.
Yes, it's acceptable. Marketing, Engineering, and Management get paid before the artist does.
And I don't need a law on the books that someone, sooner or later, is going to use to try to criminalize my evading drm installed on a legally-purchased music cd or dvd.
The point of the new legislation is to criminalize non-criminal behaviour. Purchase a dvd? If it comes with a program that demands to loaded and executed if the dvd is played on a computer, then my finding and executing a way to avoid loading and executing that program would then be illegal if someone somewhere decides that 'private use' is an infringement.
The point of the article is that music/video pirates are not solely responsible for the music industry's declining sales or even responsible for a significant portion of those declining sales, and should not be held responsible for those declining sales by Parliment.
I once agreed to be my parents designated driver and chauffeur them and their friends one New Years Eve in New York State. We live in Ontario.
On the night in question all had a great time, and coming back my father and his friend took to caterwauling, er, singing in the backseat of the car.
At the border, he Canadian Customs agent, from as far away as possible, asked me, "Citizenship?" When I answered "Canadian," his response was to wave frantically while saying, "go, go."
There was a group of burglars hanging out at Pearson Airport doing exactly what the parent poster was talking about. They were reading the address tags attached to suitcases - they knew the folks at those addresses would be gone for awhile - and would then go and rob those homes. Cops arrested 'em.
It happened a few years back. Was in a few newspapers. Try doing a Google if you're looking for more details.
But a better scam would be to use the information gleaned from the passport rfid tag to steal someone's identity. All you would need is the rfid reader, enclosed in a purse or shoulder bag, an hour of so of waiting, and you're set. And keep in mind, rfid popularity is growing. Other cards - I've heard credit cards would like to go rfid - could be scanned too.
*** Perhaps Microsoft should include an option, like 'Prepare this computer for resale,' which utterly destroys all data." ***
Not the best of ideas - this option might also enforce any eulas and, say, prevent the next user from using the XP OEM key that came with the computer, or enforce other obscure rules that are buried in the fine print.
Your best bet is to overwrite your existing data, then reformat and reinstall the OS. Or, if you're truly paranoid, keep the hard drive and let the new owner buy their own.
I guess you'll be blacklisting anyone who downloads legally-purchased music from itunes or puretracks eh. And those amazon.ca customers are going to have to go to the top of the list.
Dude, if your business is suffering, it might be because you're frightening the customers with the Dirty Harry act.
It should be law that everyone has their DNA recorded into a database, criminally convicted or not. Along with fingerprints and footprints.
And it should be guaranteed by law that one owns ones DNA and that ownership cannot be forfeited, rented, sold, or turned over to another person or entity, no matter what the circumstances are.
*** You may not care about advertisers, but if the effectiveness of TV ads diminishes, then the quantity and/or quality of TV content will also diminish. ***
The effectiveness of TV ads dimished a long time ago by sheer overkill. Everywhere I turn, I see commercials - on tv, on the subway, on the subway floor, in the newspaper, in the elevator, as background noise on the radio. It's gotten to the point where I am ignoring signs posted on doors as the subconscious thinks 'advertisement' - before it has even read the sign - and tells the forebrain to ignore the white square pasted on the glass in front of me.
The commercials come on tv? My first, overriding instinct, is to turn the channel. It's a major effort for me now to remain tuned to the same channel when the ads come on.
Click click click.
So I purchase dvd box sets. Cheap dvd box sets. And edit out commercials whenever I get the chance; whether by fastforward, skipping ahead 2 minutes, or channel change. Any tv show that prices its content too high does not get my dollar. If this means they go out of business, so be it.
Point 1: This isn't 'RIAA' music, this is Apple's music.
Point 2: This isn't making music 'free'. This stops DRM being added to music files downloaded from Apple. One can't download the files without paying for them.
Point 3: This isn't illegal. DRM isn't being circumvented, DRM isn't allowed to come into the picture at all.
Point 4: One can do the same damn thing by burning the music files to rewriteable cd's, then ripping them to mp3s. Surely you're not suggesting ripping cd's to mp3s is illegal.
