Sorry I would remove that post if I knew how. I realize now that this is a game, and games are OK. I just dont like sitting in a theatre and watching someone else tell me some damn story I read long ago.
Why does this come accross as a interesting idea when we only have so much materials based on the carbon existence that the puzzle of life just makes sense that we are simular to other species. More interesting if we had some alien dna to examine.
Make a museum of course, but they need to look at the computers as some sort of resource not just a junk pile.
Take the best pieces and display them. Take the rest and sell the componants to someone who could use them, OR:
Other museums might be interested in a purchase.
Rumor has it that early chips used gold in the manufacture and I have seen on the net people offering to pay for old chips.
Ebay is known to sell documentation and boxes for more then the computer itself is worth.
Old databases may need to be read, that only old hardware can do.
Clusters of old computers can do work such as folding@home, and the museum could offer visiters do donate a small amount to be listed as supporters of a mass computing system to cure disease.
A cluster could also be made to offer businesses some cheap run time for app testing.
This is something I have been waiting for forever. I mean I dont mind the plain opt for scroll, but the opt-mod in transparency is JUST KICK ASS when attached to the left scroll device feature. Man it used to be gustures, but I can really see this taking aff as more users find ways to use it!
Good questions. You are on the ball. I work mostly with non profits too. OK lets see what we can work out from them, I have the IT from Florida's email on another machine I am not at right now. I would like to keep a discussion open about how many servers Linux - minus cirtix can handle. Where can we keep this discussion alive?
Thanks for your comments: I didnt realize it was an issue, because I tried UT2003 using a Nvidia card under linux. Thanks for the info. I hope it gets better for all the opengl cards using X.
I here you brother: Linux should be in the crowd.
UT2003 did it, they did it the right way:
You bought the game and it was win and Linux, you choose which operating system to run on. Thats the way to go. Here that Carmack? Do it, it makes friends.
You NEED a fast vid card and at least 512 megs of ram. The ram really helps.
I dont see how the XBOX can even get this to look right without seriously watering it down.
Playing this game on a PC is like playing Doom, in the sense that it suprises you, hell is even scary.
But the way it looks just brings you in, I found myself looking at the tiles in the bathroom, at checking out the elctron pulse by stanind in it WOW.
Carmack has gone all out to add in the visual features, using light and shadow to his advantage, and those monsters are frightening. They attack with a vengence.
heres a link that will help you with the Alpha, including graphic modifiers. Nice FAQ in as well:
When I was in law school I remember studying interstate commerce law, (one of the main reasons why we have a federal govermnert) and I wonder how the feds will deal with California if the big lobbys protest this tax move.
http://www.gigalaw.com/articles/2001/burke-2001-12.html
http://www.ilpf.org/events/jurisdiction/presentati ons/
"Longhorn is quartz" "OSX has colors" Ya know what? WHATEVER. Nothing new or inventive from either one of those camps. Just boring old screens with some color. Who cares. Copy each other? Of course, thats how it works. Ever notice that possible KDE and Gnome just didnt come out of nowhere? With the exception of maybe Enlightenment, nobody is doing anything truly interesting with the desktop itself. (oh yeah everyone thank Xerox for the GUI, thats where it all began).
But whats really going on? Microsoft goes the extra mile of course and throws in spyware and DRM and begins its road towards a closed.net framework and trying to kick open source out for good. Meanwhile apple maintains its stronghold on closed computer hardware, but uses open source software to base its OS on.
So whats NOT interesting is the desktop, but the hardware and software base. MS is jealous of the fact that Apple has so much control over their hardware (and software to some extent) and Apple is jealous of MS for having such a huge user base.
As each company moves towards its goals: Read MAKE MONEY, dont think for a second it has anything to do with making computing better, the consumer had better keep thier eyes wide open, and not worry so much about a some desktop theme.
BTW: I tried to be objective: But I have always disliked Macs. From way back when I had a two-button mouse, multi-tasking, thousands of colors, full screen animation, stereo sound, and more. What did the mac have? A black and white screen and a wild eep for sound. Yet even then the mac fanbots would tell me how great it was. The PC crowd didnt have fanbots like that, it was just known that the PC (lets see they were just getting 286's) was what it was, just a text editor. Its too bad that we argue about the PC and Mac as if either was all that interesting, and we know full well that a good idea is worth copying.
