...open source community fight fire with fire and:
Set up a standalone trust/charity/not for profit organisations
Patent various aspects of the OS code/world and any new stuff that's developed
Take out the patents in the major places (e.g. us/eu etc.)
Assign the patents to the above organisation
State that the software patents can only be used in OS products or have to be licenced from the above organisation
Team up with a bunch of laywers to tackle anyone who uses the patents without permission (no win no fee)
And fight, head-on, the bigger organsiation
The monies from licensing fee can then be used to develop/promote/move forward the OS community
Look the OS community has proved that we can write good software and fight hard when we need to. We have also shown that we can organise disperate people in various places, timezones, languages etc. and form them into a very effective development team. Now why don't we do the same for patents and a) protect ourselves and b) fight back!
Hell if anyone else is interested in helping I am more than happy to try and setup the organisations (UK or worldwide), e.g. do the leg work, talk to people etc..
Serious question time but in the culture of "litigate like mad", where do we stop?
This porn company is sueing bacause of copyright infringement, what next do we sue Google for next; because if you search for something you wrote, and someone else has stolen it without using your copyright (e.g. some software I wrote), or the GPL is being violated, etc... Then we *must* sue google for this crime. Do we have to appoint someone to check *every* google link?
If it is found that google is guity, then they have aided and abetied a crime.
Consider *any* terrorist who uses google to search for the group to join, who then go on to commit a 9/11 type attack. Do we sue google for aiding and abeting mass murder? Are the directors *personally* liable? Are the staff? Are the shareholders? Does the US put on trial, and if found guily, execute a few hundred/thousand/million people for their "part" in this crime? Or what happens if another school mass killing is found to have occured and the people who carried out the act used Goggle to find out information, or to find an ammo supplier etc..
Where do we draw the line with stupid litigation? When will people stand up and take responsability for *their* acts, *their* incompentances, *their* failings, rather than blaming others. Or when will the correct people be blamed for *their* acts rather than trying to off-load the blame onto others??
and breathe
Jaj - wondering when sense will prevail in the US courts.
.... But why are the majority of people[1] not suprised by this? when will we be suprised at something MS does[2]? The more I see of MS the more Antitrust looks like a training guide.
Jaj [1] "People" as in "the posters on/. rather than 'real' people":-] [2]Other than opensource windows.
Looking at the guy's facebook
site, "sexy engineer" is the last ajective I'd use
Apparently Huggy Bear has ordered one!
"Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." - Ian Malcolm (Jurassic park)
From RT Mark"The satirical website GWBush.com has received several million hits since a press conference Friday at which Texas governor and probable presidential candidate George W. Bush called its owner "a garbage man" and said "There ought to be limits to freedom." The outburst followed two separate attempts by Bush campaign attorneys to shut down the site."
Wonder if GWBush site got it's revenge:-]
Seriously wtf will blocking non-us people from seeing the site do other than cause massive publicity, many/. comments and numerous newspaper articles.
....to determine who wins is a no-holds barred, fight to the death. No problems with chad's, a brother's state, the man with the most number of votes losing, etc, etc..
Simply take both the candidates, lock them into a cage and have a gladitorial conflict to the death (or one quits).
That's why there are "back" and "home" buttons on your browser
Really wow, thanks for that had you not told me I'd never had know...
Grow a fucking pair of balls and realize that not every single story on/. is going to be posted specifically for *you*
Firstly you are assuming I am male, secondly i realise not *every* story on/. is for me but there is zero context to this story and ANYONE outside the us (approx 6 BILLION people) have NO idea what this story is about.
Sometimes, they're going to interest a group of people known as "not you."
Good point (the only one in your comments to be accurate). But misses the point that/. is a global brand, and so the stories shouldn't be insular, and put stories non-americans MAY be interested in, into context. Not hard, quite simple really... Infact when I posted a story about a Tidel energy farm I stated that "Lynmonth in North Devon (in the south west of the UK)". This helps people not from devon and the UK to know where a) devon is and b) where Lynmonth is.... This is what I mean by context.
It is working properly, you have failed to excercise discretion.
*sigh* An expression involving the words "pot" and "kettle" spring to mind. Let me explain the points to the, shall we say, americans
1) The ONLY link on the page takes you to a news story with no context. If you are from anywhere else on the planet (and for reference Americans make up about 5% (at most) of the population) you have no idea a) what the TV program is, b) what it is about and c) who the hell "ken" is d) what's so special about his/her feet and e) what he's doing. Now some people would put context onto posts like this, i don't know, links to the TV program website, links to other stories about this mysterious "ken" fella (note I am assuming that "ken" is male), links to other/. stories if applicable etc. But instead you get flamed by a twat
For future reference america, there are OTHER people, cultures, TV, etc on this planet. Please dump your american insular existence, realise there are others on this planet, and put stuff like this in context.
