You talk about knee-jerk reactions, but then you continue to try to discredit any objection to this legislation by stereotyping the dissentors as pasty-skinned, 40 year old single guys who live with thier mothers. Your argument bares no logical sense whatsoever. The truth is that those objecting to this legislation are privacy advocates that are well-informed enought to understand the precedent this technology can set and the historical perspective of such a technology.
Also, you have completely missed the point. Scanning the card everytime you walk into a bar or buy a six-pack at the grocery store would take YOUR NAME and a UNIQUE ID number. (This was stated right in the article). This DOES ammount to a national database. Privacy advocates such as us on slashdot realize the potential for abuse this poses, not only from gov't but from marketers and corporations who have proven themselves to be even less scrupulous in their actions to the public. A national ID card is a privacy concern, one that we have never been forced to have in the past and that we don't want now.
Your post is nothing more than an uninformed, and to borrow your own phrase, knee-jerk attempt at silencing dissident opinion.
We Americans go around butting into every damn country's business we can find, put military bases in every little nook and crany of the earth, piss off damn-near everyone at one time or another, elect idiots that couldn't give a shit less about us, piss all over our own rights, and then Canadians say, "Hey, just come up north with us, Yank. We haven't fucked everything up here."
R and NC-17 ratings aren't technically enforceable either. A 7 year old could theoretically walk up and buy a ticket to go see "Swallow the Leader" or "Saving Ryan's Privates". The rating system is an agreed upon, industry standard.
Now, if you as a theater owner actually let little Timmy or Suzy into see "THE ANAL GIRLS OF TOBACCO ROAD 2 : VAGINA SLIMES", then you could sure as hell get prosecuted for corrupting a minor, but only to the degree that the content of the movie violated the generally accepted standards of decency of your community. There is nothing inherently illegal about allowing people under 17 to see an NC-17 rated movie, per se. It's the 'content' of a movie like "MOULIN SPLOOGE" that is illegal.
Alright, and since everyone's already dying to chip in, let's hear your own best, bad-pun porn titles. C'mon, you all know this game.
That's funny, I bought a returned an iPod shuffle exactly one day later precisely because of the software. I don't like iTunes. I don't like the way it works and keeps track of my files. I don't like the fact that it runs a memory footprint over 25mb. I don't like that it crashes my system if I try to open the program with any cd in my cdrom drive (a strange bug that seems to be particular to IBM's which I cannot figure out how to fix). The outside of the box says "System Requirements: iTunes", and I prefer choice. So I chose to go with a different product.
Also, it seems to me the entire "Life is Random" shuffle marketing campaign was just a way to market a flash player without an LCD screen. Granted, Shuffle's ARE cheaper than comparitively sized flash-based mp3 players with screens. But isn't the lcd screen that allows you to scroll and play songs the ESSENSE of what makes a flash mp3 player handy and cool? Personally, I think the Shuffle was marketed better than it was designed.
The regular iPod's were designed great. But I still don't like being consigned to iTunes.
I don't want to carry around my camera.
Cell Phone Camera's suck.
I don't want a bulky portable music player.
Then try one of the billions of tiny ones.
I don't want to have to stay in my office to stay in touch.
Let's be realistic, OWA through a cell phone browser would be pretty much worthless.
I don't want to have to call a recording service to check movie times.
This one is just weird. Check em on the internet before you leave the office. Browsing the web on a cell phone is one of the most painful pointless experiences I have ever engaged in.
I don't want to have to buy cargo pants and add pockets.
Yeah, I don't have anything contradictory to say to that.
Assuming that dragging a message to the recycle bin takes on average exactly.65 seconds, (I downloaded and installed AOL and ran a series of metrics to come up with.65) then we are talking about a 41,222 year, 266 day, 7 hour, 6 minute and 40 second sentence. That's pretty harsh. Maybe you should reconsider that.
My understanding of the "deception" clause in the CAN-SPAM ACT is that it must be proven that the accused used deceptive marketing tactics in their SPAMs to get a person to purchase something. I assume that this is to protect real online marketers from prosecution.