Point 5: Using Bittorent, to download any damn file, is just asking for trouble. Once you start accessing p2p programs, you just know some freakin' legal accountant somewhere is keeping track of your activities, legal or otherwise, just waiting for an excuse, any excuse, to pounce.
I work rotating 12 hour shifts. The only way to survive 12 hour workdays is to live where you work. During lunch, instead of sitting down to eat, eat a sandwich and walk at the same time, climb stairs, anything. When you get home, SLEEP. If this irritates the significant other/kids, tough.
I tried the pay-to-download services - in Canada it's called Puretracks.
Guess which wmv files my portable Sony music player won't play... yep, the Puretracks ones. Ain't progress grand?
Look, dude, if I go to the trouble of PURCHASING a damn cd, it's because I want to rip the thing to mp3 and then listen to it. So long as I don't 'redistribute' the music, who freakin' cares!
Y'know, the music industry was saying that they didn't mind my having mp3s, so long as I didn't share 'em with 200 of my best friends; now they've changed their minds and are saying they mind my having mp3s, sharing or no sharing, and they're going to make it illegal to have mp3s.
I have no sympathy for 'em when their sales fall even further -- who the feck would buy their damn cds when it just gets you into feckin' trouble?
*** "The Norwegian government has shown a broad vision that is unique in Europe," said the group's secretary general Per Morten Hoff. He praised the law for recognizing the industry's right to protect copyrighted material. ***
Vision that is unique? LOL! With the currently changing markets for music formats - no one wants a portable cd player any more, everyone wants a portable mp3/wmv player - Norway's vision is ensuring either their population breaks the law, or sales of music cd's will plummet.
Their right to protect copyrighted material is going to be guaranteed by the time they're finished -- no one is going to be interested in the material at all by the time all those criminal convictions of illegal mp3 rippings take place.
Buy a music cd? Hell no, who needs the trouble that causes.
**Walton's daughter, Robin Chianumba, lived with her mother for the last 17 years of her life and said her mother objected to having a computer in the house. Chianumba said she didn't know anything about the record company's claims. And she said she does not know anything about the screen name.
"My mother was computer illiterate. She hated a computer," Chianumba said. "My mother wouldn't know how to turn on a computer."**
At a glance, it looks like either the RIAA has made a huge mistake, or Walton's identity was stolen.
*** My only concern is how the DRM will impact this when the FCC's broadcast biut kicks in this summer. ***
Check out pchdtv.com
They're advertising an over-the-air broadcasted HD card that ignores the broadcast flag. Slashdot reviewed the card awhile back in November. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/07/223222 0&tid=129&tid=137&tid=1
I'm known amongst friends and family as being literate in the world of dvd recording, and more and more, whenever I get asked to make a recommendation on a dvd recorder, I'm telling folks to keep the VCR in good shape. You want to record something; pop in a videotape, hit record, and play it as many times as you want.
But the world of dvd recording is getting more and more freakin' complicated with the bottom line being 'you can record it, but it won't play.' Right now, the geniuses in Hollywood haven't hit that 'enable CPRM' button, but once they do, it'll make trying to make a dvd home recording of Show X next to impossible, and the prevalent view amongst home viewers will be 'the savvy money held onto their vcrs.'
Combine this with the new ATSC format; 'ma, if you want to keep watching the soaps, you either need one of them there converter boxes or buy a new tv. And don't forget, you gotta watch it live because we haven't figured out how to get the vcr to work with the new converter box;' and you're guaranteeing that folks are going to be strongly motivated to simply turn the boob tube off. They will NOT understand what's happening to the tv and will not be willing/able to afford the new gear. Combine this with tales from their neighbours/kids of how the new, expensive, home recording gear doesn't really work and needs a University degree to understand how to use, and no one will be willing to touch anything new. Not the televised formats, not the new tvs, not the new dvd recorders.
