Says who? Religion and science are not mutually exclusive, although most slashdotters' simplistic attitudes fail to reflect this.
Well true, but... Christianity and science ARE mutually exclusive.
Take a look at Eastern philosophy and you will find much of it reflected in science and many areas where it overlaps. Not so with the closed-mindedness of Christianity.
Why not just use Mozilla with KDE? Or does QT make it special in some way I don't comprehend?
KDE is good, but not quite enough to switch me from all my GTK apps, so I stuck with Gnome, because I'm running Mozilla/Firefox anyway. Having a good integrated browser (which is the most used app for me) would be enough to make me consider switching. If the file dialogs were KDE file dialogs and supports drag and drop and other possible integration features (KWallet, etc), that is a more compelling reason to be using KDE.
Ever been to Europe? I think not. Try visiting this place, while it's still legal for a US person to travel abroad without being a member of one of the two Parties.
Yes I have, many times. I love Europe, actually, and wouldn't mind moving to some of the countries there.
Workers there have a lot of protections which make it difficult for employers to get them to work. I know a lot of people working as managers in places like Belgium and Netherlands that have terrible problems getting the lazy schmucks to do anything. They take sick days constantly (there is no limit, whenever they want) and don't get any work done, but you can't fire them because there are protections in place that prevent it.
I guess people will abuse any system when they can...
This is good news to me. I tried KDE a while back, but wasn't totally satisfied with the Konqueror web browser, which to me was the missing link in all the apps. It lacked type-ahead find, had kinda awkward rendering, and a few other things I didn't like.
Now I will give it another shot once this makes it into a release. I'm a Gnome user, but I'm not married to it, KDE was very nice last time I tried it.
So that is the Brave New Workplacein America. But that is not the workplace in France, and many other countries in Europe, where 35 hours per week is the mandated maximum work week, and where everyone gets 4 to 6 weeks of time off.
Oh, please.. Europeans are mostly a bunch of lazy fucks who don't get anything done. They should hardly be considered a good example.
I think that one of the most interesting parts of this new iMac is the fact that it has air holes in the top of it so that the hot air can rise out. Now why hasn't anyone else thought of that?
I assure you it has been thought of and implemented in a variety of ways. This is in the form of both custom case mods and I believe that there are actually a few cases out there that have air holes with fans pointing straight up.
Another important factor is the amount of time that they are given to accomplish the task. Certain programmers, including many who are otherwise excellent, procrastinate and cannot meet deadlines. And, as we're aware, even good programmers often take shortcuts once fatigue begins to set in.
Procrastination isn't the problem with meeting deadlines. The true problems are: -unrealistic expectations -underestimated time requirements -underestimating research/learning time -difficulties in working in a team -unexpected issues -poor requirements and specifications -inefficient feedback from the users/customers
Sure, there are the lazy-ass coders who browse the web and waste time, but even with a team of hardworking coders, you are still going to have problems meeting deadlines if they are not set realistically. Especially when you are trying to write quality software that can be easilly maintained, not just pump out some pile of horse shit that your customer will hate you for.
I was hoping for something that looked similar to this and priced similarly, but consisted of a slim, 2U sized case that could directly attach to the back of the monitor (and was designed explicitly for that purpose), but could also be purchased stand-alone and used with another monitor. I know, I know, all that junk about cutting into margins and such, but a man can dream, right?
Yeah, I wish they would produce something similar (monitor being optional is key), and I would definitely buy something like that. But Apple insists on selling you the monitor too, unless you want to pay more and get a Power Mac. That is the one thing I really dislike about Apple's line of computers.
As for the way this thing looks, I think this is the first time I've seen Apple actually take a step back as far as aesthetics is concerned. It actually has more utility, but less aesthetics. I wonder if you can remove the stand so that its easy to carry in a case. It's more like one of their laptops without the keyboard/mouse.
Is it that hard to call a few people on the phone, or heaven forbid talk to someone at work or school to make plans? I don't understand this recent fascination with multi-tasking on your phone. I must be out of touch with the hip crowd, because I only use my phone to talk to people. No games, no sms messages, no camera.
I don't have SMS messages in my service, but I've always wanted something like this. Where I live, the nightlife is such that I find myself moving from place to place throughout the night, the plans are always pretty much as the happen, never in advance. Also, it is kinda tedious to call 25-30 people to try and invite them out somewhere, and I always end up unintentionally excluding people.
