While BPL has the potential to serve 13 million U.S. households in the next three to five years, interference problems and a reluctance from many electric companies to offer new services may slow its development, said Barry Goodstadt, vice president at market research firm Harris Interactive Inc.
13 million homes are a "potential" in 3 to 5 years. Comcast has 21.5 million "potential" subscribers right now. I have a feeling that telcos have several million more "potential" subscribers... Yet I don't see telcos rushing out to give competive DSL and I certainly don't see Comcast rushing out to give HSD service to every end of their market.
You think that this technology is going to be any different? I don't.
Oh well, it will be a major nail in the coffin that was the great and wonderful world of Ham radio. 100 years down the drain.
I respect Ham radio operators. I think that they provide a great service to the community when they are called upon. Problem I have is with your comment that it is a "great and wonderful world"... Ham radio is only "great and wonderful" because the community is small and the technology was never intended for mass consumption.
The FCC has cleared the way for this technology (I don't agree with all their descisions and I haven't decided if I agree w/this one yet) and it's going to happen. Yes, technology needs to move forward and it sucks that older technologies will be infringed upon, but isn't that the entire point?
*IF* there is a possibility that this technology will connect more than 600k people shouldn't it be worth it?
I really think that they need to update the "e-mail the on-duty editor" method. I e-mailed them 14 minutes ago that it was a dupe and they still didn't remove the story.
While the patent issue was happening with Cisco, CERT/CC created a mailing list to allow vendors to communicate amongst themselves about the newly discovered vulnerability. "They blamed me for submitting my work," Fernando said in exasperation. "One of Cisco's managers of PSIRT said I was cooperating with terrorists, because a terrorist could have gotten the information in the paper I wrote!"
Of course. We know of problems but we are going to go the Security by Obscurity route and then when the cover is blown we'll claim they are supporting terrorism instead of admitting that we were wrong!
If the terrorism route doesn't work we always have the patent on the issue to sue him with!
You're obviously trolling but I'll answer anyway...
"free use" is not the same as "fair use" thus my suggested change...
"And we will take it by any and all means" is hostile and makes it sound like we started this mess. The way I suggested it be rewritten shows that the media conglomorates are using their power (via their deep pockets) to steal it from us and we are going to take it back.
I fail to see how you couldn't understand that in the first place.
Like bands don't exist unless they have massive media hype, a video on MTV, and a shamelessly promoted 'world tour'.
Most bands don't exist w/o that -- at least they don't in the eyes of most people. Most people sit at home glued to their major media shows, force fed conglomorate TV, and listening to their conglomorate owned/sponsored radio.
God forbid you have to search around for some different stuff to listen to! God forbid they might have to leave their comfort of their own homes to see a show and support an artist that might not be 100% favorable in the eyes of the conglomorates!
Makes me want to start my own music distribution just to show it can be done without the RIAA.
It's called the Internet. Ever been there? I have and it's *FULL* of new and interesting bands right next to old and interesting bands! There they are for the world to listen to. Try it some time. etree and dimeadozen should get you started.
That's all good and fine, but do I really _want_ a bittorrent client embedded in my browser?
I certainly don't see a need for it. I don't download torrents via a webbrowser as I use the curses-based btdownloadcurses on the command line.
For a community that's so against IE's "bloat" it's amazing how many people welcome with open arms more *unnecessary* bloat.
Yes, BitTorrent is great and it has a great many uses. I use it frequently for music and porn but being that I don't use it in my browser *ever* it's just not something we need. Let's keep it as an external module. In fact, let's move most of the extraneous crap out of browsers that I never use (i.e. bookmarks, tabs, etc).
Either you're with bloat in the browser world or you aren't. Which is it?
This was like 20 years ago... Why is he just now pressing charges? It looks like someone is low on cash so they thought getting on the "Sue MS" bandwagon was a good idea.
Yeah, 1999 would have been the best time to sue them as that's when they were convicted of being a monopoly.
