I work in used stuff (vintage, antiques, etc.) and the price of 1930s high school yearbooks is quite interesting. I guess Google's future rights to sell access to dead people's images is a good investment. If I'm really bothered by it I can buy shares in Google or start my own depository. I just hope each time Disney and Friends gets congress to further extend their exclusive rights to Disney creations like Pocahontas and Sleeping Beauty, that we'll also get the copyright to our "data mine" extended, so I can freeze my head like Uncle Walt and enjoy the proceeds as much as he will when they defrost him.
The problem with your analysis is 1) there never was data ten years ago, 2) the "report" from ten years ago is still being circulated as "fact" in 2013, 3) African geeks (who fly to EU to buy the TVs and CRT computer monitors, etc.) are being profiled and arrested NOW. See Interpol 2013 press release on the arrests of 40 Africans in Europe. http://retroworks.blogspot.com/2013/03/reuse-while-black-presumed-guilty.html
The NGO's are promoting passage of a law (through a "big shred" industry group, CAER), which seems to be the "self reported by industry" smoking gun. CAER also published the phony data in 2013, see link to CAER "study" (repeating claim that 80% of exports are dumped) http://retroworks.blogspot.com/2013/03/caer-is-wrong-about-e-waste-just-wrong.html
So, believe it or not, most of the anger at BAN and Greenpeace is from Environmentalists and Peace Corps volunteers, like myself. I grew up in the deep South USA, and would compare the firehose of disinformation by these NGOs to the firefighters in Birgmingham Alabama, who used their water to hose down civil rights marchers. The firefighters in Birmingham were not "bad people", and I don't "attack them". But Africans are getting arrested despite detailed studies of the goods they import into Africa which find higher reuse rates than brand new product sold there. That seems to me more than a little ridiculous, and entirely pathetic. Are you ok with the Interpol arrests based on the 80-90% "primitive dumping" number? Should the Board of Directors of Greenpeace feel at peace with it?
Here is a link to the studies, funded by the United Nations Environmental Programme and the Basel Convention Secretariat... who I guess you consider to be "people who export E-Waste" (sources of the studies)
Oh, and the 9% fallout, that's less than brand new product, according to the Electrostatic Discharge Journal, and less than California store returns (11.9%). But just keep arresting those African polluters (http://retroworks.blogspot.com/2013/03/reuse-while-black-presumed-guilty.html), and lobbying for a bill in Congress to make the exports illegal.
Extended warranties were always bad, until I tried one for a new technology, flat screen monitors. I bought a 17" which failed, and when it failed, Best Retailer had no 17" to replace it with, and replaced it with a 19". When that failed, and I went back, they had to replace it with a 23". Now, if I'd put the money in a piggy bank, the money would have gone farther towards buying a 23" than it did in 2006... so some of this is false economy. But the screens also became more dependable and failed less. I also paid for extended warranty on the "second screen", a flat Sony LCD, in 2007. It still works fine.
A chum in my science seminar class hacked into the principal's office phone, so we could listen to him from the classroom whenever we wanted. When it was close to graduation, he got bored and patched the phone line into the school public address speakers, so all day his calls were broadcast in every classroom (they figured it out and he stopped using his phone after an hour or so).
After lunch, the principal called our buddy up to the office. He asked him "Do you by any chance know something about this?" Our buddy said "Yep." Principal said, "Just go fix it and we won't ask any more questions, ok?" He did, and that was that, no call to his parents or anything.
Now in the early 1950s, when my DAD was in high school, they just led a cow upstairs and locked it in the bathroom (Cows can walk up stairs better than they walk down). It's pretty easy to imagine the same kids pulling the same kind of pranks with the technology of the day.
Seems to me wiping it will do more harm than good. In Africa, where refrigerators were scarce, we would put damp cloth on our beer bottles. The evaporation of the water chilled the beer pretty nicely.
German 3Sat.de television did a great story on how many Germans believe that people who buy used tech, especially Africans, must be burning them. Five studies ( posted here on/.) from organizations like Basel Convention Secretariat, IDC, USITC, etc. show that 85%-90% of used equipment purchased by Africans is reused in internet cafes, hospitals, and schools. But "Westerners" (in this case Germans) are so afraid of being accused of dumping they shred the equipment (forcing African geeks to buy in back alleys). This is just another example of a decade old defamation campaign about reuse.