I always thought it'd be cool to have something like a group chat, where everyone gets on it when they want to find out what's happening, and they all get any SMS messages that are sent on the chat. This Dodgeball idea is good enough though, its basically just a mailing list for SMS messages, its a feature that would be nice if it was built into the phone (or the network itself), but I suppose it saves you from using up your existing messages if you don't have unlimited SMS.
Personally, I would chosen East to be the up. That way the earth would spin downwards like a waterfall. Or would that be West to make it spin downloads?
With the success of the Mozilla project, I fail to see why anyone would bother running Netscape anymore....
Some people like the fact that Netscape's installer also installs plugins such as Flash. I knew one person (a non-techie) who couldn't get Mozilla working properly, but had success with Netscape and stuck with that. Having another browser with Mozilla (or even Gecko) at its core is a good thing. Lets just hope they keep up with security patches.
That's great that OSS developers can influence technology. If that's enough for you, that's great. But if I write something that influences technology on a global scale, I want something more than a pat on the back and my name buried in the source code. I want to get paid for my effort/time/expertise. I can't afford to be altruistic until I don't have to worry about making mortgage payments any more.
If you were clever enough (a lot of factors involved, not just quality of the software), you could create open source software and profit off of it. That would involve being paid to work on it, selling books on it, etc.
Also, since you own the rights to it, you can relicense it and sell it as a commercial product. I've seen a few companies that are dual licensing - one GPL, one commercial; and that seems to be a good business plan.
Are you kidding? That's not complicated? The only way it could be *more* complicated and convoluted is if you were also to tell me that I need to solder something onto my motherboard to get it to work. Compare this to ASP/IIS: either it comes already installed and running, or you end up putting a CD in the drive and clicking "next" a few times.
If you want easy, install Debian and type as root:
Say yes to any prompts and you are done! Apache2/MySQL/PHP4 will now be setup and running.
Granted we were talking about installing on Solaris here, but your monkey ass had to bring up IIS like its some wonderfully simple thing that even licks your ass for you.
Now if there were a Debian Solaris that would be sweet.
Is it really a selling point selling a laptop pre-installed with Linux because it's such a challenge otherwise?
The selling point, I think, is that it is a laptop that is intended for running Linux, so you don't have to worry about lack of driver support (presumably).
As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, it is an HP, which kinda negates any possible selling point:)
How do you say "I want to listen to all my Depeche Mode" without hunting through the file system?
In Winamp this is just like you would in iTunes, Rhythmbox, JuK, etc... Type "Depeche Mode" into search box, hit enter, and then double click on where you want to start in the search results. You can also search by artist, song title, etc, if you want to, but I tend to not use that feature because my music is poorly tagged.
Huh? Debian unstable doesn't break often at all. In fact it hasn't broken anything for me in more than 6 months, and I do it at least weekly. Lower frequency updates obviously break things even less frequently. I have other Operating Systems break far more often when tinkering with installed packages or upgrading stuff.
Debian unstable got so messed for me that I had to do a reinstall!!! This is after spending a huge amount of effort trying solve the problems, I just gave up and reinstalled. Granted I had a few unofficial packages that may have been a factor in this. I never had the whole thing quit working, just specific packages. Reinstalling was pretty painless, though.. Unlike a certain other operating system that gets reinstalled very often.
But the most common problem is that important packages break pretty often. I've had Evolution and Gnome break on me pretty often. Other little problems. If you do dist-upgrade's you can sometimes really fuck yourself up (a broken dependency can hurt a ton of packages), normal upgrades still can hurt, the problems are just isolated to the affected packages. It's usually only a few days before things get fixed.
As always, those of you who whine about Debian being out of date have probably never looked at the packages available in unstable and testing. Debian is a very fine distro for even desktop use.
Though I use unstable on my desktop, and its satisfactory for the most part (a few broken packages ruin my day every now and then, though), having a recent stable release would absolutely rock. I could throw it on my servers and forget about it (that is the great thing about the stable distro). Hell, I might even do the same with desktop machines.
The current stable is a bit too outdated to use as a server, so I patiently await the next release. I kinda wish their release cycle was a bit faster, it has slowed down too much. Every year would be a little bit better, rather than a whole 2 years as in this case; maybe admins who have to do the upgrades disagree? But, in any case, I understand it takes a lot of work to put out a stable release, so I can't complain really.
You lost me there. Itunes actually has all those features you mention.
True that they have all those features! Why do you think I responded to someone asking about iTunes when I am using Winamp??? I mentioned all the features that both of them have so that it can apply to iTunes too. The whole media library concept is a useful feature in any implementation.
