So is it or isn't it enough for a lawsuit? Anyone know of any developments in this area?
A lawsuit on what grounds? That you agreed to something and then they installed their software based on your agreement? I have a feeling that the "oh, no one reads those things" isn't really going to work all that well against Sony's legal team.
Hereis a link to F-secure's "detailed" writeup about what the DRM installer puts on your machine.
Don't buy DRM'd CDs as they don't allow you to exercise fair-use. Sadly, most people don't care anymore.
I honestly wonder what historians will think of this time period, say, one hundred years from now. Think of how we view the Western European Dark Ages, where education slowed to a halt, an organization managed to secure society and manipulate it at will, while those in the East jumped leaps and bounds ahead of them. Gosh, sounds vaguely familiar....
Ahh yes, the good 'ol "How History Repeats Itself" thing. Yup, I agree. We should learn from our mistakes yet we are told time and time again how this is so much better!
I went to see Good Night and Good Luck which was supposed to reiterate the importance of learning from history. I mentioned that I went to see it to my father. His response to me was: "Son, I lived through that fucking horseshit. I hated that reporter. Why would I want to relive all that shit again?"
Obviously my response fell upon deaf ears. *That* is why history continues to repeat itself. People are just UNWILLING to accept that they are wrong.
Hey, if you enjoy paying for the communication medium, the content, and then a PVR on top of all of that, so be it. Me? I want a PVR that eliminates advertising completely as that's why I purchased one.
If I didn't have a DirecTivo I wouldn't have my Tivo anymore either. I told them repeatedly that I would drop them like a rock if they started showing me ads on top of the ads I was skipping while I was paying $14/mo to eliminate ads.
"This is the next logical step for 'Nightly' and NBC News," said Capus. "As the leader on the broadcast side, and with our partnership in the leading online news and information site, MSNBC.com, it couldn't be a better fit. We know that just as fast as technology is changing, people's lives are changing too, and they expect our newscasts to keep up with those changes. With this announcement we are doing just that."
It was the next logical step four years ago. It should have been done two years before that. We're supposed to just nod our heads and say, "oh, right, technology has finally caught up!" Blah. ASF movies were floating around in the 200MB range (2+ hours) on IRC in the late 1990s. Why couldn't news broadcasts be put out (~45 mins) in the same format for less than 100MB?
I don't care at all personally as I like to get my news in a readable format from multiple sources on multiple continents but I just don't see why it couldn't have been done 2 to 5 years ago.
Compared to AbiWord, yeah, it's kinda mammoth. I think it's about 5MB for Windows. So, the Word Processor component is only ~5MB. Why does OO have to be over 10x as large and yet still load slow, be a memory hog, and be only mildly competitive in the Windows/MS Office world?
Now, cable and satellite companies will be joining the fight. It's in their best interest to beat down this new method of content distribution for TV.
But the content providers and distributers are the same thing in the music industry. I don't see Radio and XM fighting with iTMS. I can't see Cable and Sat networks doing it either. The content providers (the Networks) have the say on what happens. What? Comcast and DirecTV are going to say "no, we won't show your content?" Give me a break, that's suicide.
No one realizes just how much work goes into any "hobby project website" until they start doing it themselves. Recently, I was elected into one position in a hobby association, dumped into the "webmaster" position, and also administer the forum software. Man, was it easy to be on the other side of the table when all I had to do was read what others posted. I had no idea how much work content, coding, and administrating is/was.
Then you have to deal w/the users of your website. Drama, questions, problems, bugs, whatever. Ugh.
I'm already burned out from that one particular project and I have my own website, other websites, and real life I have to deal with. I have gotten to the point where at least three days a week are "offline time". I sit down with a book and headphones or do something w/the wife or whatever.
I have talked about making your hobby your job and the problems that causes. Looks like other people are learning about it too.
And then we could change VoIP software to use DNS or other packets to obscure their true nature.
Until you are caught and prosecuted for theft of service for subverting controls that the ISP put in place. The world is scary. Don't think it's as simple as you would like it to be.
Because it loaded and looked just fine (identical to what I was used to) prior to the CSS overhaul. I don't want to change the look and feel of how I browse every day so that I am able to read Slashdot on the road.
What the hell does he mean by people using his "pipes" for free? I pay every month for my access. And I'm not paying for wires strung to my house, I'm paying for bandwidth, for the ability to get packets in and out of my router. Nothing free here, I paid for it.
