This is true, but how do you think we manage to sell people 5Mb connections for $40/month?
Then don't advertise something that it's not. Say it's a 5mbit burstable connection and 1mbit sustained. Or say right there on your advertisement, "We are like every other ISP and oversell our bandwidth and then cry later when people use it." I'd have more respect for your whining.
Yes, you will lose customers but they will be in the 10% bracket that you don't want anyway. Let those people use real ISPs and let your lame ISP cater to the Mom and Pop's that check e-mail, CNN, and look at porn while the wife is out at her book club once a week.
They can still sell their commercial products through that chain.
I want to know how many users they actually have and how many of those users would buy commercial software via CNR. I just can't see them having that many total users, nevermind total users that will actually buy this stuff.
And the best part of it was, even after 5 years of heavy single user printing (I would estimate somewhere in the range of 500k sheets) I only used two print cartridges!
Yes, you did have to swap in and out for color but I rarely used it in color mode.
Well, given that 80% of their $5.6 billion in operating profit (from TFA) is derived from ink and toner, they are not going to allow it to slip away. Otherwise they could potentially lose about $4bn in profit.
And that is exactly why I buy a new HP deskjet printer every single time it runs out of ink. They are $10 less than a new print cartridge and I *usually* end up with a free USB cable out of the deal.
I bought an HP Deskjet 400C on the first day of college in 1997. It worked for 5 years. While printing the 40th copy of my final paper in college it died. Literally pieces of metal started rolling out w/the paper. I haven't found a single non-laser printer that will last more than 5 weeks.
I'm happy to continue taking their money when I buy a new printer each time.
The sad part about this is that Yahoo maps is soo bad.. And the flash-based beta version is even worse, it looks like a cheap rip-off of google maps, but that doesn't work properly. Any Yahooer should be ashamed of it. They can't do AJAX like Google. Shame on Yahoo.
Note: I use Google Maps constantly as part of my job and personal use.
ask.com's map stuff is *far* superior to Google Maps for the general user. Not only are their maps more up to date (and allow for zooming in further in more areas) but it works just as smoothly.
Google should be *ashamed* that ask.com has a product that is even close to theirs nevermind beating it:(
None of your comments have anything to do with GNU/Linux [I say GNU because many things like cameras are dealt with in the userspace].
Thanks for proving why *I* don't recommend Linux to regular old computer users. Without the software base out there, shit just doesn't magically work and that's what people expect.
Even after 10 years running Linux, I had to fuck around for three days reading up on stuff to figure out what the hell was broken. I have a feeling that 99% of people out there don't give a enough of a fuck to do that. Believe me, even after 10 years, I was certainly ready to throw in the towel;)
Seriously, could someone explain to me the slashdot editors' obsession with junk science, specifically perpetual motion and free energy machines, and the like?
1. The Slashdot "editors" are just as much "junk" as this science.
2. As of right now there are 189+ comments posted under this pile of shit story.
3. Obviously there is some draw for them to post this crap, after all, you are posting and got a +5.
Um, high prices, yet PS3 will dominate? MS will undercut PS3? What about Wii?
What about it? I don't care how much the Wii costs, from what I have seen (mostly here because no one else seems to give a shit about it) it won't offer me what I like to play. The XBox and the PS3 do/will.
Personally, the Wii is the first console I'm planning on buying since the Playstation 1, and it's the 1st one I am hoping to spend a decent amount playing since SNES (I only ended up owning 3-4 PS 1 games, got it more out of habit than actual want and dropped out of gaming since).
I owned one game for the PS1. I owned a couple more for the PS2 because it came with 5. I play three (GT1 -- originaly for the PS1, Katamari and We Love Katamari) on the PS2. I don't see what your point is that you will be buying more games for the Wii...
I would rather there be a single game for a system that I can play for hours on end for several years (I have been playing GT1 reguarly since 1998) than if I could buy 10s of games that I will complete and not be interested in again.
I haven't made my descision on which console I will end up buying but it certainly won't be the Wii. While I know that is an unpopular stance here on Slashdot (the Wii talk here reminds me of the Mac loving Slashbotters and what Linux used to be here).
No, because every smart admin trys to block all IPs from Korea!
Oh do you mean could rumors and shit started by people in the US hit hard here? They already do. People are always into drama, especially online. They are hiding behind their computers and believe they are anonymous.
