If the parent post you were responding to was the actual article, then yes I read it. If you were responding to another post, you might take a second look at your original post... it's at the top level.
No, I did not miss your statementat the end of your post. No I was not flaming you. You stated that "in your experience" Mac OS had very poor multitasking. You didnt need to state that you hadn't tried OS X, that is self evident. I was merely pointing out that OS X has outstanding multitasking (and stability).
Jeesh, what are you so defensive about? Afraid your IT manager might have dinner and drinks with another OS?
Not having used OS 10.x, I was hoping to hear that multitasking would have improved
When you look up... do you see a large granite object? I will assume that this is the case, so let me be the first to inform you that BSD errr... I mean OSX has in fact, 'improved' multitasking over your experience with OS 9 or earlier.
Drawing any conclusions about the Mac platform based on experiences with OS 9 or earlier is much like concluding that Automobiles are not useful based on your experience with a motorized skateboard.
Rambling statements aside, on my 5 year old G3 (400mhz) I happily run updates, VirtualPC with WinXP, edit my Photoshop files, use Terminal with all its Unix-y goodness, browse the net, listen to music, and play a game of DiabloII... yes, at the same time.
Now your windows machine can do all that too, but you'd need two OS's to do it
This is good news, and cheaper products are good for the consumer since it pulls the price down on higher end products. As for 'bang for the buck' perfomance...
A VIA processor is a viable chip, but for just a bit more you can get a lot more horsepower. A new iBook can be had for $999, and a used one is substantially cheaper. Arguably the most bang for the buck in a portable factor, and if you must have Linux rather than OSX, GENTOO or Yellowdog would fit the bill perfectly.
If you must have x86, a quick look at celron and atlon based notebooks on Pricewatch.com will turn up identical prices to this unit, and they omit the MS tax as well.
I will admit that I havent seen the actual performance breakdowns for the VIA processors, but have read brief reviews and have gotten the impression that they are functional, but weak
The ultimate value is still provided by the Abacus (the actual wooden bead thingy)
The gov asks Billy what is best for their PC's and Billy advises a substantial deposit into his bank account.
While I would hope that anyone advising the government would have our best interests at heart, I have to admit, if they were to ask me what was best, I would say that a substantial deposit into MY account would ensure national safety... hey, I'm only human!
I seem to recall some rediculous test of a Gateway flatpanel iMac wannabe, where the machines were compared by examining start-up times. The catch? The iMac was timed until classic desktop was completely started, as in; the iMac had booted two OS's in slightly more time than the Gateway had booted one.
The gateway is therefore 1.6 times faster!
Is the G5 only 1.8 times faster than the P4 rather than the 2.1 times faster that I was lead to believe?
First nVidia, now this... how am I supposed to go bankrupt buying more computing power than I could ever hope to use?
seriously... so now we might think that in real world usage, the G5 is maybe just a little faster than the x86 competition instead of a S*** load faster. Considering the performance point of Apple's previous offerings, I'm not exactly dissapointed
RDRAM is proprietary and not an open standard, and it has a licensing scheme that makes the RIAA look like mild mannered buisiness men. RDRAM is faster clock cycle but but with narrower (much narrower) pipes, resulting in equal or slightly lower perfomance than DDR ram.
DDR is much more likely to become/remain the industry standard in RAM, and it is no longer the apple policy to use non-standard hardware.
RDRAM is faster than DDR like a 3.0Ghz P4 is faster than a 2.0Ghz G5 ; )
Well, i see where you are going, but as long as you have a decent OS with good VM handling, and a mediocre amount of RAM installed, why not just have the apps run at startup (mine have been running for many months now)...
having these apps work as a plug-in to your browser might be best for you and others, but i personally prefer the discreet apps to handle their discreet files, combined with the ability to preview, review, and select in columns view. Then I can focus full attention on the file in question within its discreet app.
As for modding Safari to allow this kind of capability, there are a multitude of daemons that represent your media on a local (127.0.0.1:someport) webpage (iTunes, MP3Sushi). Any browser will render a.txt file, Quicktime allows Safari to view any movie file without encapsulating HTML.
All that is lacking is the ability to navigate the filesystem from within Safari. Again, this is easily handled with a little CGI in your Apache CGI folder to read the tree and represent everything as links. (UGH... navigating the FS as HTML).
if you need to get around the FS, column view is the fastest, simplest, easiest way to do it, and I doubt any HTML based alternative would really compete.