Ahh, but see, you're confused (along with the rest of the majority of geekish users) as to what it means to pay to use "your/their" bandwidth.
Just remember their ToS and that little clause that allows them to change it at any time for any reason. It also talks about not using their lines for stuff *they* deem inappropriate. That could (and likely will) include VoIP service.
You have a couple of choices. You could drop their service (and possibly pay early termination fees if you are on a special deal), you could ignore them completely and move to another provider (that might also have the same restrictions), or you could suffer.
90% of users will suffer. Just like the 92% of users that use Comcast in the face of them dropping you for unknown bandwidth usage limits. The small percentage of users that the ISP will lose is the group they want to drop anyway.
As said above, otherwise nothing is stopping people from putting normal websites on.mobi and mobile users won't be sure whether a.mobi page is actually compatible with mobile phones or just some idiot looking for a new domain to put his porn site/goatse redirector/blog onto.
As also said elsewhere, it's not up to the TLD to police the format of the sites. It's up to the market to decide whether or not a particular website succeeds or fails.
With *so* many different methods to browse via a mobile device (proxy corrected content, WAP, full support, etc) there are too many factors that the TLD, webdesigners, and mobile device manufacturers have to take into account. In this instance, the TLD could eliminate innovation if they don't support or accept a new mobile browsing format.
Perhaps they want to force only WAP support on all their sites. That would suck.
As an owner of a Treo 650, I am sick and tired of going to any website (ahem, slashdot) that takes 2-3 minutes to load... and then after it loads, renders the text like: t h i s
You know, Slashdot *used* to load just fine on my T-mobile sidekick with the settings I used on my desktop. Then they went to the new CSS site and now it loads poorly.
I just wish there were options available on all sites to allow you to have it display the way you want (i.e. mobile).
Taco, I know you had/have a Sidekick. Enable the option to use the Frames/HTML that you had prior to CSS.
mTLD announced today that it has joined the W3C and will be using many of the consortium's best practices, developed for the mobile Internet, to develop its own criteria in order to ensure.mobi sites are optimised to be viewed on mobile devices.
Why wouldn't the market determine the criteria? What if the criteria that mTLD comes up with is outdated or improper? I have written a simple web application that is mobile friendly for WAP and regular browsers but I would assume that WAP is going to be left behind for proxied content or full support browsers.
Why would you want to force compliance of crappy or unused technology on an entire TLD?
In 2004, 39.5 million U.S. households shopped online, Forrester said, 3.5 million more than in 2003. The company predicts broadband, laptop and home networking adoption will help drive online research and purchasing to more than 55 million households by 2010.
Well, it depends on how much the bandwidth charges cost. In their equation, bandwidth is the only thing that isn't going down in price. Home networking gear, laptops, mobile devices with wireless/GPRS, etc, are all falling rapidly. It's the network connection fees that are prohibitive.
They are claiming that a huge percentage of households will have broadband available to them by 2010 but how many will be able to afford it with restrictions such as required CATV, local phone service, etc? Yeah, the actual Internet connection seems inexpensive until you realize that you have to bundle it w/the other services to get a reasonable rate.
That's what needs to be ended before broadband adoption skyrockets.
In the meantime, perhaps you should check your facts better before posting such things.
Plenty of respected scientists are full of shit. Perhaps the article, which is the only linked information from the blurb and thus all we have, should have included some more factual evidence that this can all occur rather than just saying that because this guy says so, it is.
Starting off the article that he's a "prophet" and then continuing on with quotes like, "If that sounds a little vague, it is. Mr. de Grey is not saying he knows for certain how to fix these problems, only that these are the problems responsible for the physical breakdowns we experience as we grow older. Lick them, and you've licked aging, or so the thinking goes." Because, afterall, it is really vague and thus I'm skeptical.
Maybe you should have RTFA and let it explain it to you and then maybe you would understand why I think it's all a bunch of shit.
By these measures, Aubrey de Grey is indeed a prophet. The 42-year-old English biogerontologist has made his name by claiming that some people alive right now could live for 1,000 years or longer. You can't determine that someone is a prophet until after the fact. See, right now he might be a "visionary" or a "futurist" or even a "fortune teller" but most likely he's just a "crock" or a "bullshit artist".
I claim that based on scientific technology available right now we will be able to solve all the world's problems in the future! See how easy that is? Now, if only I could get some article written about me and my observations of organs growing in trays (and not exactly explaining how all these endless transplants will work) I too can say we will all live for eternity (and bring with us all the damage populations of that size cause).