The entertaiment industry will have what they absolute want; either you watch the show live, or you purchase the dvd box set. But the market for electronic goodies will absolutely collapse.
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I like your idea, and I think I've enhanced it to everyone's benefit.
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Fingerprint, retina, and anus should all be used as potential forms of ID. This could be used as a rating system as well as a security system.
Think about it; you put a dvd into the dvd player. If you've never seen the movie before, you use your retina as ID. If you have, and you liked the movie, use your thumbprint. If didn't like the movie, use your anus.
The MPAA gets a rating system and secure DVDs, and you get to voice frustration with the chick flicks your girlfriend (and this goes both ways, your girlfriend gets to voice her frustration with your fave killkillkill movies) likes so much.
The only problem is while I can see Walmart accepting the rfid tag, I don't see them being too happy with customers dropping their pants every time a dvd is purchased
"Wired is reporting on some scary new DRM tech being developed. From the article: 'At the store, someone buying a new DVD would have to provide a password or some kind of biometric data, like a fingerprint or iris scan, which would be added to the DVD's RFID tag. Then, when the DVD was popped into a specially equipped DVD player, the viewer would be required to re-enter the data.'"
... unwise ... to be watching and/or listening to their current material, I still have movies I can watch on a Saturday night.
Fuck OFF!
I cannot believe anyone would suggest such an INVASIVE method of securing a damn dvd, just for the 15 bucks the movie executive figures they're owed. It boggles the freakin' mind that anyone would be stupid enough to even think this is a good idea.
I knew there was a reason why I was building up my dvd collection; so that in the future, when the entertainment industry makes it
*** Is this a sign that this picture is changing, with consumers begining to realise and leverage their own market power? ***
No, this is a sign that consumers are finding out what the money-whoring corporates have been up to. Namely, enacting unreasonable limitations on the use of music and movie products, that don't preclude the use of programs to enforce those limitations. Programs that in other contexts are considered trojans and viruses.
I'll believe that consumers will start to realize and leverage their own market power when they lean on the politicians to the point when the policos discuss the enactment of laws that make the use of such programs illegal. Given most governments have, or are working towards, enacting laws that promote and protect DRM, this is a long way off.
And your answer convinces me that adblocking is the only way to go.
*But again, you probably feel you deserve everything in life for free.*
And if you turn the argument about, you feel you deserve to make money off of your venture, no matter what. No reasonable limits apply.
You've found that the subscription model doesn't work - your website/service just isn't interesting enough for the public to want to pay for it. So now you're demanding the right to serve up advertisements in your web pages.
But those web pages are viewed on my web browser. And I have the right to determine what my web browser does and does not display on my monitor. I've also got the right to determine what spyware-ridden, trojan-installing-through-Internet-Explorer ads I do or do not view on my monitor. I've got the right to protect my computer from unauthorized invasions.
I paid for my internet access. Every month I fork over a set amount to my ISP, and in turn, they let me browse the internet using their equipment. I am in no way responsible for your paying your bills, and I did not give up any right to prevent others from installing scripts on my computer without permission.
Any social contract was rendered null and void the first time the first advert served up a side of malicious, no-permission-required, executable script.
Yes, it's acceptable. Marketing, Engineering, and Management get paid before the artist does.
And I don't need a law on the books that someone, sooner or later, is going to use to try to criminalize my evading drm installed on a legally-purchased music cd or dvd.
The point of the new legislation is to criminalize non-criminal behaviour. Purchase a dvd? If it comes with a program that demands to loaded and executed if the dvd is played on a computer, then my finding and executing a way to avoid loading and executing that program would then be illegal if someone somewhere decides that 'private use' is an infringement.
The point of the article is that music/video pirates are not solely responsible for the music industry's declining sales or even responsible for a significant portion of those declining sales, and should not be held responsible for those declining sales by Parliment.
I once agreed to be my parents designated driver and chauffeur them and their friends one New Years Eve in New York State. We live in Ontario.
On the night in question all had a great time, and coming back my father and his friend took to caterwauling, er, singing in the backseat of the car.