All of this is strictly my opinion, and I would never presume to tell anyone that I know what is best for you. As for me, I think the browser should be for the internet... not the local FS
Well spoken!
Either slashdot should retract all articles that might be read on other news sites, or at least apologise profusely for being so redundant.
In fact, Slashdot should really just close up shop since all they do is repeat articles and news easily gleaned from browsing through 5 or 10 thousand websites, and a few hundred newsgroups.
Admit it Slashdot, you're just a wanna be;)
Some of you know this, many of you dont. Unlike other OS updates, this one is NOT focused on heaping on more and more useless features.
There will be some 'fleshing out' of existing apps, utilities, and functionality (such a video in iChat, better spam filtering and mail sorting, full version of Safari, and some new ways to navigate files (for the kindergarten set)). The bulk of this upgrade is 'rumored' to be under the hood.
reports on some rumor sites claim to have seen pre-releases of 10.3 running exponentially faster than 10.2, even on older G3 machines. These screenshots fail in conveying the efficiency of the quartz rendering system, and how in 10.1 it was mostly a proof of concept, in 10.2 it was beta at best, and in 10.3 it will finally be mature. Combine that with serious optimizations to the finder and dock, and its not hard to imagine 10.3 running rings around 10.2 or earlier, and even matching or exceeding speed of XP's finder (and all this with a far simpler interface than XP's convoluted birdsnest of navigation options).
Will it cost? you bet! we will pay (or at least 'borrow' a paid copy) for this update, Apple has learned a lesson from the darkside... if they produce it, eventually you (Mac Users) will buy it.
Will it be worth the cost? IMHO no question of it, as long as it meets 1/10'th of the rumored expectations
We are not accessing anybody's "property," and we are certainly not violating anybody's personal rights. We are doing exactly the same thing that every other infringer is doing.
In a surprising move, the RIAA has filed suit forcing Verizon to reveal the names of the RIAA members involved in these illegal "dispicable and unwarranted attacks" on intellectual property rights.
Use your head first, voice second, and balls third. This is your workplace not the playground, and you are facing off with your source of income, not the neighborhood bully.
First be sure that you have discussed the situation with your boss. Be sure to include statements like you included in the article (the positive ones only!!!) and more, like "love working here", "feel that I am making an important contribution" blah, blah, blah.
After (and only after) affirming your positive attitude towards the company should you breach the problem. In this case, simply inform that the demands of your current workload exceed the available manpower in the department, and while you are willing to do everything you can, you are not superman.
Finally there is the business-meeting trump card. Repeat after me "This situation is causing a serious negative impact on my FAMILY".
This is a key phrase in negotiations, because it shows you are not being selfish and self-serving, and that you have problems that even your boss can relate to.
If this meeting fails to produce results, go to your bosses boss, and on up the line. Remember, walking out will result 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time with you in the unemployment line (except you cant collect if you quit). FAR FAR FAR better to push the issue to its very limit and get fired first. (getting fired for an acceptable reason as stated in your question is always going to look better than someone who 'gives up on the company' to a new potenetial employer).
Finally, remember that loads and loads of money can make most work situations bearable... if you can get a substantial (30-50%) raise out of it, you will find that the work is pretty bearable. And dont let anyone convince you that because they are laying ppl off, there is no money for raises, the layoffs are freeing up money that could just as easily go to you as it can toward the CEO's beach house.
Good luck and good job hunting!!!!
so the pimple-faced cashier at my local taco bell will now spend 20 minutes staring blankly at the register rather than the 15 minutes he currently spends on this activity.
Efficiency is great but give me a hot gordita anyday
As the chair of my neighborhood gardenclub, we have been considering implementing a new server rack with either Win3k and MSSQL to track the movment and eating habits of chinch bugs. Given our modest budget, it currently looks as though we will have to forgo using MS products in favor of OSS/FS alternatives. Can I have my free software now?
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Please stop trolling with the same post.
You have posted this 'reply' verbatim in more than one article.
The Mac you are using is obsolete, the OS on it is obsolete, and the PCs you are comparing it to is obsolete Have you been posting this reply since 1999 or what?
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This book looks nice, but it seems like there are just a load of references to third party apps and what they do rather than actual 'hacks'.
Seems like "Intro to OS X and Assorted Utilities" might be a more accurate name for it.