I apologise as this is, apparently, to much to much to ask of the/. community.
If I ever, at any stage, start feeling like an Ewok I will not be describing my life as good
Currently I would gladly swap my life with that of an Ewok. Current job (education) is paying (with lesson prep/marking etc..) less than the minimum wage, with threats from students, bad management, and very little life (doing 12 hour days of teaching inc weekends, no no really). So back into coding for me.
1) What do they mean by "shipped"? is this only the units sold by people like Redhat, IBM, etc.. Or does it take into account all the versions of Linux download and used? With Windows its easy to say "I have sold x many licences, therefore there are x many servers/users" but with Linux you cant - the numbers are likely to be a lot higher.
2) It's nice to see the SCO lawsuit had such a dramatic effect that the total number of unit of Linux sold has risen. 30+Million dollars of MS^H^H SCO/Venture capital money burnt, with no tangable benefits - other than cementing linux place in the world of IT.
I wonder how worried MS really is about this?
I get an inclining of how the Ewoks/rebels must have felt as the sole destroy, all encompassing, stiffling empire fell apart around them. *sigh* Sometimes life is good...
Is it just me or does this entire concept scare the bejesus out of you?
The fbi etal want, as a default option, the ability to listen in to ANY call made by VOIP. This means that, as standard, any/all calls can be monitored, any/everyone (even non-American people[1]) whenever they want or indefinatly.
Now people can say "yes but they wont", but as soon as the Intelligent Agencies[2] have this nice new toy how long before they start a) using it, b) exploiting it, and c) turn it off.
The more I see of the current democratic setup (not just american, but worldwide) and the security "advancements" (post 9/11), the more features of the old Russian Communists start appearing. It's as if the current terrorist threat is being used as justification for the crack-down on personal liberties. I'd protest, but I think that may be banned.
Jaj [1] Yes we do exist [2] One of the best oxymorons around
... you have to feel sorry for the employees of Google, if they take their share options now they have to choose - the flash cars _or_ the holiday home in Aspen, not both...
Why do they think double, tripling, or even a 1000 fold increase will mean people will by more Linux licenses?
I am now worried.... no, no please 'hear'[1] me out. Noone can be this/that stupid for this length of time. There must be something up their slieve, there must be hidden plans in the works, even if it's MS funded FUD, purely to slowdown Linux's momentum and cause confusion in simple-minded management, to give MS time to build a faster, better, more effective FUD system[2]. There must be.....
For crying out load even Saddam Hussain wasn't this stupid.
Jaj
[1]Or to be accurate 'read' [2] Effective FUD is cheaper, and more profitable, than good software.
Ken Livinstone, the current Major of London, can be a bit of a prat sometimes, but other times he has a point. When did voting (by all the people in the country), alone, last change something?
In the UK the 'opinions', and I use the term in the looses sense of the meaning, between the two main parties are almost identical. It's becoming like the US (or how the US is portried in the UK), of "(s)he with the most money" or "(s)he who is most photogenic" will be elected
It could be worse, much worse, but the present system of politics dominated by large corporations, almost buying their way (or their cronies way) into power cannot be good, in the long run, for the average Joe on the street
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- Set up a standalone trust/charity/not for profit organisations
- Patent various aspects of the OS code/world and any new stuff that's developed
- Take out the patents in the major places (e.g. us/eu etc.)
- Assign the patents to the above organisation
- State that the software patents can only be used in OS products or have to be licenced from the above organisation
- Team up with a bunch of laywers to tackle anyone who uses the patents without permission (no win no fee)
- And fight, head-on, the bigger organsiation
The monies from licensing fee can then be used to develop/promote/move forward the OS communityLook the OS community has proved that we can write good software and fight hard when we need to. We have also shown that we can organise disperate people in various places, timezones, languages etc. and form them into a very effective development team. Now why don't we do the same for patents and a) protect ourselves and b) fight back!
Hell if anyone else is interested in helping I am more than happy to try and setup the organisations (UK or worldwide), e.g. do the leg work, talk to people etc..
what do people think?
Jaj
Serious question time but in the culture of "litigate like mad", where do we stop?