A good organization serving as an "anti defamation league" for geeks of color http://www.fairtraderecycling.org/ has links to the 2011 German video, showing how German environmentalists would have kept the Green Revolution / Arab spring from ever happening.
45% of all toxics released by all USA industry come from hard rock metal mining. 14 of the 15 largest Superfund Sites are hard rock mines. Mining of tanatalum for electronics (coltan) is responsible for the disappearance of half of the lowland gorillas. It kind of bothers me when "environmentalists" have zero depth perception, no ability at all to prioritize risks.
The cost of the video is so high because they haven't achieved a scale of production. We need them to produce entire series of Star Trek, then IRS Voyager, Next Generation Income Tax... then Star Wars, Mission Impossible, etc If enough auditors spend enough time producing enough of these videos, the cost per video will go down, which means the "rate of increase" of IRS spending on videos could go down.
At least until the auditing period for the 1040 I'm working on today is expired. Then pull the plug.
In the future, everyone will be a billionaire for 15 minutes, until their ill-gained 15 minute life savings is phished by the next billionaire. The bank account hijack will rotate around and around, shared by everyone in the world, boosting all our credit ratings... momentarily.
I was just puzzling this morning at the restaurant sign... how exactly I would order my hot pancake breakfast and coffee, or ice cream sundae, online? Tonight I read I can walk down the aisles at Google to find my search at the shopping mall. Is this what dementia feels like?
BINGO. Japan and the USA gave up on defending displays over 20 years ago, depending on software as the chip technology leaked away.
And I tire of the Slashdot anti-Asian chatter, sounds like the old men who complained about selling "scraps to Japs" in the recycling business in the 1960s, as if Japanese steel mills use of USA scrap in the 1960s had something to do with WWII. That may sound off topic, but if you are my age you remember all the anti Japanese drum beating, how threatening Japan was to the USA.
I live on a street where I am happy if my neighbors are doing well, improving their houses, their children doing well in school. Having my neighbors do better raises the value of my property, and the potential friendship my kids will find in the neighborhood. Having the world do better works the same way.
The number of topical new discoveries that I can imagine putting "i" in front of, or Android versions of, is amazing. Or the other way, imagine a Johnny Cash song about it. The "ground" is every direction from the obvious. If "groundbreaking" means "outside the expected", the capacity of Mankind to anticipate only the obvious is enormous.
Drag away. What they should be measuring is the amount of caffeine that is going into the water table from urine. At that point, it's actually affecting someone else, second hand, and may actually be appropriate to regulate.
And stop going on the internet, and stop listening to music, and read old books... Do I owe anything to current millionaires for getting bored with them?
http://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs/engineering-design-problems/rohs/ The replacement of leaded solder with tin-silver solder was bad for the environment (while the leaded solder was "toxic", the process to remove tin and silver - the replacements - is far more toxic, so the pollution was diverted from western controlled landfills of the future to coral mining islands of the present). But if it turns out to cause planes to drop from the sky (see concerns over "tin whiskers"), it will prove worse. I don't know that the Boeing problem is related to the ROHS circuit, but (per the link above) defense aeronautics engineers refused to comply with it based on concerns cited.
Every time I need to buy a ticket to Havana or unlock a phone, it's a quick trip over the border and back. Since they didn't make POSSESSION of an unlocked phone a crime, it's pretty easy to alibi.
And that "Jump" was from an audit of the second year Apple did the study, 2011. For 2012, "According to Apple's new report, the company didn't find any cases of underage workers at its final assembly suppliers in 2012". Of the subcontractors audited, only one was a serious violator, and that company was terminated as a supplier to Apple. My conclusion is that all of this Slashdot hyperbole and handwringing over Chinese supply chain is kinda 2003. 74 cases out of tens of thousands, concentrated at one subcontractor, which probably had a handful of bad managers. I don't think this is 1850 England we are discussing, this is closer to 1970 Bentonville Arkansas.
Time passes faster when you're having fun. If we have a limited number of heartbeats, the trick is to stay as miserable as possible, so that the time will pass more slowly.
Disney linked to recycling very old tales? 3D Pics, or it didn't happen!
