The deal is, they saved the space that is occupied by all of those ramps and inclines in a normal parking garage, and send a valet to get take your car/get your car in a car elevator.
The downside is that they can only do one or so at a time, and when the clubs close and you're on your way out, you have to linger with all the other club trash while waiting to get your wheels.
I don't think these are the same xboxs - I think these are new.
And to follow up on your point, I find you are right about Microsoft people. On the few occasions I've used MS tech support, they have been nothing short of absolutly astounding in no uncertain terms. Absolutly the best support ever. One was a sort of paid deal - we tried to use an incident with our MSDN universal subscription. And they guy totally helped and then his boss called to make sure he helped - and this took days to resolve because of my limited time to try things he recommended. And because the solution wasn't supported by ms, they didn't charge us an incident.
The second occasion was when I installed Office 2003. I couldn't get it to do a certain display thing, and fired off an email to support@microsoft.com not expected to get a response. But I got one, and it was excellent.
I suspect that, if they wanted to, N could include maybe 30+ games on a single cartridge rather than making a single one for each classic game. Maybe you would be more willing to pay 20 if they stacked games onto the cats - EG having all 4-5 (?) Mario games on one, etc.
This sounds like the same guy who often makes similar posts after mine - same attitude, same dictation. You can take his 'attitude' and apply it to pretty much any post anywhere.
You make some good points (not the parent, but the grandparent) and I do hope that LA takes notice of this work and learns from it.
Given how Sony has run a similar game, Planetside, they have a similar propensity to blow this one too with a heavy subscription. Given the quality of the screenshots of the mod, I am leaning towards believing that this mod will outdraw the official battlegrounds game.
I wonder if these kind of slips - "accidently" posting something up and them immediatly changing it, leaking specs to the press, etc., are really intentional and meant to get free advertising (aka 'earned media').
I've seen this done so often in the past it makes you wonder. And you would also think that with a company as large as N that the people working on the Nitro project and preparing a slideshow-type graphic would be different from the people running the website, and that someone would actually have to hand off that graphic and say 'please post this for about 30 minutes and send an anonymous email to that gaming website to bring it to their attention.'
Code is pretty re-usable, and from the last dozen or so games that id's released, I'd say every one of them has network play of some sort. Speaking from experience I wouldn't think it'd be difficult for them to throw some decent network co-op in there in a day's time. I think they're either being lazy, or they have a deal with MS for added benefits to the XBox. (Which is highly disappointing).
No, see, it's like this. The game state in single player mode is easy to track on one machines. What you are doing with split screen is running two clients on the same machine.
I'm not saying it's harder to do, but it does take a substantial amount of new work to make single player work across a network, either on both machines or just one one machine with a remote client.
Co-op is important on console rather than PC because you have two people sitting next to each other. For PCs, it's two people at a distance playing together. That's really the difference.
Co-op makes more sense for consoles. Remember what P. Diddy says - 'It's good to play together.'
Technically, the co-op that will be in Xbox will not be the same as you'd want in PC - it will be Split Screen. It's not as though the Devs can as easily take this split screen co-op and turn it into single screen, multiple location co-op.
While co-op is important to consoles, it's not such a big deal for PC games. How do I know? I recall Serious Sam having co-op and nearly all the games on the servers were for pvp, not co-op.
I use to live in a small building with bad inside wiring for telephones. I didn't use the phone and was canceling phone service.
Anyway, I was there when the technician came over to install my DSL and, as expected, the inside wiring would not carry the signal.
So what I had him do instead was run a line directly from the phone box outside the building, and ran the wire through a window. Perfect. No phone service, just DSL.
If you live in a building where you can run the wire right to the box, talk to the tech when he gets there. If he is competent, this might work out for you.
It is sort of a hack because I've seen the way the rent-a-cops do it - they turn a key, unlock the box, flip a switch, and then go where they want it to as normal.
Anyway, I got moded up to 5 and believe that it qualifies as a hack because I am making it work a certain way that is not intended for me (I am not using the key).