Download both of them and try them side to side. You may not need all the features of Winamp 5, but I find them useful. YMMV
The Winamp playlist is much easier and more powerful than what iTunes has. iTunes' "Party Shuffle", gives you some of this functionality, though, but before they added that, there was nothing to match it.
Seriously, download Winamp and give it a try. I have compared with the latest iTunes, and I find Winamp to be more feature-rich and flexible. A bit more for "power-users" though, so I can see why some people may not like the interface.
Not to say iTunes sucks or anything, its a great player, and should satisfy most people. If I owned a Mac, I'd probably be using it. But I simply find Winamp 5 to offer more powerful features and a more useful interface.
As for the iTunes feature you mentioned...
BTW, Winamp does have ripping/burning in the Pro version, but that does cost $15 and I can't vouch for it. There is also an iPod plugin, but I can't vouch for it because I'm not willing to buy that overpriced, overrated player.
I don't particularly see having an online store integration as a good thing when you are locked into one store for that integration.
Is that because of the music store or because of iTunes management capabilities? Because I never got that last one - I've got a lot of music, mostly my albums on my computer - they reside on their own partition, one folder per album.
Personally, I use Winamp 5, which I think has a much better interface than iTunes, but its the same concept with its media library. I used to have all my music in folders and run them from there. But then I started using Winamp 5 and really liked the media library once I started using it. Being able to search your entire library for a song or artist and have the entire search result be your playlist is just one possibility. Bookmarks, rating songs, recently played songs, most played songs, being able to scroll through your entire library are other nice features. When you have a music collection that has become disorganized and fragmented like mine has, it helps a lot, too.
Though iTunes is lacking in comparison to Winamp 5, it is slowly catching up. But screw iTunes, I want to see Winamp 5 running on Linux!
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as far as windows is concerned is gaim better than miranda? ps. the gaim site is on it's knees.
Well, considering that Miranda is total crap, yes.
Gaim for Windows is kinda flaky though, which I believe is more the fault of GTK+ for Windows. Gaim for Linux is pretty solid.
Says who? Religion and science are not mutually exclusive, although most slashdotters' simplistic attitudes fail to reflect this.
Well true, but... Christianity and science ARE mutually exclusive.
Take a look at Eastern philosophy and you will find much of it reflected in science and many areas where it overlaps. Not so with the closed-mindedness of Christianity.
Why not just use Mozilla with KDE? Or does QT make it special in some way I don't comprehend?
KDE is good, but not quite enough to switch me from all my GTK apps, so I stuck with Gnome, because I'm running Mozilla/Firefox anyway. Having a good integrated browser (which is the most used app for me) would be enough to make me consider switching. If the file dialogs were KDE file dialogs and supports drag and drop and other possible integration features (KWallet, etc), that is a more compelling reason to be using KDE.
Ever been to Europe? I think not. Try visiting this place, while it's still legal for a US person to travel abroad without being a member of one of the two Parties.
Yes I have, many times. I love Europe, actually, and wouldn't mind moving to some of the countries there.
Workers there have a lot of protections which make it difficult for employers to get them to work. I know a lot of people working as managers in places like Belgium and Netherlands that have terrible problems getting the lazy schmucks to do anything. They take sick days constantly (there is no limit, whenever they want) and don't get any work done, but you can't fire them because there are protections in place that prevent it.
I guess people will abuse any system when they can...
This is good news to me. I tried KDE a while back, but wasn't totally satisfied with the Konqueror web browser, which to me was the missing link in all the apps. It lacked type-ahead find, had kinda awkward rendering, and a few other things I didn't like.
Now I will give it another shot once this makes it into a release. I'm a Gnome user, but I'm not married to it, KDE was very nice last time I tried it.
So that is the Brave New Workplacein America. But that is not the workplace in France, and many other countries in Europe, where 35 hours per week is the mandated maximum work week, and where everyone gets 4 to 6 weeks of time off.
Oh, please.. Europeans are mostly a bunch of lazy fucks who don't get anything done. They should hardly be considered a good example.
I think that one of the most interesting parts of this new iMac is the fact that it has air holes in the top of it so that the hot air can rise out. Now why hasn't anyone else thought of that?
I assure you it has been thought of and implemented in a variety of ways. This is in the form of both custom case mods and I believe that there are actually a few cases out there that have air holes with fans pointing straight up.