I work in used stuff (vintage, antiques, etc.) and the price of 1930s high school yearbooks is quite interesting. I guess Google's future rights to sell access to dead people's images is a good investment. If I'm really bothered by it I can buy shares in Google or start my own depository. I just hope each time Disney and Friends gets congress to further extend their exclusive rights to Disney creations like Pocahontas and Sleeping Beauty, that we'll also get the copyright to our "data mine" extended, so I can freeze my head like Uncle Walt and enjoy the proceeds as much as he will when they defrost him.
He's suely lost the trail by announcing Iceland, Cuba and Venezuela as destinations, as good as gone.
Anything, anything which brings javascript closer to fluidity. Maybe Google should join too.
Ragica,
The problem with your analysis is 1) there never was data ten years ago, 2) the "report" from ten years ago is still being circulated as "fact" in 2013, 3) African geeks (who fly to EU to buy the TVs and CRT computer monitors, etc.) are being profiled and arrested NOW. See Interpol 2013 press release on the arrests of 40 Africans in Europe. http://retroworks.blogspot.com/2013/03/reuse-while-black-presumed-guilty.html
The NGO's are promoting passage of a law (through a "big shred" industry group, CAER), which seems to be the "self reported by industry" smoking gun. CAER also published the phony data in 2013, see link to CAER "study" (repeating claim that 80% of exports are dumped) http://retroworks.blogspot.com/2013/03/caer-is-wrong-about-e-waste-just-wrong.html
So, believe it or not, most of the anger at BAN and Greenpeace is from Environmentalists and Peace Corps volunteers, like myself. I grew up in the deep South USA, and would compare the firehose of disinformation by these NGOs to the firefighters in Birgmingham Alabama, who used their water to hose down civil rights marchers. The firefighters in Birmingham were not "bad people", and I don't "attack them". But Africans are getting arrested despite detailed studies of the goods they import into Africa which find higher reuse rates than brand new product sold there. That seems to me more than a little ridiculous, and entirely pathetic. Are you ok with the Interpol arrests based on the 80-90% "primitive dumping" number? Should the Board of Directors of Greenpeace feel at peace with it?
Dear Anonymous Coward:
Here is a link to the studies, funded by the United Nations Environmental Programme and the Basel Convention Secretariat... who I guess you consider to be "people who export E-Waste" (sources of the studies)
http://www.basel.int/Implementation/TechnicalAssistance/EWaste/EwasteAfricaProject/Publications/tabid/2553/Default.aspx
Oh, and the 9% fallout, that's less than brand new product, according to the Electrostatic Discharge Journal, and less than California store returns (11.9%). But just keep arresting those African polluters (http://retroworks.blogspot.com/2013/03/reuse-while-black-presumed-guilty.html), and lobbying for a bill in Congress to make the exports illegal.
Extended warranties were always bad, until I tried one for a new technology, flat screen monitors. I bought a 17" which failed, and when it failed, Best Retailer had no 17" to replace it with, and replaced it with a 19". When that failed, and I went back, they had to replace it with a 23". Now, if I'd put the money in a piggy bank, the money would have gone farther towards buying a 23" than it did in 2006... so some of this is false economy. But the screens also became more dependable and failed less. I also paid for extended warranty on the "second screen", a flat Sony LCD, in 2007. It still works fine.
A chum in my science seminar class hacked into the principal's office phone, so we could listen to him from the classroom whenever we wanted. When it was close to graduation, he got bored and patched the phone line into the school public address speakers, so all day his calls were broadcast in every classroom (they figured it out and he stopped using his phone after an hour or so).
After lunch, the principal called our buddy up to the office. He asked him "Do you by any chance know something about this?" Our buddy said "Yep." Principal said, "Just go fix it and we won't ask any more questions, ok?" He did, and that was that, no call to his parents or anything.
Now in the early 1950s, when my DAD was in high school, they just led a cow upstairs and locked it in the bathroom (Cows can walk up stairs better than they walk down). It's pretty easy to imagine the same kids pulling the same kind of pranks with the technology of the day.
Seems to me wiping it will do more harm than good. In Africa, where refrigerators were scarce, we would put damp cloth on our beer bottles. The evaporation of the water chilled the beer pretty nicely.
German 3Sat.de television did a great story on how many Germans believe that people who buy used tech, especially Africans, must be burning them. Five studies ( posted here on /.) from organizations like Basel Convention Secretariat, IDC, USITC, etc. show that 85%-90% of used equipment purchased by Africans is reused in internet cafes, hospitals, and schools. But "Westerners" (in this case Germans) are so afraid of being accused of dumping they shred the equipment (forcing African geeks to buy in back alleys). This is just another example of a decade old defamation campaign about reuse.