If Smathers only sold lists, then I'm guess the Judge decided that he didn't fit under the CAN-SPAM ACT, but rather should be tried for breaking and entering on AOL's systems and theft of their intellectual property and fraud, and etc.
Since there's basically no chance in hell that I'm going to install a beta toolbar from Microsoft or anyone else, I decided to follow the Online Tour. I get to the second page and see the example search for 'beatles' revealing "Beatles - Let it be.wma". Out of absolute shear coincidence, I had just come back from a nasty Statistics final and was listening at that very moment to The Beatles' "Let It Be".
I've never gone scurrying for my tinfoil hat so frantically in my life.
Yeah, once again, all of that really doesn't make a difference to me if none of it works ten minutes outside of my home city. Now, it may very well be a wonderful opportunity for both companies, but its really not the sort of thing that's helping me out to any great extent.
Yeah, there are a LOT of situations around the country where one company is dominant in the non-metropolitan areas. In my area, (and well, many others) Alltel is the only provider that will cover you out in BFE. But if you look at the two coverage maps for Sprint and Nextel, you will see that they are already catering to all the metropolitan areas around the country. My point was that instead of buying a company that has basically already done exactly what they are doing with a completely non-compatible technology, they should invest that money in their own company, expand their network and give the people in the rural areas competition and choice.
I would personally much rather see Sprint teaming up with a carrier that actually has decent coverage in more rural areas. In my opinion, for the demographic Sprint caters to, they should be focusing more on expanding their network off of the major metropolitan areas and putting investment into their own company instead of trying to buy up some non-compatible competitor. What possible good could this do me as a Sprint user?
Its kind of hard to take them seriously about building a dictionary when they use poor grammar in their faq. I'm a little uncertain on the future of this project.
For anyone out there not familiar with cockney rhyming slang, I do believe that "porkies" would be referring to "pork pies" which rhymes with "lies" which is what the parent was referring to.
Finally, I knew there was a reason a sat through all three Austin Powers movies . . .
"Beware of Spam emails offering software prices that are too good to be true. There is a high risk that these software titles are counterfeit or infringing."
Exactly. By the time that they can create computerized cars that alert one another of events occuring around them and keep it all synchronized as to decrease the amount of traffic jams going on, we ought to damn well be able to come up with a transportation system more efficient than cars.
Yeah, that's true. But then all of those people you named, the drunk ones and tired ones, etc. choose to be drunk or otherwise not in the optimal situation to be driving. They are trusting themselves when they shouldn't. Now, THEY are responsible. Responsible for their own life, responsible for anyone else's the injure. Now, if your computer fails, who's responsible? It think the problem is, (at least in my country, the US) people are obsessed with accountability. Anytime there is a collision, someone must receive the ticket. Someone, has to be responsible.
Do you think that the MPAA will have the kahunas to name this program of theirs "TombRaider - Lara Croft.mpg" and get it out all over the P2P networks wherever they can? Thoughts anyone?
Even less likly but probably a lot more effective would be to name it "TombRaider - XXX Lara Croft Nude!!!!!!!!!! XXX.mpg".
True. But what the hell would be the point of that? Nobody needs to defeat a hash search. If you don't want the program to delete copyrighted files from your computer, you're not going to be running the program. Nobody is out there right now thinking, "Shit, I better find some way to obfuscate the hash codes to my files because I plan to download and run that MPAA program tomorrow."
Unless you fear your sysadmin might do it. Then, kindly disregard this point.;-)
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You talk about knee-jerk reactions, but then you continue to try to discredit any objection to this legislation by stereotyping the dissentors as pasty-skinned, 40 year old single guys who live with thier mothers. Your argument bares no logical sense whatsoever. The truth is that those objecting to this legislation are privacy advocates that are well-informed enought to understand the precedent this technology can set and the historical perspective of such a technology.