And when you're in a business meeting or I hear your stupid 50-Cent ringtone from across the office ten times a day, I don't think you're cool. I think you're a fucking pretentious tool. Even moreso if you paid $2.99 for that 10 second song clip on your phone.
Crazily enough, they aren't marketing to people who work in offices. Cell phones should be set to mute/vibrate or turned off while at work anyway.
The $1.99/2.99 r4ngt0n3z are marketed to douchebag kids that *are* "cool" when their lame friends hear them.
I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile and have been very happy with them except for lack of coverage in some places.
I have T-mobile solely for the Sidekick/hiptop. When you say "some places" you are exaggerating or are not leaving your area.
Most of Western/Central WI is void of data service even along I-94 (a major highway). You can sometimes roam on AT&T Wireless (that's what it's reporting itself as -- not Cingular) or someother tiny/noname carrier but other than that you might not even have phone service!
If you aren't within sight distance of a major Interstate/highway or metro area you're pretty much SOL.
Yes, generally I have GPRS where *I* go but for trips where I am not going to be near anything I worry I might be w/o service.
This is the year 2005. Do Slashdotters really care about 20% of Japanese business using Linux? These would have have been impressive numbers in 1999.
Who cares if it's less than what the US has? Maybe if the numbers were *higher* than the US then I'd be interested. "Look, foreign companies are adopting Linux faster than American companies."
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Expect a lot of eyecandy-disabling apps to come out very quickly.
You mean like the disabling apps in the Control Panel? Like System -> Advanced -> Performance (Visual effects, processor scheduling, memory usage, and virtual memory)?
Go too fast, and the GPS connects to a violation reporting server and uploads your tracking number and the type of violation (exceeding speed limit for area, failing to stop at a stop light, etc.)
While GPS units are quite accurate (shows my speed as usually about 4 mph under what my speedometer shows) under perfect conditions, they do have a major fault... Signal loss.
So, say you are traveling through a tunnel, in a mountainous area, or even a road that's under heavy tree cover. The GPS will estimate your direction of travel after it loses signal until it gains it back. At the point it regains signal you could have moved a significant distance and the GPS needs to "catch up" thus inflating your average speed.
My Saturn can only go 103 mph before the RPM limiter kicks in and drags me down to ~90 mph. My GPS (see here) reported that I went 115 mph (top right corner of the screen is Max Speed). Obviously a 12 mph overage that could result in a speeding violation or a loss of my "safe driver status".
It's exactly what it is -- plus, most of those DVDs are at Walmart who are able to get huge lots of DVDs and sell them super cheap to get people into the stores.
The *only* reason I go to Walmart is to dig through the $5 DVD bin. I have gotten some decent titles (Antitrust, Short Circuit, Thomas Crown Affair, Fatal Attraction, and Turner and Hooch to name only a few) that I enjoy enough to own.
It does take time to go through them and find anything worthwhile (there's a lot of 4 TV episode DVDs such as the Three Stooges) but if you're willing to expand your collection with something that might not be a first rate movie then it's great.
Back to your question about strategy. The movie industry is winning *me* over with these cheap DVDs. I routinely shop Target's and Walmart's DVD specials (anything under $10) and have come out with titles like Terminator 1 and 2, Young Guns, Ghostbusters 1 and 2, Nothing but Trouble, and Pulp Fiction (2 DVD set). Not bad for 10 minutes of looking and a couple bucks.
I think someone should initiate a class action lawsuit against the US Postal Service for giving mass mailing discounts to these credit card companies making it possible for them to send out so many mailings.
A class action lawsuit against an arm of the Federal Government. Get real.
If they had to pay $.37 to get a letter delivered like I do we might not have quite as many mailings and less identity theft.
And then, they wouldn't be mailing *anything* and the USPS would make even *less* money than it already does forcing it to either raise prices even more than they already have (either will cause the USPS to go out of business).
I just like taking the credit card applications and stuffing in random garbage (like other empty envelopes or coupons to Dennys) and sending it back to them, on their dime.
