When employers all threaten everyone with the same outsourcing when/if the salary budget gets too high then none of us are better off. No one leaves and instead of a Dead Sea you have an algae pond that clogs and festers.
So it's just quieter. Again, if that's your main concern, then fine. There are probably less problematic ways to address that. I for one would not want to ever have to worry about hundreds of little water cooling systems in a data center each with the potential to break down and cause a catastrophic failure among many machines.
Back in the old TCM days you might have a dozen CEM complexes each with a TCM ganged into a single chiller pump system. That's a kind of failure rate that's manageable. But with 5000 server blades in a data center today the probability of something going horribly wrong from 5000 water coolers is unacceptable.
You don't have to be an entirely patronizing asshole. But I'm guessing you don't work in sales.
Ok so it's marginally quieter. As for its absolute cooling power it's on par with whatever air cooled unit you can get today with a lot less complexity. All in all that's pretty weak justification. If that's your definition of "it works well" then you clearly care about noise above all other criteria. There are probably better ways to make your PC quieter than this.
Yes I know what those are. But carrying the heat away from the servers and venting it to the room isn't going to help the overall need to cool everything. It may make each server slightly cooler but it's not going to alleviate the need for power or cooling in any data center overall.
Even the article tries hard to tout its benefits but their own stats show its not worth it. Either it's a crappy implementation or its simply not relevant.
A DC might have 20,000 servers. That heat has to go SOMEWHERE. If it's pumped into the ambient air just like an aircooled machine, you're still going to need large AC units to move that hot air out of the DC
So that you have an incentive to run the red light. I'm talking 5 minutes as a lower value with some red lights lasting 8 minutes or more. Drivers run the red light, sometimes by as much as 10-15 seconds because you really never know when you'll get a green light again. And that's not counting left turn lights which typically are 2x worse, or half as long or both.
This morning watching almost a hundred other cars getting zero MPG it occurred to me why Raleigh NC has some of the worst air quality in the nation. You see the traffic lights here are designed to slow things down and to generate lots and lots and LOTS of traffic tickets (We write the same number of tickets as Houston, roughly 7x more people than we have).
And you literally have to plan your trip around avoiding left turns in Raleigh because you could wait a half hour to make one. Either there's no left turn light and the rednecks will happily t-bone you instead of yielding, or, there is a left turn light and it turns green for 30 seconds every ten minutes.
Traffic reports are a complete waste of time. Here's the traffic report for the rest of the Century: Traffic in Raleigh is fucked up.
Just so we're clear. It's small and it's cheap-ish. But I would NOT consider a $700 laptop to be budget considering you're only getting $289 - $319 worth of desktop performance out of it. You're still essentially paying a horrendous premium for portability.
Hundreds of dollars more than Sprint's plan. Every damn month. My phone must have extraterrestrial intelligence. Or a close personal relationship with Sprint's billing computers.
You see, in the US we're too busy fucking up basic customer service and being beholden to phone companies, the FCC and crappy near-Gray Box PC companies like Dell, who's latest and greatest innovation is to send me 2 different catalogs every week in the mail. Plus I bet we kick Japan's ass in the area of 1337 neon tubes inside our Gamerz PC's.
With Anderson Cooper? Well I occurred to me in about 20 seconds that the optimal winning strategy was to pretend you were the mole. If that makes me ruthless, I'll remember that when I pour some out on the curb for my dead homies.
But since 1981 I have had exactly zero catastrophic PC drive crashes. That's not to say I haven't seen some bad/relocated sectors, but hard failures? None. Granted that's only 20 drives. But in fact in my experience in PC's, midranges and mainframes in almost 30 years I have seen zero hard drive crashes.
There's a flaw in your reasoning there, doctor. Let's assume that MS gets the next version of Windows out the door with 40% of its intended function missing, 18 months late. This is the norm for MS. Clearly they're not going to abandon their most successful OS ever and present an 18 month gap where they sell nothing.