Another important factor is the amount of time that they are given to accomplish the task. Certain programmers, including many who are otherwise excellent, procrastinate and cannot meet deadlines. And, as we're aware, even good programmers often take shortcuts once fatigue begins to set in.
Procrastination isn't the problem with meeting deadlines. The true problems are:
-unrealistic expectations
-underestimated time requirements
-underestimating research/learning time
-difficulties in working in a team
-unexpected issues
-poor requirements and specifications
-inefficient feedback from the users/customers
Sure, there are the lazy-ass coders who browse the web and waste time, but even with a team of hardworking coders, you are still going to have problems meeting deadlines if they are not set realistically. Especially when you are trying to write quality software that can be easilly maintained, not just pump out some pile of horse shit that your customer will hate you for.
I was hoping for something that looked similar to this and priced similarly, but consisted of a slim, 2U sized case that could directly attach to the back of the monitor (and was designed explicitly for that purpose), but could also be purchased stand-alone and used with another monitor. I know, I know, all that junk about cutting into margins and such, but a man can dream, right?
Yeah, I wish they would produce something similar (monitor being optional is key), and I would definitely buy something like that. But Apple insists on selling you the monitor too, unless you want to pay more and get a Power Mac. That is the one thing I really dislike about Apple's line of computers.
As for the way this thing looks, I think this is the first time I've seen Apple actually take a step back as far as aesthetics is concerned. It actually has more utility, but less aesthetics. I wonder if you can remove the stand so that its easy to carry in a case. It's more like one of their laptops without the keyboard/mouse.
Has anyone used NHibernate? How does it compare to the original Java version?
Is it that hard to call a few people on the phone, or heaven forbid talk to someone at work or school to make plans? I don't understand this recent fascination with multi-tasking on your phone. I must be out of touch with the hip crowd, because I only use my phone to talk to people. No games, no sms messages, no camera.
I don't have SMS messages in my service, but I've always wanted something like this. Where I live, the nightlife is such that I find myself moving from place to place throughout the night, the plans are always pretty much as the happen, never in advance. Also, it is kinda tedious to call 25-30 people to try and invite them out somewhere, and I always end up unintentionally excluding people.
I always thought it'd be cool to have something like a group chat, where everyone gets on it when they want to find out what's happening, and they all get any SMS messages that are sent on the chat. This Dodgeball idea is good enough though, its basically just a mailing list for SMS messages, its a feature that would be nice if it was built into the phone (or the network itself), but I suppose it saves you from using up your existing messages if you don't have unlimited SMS.
Personally, I would chosen East to be the up. That way the earth would spin downwards like a waterfall. Or would that be West to make it spin downloads?
With the success of the Mozilla project, I fail to see why anyone would bother running Netscape anymore....
Some people like the fact that Netscape's installer also installs plugins such as Flash. I knew one person (a non-techie) who couldn't get Mozilla working properly, but had success with Netscape and stuck with that. Having another browser with Mozilla (or even Gecko) at its core is a good thing. Lets just hope they keep up with security patches.
Fuck all this confusion, I'm just going to switch to Firefox errr I mean Firebird.
That's great that OSS developers can influence technology. If that's enough for you, that's great. But if I write something that influences technology on a global scale, I want something more than a pat on the back and my name buried in the source code. I want to get paid for my effort/time/expertise. I can't afford to be altruistic until I don't have to worry about making mortgage payments any more.
If you were clever enough (a lot of factors involved, not just quality of the software), you could create open source software and profit off of it. That would involve being paid to work on it, selling books on it, etc.
Also, since you own the rights to it, you can relicense it and sell it as a commercial product. I've seen a few companies that are dual licensing - one GPL, one commercial; and that seems to be a good business plan.
Are you kidding? That's not complicated? The only way it could be *more* complicated and convoluted is if you were also to tell me that I need to solder something onto my motherboard to get it to work. Compare this to ASP/IIS: either it comes already installed and running, or you end up putting a CD in the drive and clicking "next" a few times.
If you want easy, install Debian and type as root:
apt-get update; apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php4-mysql libapache2-mod-php4
Say yes to any prompts and you are done! Apache2/MySQL/PHP4 will now be setup and running.
Granted we were talking about installing on Solaris here, but your monkey ass had to bring up IIS like its some wonderfully simple thing that even licks your ass for you.
Now if there were a Debian Solaris that would be sweet.
Is it really a selling point selling a laptop pre-installed with Linux because it's such a challenge otherwise?