They just don't get it, or are unwilling to concede that they get it -- the genie is out of the bottle, forever.
They don't need to understand or even pretend to understand. They have already proven that by doing what they do they can curb piracy and turn it into a profit.
What they don't understand is that they are just going to continue to push it further and further underground out of their reach. While mom, pop, and grandmom won't get into a civil suit with them they will find themselves scratching their heads wondering why all the traffic is encrypted.
They don't care about the small percentage of people getting access to free stuff. They care about the masses doing it and making it known to 100% of the population.
Cohen said he's unhappy that the Supreme Court's decision is forcing him to confront something he wrote more than five years ago. "The way they talked about intent is so vague that it can cause people to pay attention to things that they wrote years and years ago, having nothing to do with what they're doing right now," Cohen said.
If the President of the United States, the Governor of California, and various other politicians can hold political office regardless of what they did in their past (I won't even go into the difference between actually *doing* something illegal and just writing about it), then there should be no reason why this should even be a minor concern for Cohen or BitTorrent.
My views since 2002 have changed drastically on numerous subjects including ones I speak about in daily conversation, on Slashdot, and elsewhere. My views in 1999 were even more radically and misguided. I was in my early 20s, in college, and intoxicated (in some form) about 99% of the time. I certainly do not want to be held to what I said then and I certainly don't want to be held to what I say right now 5 years from now. Lots of life changing events occur in a short time now (moving to different areas of the country, encountering new people with different viewpoints, access to more and different information from many different angles).
It disappoints me that this is even an issue at all. If we are going to make a huge deal out this then I really think that we should have taken more time to consider what ass smacking and coke snorting does to our future. Yet, the problem is that people on that level get held to a different standard than the rest of us. Sadly, the levels are exactly the opposite of what they should be.
Sadly, there don't enough of people like us. I'm sure if market research showed that pop-ups had a terribly negative effect on consumers, they would cease to exist.
I had a guest at my house and I happened to be watching for an issue w/adzapper and squid when I noticed they were surfing sites on my Windows machine upstairs. Curious as to why they were using a Windows machine to surf the net (I have a Mac for that) and which sites they were surfing (fearful of spyware and bullshit) I found they were surfing sites they pulled out of SPAM.
So, if this guest, who *is* aware of spam, spyware, and trojans was doing it I have a feeling that there are tons more like them.
On a side note, I brought down the Internet interface and told them to use the Mac instead, "must be a problem with the Windows computer, I'll fix it later.";)
If what's being produced is as bad as you say? Then waiting 90+ years is a moot thing. Crap is crap regardless of weither you get it NOW! or 90+ years from now.
That's not the point at all, but thanks for the troll anyway... The point is that if something is crap there is no way for the media companies to make their losses back in any time frame. Thus, it's a loss... They are only keeping it locked up for 90+ years to keep the public from making a possible profit. Wah, we didn't win, neither can you...
Now the GOOD STUFF you may not want to wait, but that's not the basis for your argument.
It shouldn't be dependent on the success or failure. It should be a reasonable and fixed time limit.
you have no rights to somebody else's work, any more than I have a right to break into your house and steal your stereo.
Obviously I was not clear or you don't understand the underlying issue... What I'm talking about are the rights that were taken away when copyright laws were extended to 90+ years.
And not all lawyers and lawmakers are on the side of the media conglomerates, so don't lose hope. The point is simply that this should be fought and won in Congress.
You will *not* be able to stand up against the finanacial backing of the conglomorates. You *will* lose to them because they have nothing but time on their side. You *cannot* outlast the longevitiy of an "individual" that cannot die in the traditional sense.
Their money is limitless and so is their lifespan.
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While BPL has the potential to serve 13 million U.S. households in the next three to five years, interference problems and a reluctance from many electric companies to offer new services may slow its development, said Barry Goodstadt, vice president at market research firm Harris Interactive Inc.