Also, you have completely missed the point. Scanning the card everytime you walk into a bar or buy a six-pack at the grocery store would take YOUR NAME and a UNIQUE ID number. (This was stated right in the article). This DOES ammount to a national database. Privacy advocates such as us on slashdot realize the potential for abuse this poses, not only from gov't but from marketers and corporations who have proven themselves to be even less scrupulous in their actions to the public. A national ID card is a privacy concern, one that we have never been forced to have in the past and that we don't want now.
Your post is nothing more than an uninformed, and to borrow your own phrase, knee-jerk attempt at silencing dissident opinion.
I love you Canadians.
We Americans go around butting into every damn country's business we can find, put military bases in every little nook and crany of the earth, piss off damn-near everyone at one time or another, elect idiots that couldn't give a shit less about us, piss all over our own rights, and then Canadians say, "Hey, just come up north with us, Yank. We haven't fucked everything up here."
God Bless you Kanuks.
R and NC-17 ratings aren't technically enforceable either. A 7 year old could theoretically walk up and buy a ticket to go see "Swallow the Leader" or "Saving Ryan's Privates". The rating system is an agreed upon, industry standard.
Now, if you as a theater owner actually let little Timmy or Suzy into see "THE ANAL GIRLS OF TOBACCO ROAD 2 : VAGINA SLIMES", then you could sure as hell get prosecuted for corrupting a minor, but only to the degree that the content of the movie violated the generally accepted standards of decency of your community. There is nothing inherently illegal about allowing people under 17 to see an NC-17 rated movie, per se. It's the 'content' of a movie like "MOULIN SPLOOGE" that is illegal.
Alright, and since everyone's already dying to chip in, let's hear your own best, bad-pun porn titles. C'mon, you all know this game.
I was downloading Firefox and exactly 8:58am!
So, what do I win?
That's funny, I bought a returned an iPod shuffle exactly one day later precisely because of the software. I don't like iTunes. I don't like the way it works and keeps track of my files. I don't like the fact that it runs a memory footprint over 25mb. I don't like that it crashes my system if I try to open the program with any cd in my cdrom drive (a strange bug that seems to be particular to IBM's which I cannot figure out how to fix). The outside of the box says "System Requirements: iTunes", and I prefer choice. So I chose to go with a different product.
Also, it seems to me the entire "Life is Random" shuffle marketing campaign was just a way to market a flash player without an LCD screen. Granted, Shuffle's ARE cheaper than comparitively sized flash-based mp3 players with screens. But isn't the lcd screen that allows you to scroll and play songs the ESSENSE of what makes a flash mp3 player handy and cool? Personally, I think the Shuffle was marketed better than it was designed.
The regular iPod's were designed great. But I still don't like being consigned to iTunes.
. . . and then after class you promptly had your underwear pulled over your head and were slammed in your locker.
I know . . . I know . . .
Why the *FUCK* do you all know all this!!!
I'm guessing HE (the author's SO) DOES walk SF's Tenderloin after dark in a halter, leather mini & fishnets every night.
I don't want to carry around my camera.
Cell Phone Camera's suck.
I don't want a bulky portable music player.
Then try one of the billions of tiny ones.
I don't want to have to stay in my office to stay in touch.
Let's be realistic, OWA through a cell phone browser would be pretty much worthless.
I don't want to have to call a recording service to check movie times.
This one is just weird. Check em on the internet before you leave the office. Browsing the web on a cell phone is one of the most painful pointless experiences I have ever engaged in.
I don't want to have to buy cargo pants and add pockets.
Yeah, I don't have anything contradictory to say to that.
Assuming that dragging a message to the recycle bin takes on average exactly .65 seconds, (I downloaded and installed AOL and ran a series of metrics to come up with .65) then we are talking about a 41,222 year, 266 day, 7 hour, 6 minute and 40 second sentence. That's pretty harsh. Maybe you should reconsider that.
Also . . . I am so very very lonely.
That doesn't deserve a troll.
Couldn't resist. ;-)
Alright, now go ahead and mod me down you fuckers.
My understanding of the "deception" clause in the CAN-SPAM ACT is that it must be proven that the accused used deceptive marketing tactics in their SPAMs to get a person to purchase something. I assume that this is to protect real online marketers from prosecution.