At the border, he Canadian Customs agent, from as far away as possible, asked me, "Citizenship?" When I answered "Canadian," his response was to wave frantically while saying, "go, go."
Guess he didn't need having us in the office, eh.
There was a group of burglars hanging out at Pearson Airport doing exactly what the parent poster was talking about. They were reading the address tags attached to suitcases - they knew the folks at those addresses would be gone for awhile - and would then go and rob those homes. Cops arrested 'em.
It happened a few years back. Was in a few newspapers. Try doing a Google if you're looking for more details.
But a better scam would be to use the information gleaned from the passport rfid tag to steal someone's identity. All you would need is the rfid reader, enclosed in a purse or shoulder bag, an hour of so of waiting, and you're set. And keep in mind, rfid popularity is growing. Other cards - I've heard credit cards would like to go rfid - could be scanned too.
*** Perhaps Microsoft should include an option, like 'Prepare this computer for resale,' which utterly destroys all data." ***
Not the best of ideas - this option might also enforce any eulas and, say, prevent the next user from using the XP OEM key that came with the computer, or enforce other obscure rules that are buried in the fine print.
Your best bet is to overwrite your existing data, then reformat and reinstall the OS. Or, if you're truly paranoid, keep the hard drive and let the new owner buy their own.
To hell with 'em and their damn adverts.
I freakin' hate sites that practically want my firstborn in return for watching a damn video file or two.
Reread the article: private use copying is going to be outlawed as per the amendments.
Time to hit your M.P. screaming bloody blue murder.
Talk about double-dog-daring Apple to haul your butt into civil court and ask for damages.
And just because the guy won one legal battle does not mean he'll win the next one.
I guess you'll be blacklisting anyone who downloads legally-purchased music from itunes or puretracks eh. And those amazon.ca customers are going to have to go to the top of the list.
Dude, if your business is suffering, it might be because you're frightening the customers with the Dirty Harry act.
It should be law that everyone has their DNA recorded into a database, criminally convicted or not. Along with fingerprints and footprints.
And it should be guaranteed by law that one owns ones DNA and that ownership cannot be forfeited, rented, sold, or turned over to another person or entity, no matter what the circumstances are.
*** You may not care about advertisers, but if the effectiveness of TV ads diminishes, then the quantity and/or quality of TV content will also diminish. ***
The effectiveness of TV ads dimished a long time ago by sheer overkill. Everywhere I turn, I see commercials - on tv, on the subway, on the subway floor, in the newspaper, in the elevator, as background noise on the radio. It's gotten to the point where I am ignoring signs posted on doors as the subconscious thinks 'advertisement' - before it has even read the sign - and tells the forebrain to ignore the white square pasted on the glass in front of me.
The commercials come on tv? My first, overriding instinct, is to turn the channel. It's a major effort for me now to remain tuned to the same channel when the ads come on.
Click click click.
So I purchase dvd box sets. Cheap dvd box sets. And edit out commercials whenever I get the chance; whether by fastforward, skipping ahead 2 minutes, or channel change. Any tv show that prices its content too high does not get my dollar. If this means they go out of business, so be it.
Buyer beware? More like seller beware!
I owe them nothing.
Point 1: This isn't 'RIAA' music, this is Apple's music.
Point 2: This isn't making music 'free'. This stops DRM being added to music files downloaded from Apple. One can't download the files without paying for them.
Point 3: This isn't illegal. DRM isn't being circumvented, DRM isn't allowed to come into the picture at all.
Point 4: One can do the same damn thing by burning the music files to rewriteable cd's, then ripping them to mp3s. Surely you're not suggesting ripping cd's to mp3s is illegal.
Point 5: Using Bittorent, to download any damn file, is just asking for trouble. Once you start accessing p2p programs, you just know some freakin' legal accountant somewhere is keeping track of your activities, legal or otherwise, just waiting for an excuse, any excuse, to pounce.