There's really nothing better than receiving threatening e-mails at work and home as well as subscriptions to gay magazines, threats of violence against your home, family, and dog just because you locked a thread on a forum.
Regardless of what level of a user you are the installer's looks are meaningless. My current machine (running Debian unstable -- which, as a side note, has been very unstable lately) had Debian installed in October of 2002.
Think it matters much when you will probably use the installer once or twice ever?
The Sony device is a direct knock off of the various other devices on the market already like the T-mobile branded MDA. It looks *just* like it (many other providers offer this phone but call it different things). Wooo for "innovation".
When will these companies learn to view the modern web with any sort of comfort you need, at the very least 640x480.
The Nokia 770 has no keyboard while this Sony device does. When will these companies learn to *interact* with the modern web with any sort of comfort you need, at the very least, a useable keyboard.
I thought that the idea of the 770 was a great one. Without a keyboard it's pointless.
While my T-mobile Sidekick has its shortcomings, it does have a full Qwerty keyboard that far more usable than a Treo or Q.
These companies need to cross the two and make the perfect device. A small form factor (pocket sized), keyboard, and larger/clear screen as well as wifi/GPRS/EGPRS and autorollover to the fastest available network.
A lot of people would like to think that these people have sprouted up from nowhere in the last 6 years, but that's simply not the case.
Why must you always troll? Since most people probably don't know that you phrase all your statements as a troll, I figured I better step in here and save us from your typical bullshit:
Yeah, great, these people were always here and they always disagreed with science. That's not what anyone is saying here. What we are saying is that because we have an administration in place that has taken it upon themselves to blur the lines between Church and State and to make the evolution/creationism fight a top priority.
Because this is now a top governmental priority (instead of important shit like reducing the trade deficit, national deficit, and the cost of the foreign wars -- both in human life lost and the millions of dollars we don't have that we are spending on it daily) it's become more important to point this shit out.
"To quote a commenter on Slashdot's site, Slashdot "editors" using the Slash approval queue have discovered 'how people will get annoyed with their Slashbacks that cover previously covered material that were formally known as "Dupes".' There will be a briefing at 12:29 PM CT, on this discovery, with streaming comments provided by Slashcode, and some details of dreamchaser's comment posted on Slashdot's site just beforehand."
Everyone wrote better games then. 10 years ago Romero came out with the best game at the time in a genre that has unforunately stuck around with people believing each one is "new".
Route planning software doesn't need to have maps. In fact, using my Garmin GPSMap 76CS I routinely leave it on the text directions rather than the map screen because I like to know a couple steps ahead of what the map shows me (especially for city driving).
If they were going to re-route people they could send a couple of SMSs (or the entire message if you have a decent cell phone that merges "large" SMSs into one) with the text directions of where they need to go.
That way it might be worth the privacy implications to some. For me? I'll stick to my autorouting handheld GPS.
So now that the airlines don't offer free food on flights, anyone want to start a pool on when the free sodas on the airplane will suddenly become very expensive? Put me down for Aug 18, 2006.
Will you have to come with a doctor's note if you are hypoglycemic, diabetic, or otherwise requiring some sort of liquid sugar to keep you from going insane, limp, or otherwise on a 5 hour flight from SEA to OGG?
It's plain old "people will pay for it" nothing more. If people would stop sending SMSs at.10/min and would stop paying astronomical rates for SMS plans then they would drop the prices.
Unfortunately, too many people are obsessed with sending MMS and SMS and have no qualms about paying big bucks to do it.
Gore may well be a boring old fart, but these images are pretty interesting...
Yeah, so was the entire Al Gore presentation on Global Climate Change that I saw last summer. We wondered if some Apple intern had to make his PowerPoint presentation for him. Well done but nothing more than pretty propaganda.
I've also mentioned Al Gore's Global Climate Change presentation before on Slashdot.
Come on, oil companies, argue bravely and responsibly. If you think Gore is wrong, show us the proof. Don't just close your ears and shout "la la la la, I'm not listening!"
Oh come on, look at what else they did. Looks like real proof to me right there on YouTube!
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This is true, but how do you think we manage to sell people 5Mb connections for $40/month?
Then don't advertise something that it's not. Say it's a 5mbit burstable connection and 1mbit sustained. Or say right there on your advertisement, "We are like every other ISP and oversell our bandwidth and then cry later when people use it." I'd have more respect for your whining.