At 8k per speaker, and I only need seven for my in-home theatre... yup, spending 56k on speakers will definitely result in my fiancee leaving me. Thank B&O!
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Quit crying you baby
If the parent post you were responding to was the actual article, then yes I read it. If you were responding to another post, you might take a second look at your original post... it's at the top level.
No, I did not miss your statementat the end of your post. No I was not flaming you. You stated that "in your experience" Mac OS had very poor multitasking. You didnt need to state that you hadn't tried OS X, that is self evident. I was merely pointing out that OS X has outstanding multitasking (and stability).
Jeesh, what are you so defensive about? Afraid your IT manager might have dinner and drinks with another OS?
I will assume that this is the case, so let me be the first to inform you that BSD errr... I mean OSX has in fact, 'improved' multitasking over your experience with OS 9 or earlier.
Drawing any conclusions about the Mac platform based on experiences with OS 9 or earlier is much like concluding that Automobiles are not useful based on your experience with a motorized skateboard.
Rambling statements aside, on my 5 year old G3 (400mhz) I happily run updates, VirtualPC with WinXP, edit my Photoshop files, use Terminal with all its Unix-y goodness, browse the net, listen to music, and play a game of DiabloII... yes, at the same time.
Now your windows machine can do all that too, but you'd need two OS's to do it
A VIA processor is a viable chip, but for just a bit more you can get a lot more horsepower. A new iBook can be had for $999, and a used one is substantially cheaper. Arguably the most bang for the buck in a portable factor, and if you must have Linux rather than OSX, GENTOO or Yellowdog would fit the bill perfectly.
If you must have x86, a quick look at celron and atlon based notebooks on Pricewatch.com will turn up identical prices to this unit, and they omit the MS tax as well.
I will admit that I havent seen the actual performance breakdowns for the VIA processors, but have read brief reviews and have gotten the impression that they are functional, but weak
The ultimate value is still provided by the Abacus (the actual wooden bead thingy)
And what is it that is NOT happening again?
The gov asks Billy what is best for their PC's and Billy advises a substantial deposit into his bank account.
While I would hope that anyone advising the government would have our best interests at heart, I have to admit, if they were to ask me what was best, I would say that a substantial deposit into MY account would ensure national safety... hey, I'm only human!I seem to recall some rediculous test of a Gateway flatpanel iMac wannabe, where the machines were compared by examining start-up times. The catch? The iMac was timed until classic desktop was completely started, as in; the iMac had booted two OS's in slightly more time than the Gateway had booted one.
The gateway is therefore 1.6 times faster!
First nVidia, now this... how am I supposed to go bankrupt buying more computing power than I could ever hope to use?
seriously... so now we might think that in real world usage, the G5 is maybe just a little faster than the x86 competition instead of a S*** load faster. Considering the performance point of Apple's previous offerings, I'm not exactly dissapointed
RDRAM is proprietary and not an open standard, and it has a licensing scheme that makes the RIAA look like mild mannered buisiness men. RDRAM is faster clock cycle but but with narrower (much narrower) pipes, resulting in equal or slightly lower perfomance than DDR ram.
DDR is much more likely to become/remain the industry standard in RAM, and it is no longer the apple policy to use non-standard hardware.
RDRAM is faster than DDR like a 3.0Ghz P4 is faster than a 2.0Ghz G5 ; )
This one has been in development for a long time, and might yet solidify itself from the vapor surrounding the project.
http://minipc.vulcan.com/default.asp
So for $26 a pop... Will the real Mr. President please stand up? Uh, ok, can you show me your proof of ID?
Well, i see where you are going, but as long as you have a decent OS with good VM handling, and a mediocre amount of RAM installed, why not just have the apps run at startup (mine have been running for many months now)... .txt file, Quicktime allows Safari to view any movie file without encapsulating HTML.
having these apps work as a plug-in to your browser might be best for you and others, but i personally prefer the discreet apps to handle their discreet files, combined with the ability to preview, review, and select in columns view. Then I can focus full attention on the file in question within its discreet app.
As for modding Safari to allow this kind of capability, there are a multitude of daemons that represent your media on a local (127.0.0.1:someport) webpage (iTunes, MP3Sushi). Any browser will render a
All that is lacking is the ability to navigate the filesystem from within Safari. Again, this is easily handled with a little CGI in your Apache CGI folder to read the tree and represent everything as links. (UGH... navigating the FS as HTML).
if you need to get around the FS, column view is the fastest, simplest, easiest way to do it, and I doubt any HTML based alternative would really compete.