13 million homes are a "potential" in 3 to 5 years. Comcast has 21.5 million "potential" subscribers right now. I have a feeling that telcos have several million more "potential" subscribers... Yet I don't see telcos rushing out to give competive DSL and I certainly don't see Comcast rushing out to give HSD service to every end of their market.
You think that this technology is going to be any different? I don't.
Oh well, it will be a major nail in the coffin that was the great and wonderful world of Ham radio. 100 years down the drain.
I respect Ham radio operators. I think that they provide a great service to the community when they are called upon. Problem I have is with your comment that it is a "great and wonderful world"... Ham radio is only "great and wonderful" because the community is small and the technology was never intended for mass consumption.
The FCC has cleared the way for this technology (I don't agree with all their descisions and I haven't decided if I agree w/this one yet) and it's going to happen. Yes, technology needs to move forward and it sucks that older technologies will be infringed upon, but isn't that the entire point?
*IF* there is a possibility that this technology will connect more than 600k people shouldn't it be worth it?
I really think that they need to update the "e-mail the on-duty editor" method. I e-mailed them 14 minutes ago that it was a dupe and they still didn't remove the story.
But that's not a 'good' action from anybody's viewpoint, and even that will not be enough to stop all potential terrorists.
It will create a new generation of terrorists that will start a backlash against the genocide.
Terrorists are like trolls. No matter what you do they will always be there acting as the provebial thorn.
While the patent issue was happening with Cisco, CERT/CC created a mailing list to allow vendors to communicate amongst themselves about the newly discovered vulnerability. "They blamed me for submitting my work," Fernando said in exasperation. "One of Cisco's managers of PSIRT said I was cooperating with terrorists, because a terrorist could have gotten the information in the paper I wrote!"
Of course. We know of problems but we are going to go the Security by Obscurity route and then when the cover is blown we'll claim they are supporting terrorism instead of admitting that we were wrong!
If the terrorism route doesn't work we always have the patent on the issue to sue him with!
Way to fucking go, thanks Cisco!
You're obviously trolling but I'll answer anyway...
"free use" is not the same as "fair use" thus my suggested change...
"And we will take it by any and all means" is hostile and makes it sound like we started this mess. The way I suggested it be rewritten shows that the media conglomorates are using their power (via their deep pockets) to steal it from us and we are going to take it back.
I fail to see how you couldn't understand that in the first place.
Like bands don't exist unless they have massive media hype, a video on MTV, and a shamelessly promoted 'world tour'.
Most bands don't exist w/o that -- at least they don't in the eyes of most people. Most people sit at home glued to their major media shows, force fed conglomorate TV, and listening to their conglomorate owned/sponsored radio.
God forbid you have to search around for some different stuff to listen to! God forbid they might have to leave their comfort of their own homes to see a show and support an artist that might not be 100% favorable in the eyes of the conglomorates!
Makes me want to start my own music distribution just to show it can be done without the RIAA.
It's called the Internet. Ever been there? I have and it's *FULL* of new and interesting bands right next to old and interesting bands! There they are for the world to listen to. Try it some time. etree and dimeadozen should get you started.
We deserve our free use. And we will take it by any and all means.
That should read: We deserve our fair use and we will take it back by any and all means.
That's all good and fine, but do I really _want_ a bittorrent client embedded in my browser?
I certainly don't see a need for it. I don't download torrents via a webbrowser as I use the curses-based btdownloadcurses on the command line.
For a community that's so against IE's "bloat" it's amazing how many people welcome with open arms more *unnecessary* bloat.
Yes, BitTorrent is great and it has a great many uses. I use it frequently for music and porn but being that I don't use it in my browser *ever* it's just not something we need. Let's keep it as an external module. In fact, let's move most of the extraneous crap out of browsers that I never use (i.e. bookmarks, tabs, etc).
Either you're with bloat in the browser world or you aren't. Which is it?
This was like 20 years ago... Why is he just now pressing charges? It looks like someone is low on cash so they thought getting on the "Sue MS" bandwagon was a good idea.
Yeah, 1999 would have been the best time to sue them as that's when they were convicted of being a monopoly.
