I find it weird that both the author and yourself are having issues with Camino. I haven't had it crash since the Chimera days, and although I'm not running the nightly builds, I do update whenever possible (not that there has been all that many updates so far).
If Firebird and Camino get mushed together, I'm guessing the results will be disappointing. Mozilla (the OS X version) is bloated and will never grace my machine again. Firebird runs nicely, but doesn't really have much on Camino in terms of UI responsiveness and "look-and-feel".
I'm in the midst of organizing my camino bookmarks into Safari, and once that's done I'll probably use it more often.
Agreed, I think Dvorak is for the most part a despicable human being with no shred of morals, and his math is usually about as accurate as the RIAAs, but is this really that big a deal?
In other words, you wouldn't put the number (since gates didn't mention it) closer to the top side of the scale? Say, 60-80% perhaps? I think that's a safe estimate and seems realistic.
I have written more than ten really good songs, and that was just for my first punk band's album. We sold over 500 copies of a homemade tape (cover printed on a Mac IIci and StyleWriter) and were extremely well-received wherever we played.
Bands that hire someone else to write their songs, or purchase "their" songs from a songwriter, are not worth yours or my time, nor the label's.
final result is a buggy, slow, monolithic application.
That's fine, although I haven't found that to be true on my OOo install. Why is that fine? MS Office is still (and will continue to be) more buggy, slower, and much more bloated.
John Calhoun (author of Glider PRO) used to use a nude as his logo back in his Soft Dorothy Software days ---
That was in the first Glider. Inspired by thoughts of the boss cat clawing my plane out of the air, I opened it in ResEdit on one of my old machines (a IIci) and grabbed the PICTs.. copy and "Create New Document from Clipboard" in GraphicConverter. Over the LocalTalk network to my Power Mac 7500, then over ethernet to my G4 and the web, here's the pics for your enjoyment.
and here's the loading screen (the girl in the image, quite beautiful, ended up on one of my early bands' tape covers, no worries John, it was never sold): Soft Dorothy Software
The exploit didn't work on my machine for a while (Dual 450 G4), but then I found that I was able to crash the screensaver and 2 other apps. Keep trying, my system specs are the same as yours. Who knows, maybe it's just those of us who have installed some "haxie" or something.. we should know soon, either way.
you can remove the $100 or so (CAN$129) you put on for Appleworks and use ThinkFree, OpenOffice.org or StarOffice (free?).. all work seamlessly with Word and Excel files, but Thinkfree Office is by far the best at the job, with AppleWorks 6.2.4 not far behind.
Really.. no Power Mac (desktop) owner is going to buy AppleWorks.. and we really don't want Word.
So much for getting the smart ones to switch!
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Glad you bought a Mac, but you are seriously misinformed. I'll let the AC who doesn't get to normally be seen have a voice first:
" That, and professionals who use their Macs to make money. (Multimedia creators, architects, etc.)
iBooks and iMacs will still be around for people with more modest needs. These are the machines they are selling to the power users."
-AC
As for myself, I'm not so sure you're aware of exactly what the "competition" consists of.. seems that you think the build-to-order Windows machines on Dell's site are the competition. Apple's market is much more broad than just Windows users.
We want a machine that will enhance us in some way, to let us be productive instead of getting in our way as we go about our use of the tool that is in the end just a computer.
Whether it's audio, film, science, coding, or any of the numerous jobs/applications that these Macs will do, they do and run them at blistering speeds, and hold their value for a long time.
see, my big issue is that I can't stand to listen to anything less then 320 kbps (mp3), if not an 8- or 16-bit/22/44.1 KHz aiffs or wavs..
I really don't like the sound of the high-bitrate oggs, which is very unfortunate, since I very much want to support the format.
The worst part is, (other than ripping my own AACs from my DVDs/CDs and my own music) I can't hear what these supposedly-ripped-from-masters AACs sound like!
You see, I live in the Great White North.
So if and when the service comes to Canada, I will be sure to check it out. ..hopefully they'll have higher bitrates available at that time.
The silver lining? I purchased a happy new 7200 rpm 80GB drive yesterday to replace my 30GB and complement my 60GB, with the purchase of a Firewire enclosure looming in the very near future for the drive without a home. Ahh.. room to breathe.
Last word? I don't want to search for AACs or mp4s on any file sharing programs, as I very much want to pay for good (sounding) music. If it must be compressed for the retail cost (argued for a loong time by the labels, I'm sure) to not soar to what we now see as stupid prices, then I pray that the available bitrate goes up and the service becomes available to a few more countries.
"Macheads with the computer world so very Windows focused why do you still buy macs?"