The only problem I have with NPR classifying some of the horrible things the US has been doing lately as war crimes is that we're not officially at war, because the president wanted to avoid having to 1) get permission from congress and 2) obey the Geneva conventions. It's a pretty silly excuse, though, saying that the Geneva conventions don't apply because we're fighting terrorists, not a waging war.
That's like getting around anti-hate crime legislation by saying that you killed all those people because you liked them, not because you hated them. Stupid, stupid, rhetorical nonsense. Well considering there have been exactly zero declared wars since the end of WW2 it sort of puts a point on the futility of the whole thing, doesn't it?
As we all know everything the west does is an official war crime so now hacking will be a war crime as defined by NPR, DailyKOS. I don't know how they'll fit it into their regularly scheduled day chock full of pathetic poor brown people from around the world.
And I'm different I don't conform I wear a different uniform
I'm out of the blue And so you are, too Let me sing about one thing that's clear That nobody owns The pleasure of tones That belongs to a guy with no ear
They tried to give me advice Down at the record shop I said sit down boys This may come as a shock What's all I listen to It's all freedom rock How can you free me [4x] When I'm free? I am free
My name is Chip And I'm different I don't conform I wear a different uniform
I'm out of the blue And so you are, too Let me sing about one thing that's clear
That nobody owns The pleasure of tones That belongs to a guy with no ear
And USB wireless NIC cards, are, to a man, each and every one of them, complete fucking shit. I have never had a functional USB wireless NIC - well I did have a Netgear WGT111 once and it overheated and melted in the first 45 minutes. The rest of them never worked AT ALL. In fact all the hosannahs for USB Uber Alles are, to put it mildly, smoking PCP.
Odd they didn't mention COM - other than industrial computers and embedded systems mounted on telephone poles, COM is useless - just use a USB to serial interfacer. And you know what IS dead or it should be? S-Video. That's one bullshit port.
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When employers all threaten everyone with the same outsourcing when/if the salary budget gets too high then none of us are better off. No one leaves and instead of a Dead Sea you have an algae pond that clogs and festers.
So it's just quieter. Again, if that's your main concern, then fine. There are probably less problematic ways to address that. I for one would not want to ever have to worry about hundreds of little water cooling systems in a data center each with the potential to break down and cause a catastrophic failure among many machines.
Back in the old TCM days you might have a dozen CEM complexes each with a TCM ganged into a single chiller pump system. That's a kind of failure rate that's manageable. But with 5000 server blades in a data center today the probability of something going horribly wrong from 5000 water coolers is unacceptable.
You don't have to be an entirely patronizing asshole. But I'm guessing you don't work in sales.
Ok so it's marginally quieter. As for its absolute cooling power it's on par with whatever air cooled unit you can get today with a lot less complexity. All in all that's pretty weak justification. If that's your definition of "it works well" then you clearly care about noise above all other criteria. There are probably better ways to make your PC quieter than this.
Yes I know what those are. But carrying the heat away from the servers and venting it to the room isn't going to help the overall need to cool everything. It may make each server slightly cooler but it's not going to alleviate the need for power or cooling in any data center overall.
Even the article tries hard to tout its benefits but their own stats show its not worth it. Either it's a crappy implementation or its simply not relevant.
A DC might have 20,000 servers. That heat has to go SOMEWHERE. If it's pumped into the ambient air just like an aircooled machine, you're still going to need large AC units to move that hot air out of the DC
And I've been screaming that it's unfair. If you can't pass sane laws then at least everyone should suffer equally.
So that you have an incentive to run the red light. I'm talking 5 minutes as a lower value with some red lights lasting 8 minutes or more. Drivers run the red light, sometimes by as much as 10-15 seconds because you really never know when you'll get a green light again. And that's not counting left turn lights which typically are 2x worse, or half as long or both.
I can't for the life of me imagine a day when Gartner wasn't MS's Bitch. Did she catch MS in bed with someone else? A man perhaps?
This morning watching almost a hundred other cars getting zero MPG it occurred to me why Raleigh NC has some of the worst air quality in the nation. You see the traffic lights here are designed to slow things down and to generate lots and lots and LOTS of traffic tickets (We write the same number of tickets as Houston, roughly 7x more people than we have).