So Please don't tkae this small accomplishment away from me. All I have is this and overclocking my shoelaces (I tie a second bow over the first).
I got 11 responses to my one post, but I will respond only once here. Several points:
1) Microsoft is a natural monopoly. The value of your product gets geometrically higher to have closer to a natural monopoly. To achieve and maintain a natural monopoly is nearly impossible and requires you to offer value BELOW the cost of entry into the market. These natural monopolies have provided tremendous value to the country. The nation's formost economist Alan Greenspan explains this here.
2) Do not confuse a natural monopoly with an unnatural one - IE - the post office, the DMV, etc.
3) The Sherman anti-trust act, as bad as it is, is for the protection of consumers, not competitors. You have to prove demonstrable actual damage to consumers - you can put your comptitors out of business all day long.
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You must't understand. If you just push the floor key you want to go to, it doesn't go there. But if you HOLD IT DOWN for several seconds, the door gradually closes and you go to the floor you want.
No joke! I'm still angry about Henry Ford putting all those carriage makers out of business.
Oh, you are being serious. A company does something to make it's customers happy, and you want government gangsters to split them up because they put someone else out of business? As a consumer, what entitles TrendMicro to my $$$ when I would rather give it to MS (or not give it - service packs are free.
Get a clue. Just because you can write code doesn't mean you understand economics.
Bear with me here, this is legitemate and not a joke.
After hours, the desk attendant is replaced by a rent-a-cop. These rent-a-cops, to make things convinient for themselves, are in the practice of comandering one of the elevators so that it only moves when they put their key in.
Similarly, the cleaning people, when moving from floor to floor, leave their wheeled carts on the elevator and disable the movement of the elevator to save them the trouble of waiting on an elevator and moving their carts out of the elevator.
This has, at times, annoyed me. So I figured out that if I enter the elevator and [b]hold down[/b] the floor button, the elevator door will close and I will move to my floor.
This mischief of mine is mostly directed at the rent-a-cops because when I enter the building it is easist for me to just grab their elevator and ride it up, leaving them thinking that they didn't set it right.
However, the bigger impact is on the cleaning people, for when I take their elevator, I'm also taking their wheeled carts, and it must be a pain in the butt to try get back that elevator (one of three). I mean, they push a return elevator button, and it's 1:3 chance that it will be the right one.... every time! Because of this, I'm much less likely to hax0rz their elevator.
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You are dishonest.
The downside is that they can only do one or so at a time, and when the clubs close and you're on your way out, you have to linger with all the other club trash while waiting to get your wheels.
And to follow up on your point, I find you are right about Microsoft people. On the few occasions I've used MS tech support, they have been nothing short of absolutly astounding in no uncertain terms. Absolutly the best support ever. One was a sort of paid deal - we tried to use an incident with our MSDN universal subscription. And they guy totally helped and then his boss called to make sure he helped - and this took days to resolve because of my limited time to try things he recommended. And because the solution wasn't supported by ms, they didn't charge us an incident.
The second occasion was when I installed Office 2003. I couldn't get it to do a certain display thing, and fired off an email to support@microsoft.com not expected to get a response. But I got one, and it was excellent.
Hmm. Maybe you can also similarly explain how your post got modded 'funny'
I have no idea how this got modded down.
Good eye; I saw that too.
I suspect that, if they wanted to, N could include maybe 30+ games on a single cartridge rather than making a single one for each classic game. Maybe you would be more willing to pay 20 if they stacked games onto the cats - EG having all 4-5 (?) Mario games on one, etc.
psssh. Funny robots are all the same. HK, Bender, Mr. Data, that little girl on that TV show from the late 80s.
Right here.
Oh wait. You don't like social criticism when it isn't politically correct?
You make some good points (not the parent, but the grandparent) and I do hope that LA takes notice of this work and learns from it.
Given how Sony has run a similar game, Planetside, they have a similar propensity to blow this one too with a heavy subscription. Given the quality of the screenshots of the mod, I am leaning towards believing that this mod will outdraw the official battlegrounds game.