A good organization serving as an "anti defamation league" for geeks of color http://www.fairtraderecycling.org/ has links to the 2011 German video, showing how German environmentalists would have kept the Green Revolution / Arab spring from ever happening.
45% of all toxics released by all USA industry come from hard rock metal mining. 14 of the 15 largest Superfund Sites are hard rock mines. Mining of tanatalum for electronics (coltan) is responsible for the disappearance of half of the lowland gorillas. It kind of bothers me when "environmentalists" have zero depth perception, no ability at all to prioritize risks.
The cost of the video is so high because they haven't achieved a scale of production. We need them to produce entire series of Star Trek, then IRS Voyager, Next Generation Income Tax... then Star Wars, Mission Impossible, etc If enough auditors spend enough time producing enough of these videos, the cost per video will go down, which means the "rate of increase" of IRS spending on videos could go down.
At least until the auditing period for the 1040 I'm working on today is expired. Then pull the plug.
Nor is it a tax of mass destruction.
In the future, everyone will be a billionaire for 15 minutes, until their ill-gained 15 minute life savings is phished by the next billionaire. The bank account hijack will rotate around and around, shared by everyone in the world, boosting all our credit ratings... momentarily.
I was just puzzling this morning at the restaurant sign... how exactly I would order my hot pancake breakfast and coffee, or ice cream sundae, online? Tonight I read I can walk down the aisles at Google to find my search at the shopping mall. Is this what dementia feels like?
BINGO. Japan and the USA gave up on defending displays over 20 years ago, depending on software as the chip technology leaked away.
And I tire of the Slashdot anti-Asian chatter, sounds like the old men who complained about selling "scraps to Japs" in the recycling business in the 1960s, as if Japanese steel mills use of USA scrap in the 1960s had something to do with WWII. That may sound off topic, but if you are my age you remember all the anti Japanese drum beating, how threatening Japan was to the USA.
I live on a street where I am happy if my neighbors are doing well, improving their houses, their children doing well in school. Having my neighbors do better raises the value of my property, and the potential friendship my kids will find in the neighborhood. Having the world do better works the same way.
The number of topical new discoveries that I can imagine putting "i" in front of, or Android versions of, is amazing. Or the other way, imagine a Johnny Cash song about it. The "ground" is every direction from the obvious. If "groundbreaking" means "outside the expected", the capacity of Mankind to anticipate only the obvious is enormous.
Drag away. What they should be measuring is the amount of caffeine that is going into the water table from urine. At that point, it's actually affecting someone else, second hand, and may actually be appropriate to regulate.
And stop going on the internet, and stop listening to music, and read old books... Do I owe anything to current millionaires for getting bored with them?
I could compare the software used in the Statue of Liberty to any phone on the market, and create the same headline.
Would the risks cancel each other out?
http://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs/engineering-design-problems/rohs/ The replacement of leaded solder with tin-silver solder was bad for the environment (while the leaded solder was "toxic", the process to remove tin and silver - the replacements - is far more toxic, so the pollution was diverted from western controlled landfills of the future to coral mining islands of the present). But if it turns out to cause planes to drop from the sky (see concerns over "tin whiskers"), it will prove worse. I don't know that the Boeing problem is related to the ROHS circuit, but (per the link above) defense aeronautics engineers refused to comply with it based on concerns cited.
Every time I need to buy a ticket to Havana or unlock a phone, it's a quick trip over the border and back. Since they didn't make POSSESSION of an unlocked phone a crime, it's pretty easy to alibi.
And that "Jump" was from an audit of the second year Apple did the study, 2011. For 2012, "According to Apple's new report, the company didn't find any cases of underage workers at its final assembly suppliers in 2012". Of the subcontractors audited, only one was a serious violator, and that company was terminated as a supplier to Apple. My conclusion is that all of this Slashdot hyperbole and handwringing over Chinese supply chain is kinda 2003. 74 cases out of tens of thousands, concentrated at one subcontractor, which probably had a handful of bad managers. I don't think this is 1850 England we are discussing, this is closer to 1970 Bentonville Arkansas.
Time passes faster when you're having fun. If we have a limited number of heartbeats, the trick is to stay as miserable as possible, so that the time will pass more slowly.