ONE LAST NOTE: I have only watched someone else use OSX. They used it for a while and then it was replaced with Gentoo (go figure). Is apple still so ass backword that dragging disks to the trash is the way to eject them? And empty trash is under "Special"?
exactly. Many distros are based on this model, such as say...Yopper.
In the case this distro, you are paying for the build, and the non free software included.
Now if it included a full version of say UT2003, that would be even better!
Knoppix IS the greatest thing since sliced bread for sure....as a distro on a disk. And yes its an easy way to install debian...sort of. I tried it (a install as opposed to running the cd) and frankly it wasnt what I wanted. It losses a lot of the congfiguration that was put into making knoppix great. Sure I could spend some time and get it back to being that good, but why bother? Redhat 9 on this laptop is more configured out of the box, and mandrake 9.1 on my home computer is even better.
I think knoppix has its place. I carry around a cd of it and give it awar to show off linux, but in the end, if you can really get someone interested, you are better off setting them on thier way with a mandrake or redhat distro. Or better still, setting up thier computer with Gentoo. Then tell them how to use emerge.
BTW nothing to do with this discussion at all, but I showed my four year old TuxPaint, and with just a little help from me made his mom a nice picture for Mothers Day. Linux ROCKS. Thanks to free software I just grabbed RPM and away we went....
Its the Scotty syndrome:
It will take a long time, I dont know enough about it! I will try hard to get it done in a week.
Then you get it done in 3 days, and everyone loves you. Look stupid, be smart.
What harddrive?
Microsoft doesnt want you to have a hardrive (except to put Longhorn on).
So they will simply let you save the file to thier sever, and they will check out its legality there. And send you a bill if need be.
Think that sounds far fetched? It isnt, it really, isnt.
I agree, they shouldnt bother with copy protection. They didnt with VHS tapes. Ok so the copy could be perfrect now days, given that its digital, but really, the people I know who are movie buffs will ALWAYS buy the movie becasue they want the artwork and they want to own it. For others, I dont know if they would bother copying it if they could just rent it for a few bucks. And they wont copy it while they rent it cause they are watching it, and when they are done they really dont care to see it again.
Thank you for your reply. I would really like to go visit there some time. UI have had the beer, isnt High Street a McMinimmins pub? but I havent gone to the theatre. Great idea. I should clarify that I am willing to go to independent theatre, just not the big chains.
One more thing, I have heard that those who do go to the big multtiplexes are sitting through not only trialers but now commercials. Give me a break.
First a quote from Dinsdale "DVDs are protected to the hilt," he said "It plays by the rules and ends up being a great consumer experience."
My ass. It makes it a way for me to have to sit through a FBI warning, and as is the case from some of the newer DVD's to have to watch trailers, (read commercials). I dont want that in something I have bought, or rented.
So what can a legal owner or renter of a DVD do? Play it with Linux? Yeah, but then I break the law.
These folks gotta get with the program (pun intended) I want to watch the damn movie!
As an aside: I have not been to a movie theatre in 5 years and I am not about to go anytime soon. When all of them became tiny little multiplexes I just couldn't enjoy it anymore.
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Every opinion that is not positive, down to the comments about the footage gets a negative score, or a troll or a flame bait. LAME
Go back to the SCA you pathetic semi techies.
SCA = an excuse for fat people to get laid.
A tale to fire our imagination? Thats my point. My imagination is so far beyond someones elses tale that I dont need it.
Actually my problem with the Lord of the Rings is that I want less description. I want the point.
Sorry I would remove that post if I knew how. I realize now that this is a game, and games are OK.
I just dont like sitting in a theatre and watching someone else tell me some damn story I read long ago.
The subject says it all.
The books were boring, and they have brought it all to life on the "Big Screen". Great another way to waste 3 hours of my life.
Why is fiction so appealing?
Why does this come accross as a interesting idea when we only have so much materials based on the carbon existence that the puzzle of life just makes sense that we are simular to other species. More interesting if we had some alien dna to examine.
e ctures/ch em/chem.html
Link:
http://www.mrs.umn.edu/~goochv/CellBio/l
Make a museum of course, but they need to look at the computers as some sort of resource not just a junk pile.