This wasn't even worth reading. Thanks for giving this guy more notoriety Slashdot.
Why not just a wired router/firewall. Does it have to be wireless? I would assume the vacation home isn't that big to warrent wireless...
Some of us do enjoy sitting on the deck and watching the ocean while getting some e-mail, work, or surfing in. In fact, if it's close enough to the beach, I'm all about sitting in my lounge chair (like the movie The Net) and doing stuff on the Internet.
I have mobile access via GPRS but would love to have a full broadband connection. YMMV.
What I want to know, and the article doesn't say, is whether he was a "distributer" or whether he was just an unlucky sharer that was downloading a movie and got nabbed. If he was seeding the torrent, whatever -- he deserved it, I'd think that it would be "scarier" if he was just a user downloading/uploading by using the seeded torrent.
"This ruling means a lot," said Hong Kong Commerce Secretary John Tsang, explaining that it would deter other possible file-sharers.
What deters me is simply that it's more worth it to just buy the movie in the store. I don't have to waste bandwidth downloading it, the time to burn it to DVD, and my drive space while I do that. Most movies (especially real suck ass ones like Dardevil) are available for $7.50 at Target all the time. Hell, I just got Season 1 of Nip/Tuck for $18.88 two weekends ago!
Exactly. It would have been different if the 360 was going to START shipping w/HD-DVD but because they are trying to be first out of the gate and are instead equipping their models with standard DVD drives, they aren't going to be able to beat Sony's Blu-Ray PS3.
Microsoft went about this the wrong way, IMHO. It will likely depend on the success of the PS3 vs the 360 (equipped or not).
Have any of you been able to find a simple car stereo that will play your OGGs?
I think your definition of "simple" is a bit different than mine. I have an AM/FM car stereo and was thrilled to have a clock and digital presets! Seriously though, just re-encode or use an FM-transmitter.
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So is it or isn't it enough for a lawsuit? Anyone know of any developments in this area?
A lawsuit on what grounds? That you agreed to something and then they installed their software based on your agreement? I have a feeling that the "oh, no one reads those things" isn't really going to work all that well against Sony's legal team.
Hereis a link to F-secure's "detailed" writeup about what the DRM installer puts on your machine.
Don't buy DRM'd CDs as they don't allow you to exercise fair-use. Sadly, most people don't care anymore.
I honestly wonder what historians will think of this time period, say, one hundred years from now. Think of how we view the Western European Dark Ages, where education slowed to a halt, an organization managed to secure society and manipulate it at will, while those in the East jumped leaps and bounds ahead of them. Gosh, sounds vaguely familiar....
Ahh yes, the good 'ol "How History Repeats Itself" thing. Yup, I agree. We should learn from our mistakes yet we are told time and time again how this is so much better!
I went to see Good Night and Good Luck which was supposed to reiterate the importance of learning from history. I mentioned that I went to see it to my father. His response to me was: "Son, I lived through that fucking horseshit. I hated that reporter. Why would I want to relive all that shit again?"
Obviously my response fell upon deaf ears. *That* is why history continues to repeat itself. People are just UNWILLING to accept that they are wrong.
Won't SCO just keel over and die already?
They already did. Now they're just running around without a head.
Hey, if you enjoy paying for the communication medium, the content, and then a PVR on top of all of that, so be it. Me? I want a PVR that eliminates advertising completely as that's why I purchased one.
If I didn't have a DirecTivo I wouldn't have my Tivo anymore either. I told them repeatedly that I would drop them like a rock if they started showing me ads on top of the ads I was skipping while I was paying $14/mo to eliminate ads.
YMMV.
NBC Nightly News is local? Wow. I must have missed something when I stopped watching a couple of years ago.
"This is the next logical step for 'Nightly' and NBC News," said Capus. "As the leader on the broadcast side, and with our partnership in the leading online news and information site, MSNBC.com, it couldn't be a better fit. We know that just as fast as technology is changing, people's lives are changing too, and they expect our newscasts to keep up with those changes. With this announcement we are doing just that."
It was the next logical step four years ago. It should have been done two years before that. We're supposed to just nod our heads and say, "oh, right, technology has finally caught up!" Blah. ASF movies were floating around in the 200MB range (2+ hours) on IRC in the late 1990s. Why couldn't news broadcasts be put out (~45 mins) in the same format for less than 100MB?