This porn company is sueing bacause of copyright infringement, what next do we sue Google for next; because if you search for something you wrote, and someone else has stolen it without using your copyright (e.g. some software I wrote), or the GPL is being violated, etc... Then we *must* sue google for this crime. Do we have to appoint someone to check *every* google link?
If it is found that google is guity, then they have aided and abetied a crime.
Consider *any* terrorist who uses google to search for the group to join, who then go on to commit a 9/11 type attack. Do we sue google for aiding and abeting mass murder? Are the directors *personally* liable? Are the staff? Are the shareholders? Does the US put on trial, and if found guily, execute a few hundred/thousand/million people for their "part" in this crime? Or what happens if another school mass killing is found to have occured and the people who carried out the act used Goggle to find out information, or to find an ammo supplier etc..
Where do we draw the line with stupid litigation? When will people stand up and take responsability for *their* acts, *their* incompentances, *their* failings, rather than blaming others. Or when will the correct people be blamed for *their* acts rather than trying to off-load the blame onto others??
and breathe
Jaj - wondering when sense will prevail in the US courts.
... but viewing over the web, and it somehow loses the quality :-]
....
/. rather than 'real' people" :-]
But why are the majority of people[1] not suprised by this? when will we be suprised at something MS does[2]? The more I see of MS the more Antitrust looks like a training guide.
Jaj
[1] "People" as in "the posters on
[2]Other than opensource windows.
errr what? "Sexy engineer" or " sexysciencegirl " :-]
with tongue firmly in cheek
Jaj
the link wasn't working so I'll try again!
Pot signing out
Jaj
Looking at the guy's facebook site, "sexy engineer" is the last ajective I'd use
Apparently Huggy Bear has ordered one!
"Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." - Ian Malcolm (Jurassic park)
Jaj
See the bbc story
Nice to see Firefox is getting the press it deserves
Jaj
From RT Mark "The satirical website GWBush.com has received several million hits since a press conference Friday at which Texas governor and probable presidential candidate George W. Bush called its owner "a garbage man" and said "There ought to be limits to freedom." The outburst followed two separate attempts by Bush campaign attorneys to shut down the site."
:-]
/. comments and numerous newspaper articles.
Wonder if GWBush site got it's revenge
Seriously wtf will blocking non-us people from seeing the site do other than cause massive publicity, many
Jaj
Sometimes you REALLY couldn't make it up.
...I'm using windows and it hasn't cra
....to determine who wins is a no-holds barred, fight to the death. No problems with chad's, a brother's state, the man with the most number of votes losing, etc, etc..
Simply take both the candidates, lock them into a cage and have a gladitorial conflict to the death (or one quits).
I'm waiting for the Jessie/arnie showdown
with tongue firmly in cheek
Jaj
I would kill to be able to vote in this election
Why kill? Buy a vote on ebay.
Jaj
That's why there are "back" and "home" buttons on your browser
/. is going to be posted specifically for *you*
/. is for me but there is zero context to this story and ANYONE outside the us (approx 6 BILLION people) have NO idea what this story is about.
/. is a global brand, and so the stories shouldn't be insular, and put stories non-americans MAY be interested in, into context. Not hard, quite simple really... Infact when I posted a story about a Tidel energy farm I stated that "Lynmonth in North Devon (in the south west of the UK)". This helps people not from devon and the UK to know where a) devon is and b) where Lynmonth is.... This is what I mean by context.
/. stories if applicable etc. But instead you get flamed by a twat
/. community.
Really wow, thanks for that had you not told me I'd never had know...
Grow a fucking pair of balls and realize that not every single story on
Firstly you are assuming I am male, secondly i realise not *every* story on
Sometimes, they're going to interest a group of people known as "not you."
Good point (the only one in your comments to be accurate). But misses the point that
It is working properly, you have failed to excercise discretion.
*sigh* An expression involving the words "pot" and "kettle" spring to mind. Let me explain the points to the, shall we say, americans
1) The ONLY link on the page takes you to a news story with no context. If you are from anywhere else on the planet (and for reference Americans make up about 5% (at most) of the population) you have no idea a) what the TV program is, b) what it is about and c) who the hell "ken" is d) what's so special about his/her feet and e) what he's doing. Now some people would put context onto posts like this, i don't know, links to the TV program website, links to other stories about this mysterious "ken" fella (note I am assuming that "ken" is male), links to other
For future reference america, there are OTHER people, cultures, TV, etc on this planet. Please dump your american insular existence, realise there are others on this planet, and put stuff like this in context.
I apologise as this is, apparently, to much to much to ask of the
Jaj
but the majority of people outside the US are unlikely to have any idea what this is all about.