Take the best pieces and display them. Take the rest and sell the componants to someone who could use them, OR:
Other museums might be interested in a purchase.
Rumor has it that early chips used gold in the manufacture and I have seen on the net people offering to pay for old chips.
Ebay is known to sell documentation and boxes for more then the computer itself is worth.
Old databases may need to be read, that only old hardware can do.
Clusters of old computers can do work such as folding@home, and the museum could offer visiters do donate a small amount to be listed as supporters of a mass computing system to cure disease.
A cluster could also be made to offer businesses some cheap run time for app testing.
This is something I have been waiting for forever. I mean I dont mind the plain opt for scroll, but the opt-mod in transparency is JUST KICK ASS when attached to the left scroll device feature. Man it used to be gustures, but I can really see this taking aff as more users find ways to use it!
Good questions. You are on the ball.
I work mostly with non profits too.
OK lets see what we can work out from them, I have the IT from Florida's email on another machine I am not at right now. I would like to keep a discussion open about how many servers Linux - minus cirtix can handle. Where can we keep this discussion alive?
To put it nicely: You can change the look to whatever you want it to be. Knoppix has their way you can have yours. Its that simple with KDE.
After reading comments that there should be more examples, and a larger amount of clients would add credibility, I would say there is:
m ai n/0,14179,2860180-1,00.html
. sh tml?tid=19
How about 450 thin clients running KDE with 800 users? All running from one Linux server box. Now that sounds good!
Articles:
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/
and the follow up:
http://newsforge.com/newsforge/02/12/04/2346215
Thanks for your comments: I didnt realize it was an issue, because I tried UT2003 using a Nvidia card under linux. Thanks for the info. I hope it gets better for all the opengl cards using X.
Those boys went out and Bowled before Killing!
They picked up thier big balls and knocked down those pins, like well, uh, pins.
Damn you Bowling! BAN BOWLING NOW!
I here you brother: Linux should be in the crowd. UT2003 did it, they did it the right way: You bought the game and it was win and Linux, you choose which operating system to run on. Thats the way to go. Here that Carmack? Do it, it makes friends.
Well since I have played the Alpha:
_ 3_ alpha_help.html
You NEED a fast vid card and at least 512 megs of ram. The ram really helps.
I dont see how the XBOX can even get this to look right without seriously watering it down.
Playing this game on a PC is like playing Doom, in the sense that it suprises you, hell is even scary.
But the way it looks just brings you in, I found myself looking at the tiles in the bathroom, at checking out the elctron pulse by stanind in it WOW.
Carmack has gone all out to add in the visual features, using light and shadow to his advantage, and those monsters are frightening. They attack with a vengence.
heres a link that will help you with the Alpha, including graphic modifiers. Nice FAQ in as well:
http://www.evem.org.au/evem/archives/games/doom
When I was in law school I remember studying interstate commerce law, (one of the main reasons why we have a federal govermnert) and I wonder how the feds will deal with California if the big lobbys protest this tax move. http://www.gigalaw.com/articles/2001/burke-2001-12 .html
http://www.ilpf.org/events/jurisdiction/presentati ons/
"Longhorn is quartz" "OSX has colors"
.net framework and trying to kick open source out for good. Meanwhile apple maintains its stronghold on closed computer hardware, but uses open source software to base its OS on.
Ya know what? WHATEVER. Nothing new or inventive from either one of those camps. Just boring old screens with some color. Who cares. Copy each other? Of course, thats how it works. Ever notice that possible KDE and Gnome just didnt come out of nowhere? With the exception of maybe Enlightenment, nobody is doing anything truly interesting with the desktop itself. (oh yeah everyone thank Xerox for the GUI, thats where it all began).
But whats really going on?
Microsoft goes the extra mile of course and throws in spyware and DRM and begins its road towards a closed
So whats NOT interesting is the desktop, but the hardware and software base. MS is jealous of the fact that Apple has so much control over their hardware (and software to some extent) and Apple is jealous of MS for having such a huge user base.