I don't care at all personally as I like to get my news in a readable format from multiple sources on multiple continents but I just don't see why it couldn't have been done 2 to 5 years ago.
Little too late IMHO.
but is 80 MB really mammoth?
Compared to AbiWord, yeah, it's kinda mammoth. I think it's about 5MB for Windows. So, the Word Processor component is only ~5MB. Why does OO have to be over 10x as large and yet still load slow, be a memory hog, and be only mildly competitive in the Windows/MS Office world?
Now, cable and satellite companies will be joining the fight. It's in their best interest to beat down this new method of content distribution for TV.
But the content providers and distributers are the same thing in the music industry. I don't see Radio and XM fighting with iTMS. I can't see Cable and Sat networks doing it either. The content providers (the Networks) have the say on what happens. What? Comcast and DirecTV are going to say "no, we won't show your content?" Give me a break, that's suicide.
No one realizes just how much work goes into any "hobby project website" until they start doing it themselves. Recently, I was elected into one position in a hobby association, dumped into the "webmaster" position, and also administer the forum software. Man, was it easy to be on the other side of the table when all I had to do was read what others posted. I had no idea how much work content, coding, and administrating is/was.
Then you have to deal w/the users of your website. Drama, questions, problems, bugs, whatever. Ugh.
I'm already burned out from that one particular project and I have my own website, other websites, and real life I have to deal with. I have gotten to the point where at least three days a week are "offline time". I sit down with a book and headphones or do something w/the wife or whatever.
I have talked about making your hobby your job and the problems that causes. Looks like other people are learning about it too.
And then we could change VoIP software to use DNS or other packets to obscure their true nature.
Until you are caught and prosecuted for theft of service for subverting controls that the ISP put in place. The world is scary. Don't think it's as simple as you would like it to be.
Because it loaded and looked just fine (identical to what I was used to) prior to the CSS overhaul. I don't want to change the look and feel of how I browse every day so that I am able to read Slashdot on the road.
Make it an option to disable CSS.
What the hell does he mean by people using his "pipes" for free? I pay every month for my access. And I'm not paying for wires strung to my house, I'm paying for bandwidth, for the ability to get packets in and out of my router. Nothing free here, I paid for it.
Ahh, but see, you're confused (along with the rest of the majority of geekish users) as to what it means to pay to use "your/their" bandwidth.
Just remember their ToS and that little clause that allows them to change it at any time for any reason. It also talks about not using their lines for stuff *they* deem inappropriate. That could (and likely will) include VoIP service.
You have a couple of choices. You could drop their service (and possibly pay early termination fees if you are on a special deal), you could ignore them completely and move to another provider (that might also have the same restrictions), or you could suffer.
90% of users will suffer. Just like the 92% of users that use Comcast in the face of them dropping you for unknown bandwidth usage limits. The small percentage of users that the ISP will lose is the group they want to drop anyway.
As said above, otherwise nothing is stopping people from putting normal websites on .mobi and mobile users won't be sure whether a .mobi page is actually compatible with mobile phones or just some idiot looking for a new domain to put his porn site/goatse redirector/blog onto.
As also said elsewhere, it's not up to the TLD to police the format of the sites. It's up to the market to decide whether or not a particular website succeeds or fails.
With *so* many different methods to browse via a mobile device (proxy corrected content, WAP, full support, etc) there are too many factors that the TLD, webdesigners, and mobile device manufacturers have to take into account. In this instance, the TLD could eliminate innovation if they don't support or accept a new mobile browsing format.
Perhaps they want to force only WAP support on all their sites. That would suck.
As an owner of a Treo 650, I am sick and tired of going to any website (ahem, slashdot) that takes 2-3 minutes to load... and then after it loads, renders the text like: t h i s
You know, Slashdot *used* to load just fine on my T-mobile sidekick with the settings I used on my desktop. Then they went to the new CSS site and now it loads poorly.
I just wish there were options available on all sites to allow you to have it display the way you want (i.e. mobile).
Taco, I know you had/have a Sidekick. Enable the option to use the Frames/HTML that you had prior to CSS.
mTLD announced today that it has joined the W3C and will be using many of the consortium's best practices, developed for the mobile Internet, to develop its own criteria in order to ensure .mobi sites are optimised to be viewed on mobile devices.
Why wouldn't the market determine the criteria? What if the criteria that mTLD comes up with is outdated or improper? I have written a simple web application that is mobile friendly for WAP and regular browsers but I would assume that WAP is going to be left behind for proxied content or full support browsers.