If Smathers only sold lists, then I'm guess the Judge decided that he didn't fit under the CAN-SPAM ACT, but rather should be tried for breaking and entering on AOL's systems and theft of their intellectual property and fraud, and etc.
Since there's basically no chance in hell that I'm going to install a beta toolbar from Microsoft or anyone else, I decided to follow the Online Tour. I get to the second page and see the example search for 'beatles' revealing "Beatles - Let it be.wma". Out of absolute shear coincidence, I had just come back from a nasty Statistics final and was listening at that very moment to The Beatles' "Let It Be".
I've never gone scurrying for my tinfoil hat so frantically in my life.
Yeah, once again, all of that really doesn't make a difference to me if none of it works ten minutes outside of my home city. Now, it may very well be a wonderful opportunity for both companies, but its really not the sort of thing that's helping me out to any great extent.
Yeah, there are a LOT of situations around the country where one company is dominant in the non-metropolitan areas. In my area, (and well, many others) Alltel is the only provider that will cover you out in BFE. But if you look at the two coverage maps for Sprint and Nextel, you will see that they are already catering to all the metropolitan areas around the country. My point was that instead of buying a company that has basically already done exactly what they are doing with a completely non-compatible technology, they should invest that money in their own company, expand their network and give the people in the rural areas competition and choice.
I would personally much rather see Sprint teaming up with a carrier that actually has decent coverage in more rural areas. In my opinion, for the demographic Sprint caters to, they should be focusing more on expanding their network off of the major metropolitan areas and putting investment into their own company instead of trying to buy up some non-compatible competitor. What possible good could this do me as a Sprint user?
"English more simple than other languages"
Its kind of hard to take them seriously about building a dictionary when they use poor grammar in their faq. I'm a little uncertain on the future of this project.
I tried executing the exploit using Lynx 2.8.5 and I couldn't get the damn thing to work either!
"You've been telling porkies"
For anyone out there not familiar with cockney rhyming slang, I do believe that "porkies" would be referring to "pork pies" which rhymes with "lies" which is what the parent was referring to.
Finally, I knew there was a reason a sat through all three Austin Powers movies . . .
From another page on Microsoft's piracy pages:
"Beware of Spam emails offering software prices that are too good to be true. There is a high risk that these software titles are counterfeit or infringing."
I guess I better turn in my University:
OFFICE X (for MAC OS X only) $8.49
OFFICE 2002 (XP) PROFESSIONAL $9.99
OFFICE 2003 PROFESSIONAL $9.99
WINDOWS XP PROF. UPGRADE $4.99
Exactly. By the time that they can create computerized cars that alert one another of events occuring around them and keep it all synchronized as to decrease the amount of traffic jams going on, we ought to damn well be able to come up with a transportation system more efficient than cars.
Yeah, that's true. But then all of those people you named, the drunk ones and tired ones, etc. choose to be drunk or otherwise not in the optimal situation to be driving. They are trusting themselves when they shouldn't. Now, THEY are responsible. Responsible for their own life, responsible for anyone else's the injure. Now, if your computer fails, who's responsible? It think the problem is, (at least in my country, the US) people are obsessed with accountability. Anytime there is a collision, someone must receive the ticket. Someone, has to be responsible.
Do you think that the MPAA will have the kahunas to name this program of theirs "TombRaider - Lara Croft.mpg" and get it out all over the P2P networks wherever they can? Thoughts anyone?
Even less likly but probably a lot more effective would be to name it "TombRaider - XXX Lara Croft Nude!!!!!!!!!! XXX.mpg".
True. But what the hell would be the point of that? Nobody needs to defeat a hash search. If you don't want the program to delete copyrighted files from your computer, you're not going to be running the program. Nobody is out there right now thinking, "Shit, I better find some way to obfuscate the hash codes to my files because I plan to download and run that MPAA program tomorrow."
;-)
Unless you fear your sysadmin might do it. Then, kindly disregard this point.