...are you serious? Have you used windows? Have you used a mac? It's the better choice for me, one that doesn't get in my way, doesn't bug me for drivers for my digital camera, and most certainly DOES NOT have a new security hole discovered every week.
It basically comes down to function. What do you use the machine for? A mac (running OS X) will let you do all the terminal/unix stuff, install almost any OSS (via Fink), run Windows 98/2000/XP in Virtual PC (if you must), and be doing a multitude of other things, all simultaneously, without the OS having so much as a hiccup.
I can do these things (and more, running VPC w/Win98SE, Apple's X11 w/xmms, browsing, serving [built-in apache as well as a carracho server], running 2 messaging programs, a P2P app, my mail program, and Dreamweaver MX and Photoshop 7 are running in the background, hidden for now) This is all being done on a dual 450 MHz G4, with 512 MB of RAM.. it's unbelievable that this machine has more or less kept up to date on its own, through careful planning by apple for their unique hardware/software mix.
hmm.. here's the list of my top labels that came to mind immediately..
Epitaph
Alternative Tentacles
Stomp
Dischord
Ipecac
Fat Wreck Chords
hehe none of them seem to be on the list.. but there were a few surprises.. among the Righteous Babe Records, Ani DiFranco's label, the DIY inspiration for so many.. sad to see her on there.
I'm referring to all you Flash "developers" that can't get a grasp on Director. Director / Shockwave has all the abilities of Flash, plus a ton more. It could easily do what this new program does.
So sad to see Macromedia pandering even more to idiots that already fill the web with their poor use of Flash.
I find it weird that both the author and yourself are having issues with Camino. I haven't had it crash since the Chimera days, and although I'm not running the nightly builds, I do update whenever possible (not that there has been all that many updates so far).
If Firebird and Camino get mushed together, I'm guessing the results will be disappointing. Mozilla (the OS X version) is bloated and will never grace my machine again. Firebird runs nicely, but doesn't really have much on Camino in terms of UI responsiveness and "look-and-feel".
I'm in the midst of organizing my camino bookmarks into Safari, and once that's done I'll probably use it more often.
your video board will hopefully hold out past this year.
Agreed, I think Dvorak is for the most part a despicable human being with no shred of morals, and his math is usually about as accurate as the RIAAs, but is this really that big a deal?
In other words, you wouldn't put the number (since gates didn't mention it) closer to the top side of the scale? Say, 60-80% perhaps? I think that's a safe estimate and seems realistic.
I have written more than ten really good songs, and that was just for my first punk band's album. We sold over 500 copies of a homemade tape (cover printed on a Mac IIci and StyleWriter) and were extremely well-received wherever we played.
Bands that hire someone else to write their songs, or purchase "their" songs from a songwriter, are not worth yours or my time, nor the label's.
But sales of singles have declined much more rapidly than album sales.
Sales of singles don't exist for the most part. They have declined b/c they are not for sale.
final result is a buggy, slow, monolithic application.
That's fine, although I haven't found that to be true on my OOo install. Why is that fine?
MS Office is still (and will continue to be) more buggy, slower, and much more bloated.
Washing powder?
That's a terrible analogy, and doesn't even fit. As well, that was not a very good recovery from your foot-in-mouth disease.
John Calhoun (author of Glider PRO) used to use a nude as his logo back in his Soft Dorothy Software days
---
That was in the first Glider. Inspired by thoughts of the boss cat clawing my plane out of the air, I opened it in ResEdit on one of my old machines (a IIci) and grabbed the PICTs.. copy and "Create New Document from Clipboard" in GraphicConverter. Over the LocalTalk network to my Power Mac 7500, then over ethernet to my G4 and the web, here's the pics for your enjoyment.
The info screen,
and here's the loading screen (the girl in the image, quite beautiful, ended up on one of my early bands' tape covers, no worries John, it was never sold): Soft Dorothy Software
"most "nerds" don't own a Mac either."
:)
True, but they wish they did.
OS X users -
Mail.app - double-click on the seperator bar between your mail and the preview window to toggle its visibility.
Entourage - Type Command-\ to toggle the preview window.
They don't like Family Guy.
The exploit didn't work on my machine for a while (Dual 450 G4), but then I found that I was able to crash the screensaver and 2 other apps. Keep trying, my system specs are the same as yours. Who knows, maybe it's just those of us who have installed some "haxie" or something.. we should know soon, either way.
you can remove the $100 or so (CAN$129) you put on for Appleworks and use ThinkFree, OpenOffice.org or StarOffice (free?).. all work seamlessly with Word and Excel files, but Thinkfree Office is by far the best at the job, with AppleWorks 6.2.4 not far behind.