As each company moves towards its goals: Read MAKE MONEY, dont think for a second it has anything to do with making computing better, the consumer had better keep thier eyes wide open, and not worry so much about a some desktop theme.
BTW: I tried to be objective: But I have always disliked Macs. From way back when I had a two-button mouse, multi-tasking, thousands of colors, full screen animation, stereo sound, and more. What did the mac have? A black and white screen and a wild eep for sound. Yet even then the mac fanbots would tell me how great it was. The PC crowd didnt have fanbots like that, it was just known that the PC (lets see they were just getting 286's) was what it was, just a text editor.
Its too bad that we argue about the PC and Mac as if either was all that interesting, and we know full well that a good idea is worth copying.
ONE LAST NOTE: I have only watched someone else use OSX. They used it for a while and then it was replaced with Gentoo (go figure). Is apple still so ass backword that dragging disks to the trash is the way to eject them? And empty trash is under "Special"?
Um you can have them NOW if you want. The codecs are out there.
Or you can just grab real player 8 if you want for linux. I rpm'd mine in.
exactly. Many distros are based on this model, such as say...Yopper. In the case this distro, you are paying for the build, and the non free software included. Now if it included a full version of say UT2003, that would be even better!
Knoppix IS the greatest thing since sliced bread for sure....as a distro on a disk. And yes its an easy way to install debian...sort of.
I tried it (a install as opposed to running the cd) and frankly it wasnt what I wanted. It losses a lot of the congfiguration that was put into making knoppix great. Sure I could spend some time and get it back to being that good, but why bother? Redhat 9 on this laptop is more configured out of the box, and mandrake 9.1 on my home computer is even better.
I think knoppix has its place. I carry around a cd of it and give it awar to show off linux, but in the end, if you can really get someone interested, you are better off setting them on thier way with a mandrake or redhat distro. Or better still, setting up thier computer with Gentoo. Then tell them how to use emerge.
BTW nothing to do with this discussion at all, but I showed my four year old TuxPaint, and with just a little help from me made his mom a nice picture for Mothers Day. Linux ROCKS. Thanks to free software I just grabbed RPM and away we went....
dont make fun of this.
Its very important to me:
WWJD: is just too important to make fun.
WWJD:?
WHO would Jesus DO?
On topic, ok:
What test would Jesus take?
Doesnt Matter, hes been replaced with Col. Saunders, cause hes got popcorn chicken to throw into Gods mouth.
Its the Scotty syndrome: It will take a long time, I dont know enough about it! I will try hard to get it done in a week. Then you get it done in 3 days, and everyone loves you. Look stupid, be smart.
What harddrive? Microsoft doesnt want you to have a hardrive (except to put Longhorn on). So they will simply let you save the file to thier sever, and they will check out its legality there. And send you a bill if need be. Think that sounds far fetched? It isnt, it really, isnt.
I agree, they shouldnt bother with copy protection. They didnt with VHS tapes. Ok so the copy could be perfrect now days, given that its digital, but really, the people I know who are movie buffs will ALWAYS buy the movie becasue they want the artwork and they want to own it. For others, I dont know if they would bother copying it if they could just rent it for a few bucks. And they wont copy it while they rent it cause they are watching it, and when they are done they really dont care to see it again.
Thank you for your reply. I would really like to go visit there some time. UI have had the beer, isnt High Street a McMinimmins pub? but I havent gone to the theatre. Great idea. I should clarify that I am willing to go to independent theatre, just not the big chains. One more thing, I have heard that those who do go to the big multtiplexes are sitting through not only trialers but now commercials. Give me a break.
First a quote from Dinsdale "DVDs are protected to the hilt," he said "It plays by the rules and ends up being a great consumer experience."
My ass. It makes it a way for me to have to sit through a FBI warning, and as is the case from some of the newer DVD's to have to watch trailers, (read commercials). I dont want that in something I have bought, or rented.
So what can a legal owner or renter of a DVD do? Play it with Linux? Yeah, but then I break the law.
These folks gotta get with the program (pun intended) I want to watch the damn movie!
As an aside: I have not been to a movie theatre in 5 years and I am not about to go anytime soon. When all of them became tiny little multiplexes I just couldn't enjoy it anymore.
Screw you MPAA.