All of this is strictly my opinion, and I would never presume to tell anyone that I know what is best for you. As for me, I think the browser should be for the internet... not the local FS
as in the columns view? where you can preview nearly any file??
Well spoken! ;)
Either slashdot should retract all articles that might be read on other news sites, or at least apologise profusely for being so redundant.
In fact, Slashdot should really just close up shop since all they do is repeat articles and news easily gleaned from browsing through 5 or 10 thousand websites, and a few hundred newsgroups.
Admit it Slashdot, you're just a wanna be
Some of you know this, many of you dont. Unlike other OS updates, this one is NOT focused on heaping on more and more useless features.
There will be some 'fleshing out' of existing apps, utilities, and functionality (such a video in iChat, better spam filtering and mail sorting, full version of Safari, and some new ways to navigate files (for the kindergarten set)). The bulk of this upgrade is 'rumored' to be under the hood.
reports on some rumor sites claim to have seen pre-releases of 10.3 running exponentially faster than 10.2, even on older G3 machines. These screenshots fail in conveying the efficiency of the quartz rendering system, and how in 10.1 it was mostly a proof of concept, in 10.2 it was beta at best, and in 10.3 it will finally be mature. Combine that with serious optimizations to the finder and dock, and its not hard to imagine 10.3 running rings around 10.2 or earlier, and even matching or exceeding speed of XP's finder (and all this with a far simpler interface than XP's convoluted birdsnest of navigation options).
Will it cost? you bet! we will pay (or at least 'borrow' a paid copy) for this update, Apple has learned a lesson from the darkside... if they produce it, eventually you (Mac Users) will buy it.
Will it be worth the cost? IMHO no question of it, as long as it meets 1/10'th of the rumored expectations
Use your head first, voice second, and balls third. This is your workplace not the playground, and you are facing off with your source of income, not the neighborhood bully.
First be sure that you have discussed the situation with your boss. Be sure to include statements like you included in the article (the positive ones only!!!) and more, like "love working here", "feel that I am making an important contribution" blah, blah, blah.
After (and only after) affirming your positive attitude towards the company should you breach the problem. In this case, simply inform that the demands of your current workload exceed the available manpower in the department, and while you are willing to do everything you can, you are not superman.
Finally there is the business-meeting trump card. Repeat after me "This situation is causing a serious negative impact on my FAMILY".
This is a key phrase in negotiations, because it shows you are not being selfish and self-serving, and that you have problems that even your boss can relate to.
If this meeting fails to produce results, go to your bosses boss, and on up the line. Remember, walking out will result 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time with you in the unemployment line (except you cant collect if you quit). FAR FAR FAR better to push the issue to its very limit and get fired first. (getting fired for an acceptable reason as stated in your question is always going to look better than someone who 'gives up on the company' to a new potenetial employer).
Finally, remember that loads and loads of money can make most work situations bearable... if you can get a substantial (30-50%) raise out of it, you will find that the work is pretty bearable. And dont let anyone convince you that because they are laying ppl off, there is no money for raises, the layoffs are freeing up money that could just as easily go to you as it can toward the CEO's beach house.
Good luck and good job hunting!!!!
so the pimple-faced cashier at my local taco bell will now spend 20 minutes staring blankly at the register rather than the 15 minutes he currently spends on this activity.
Efficiency is great but give me a hot gordita anyday
As the chair of my neighborhood gardenclub, we have been considering implementing a new server rack with either Win3k and MSSQL to track the movment and eating habits of chinch bugs. Given our modest budget, it currently looks as though we will have to forgo using MS products in favor of OSS/FS alternatives. Can I have my free software now?
What does M.A.C. stand for? and what is it?
Please stop trolling with the same post.
You have posted this 'reply' verbatim in more than one article.
The Mac you are using is obsolete, the OS on it is obsolete, and the PCs you are comparing it to is obsolete
Have you been posting this reply since 1999 or what?
This book looks nice, but it seems like there are just a load of references to third party apps and what they do rather than actual 'hacks'.
Seems like "Intro to OS X and Assorted Utilities" might be a more accurate name for it.
give me shot from that hemp weapon!
At 8k per speaker, and I only need seven for my in-home theatre... yup, spending 56k on speakers will definitely result in my fiancee leaving me. Thank B&O!
Fly me to the moon... Let me pay to see the stars