I've seen this done so often in the past it makes you wonder. And you would also think that with a company as large as N that the people working on the Nitro project and preparing a slideshow-type graphic would be different from the people running the website, and that someone would actually have to hand off that graphic and say 'please post this for about 30 minutes and send an anonymous email to that gaming website to bring it to their attention.'
that was funnier than 95% of what gets moded to +5 funny.
I'm not saying it's harder to do, but it does take a substantial amount of new work to make single player work across a network, either on both machines or just one one machine with a remote client.
Co-op is important on console rather than PC because you have two people sitting next to each other. For PCs, it's two people at a distance playing together. That's really the difference.
It won't be. Trust me. There are other XBL games that are co-op and they are almost all split screen for co-op and non-live for co-op split screen.
Technically, the co-op that will be in Xbox will not be the same as you'd want in PC - it will be Split Screen. It's not as though the Devs can as easily take this split screen co-op and turn it into single screen, multiple location co-op.
While co-op is important to consoles, it's not such a big deal for PC games. How do I know? I recall Serious Sam having co-op and nearly all the games on the servers were for pvp, not co-op.
See the word spy entry.
Anyway, I was there when the technician came over to install my DSL and, as expected, the inside wiring would not carry the signal.
So what I had him do instead was run a line directly from the phone box outside the building, and ran the wire through a window. Perfect. No phone service, just DSL.
If you live in a building where you can run the wire right to the box, talk to the tech when he gets there. If he is competent, this might work out for you.
Anyway, I got moded up to 5 and believe that it qualifies as a hack because I am making it work a certain way that is not intended for me (I am not using the key).
So Please don't tkae this small accomplishment away from me. All I have is this and overclocking my shoelaces (I tie a second bow over the first).
And the constitutional convention ruled slaves as 3/5s a person. That does not make it so, and 'because someone said so' is a poor argument.
1) Microsoft is a natural monopoly. The value of your product gets geometrically higher to have closer to a natural monopoly. To achieve and maintain a natural monopoly is nearly impossible and requires you to offer value BELOW the cost of entry into the market. These natural monopolies have provided tremendous value to the country. The nation's formost economist Alan Greenspan explains this here.
2) Do not confuse a natural monopoly with an unnatural one - IE - the post office, the DMV, etc.
3) The Sherman anti-trust act, as bad as it is, is for the protection of consumers, not competitors. You have to prove demonstrable actual damage to consumers - you can put your comptitors out of business all day long.
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You must't understand. If you just push the floor key you want to go to, it doesn't go there. But if you HOLD IT DOWN for several seconds, the door gradually closes and you go to the floor you want.
Oh, you are being serious. A company does something to make it's customers happy, and you want government gangsters to split them up because they put someone else out of business? As a consumer, what entitles TrendMicro to my $$$ when I would rather give it to MS (or not give it - service packs are free.
Get a clue. Just because you can write code doesn't mean you understand economics.
After hours, the desk attendant is replaced by a rent-a-cop. These rent-a-cops, to make things convinient for themselves, are in the practice of comandering one of the elevators so that it only moves when they put their key in.
Similarly, the cleaning people, when moving from floor to floor, leave their wheeled carts on the elevator and disable the movement of the elevator to save them the trouble of waiting on an elevator and moving their carts out of the elevator.
This has, at times, annoyed me. So I figured out that if I enter the elevator and [b]hold down[/b] the floor button, the elevator door will close and I will move to my floor.
This mischief of mine is mostly directed at the rent-a-cops because when I enter the building it is easist for me to just grab their elevator and ride it up, leaving them thinking that they didn't set it right.
However, the bigger impact is on the cleaning people, for when I take their elevator, I'm also taking their wheeled carts, and it must be a pain in the butt to try get back that elevator (one of three). I mean, they push a return elevator button, and it's 1:3 chance that it will be the right one.... every time! Because of this, I'm much less likely to hax0rz their elevator.