Jaj
If I ever, at any stage, start feeling like an Ewok I will not be describing my life as good
Currently I would gladly swap my life with that of an Ewok. Current job (education) is paying (with lesson prep/marking etc..) less than the minimum wage, with threats from students, bad management, and very little life (doing 12 hour days of teaching inc weekends, no no really). So back into coding for me.
Jaj
1) What do they mean by "shipped"? is this only the units sold by people like Redhat, IBM, etc.. Or does it take into account all the versions of Linux download and used? With Windows its easy to say "I have sold x many licences, therefore there are x many servers/users" but with Linux you cant - the numbers are likely to be a lot higher.
2) It's nice to see the SCO lawsuit had such a dramatic effect that the total number of unit of Linux sold has risen. 30+Million dollars of MS^H^H SCO/Venture capital money burnt, with no tangable benefits - other than cementing linux place in the world of IT.
I wonder how worried MS really is about this?
I get an inclining of how the Ewoks/rebels must have felt as the sole destroy, all encompassing, stiffling empire fell apart around them. *sigh* Sometimes life is good...
Jaj
Is it just me or does this entire concept scare the bejesus out of you?
The fbi etal want, as a default option, the ability to listen in to ANY call made by VOIP. This means that, as standard, any/all calls can be monitored, any/everyone (even non-American people[1]) whenever they want or indefinatly.
Now people can say "yes but they wont", but as soon as the Intelligent Agencies[2] have this nice new toy how long before they start a) using it, b) exploiting it, and c) turn it off.
The more I see of the current democratic setup (not just american, but worldwide) and the security "advancements" (post 9/11), the more features of the old Russian Communists start appearing. It's as if the current terrorist threat is being used as justification for the crack-down on personal liberties. I'd protest, but I think that may be banned.
Jaj
[1] Yes we do exist
[2] One of the best oxymorons around
... you have to feel sorry for the employees of Google, if they take their share options now they have to choose - the flash cars _or_ the holiday home in Aspen, not both...
:-]
It must be so demoralising for them
Jaj
In no way bitter.....
Are SCO really this stupid?
Why do they think double, tripling, or even a 1000 fold increase will mean people will by more Linux licenses?
I am now worried.... no, no please 'hear'[1] me out. Noone can be this/that stupid for this length of time. There must be something up their slieve, there must be hidden plans in the works, even if it's MS funded FUD, purely to slowdown Linux's momentum and cause confusion in simple-minded management, to give MS time to build a faster, better, more effective FUD system[2]. There must be.....
For crying out load even Saddam Hussain wasn't this stupid.
Jaj
[1]Or to be accurate 'read'
[2] Effective FUD is cheaper, and more profitable, than good software.
If voting changed anything, they'd abolish it
Ken Livinstone, the current Major of London, can be a bit of a prat sometimes, but other times he has a point. When did voting (by all the people in the country), alone, last change something?
In the UK the 'opinions', and I use the term in the looses sense of the meaning, between the two main parties are almost identical. It's becoming like the US (or how the US is portried in the UK), of "(s)he with the most money" or "(s)he who is most photogenic" will be elected
It could be worse, much worse, but the present system of politics dominated by large corporations, almost buying their way (or their cronies way) into power cannot be good, in the long run, for the average Joe on the street
Jaj
Iraq is downloading communism! Torvalds for president! Stallman for information minister!
And I assume McBride for the Disinformation Minister
:-]
Jaj
You can now make friends and be aware of people on the web!
....checks google....
So I now can order food, beer, Geek toys, clothes, make friends, work and interact - all without leaving my home.
Now if I could just be able to order sex, I can brickup my front door....
Just found out that all my needs are now catered for.....
Bricks are being delivered monday!
:^]
Jaj
The truth is, there are even some sex acts between consenting adults that are still illegal in the UK
For example S&M acts between consenting adults is illegal (see the Spanner website).
There has been cases in the UK where people have been found guily of GBH (wounding a person) when the act was 100% consenting!
IANAL I would assume all images depicting said acts would likely be illegal
Jaj
BA is a bachelor of Art. Its a bullshit degree
I'd disagree. In the UK a BA is an arts degree equivelent to the BSc (both are bachelors degrees).
However Hull Poly is not, how shall we put in, in an Ivy League, more of 2nd tier uni.
I am not slagging off Hull Poly, but it doesn't rate with Oxford, Cambridge, UNIMIST, Durham, Imperial etc..
Jaj
So we're going to have a system that is derailed by a few tears and fluttering eyelashes?"
:-]
Yeap its called my love life
Jaj