And when you're in a business meeting or I hear your stupid 50-Cent ringtone from across the office ten times a day, I don't think you're cool. I think you're a fucking pretentious tool. Even moreso if you paid $2.99 for that 10 second song clip on your phone.
Crazily enough, they aren't marketing to people who work in offices. Cell phones should be set to mute/vibrate or turned off while at work anyway.
The $1.99/2.99 r4ngt0n3z are marketed to douchebag kids that *are* "cool" when their lame friends hear them.
I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile and have been very happy with them except for lack of coverage in some places.
I have T-mobile solely for the Sidekick/hiptop. When you say "some places" you are exaggerating or are not leaving your area.
Most of Western/Central WI is void of data service even along I-94 (a major highway). You can sometimes roam on AT&T Wireless (that's what it's reporting itself as -- not Cingular) or someother tiny/noname carrier but other than that you might not even have phone service!
If you aren't within sight distance of a major Interstate/highway or metro area you're pretty much SOL.
Yes, generally I have GPRS where *I* go but for trips where I am not going to be near anything I worry I might be w/o service.
Stats here show that Linux growth is slow in Japan. As I said, big numbers would have been important in 1999, not 2005.
It's grown about 10% in 5 years whereas in 1999/2000 it grew from less than 1% to 10%.
This is the year 2005. Do Slashdotters really care about 20% of Japanese business using Linux? These would have have been impressive numbers in 1999.
Who cares if it's less than what the US has? Maybe if the numbers were *higher* than the US then I'd be interested. "Look, foreign companies are adopting Linux faster than American companies."
That's not the case. Move along.
Obviously she knows she will win ;)
Expect a lot of eyecandy-disabling apps to come out very quickly.
You mean like the disabling apps in the Control Panel? Like System -> Advanced -> Performance (Visual effects, processor scheduling, memory usage, and virtual memory)?
Go too fast, and the GPS connects to a violation reporting server and uploads your tracking number and the type of violation (exceeding speed limit for area, failing to stop at a stop light, etc.)
While GPS units are quite accurate (shows my speed as usually about 4 mph under what my speedometer shows) under perfect conditions, they do have a major fault... Signal loss.
So, say you are traveling through a tunnel, in a mountainous area, or even a road that's under heavy tree cover. The GPS will estimate your direction of travel after it loses signal until it gains it back. At the point it regains signal you could have moved a significant distance and the GPS needs to "catch up" thus inflating your average speed.
My Saturn can only go 103 mph before the RPM limiter kicks in and drags me down to ~90 mph. My GPS (see here) reported that I went 115 mph (top right corner of the screen is Max Speed). Obviously a 12 mph overage that could result in a speeding violation or a loss of my "safe driver status".
It's exactly what it is -- plus, most of those DVDs are at Walmart who are able to get huge lots of DVDs and sell them super cheap to get people into the stores.
The *only* reason I go to Walmart is to dig through the $5 DVD bin. I have gotten some decent titles (Antitrust, Short Circuit, Thomas Crown Affair, Fatal Attraction, and Turner and Hooch to name only a few) that I enjoy enough to own.
It does take time to go through them and find anything worthwhile (there's a lot of 4 TV episode DVDs such as the Three Stooges) but if you're willing to expand your collection with something that might not be a first rate movie then it's great.
Back to your question about strategy. The movie industry is winning *me* over with these cheap DVDs. I routinely shop Target's and Walmart's DVD specials (anything under $10) and have come out with titles like Terminator 1 and 2, Young Guns, Ghostbusters 1 and 2, Nothing but Trouble, and Pulp Fiction (2 DVD set). Not bad for 10 minutes of looking and a couple bucks.
I think someone should initiate a class action lawsuit against the US Postal Service for giving mass mailing discounts to these credit card companies making it possible for them to send out so many mailings.
A class action lawsuit against an arm of the Federal Government. Get real.
If they had to pay $.37 to get a letter delivered like I do we might not have quite as many mailings and less identity theft.