:)
The selling point, I think, is that it is a laptop that is intended for running Linux, so you don't have to worry about lack of driver support (presumably).
As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, it is an HP, which kinda negates any possible selling point
How do you say "I want to listen to all my Depeche Mode" without hunting through the file system?
In Winamp this is just like you would in iTunes, Rhythmbox, JuK, etc... Type "Depeche Mode" into search box, hit enter, and then double click on where you want to start in the search results. You can also search by artist, song title, etc, if you want to, but I tend to not use that feature because my music is poorly tagged.
Huh? Debian unstable doesn't break often at all. In fact it hasn't broken anything for me in more than 6 months, and I do it at least weekly. Lower frequency updates obviously break things even less frequently. I have other Operating Systems break far more often when tinkering with installed packages or upgrading stuff.
Debian unstable got so messed for me that I had to do a reinstall!!! This is after spending a huge amount of effort trying solve the problems, I just gave up and reinstalled. Granted I had a few unofficial packages that may have been a factor in this. I never had the whole thing quit working, just specific packages. Reinstalling was pretty painless, though.. Unlike a certain other operating system that gets reinstalled very often.
But the most common problem is that important packages break pretty often. I've had Evolution and Gnome break on me pretty often. Other little problems. If you do dist-upgrade's you can sometimes really fuck yourself up (a broken dependency can hurt a ton of packages), normal upgrades still can hurt, the problems are just isolated to the affected packages. It's usually only a few days before things get fixed.
As always, those of you who whine about Debian being out of date have probably never looked at the packages available in unstable and testing. Debian is a very fine distro for even desktop use.
Though I use unstable on my desktop, and its satisfactory for the most part (a few broken packages ruin my day every now and then, though), having a recent stable release would absolutely rock. I could throw it on my servers and forget about it (that is the great thing about the stable distro). Hell, I might even do the same with desktop machines.
The current stable is a bit too outdated to use as a server, so I patiently await the next release. I kinda wish their release cycle was a bit faster, it has slowed down too much. Every year would be a little bit better, rather than a whole 2 years as in this case; maybe admins who have to do the upgrades disagree? But, in any case, I understand it takes a lot of work to put out a stable release, so I can't complain really.
You lost me there. Itunes actually has all those features you mention.
True that they have all those features! Why do you think I responded to someone asking about iTunes when I am using Winamp??? I mentioned all the features that both of them have so that it can apply to iTunes too. The whole media library concept is a useful feature in any implementation.
Download both of them and try them side to side. You may not need all the features of Winamp 5, but I find them useful. YMMV
Lacking in what way exactly?
The Winamp playlist is much easier and more powerful than what iTunes has. iTunes' "Party Shuffle", gives you some of this functionality, though, but before they added that, there was nothing to match it.
Seriously, download Winamp and give it a try. I have compared with the latest iTunes, and I find Winamp to be more feature-rich and flexible. A bit more for "power-users" though, so I can see why some people may not like the interface.
Not to say iTunes sucks or anything, its a great player, and should satisfy most people. If I owned a Mac, I'd probably be using it. But I simply find Winamp 5 to offer more powerful features and a more useful interface.
As for the iTunes feature you mentioned...
BTW, Winamp does have ripping/burning in the Pro version, but that does cost $15 and I can't vouch for it. There is also an iPod plugin, but I can't vouch for it because I'm not willing to buy that overpriced, overrated player.
I don't particularly see having an online store integration as a good thing when you are locked into one store for that integration.
Is that because of the music store or because of iTunes management capabilities? Because I never got that last one - I've got a lot of music, mostly my albums on my computer - they reside on their own partition, one folder per album.
Personally, I use Winamp 5, which I think has a much better interface than iTunes, but its the same concept with its media library. I used to have all my music in folders and run them from there. But then I started using Winamp 5 and really liked the media library once I started using it. Being able to search your entire library for a song or artist and have the entire search result be your playlist is just one possibility. Bookmarks, rating songs, recently played songs, most played songs, being able to scroll through your entire library are other nice features. When you have a music collection that has become disorganized and fragmented like mine has, it helps a lot, too.
Though iTunes is lacking in comparison to Winamp 5, it is slowly catching up. But screw iTunes, I want to see Winamp 5 running on Linux!
More defense and limitations are good, sure, but why filter by OS?
:)
It's so we can block out all those Linux machines, because we all know that's where the hackers are coming from
how the hell do you spend 71% of your time playing solitaire and not get sick of it? I mean there are so many other things you can waste time on.