Why would you want to force compliance of crappy or unused technology on an entire TLD?
In 2004, 39.5 million U.S. households shopped online, Forrester said, 3.5 million more than in 2003. The company predicts broadband, laptop and home networking adoption will help drive online research and purchasing to more than 55 million households by 2010.
Well, it depends on how much the bandwidth charges cost. In their equation, bandwidth is the only thing that isn't going down in price. Home networking gear, laptops, mobile devices with wireless/GPRS, etc, are all falling rapidly. It's the network connection fees that are prohibitive.
They are claiming that a huge percentage of households will have broadband available to them by 2010 but how many will be able to afford it with restrictions such as required CATV, local phone service, etc? Yeah, the actual Internet connection seems inexpensive until you realize that you have to bundle it w/the other services to get a reasonable rate.
That's what needs to be ended before broadband adoption skyrockets.
What about Dr. Strangelove or Full Metal Jacket?
In the meantime, perhaps you should check your facts better before posting such things.
Plenty of respected scientists are full of shit. Perhaps the article, which is the only linked information from the blurb and thus all we have, should have included some more factual evidence that this can all occur rather than just saying that because this guy says so, it is.
Starting off the article that he's a "prophet" and then continuing on with quotes like, "If that sounds a little vague, it is. Mr. de Grey is not saying he knows for certain how to fix these problems, only that these are the problems responsible for the physical breakdowns we experience as we grow older. Lick them, and you've licked aging, or so the thinking goes." Because, afterall, it is really vague and thus I'm skeptical.
Maybe you should have RTFA and let it explain it to you and then maybe you would understand why I think it's all a bunch of shit.
By these measures, Aubrey de Grey is indeed a prophet. The 42-year-old English biogerontologist has made his name by claiming that some people alive right now could live for 1,000 years or longer.
You can't determine that someone is a prophet until after the fact. See, right now he might be a "visionary" or a "futurist" or even a "fortune teller" but most likely he's just a "crock" or a "bullshit artist".
I claim that based on scientific technology available right now we will be able to solve all the world's problems in the future! See how easy that is? Now, if only I could get some article written about me and my observations of organs growing in trays (and not exactly explaining how all these endless transplants will work) I too can say we will all live for eternity (and bring with us all the damage populations of that size cause).
This wasn't even worth reading. Thanks for giving this guy more notoriety Slashdot.
Why not just a wired router/firewall. Does it have to be wireless? I would assume the vacation home isn't that big to warrent wireless...
Some of us do enjoy sitting on the deck and watching the ocean while getting some e-mail, work, or surfing in. In fact, if it's close enough to the beach, I'm all about sitting in my lounge chair (like the movie The Net) and doing stuff on the Internet.
I have mobile access via GPRS but would love to have a full broadband connection. YMMV.
I use BitTorrent to get the updates for World of Warcraft. I'm not guilty of 'piracy' for that.
It doesn't say "BitTorrent Users Guilty of Piracy" it says "BitTorrent User Guilty of Piracy". Move along.
What I want to know, and the article doesn't say, is whether he was a "distributer" or whether he was just an unlucky sharer that was downloading a movie and got nabbed. If he was seeding the torrent, whatever -- he deserved it, I'd think that it would be "scarier" if he was just a user downloading/uploading by using the seeded torrent.
"This ruling means a lot," said Hong Kong Commerce Secretary John Tsang, explaining that it would deter other possible file-sharers.
What deters me is simply that it's more worth it to just buy the movie in the store. I don't have to waste bandwidth downloading it, the time to burn it to DVD, and my drive space while I do that. Most movies (especially real suck ass ones like Dardevil) are available for $7.50 at Target all the time. Hell, I just got Season 1 of Nip/Tuck for $18.88 two weekends ago!
My money is on Sony in this one.
Exactly. It would have been different if the 360 was going to START shipping w/HD-DVD but because they are trying to be first out of the gate and are instead equipping their models with standard DVD drives, they aren't going to be able to beat Sony's Blu-Ray PS3.
Microsoft went about this the wrong way, IMHO. It will likely depend on the success of the PS3 vs the 360 (equipped or not).
Have any of you been able to find a simple car stereo that will play your OGGs?
I think your definition of "simple" is a bit different than mine. I have an AM/FM car stereo and was thrilled to have a clock and digital presets! Seriously though, just re-encode or use an FM-transmitter.
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