I work rotating 12 hour shifts. The only way to survive 12 hour workdays is to live where you work. During lunch, instead of sitting down to eat, eat a sandwich and walk at the same time, climb stairs, anything. When you get home, SLEEP. If this irritates the significant other/kids, tough.
The article makes a lot of assumptions, provides no details, and is meant to be a two paragraph filler piece at best.
I wouldn't mind reading a good article about how broadband will kill off dvds, but this ain't it.
The drudge report did not bring up a pop up, but the Gurinder site brought up a blank advert in the middle of the page.
If you turn off javascript, Gurinder's hack no longer works.
I tried the pay-to-download services - in Canada it's called Puretracks.
... yep, the Puretracks ones. Ain't progress grand?
Guess which wmv files my portable Sony music player won't play
Look, dude, if I go to the trouble of PURCHASING a damn cd, it's because I want to rip the thing to mp3 and then listen to it. So long as I don't 'redistribute' the music, who freakin' cares!
Y'know, the music industry was saying that they didn't mind my having mp3s, so long as I didn't share 'em with 200 of my best friends; now they've changed their minds and are saying they mind my having mp3s, sharing or no sharing, and they're going to make it illegal to have mp3s.
I have no sympathy for 'em when their sales fall even further -- who the feck would buy their damn cds when it just gets you into feckin' trouble?
*** "The Norwegian government has shown a broad vision that is unique in Europe," said the group's secretary general Per Morten Hoff. He praised the law for recognizing the industry's right to protect copyrighted material. ***
...
Vision that is unique? LOL! With the currently changing markets for music formats - no one wants a portable cd player any more, everyone wants a portable mp3/wmv player - Norway's vision is ensuring either their population breaks the law, or sales of music cd's will plummet.
Their right to protect copyrighted material is going to be guaranteed by the time they're finished -- no one is going to be interested in the material at all by the time all those criminal convictions of illegal mp3 rippings take place.
Buy a music cd? Hell no, who needs the trouble that causes.
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you
From the article ...
**Walton's daughter, Robin Chianumba, lived with her mother for the last 17 years of her life and said her mother objected to having a computer in the house. Chianumba said she didn't know anything about the record company's claims. And she said she does not know anything about the screen name.
"My mother was computer illiterate. She hated a computer," Chianumba said. "My mother wouldn't know how to turn on a computer."**
At a glance, it looks like either the RIAA has made a huge mistake, or Walton's identity was stolen.
*** My only concern is how the DRM will impact this when the FCC's broadcast biut kicks in this summer. ***
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Check out pchdtv.com
They're advertising an over-the-air broadcasted HD card that ignores the broadcast flag. Slashdot reviewed the card awhile back in November. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/07/22322
I'm known amongst friends and family as being literate in the world of dvd recording, and more and more, whenever I get asked to make a recommendation on a dvd recorder, I'm telling folks to keep the VCR in good shape. You want to record something; pop in a videotape, hit record, and play it as many times as you want.
But the world of dvd recording is getting more and more freakin' complicated with the bottom line being 'you can record it, but it won't play.' Right now, the geniuses in Hollywood haven't hit that 'enable CPRM' button, but once they do, it'll make trying to make a dvd home recording of Show X next to impossible, and the prevalent view amongst home viewers will be 'the savvy money held onto their vcrs.'
Combine this with the new ATSC format; 'ma, if you want to keep watching the soaps, you either need one of them there converter boxes or buy a new tv. And don't forget, you gotta watch it live because we haven't figured out how to get the vcr to work with the new converter box;' and you're guaranteeing that folks are going to be strongly motivated to simply turn the boob tube off. They will NOT understand what's happening to the tv and will not be willing/able to afford the new gear. Combine this with tales from their neighbours/kids of how the new, expensive, home recording gear doesn't really work and needs a University degree to understand how to use, and no one will be willing to touch anything new. Not the televised formats, not the new tvs, not the new dvd recorders.
The entertaiment industry will have what they absolute want; either you watch the show live, or you purchase the dvd box set. But the market for electronic goodies will absolutely collapse.
Agreed.