Really.. no Power Mac (desktop) owner is going to buy AppleWorks.. and we really don't want Word.
Glad you bought a Mac, but you are seriously misinformed. I'll let the AC who doesn't get to normally be seen have a voice first:
" That, and professionals who use their Macs to make money. (Multimedia creators, architects, etc.)
iBooks and iMacs will still be around for people with more modest needs. These are the machines they are selling to the power users."
-AC
As for myself, I'm not so sure you're aware of exactly what the "competition" consists of.. seems that you think the build-to-order Windows machines on Dell's site are the competition. Apple's market is much more broad than just Windows users.
We want a machine that will enhance us in some way, to let us be productive instead of getting in our way as we go about our use of the tool that is in the end just a computer.
Whether it's audio, film, science, coding, or any of the numerous jobs/applications that these Macs will do, they do and run them at blistering speeds, and hold their value for a long time.
port it to Mac and I'll let you know how it plays over Gigabit Ethernet..
Hear, hear. Learn the OS a bit. Buy the Mac OS X Hints book. Print people, you will have to learn, sooner or later.
Though I am buying a newer powermac that will boot 9, I don't run it for anything more than Poser, a light 3D program.
must..not..reply..to..sig!
definitely choice number 2: proprietary OS on proprietary hardware. For the most part, the Mac has been reliable and headache-free for this reason.
..and I thought I was going to be part of the next wave of terrorism.. pot smokers!
;)
It's weird, though, I always see us as peacekeepers once Bob has entered the room
see, my big issue is that I can't stand to listen to anything less then 320 kbps (mp3), if not an 8- or 16-bit /22/44.1 KHz aiffs or wavs..
I really don't like the sound of the high-bitrate oggs, which is very unfortunate, since I very much want to support the format.
The worst part is, (other than ripping my own AACs from my DVDs/CDs and my own music) I can't hear what these supposedly-ripped-from-masters AACs sound like! You see, I live in the Great White North.
So if and when the service comes to Canada, I will be sure to check it out.
..hopefully they'll have higher bitrates available at that time.
The silver lining? I purchased a happy new 7200 rpm 80GB drive yesterday to replace my 30GB and complement my 60GB, with the purchase of a Firewire enclosure looming in the very near future for the drive without a home. Ahh.. room to breathe.
Last word? I don't want to search for AACs or mp4s on any file sharing programs, as I very much want to pay for good (sounding) music. If it must be compressed for the retail cost (argued for a loong time by the labels, I'm sure) to not soar to what we now see as stupid prices, then I pray that the available bitrate goes up and the service becomes available to a few more countries.
Played for about 20 minutes, it's pretty different!
Check it out, it's a nice break from all the arcade games out now..and getting the code is a nice bonus.
"Macheads with the computer world so very Windows focused why do you still buy macs?"
...are you serious? Have you used windows? Have you used a mac? It's the better choice for me, one that doesn't get in my way, doesn't bug me for drivers for my digital camera, and most certainly DOES NOT have a new security hole discovered every week.
It basically comes down to function. What do you use the machine for? A mac (running OS X) will let you do all the terminal/unix stuff, install almost any OSS (via Fink), run Windows 98/2000/XP in Virtual PC (if you must), and be doing a multitude of other things, all simultaneously, without the OS having so much as a hiccup.
I can do these things (and more, running VPC w/Win98SE, Apple's X11 w/xmms, browsing, serving [built-in apache as well as a carracho server], running 2 messaging programs, a P2P app, my mail program, and Dreamweaver MX and Photoshop 7 are running in the background, hidden for now)
This is all being done on a dual 450 MHz G4, with 512 MB of RAM.. it's unbelievable that this machine has more or less kept up to date on its own, through careful planning by apple for their unique hardware/software mix.
true. along with jello's label (AT) ian's was the one i least expected to see on there.. :)
great interview.
hmm.. here's the list of my top labels that came to mind immediately..
Epitaph
Alternative Tentacles
Stomp
Dischord
Ipecac
Fat Wreck Chords
hehe none of them seem to be on the list.. but there were a few surprises.. among the Righteous Babe Records, Ani DiFranco's label, the DIY inspiration for so many.. sad to see her on there.
Guess it does..
US $29.95 to be exact..
Does it have enough unique features to compete with any of the freeware browsers?
(other than for those who can't/won't download, and would buy a boxed browser)
I'm reading more about it now, and might try the trial version.
I'm referring to all you Flash "developers" that can't get a grasp on Director. Director / Shockwave has all the abilities of Flash, plus a ton more. It could easily do what this new program does.
So sad to see Macromedia pandering even more to idiots that already fill the web with their poor use of Flash.