And then, they wouldn't be mailing *anything* and the USPS would make even *less* money than it already does forcing it to either raise prices even more than they already have (either will cause the USPS to go out of business).
I just like taking the credit card applications and stuffing in random garbage (like other empty envelopes or coupons to Dennys) and sending it back to them, on their dime.
They just don't get it, or are unwilling to concede that they get it -- the genie is out of the bottle, forever.
They don't need to understand or even pretend to understand. They have already proven that by doing what they do they can curb piracy and turn it into a profit.
What they don't understand is that they are just going to continue to push it further and further underground out of their reach. While mom, pop, and grandmom won't get into a civil suit with them they will find themselves scratching their heads wondering why all the traffic is encrypted.
They don't care about the small percentage of people getting access to free stuff. They care about the masses doing it and making it known to 100% of the population.
Cohen said he's unhappy that the Supreme Court's decision is forcing him to confront something he wrote more than five years ago.
"The way they talked about intent is so vague that it can cause people to pay attention to things that they wrote years and years ago, having nothing to do with what they're doing right now," Cohen said.
If the President of the United States, the Governor of California, and various other politicians can hold political office regardless of what they did in their past (I won't even go into the difference between actually *doing* something illegal and just writing about it), then there should be no reason why this should even be a minor concern for Cohen or BitTorrent.
My views since 2002 have changed drastically on numerous subjects including ones I speak about in daily conversation, on Slashdot, and elsewhere. My views in 1999 were even more radically and misguided. I was in my early 20s, in college, and intoxicated (in some form) about 99% of the time. I certainly do not want to be held to what I said then and I certainly don't want to be held to what I say right now 5 years from now. Lots of life changing events occur in a short time now (moving to different areas of the country, encountering new people with different viewpoints, access to more and different information from many different angles).
It disappoints me that this is even an issue at all. If we are going to make a huge deal out this then I really think that we should have taken more time to consider what ass smacking and coke snorting does to our future. Yet, the problem is that people on that level get held to a different standard than the rest of us. Sadly, the levels are exactly the opposite of what they should be.
Sadly, there don't enough of people like us. I'm sure if market research showed that pop-ups had a terribly negative effect on consumers, they would cease to exist.
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I had a guest at my house and I happened to be watching for an issue w/adzapper and squid when I noticed they were surfing sites on my Windows machine upstairs. Curious as to why they were using a Windows machine to surf the net (I have a Mac for that) and which sites they were surfing (fearful of spyware and bullshit) I found they were surfing sites they pulled out of SPAM.
So, if this guest, who *is* aware of spam, spyware, and trojans was doing it I have a feeling that there are tons more like them.
On a side note, I brought down the Internet interface and told them to use the Mac instead, "must be a problem with the Windows computer, I'll fix it later."
If what's being produced is as bad as you say? Then waiting 90+ years is a moot thing. Crap is crap regardless of weither you get it NOW! or 90+ years from now.
That's not the point at all, but thanks for the troll anyway... The point is that if something is crap there is no way for the media companies to make their losses back in any time frame. Thus, it's a loss... They are only keeping it locked up for 90+ years to keep the public from making a possible profit. Wah, we didn't win, neither can you...
Now the GOOD STUFF you may not want to wait, but that's not the basis for your argument.
It shouldn't be dependent on the success or failure. It should be a reasonable and fixed time limit.
you have no rights to somebody else's work, any more than I have a right to break into your house and steal your stereo.
Obviously I was not clear or you don't understand the underlying issue... What I'm talking about are the rights that were taken away when copyright laws were extended to 90+ years.
And not all lawyers and lawmakers are on the side of the media conglomerates, so don't lose hope. The point is simply that this should be fought and won in Congress.
You will *not* be able to stand up against the finanacial backing of the conglomorates. You *will* lose to them because they have nothing but time on their side. You *cannot* outlast the longevitiy of an "individual" that cannot die in the traditional sense.
Their money is limitless and so is their lifespan.