And you literally have to plan your trip around avoiding left turns in Raleigh because you could wait a half hour to make one. Either there's no left turn light and the rednecks will happily t-bone you instead of yielding, or, there is a left turn light and it turns green for 30 seconds every ten minutes.
Traffic reports are a complete waste of time. Here's the traffic report for the rest of the Century: Traffic in Raleigh is fucked up.
Just so we're clear. It's small and it's cheap-ish. But I would NOT consider a $700 laptop to be budget considering you're only getting $289 - $319 worth of desktop performance out of it. You're still essentially paying a horrendous premium for portability.
Hundreds of dollars more than Sprint's plan. Every damn month. My phone must have extraterrestrial intelligence. Or a close personal relationship with Sprint's billing computers.
You see, in the US we're too busy fucking up basic customer service and being beholden to phone companies, the FCC and crappy near-Gray Box PC companies like Dell, who's latest and greatest innovation is to send me 2 different catalogs every week in the mail. Plus I bet we kick Japan's ass in the area of 1337 neon tubes inside our Gamerz PC's.
I'ma delete your Yahoo ID, ya warcriminal pansy, you.
This is what the modern world has degenerated to.
With Anderson Cooper? Well I occurred to me in about 20 seconds that the optimal winning strategy was to pretend you were the mole. If that makes me ruthless, I'll remember that when I pour some out on the curb for my dead homies.
So the definition of Paranoia is clinical, political, helpful, fearful all at the same time. That's more or less the point of England nowadays.
95% of all 'professional' blogging is bloggers quoting and pasting other bloggers, to either agree violently with them or talk shit about them.
Now run out and buy a new dual-Quad core 4GB machine, Intel will thank you.
But since 1981 I have had exactly zero catastrophic PC drive crashes. That's not to say I haven't seen some bad/relocated sectors, but hard failures? None. Granted that's only 20 drives. But in fact in my experience in PC's, midranges and mainframes in almost 30 years I have seen zero hard drive crashes.
My god after a 20 year marriage looks like someone got caught between the neighbor's thighs. Who gets the dog?
There's a flaw in your reasoning there, doctor. Let's assume that MS gets the next version of Windows out the door with 40% of its intended function missing, 18 months late. This is the norm for MS. Clearly they're not going to abandon their most successful OS ever and present an 18 month gap where they sell nothing.
That's like getting around anti-hate crime legislation by saying that you killed all those people because you liked them, not because you hated them. Stupid, stupid, rhetorical nonsense. Well considering there have been exactly zero declared wars since the end of WW2 it sort of puts a point on the futility of the whole thing, doesn't it?
As we all know everything the west does is an official war crime so now hacking will be a war crime as defined by NPR, DailyKOS. I don't know how they'll fit it into their regularly scheduled day chock full of pathetic poor brown people from around the world.
What good is internet technology unless it's fundamentally pointless overkill? We just call this the OCDPOM program (one clothes dryer old woman)
And I'm different
I don't conform
I wear a different uniform
I'm out of the blue
And so you are, too
Let me sing about one thing that's clear
That nobody owns
The pleasure of tones
That belongs to a guy with no ear
They tried to give me advice
Down at the record shop
I said sit down boys
This may come as a shock
What's all I listen to
It's all freedom rock
How can you free me [4x]
When I'm free?
I am free
My name is Chip
And I'm different
I don't conform
I wear a different uniform
I'm out of the blue
And so you are, too
Let me sing about one thing that's clear
That nobody owns
The pleasure of tones
That belongs to a guy with no ear
And USB wireless NIC cards, are, to a man, each and every one of them, complete fucking shit. I have never had a functional USB wireless NIC - well I did have a Netgear WGT111 once and it overheated and melted in the first 45 minutes. The rest of them never worked AT ALL. In fact all the hosannahs for USB Uber Alles are, to put it mildly, smoking PCP.
Odd they didn't mention COM - other than industrial computers and embedded systems mounted on telephone poles, COM is useless - just use a USB to serial interfacer. And you know what IS dead or it should be? S-Video. That's one bullshit port.