Yes, you will lose customers but they will be in the 10% bracket that you don't want anyway. Let those people use real ISPs and let your lame ISP cater to the Mom and Pop's that check e-mail, CNN, and look at porn while the wife is out at her book club once a week.
They can still sell their commercial products through that chain.
I want to know how many users they actually have and how many of those users would buy commercial software via CNR. I just can't see them having that many total users, nevermind total users that will actually buy this stuff.
And the best part of it was, even after 5 years of heavy single user printing (I would estimate somewhere in the range of 500k sheets) I only used two print cartridges!
Yes, you did have to swap in and out for color but I rarely used it in color mode.
Well, given that 80% of their $5.6 billion in operating profit (from TFA) is derived from ink and toner, they are not going to allow it to slip away. Otherwise they could potentially lose about $4bn in profit.
And that is exactly why I buy a new HP deskjet printer every single time it runs out of ink. They are $10 less than a new print cartridge and I *usually* end up with a free USB cable out of the deal.
I bought an HP Deskjet 400C on the first day of college in 1997. It worked for 5 years. While printing the 40th copy of my final paper in college it died. Literally pieces of metal started rolling out w/the paper. I haven't found a single non-laser printer that will last more than 5 weeks.
I'm happy to continue taking their money when I buy a new printer each time.
The sad part about this is that Yahoo maps is soo bad.. And the flash-based beta version is even worse, it looks like a cheap rip-off of google maps, but that doesn't work properly. Any Yahooer should be ashamed of it. They can't do AJAX like Google. Shame on Yahoo.
:(
Note: I use Google Maps constantly as part of my job and personal use.
ask.com's map stuff is *far* superior to Google Maps for the general user. Not only are their maps more up to date (and allow for zooming in further in more areas) but it works just as smoothly.
Google should be *ashamed* that ask.com has a product that is even close to theirs nevermind beating it
The man now has tacit approval from the FBI for his actions.
I don't see how it's any different. Just because someone else is doing it for them doesn't make it any better.
None of your comments have anything to do with GNU/Linux [I say GNU because many things like cameras are dealt with in the userspace].
;)
Thanks for proving why *I* don't recommend Linux to regular old computer users. Without the software base out there, shit just doesn't magically work and that's what people expect.
Even after 10 years running Linux, I had to fuck around for three days reading up on stuff to figure out what the hell was broken. I have a feeling that 99% of people out there don't give a enough of a fuck to do that. Believe me, even after 10 years, I was certainly ready to throw in the towel
where's the Left Wing Say-anything-to-get-me-elected-zealot?
Up there on the stage... Right next to the New-Aged-Right Wing Say-anything-to-get-me-elected-zealot.
Seriously, could someone explain to me the slashdot editors' obsession with junk science, specifically perpetual motion and free energy machines, and the like?
1. The Slashdot "editors" are just as much "junk" as this science.
2. As of right now there are 189+ comments posted under this pile of shit story.
3. Obviously there is some draw for them to post this crap, after all, you are posting and got a +5.
the Wii is bringing me back:) And I see lots of other people coming back too.
I only see that trend here on Slashdot, sorry.
Um, high prices, yet PS3 will dominate? MS will undercut PS3? What about Wii?
What about it? I don't care how much the Wii costs, from what I have seen (mostly here because no one else seems to give a shit about it) it won't offer me what I like to play. The XBox and the PS3 do/will.
Personally, the Wii is the first console I'm planning on buying since the Playstation 1, and it's the 1st one I am hoping to spend a decent amount playing since SNES (I only ended up owning 3-4 PS 1 games, got it more out of habit than actual want and dropped out of gaming since).
I owned one game for the PS1. I owned a couple more for the PS2 because it came with 5. I play three (GT1 -- originaly for the PS1, Katamari and We Love Katamari) on the PS2. I don't see what your point is that you will be buying more games for the Wii...
I would rather there be a single game for a system that I can play for hours on end for several years (I have been playing GT1 reguarly since 1998) than if I could buy 10s of games that I will complete and not be interested in again.
I haven't made my descision on which console I will end up buying but it certainly won't be the Wii. While I know that is an unpopular stance here on Slashdot (the Wii talk here reminds me of the Mac loving Slashbotters and what Linux used to be here).
Could this trend hit the U.S.?
No, because every smart admin trys to block all IPs from Korea!
Oh do you mean could rumors and shit started by people in the US hit hard here? They already do. People are always into drama, especially online. They are hiding behind their computers and believe they are anonymous.
There's really nothing better than receiving threatening e-mails at work and home as well as subscriptions to gay magazines, threats of violence against your home, family, and dog just because you locked a thread on a forum.
It really makes the Internet fun.
Regardless of what level of a user you are the installer's looks are meaningless. My current machine (running Debian unstable -- which, as a side note, has been very unstable lately) had Debian installed in October of 2002.
Think it matters much when you will probably use the installer once or twice ever?
Not to me it doesn't.
The Sony device is a direct knock off of the various other devices on the market already like the T-mobile branded MDA. It looks *just* like it (many other providers offer this phone but call it different things). Wooo for "innovation".
When will these companies learn to view the modern web with any sort of comfort you need, at the very least 640x480.
The Nokia 770 has no keyboard while this Sony device does. When will these companies learn to *interact* with the modern web with any sort of comfort you need, at the very least, a useable keyboard.
I thought that the idea of the 770 was a great one. Without a keyboard it's pointless.
While my T-mobile Sidekick has its shortcomings, it does have a full Qwerty keyboard that far more usable than a Treo or Q.
These companies need to cross the two and make the perfect device. A small form factor (pocket sized), keyboard, and larger/clear screen as well as wifi/GPRS/EGPRS and autorollover to the fastest available network.
Well done! You just won an argument with the straw liberal.
God you people are annoying. I am *NOT* a liberal.
A lot of people would like to think that these people have sprouted up from nowhere in the last 6 years, but that's simply not the case.
Why must you always troll? Since most people probably don't know that you phrase all your statements as a troll, I figured I better step in here and save us from your typical bullshit:
Yeah, great, these people were always here and they always disagreed with science. That's not what anyone is saying here. What we are saying is that because we have an administration in place that has taken it upon themselves to blur the lines between Church and State and to make the evolution/creationism fight a top priority.
Because this is now a top governmental priority (instead of important shit like reducing the trade deficit, national deficit, and the cost of the foreign wars -- both in human life lost and the millions of dollars we don't have that we are spending on it daily) it's become more important to point this shit out.
"To quote a commenter on Slashdot's site, Slashdot "editors" using the Slash approval queue have discovered 'how people will get annoyed with their Slashbacks that cover previously covered material that were formally known as "Dupes".' There will be a briefing at 12:29 PM CT, on this discovery, with streaming comments provided by Slashcode, and some details of dreamchaser's comment posted on Slashdot's site just beforehand."
John Romero wrote better games
Everyone wrote better games then. 10 years ago Romero came out with the best game at the time in a genre that has unforunately stuck around with people believing each one is "new".
Route planning software doesn't need to have maps. In fact, using my Garmin GPSMap 76CS I routinely leave it on the text directions rather than the map screen because I like to know a couple steps ahead of what the map shows me (especially for city driving).
If they were going to re-route people they could send a couple of SMSs (or the entire message if you have a decent cell phone that merges "large" SMSs into one) with the text directions of where they need to go.
That way it might be worth the privacy implications to some. For me? I'll stick to my autorouting handheld GPS.
So now that the airlines don't offer free food on flights, anyone want to start a pool on when the free sodas on the airplane will suddenly become very expensive? Put me down for Aug 18, 2006.
Will you have to come with a doctor's note if you are hypoglycemic, diabetic, or otherwise requiring some sort of liquid sugar to keep you from going insane, limp, or otherwise on a 5 hour flight from SEA to OGG?
"Yes Dave, this is a wonderful idea Dave."
It's plain old "people will pay for it" nothing more. If people would stop sending SMSs at .10/min and would stop paying astronomical rates for SMS plans then they would drop the prices.
Unfortunately, too many people are obsessed with sending MMS and SMS and have no qualms about paying big bucks to do it.
Gore may well be a boring old fart, but these images are pretty interesting...
Yeah, so was the entire Al Gore presentation on Global Climate Change that I saw last summer. We wondered if some Apple intern had to make his PowerPoint presentation for him. Well done but nothing more than pretty propaganda.
I've also mentioned Al Gore's Global Climate Change presentation before on Slashdot.
Come on, oil companies, argue bravely and responsibly. If you think Gore is wrong, show us the proof. Don't just close your ears and shout "la la la la, I'm not listening!"
Oh come on, look at what else they did. Looks like real proof to me right there on YouTube!
Notice the quotes. Thanks. Obviously when I said "secure" it implied that it wasn't secure.