because wireless carriers in the country hate the unexpected
So does any network admin worth his salt. This isn't a failing of wireless carriers, it's not even a negative. I want them to be like this, this attitude makes me a happy customer. Think about the alternatives; a completely open platform which would allow a wireless consumer to do ANYTHING on the network, possibly disrupting other customers. Namely, disrupting ME.
So no. Allow them to be cautious with their network, as long as they continue to provide decent service ( verizon, excellent network where I am ). I could stand lower costs, but that's not what this article is about.
You have successfully shown why data mining is bad...for you. However, you failed to show why google's DNS work is bad for anyone other than those that don't like their dns data snooped.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate your perspective. I just don't share it. To me, I understand the exchange inherent in google's "free" services, and it's an an exceptable exchange for me. No one is forcing me to use their services, and I can quit them at any time ( you'd have a point if the service was mandatory ).
For giggles, what kind of abuse do you anticipate? Paint me a worst case scenario, along with what you feel is likely
I know this is slashdot and it's assumed that datamining is bad...but why is it bad? I agree it's wrong when we don't know it's going on, but that's not the case here. Even if google wasn't up front about it, it's google; it's understood that's what they do.
Palin believes in abstinence based education and Intelligent Design. While I don't really care about her beliefs, these two points are very strong indicators of her critical thinking and comprehension skills.
I don't want any one in office who can so willfully disregard evidence in favor of their beliefs. We had that already, and it's a mess we're going to be cleaning up for decades to come.
Math; central valley vs new england state. In a NE state, english is the dominent language and parents have a higher concern for education than the first generation illegals who use school as day care. Where algebra may be appropriate at 4th grade in a NE state, we're still working on personal hygiene for many students in the 6th grade out here.
Not saying it's right or wrong, but the realities of the environment out here.
Possibly, probably. Interpretations vary by state. My main point is that the "problem" has been solved already, so question as to the work's legal status can be answered relatively simply by checking with local laws.
I understand the outrage one might feel by the use of public funds used in such a manner, but don't share them. If it's legal within the teacher's jurisdiction, then I say good for them.
If not explicitly spelled out in a contract, then the IP rights are determined by the laws of the state. Most of the time, these tend to error on the side of the individual rather than the organization.
This problem has been given plenty of exercise by coders and network admins, I doubt it's really a question anymore.
As to your overall point, the following holds true a majority of the time; No person will commit any action without that action providing them some benefit. Mother Theresa, for example, didn't do her charity work because she didn't want to. It gave her a sense of fulfillment, it felt right.
At a very base level, there is no such thing as a selfless act.
I think you two are talking at two completely different levels. Quotemstr is saying that greed is an integral part of our make up, indeed is an integral part of any organism's make up. We all strive to have more resources. Society has been set up in such a way that everyone gets more than they would have on their own. The disruptions come from people who disrupt normal societal rules in order to gain more resources, and naturally, our outrage comes from the fact that we were playing by the rules and they weren't, yet they were rewarded for it. He is absolutely correct.
To you, however, greed is almost a "sin" instead of a natural compulsion. It seems you'd like to focus on changing one of humanity's basic impulse, which is ironic given your signature. Abstinence doesn't work either, btw. Our laws should take in to account greed, endorse a more healthy form of greed. And by that I mean greed that serves the whole ( perhaps most importantly, me ).
Before you respond, think on this; What's the difference between greed and ambition?
That was what I was thinking; HP doesn't have a strong VoIP brand, and vendors will often push proprietary network solutions with their VoIP installations. 3com sure as hell does it, as does Cisco. Maybe that's what HP is eyeballing.
But I'd hazard that he knows just how many eyes google directs to his sites.
Instead, I'd suggest he doesn't like how efficient google's algorithm is. I generally get what I'm after with google. I'm guessing he wants to be able to directly control what a search on his sites turn up, relevant or not.
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Staying until 2am to fix a problem in the server room doesn't count for diddly if all anyone sees of you in public is you being rude to a secretary for losing her word icon. That's all that will be remembered.
An excellent point, and one which most IT folks fail to comprehend.
DRM stands for Digital Rights Management, which is exactly what we're talking about here. The term has been sullied by the RIAA/MPAA, but ignoring their attempts that's exactly what they should have done with this document; managed rights on the document.
On the contrary, a proper document management system would almost HAVE to be on the internet ( dependent on the organization in question of course ). The centralized server which controls access will need to be accessible somehow, and depending on the number of external entities involved I see no efficient method to grant them access other than to chat with the central server.
No, I'm not blaming P2P for anything, but rather I am saying this is the exact situation where DRM could be useful. A proper document management system would have prevent an information leak, even if the document itself had leaked.
The problem is not a disk space issue. Rather, this software tends to be crappy at best. I'm worried about the shit it leaves behind when you uninstall it.
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because wireless carriers in the country hate the unexpected
So does any network admin worth his salt. This isn't a failing of wireless carriers, it's not even a negative. I want them to be like this, this attitude makes me a happy customer. Think about the alternatives; a completely open platform which would allow a wireless consumer to do ANYTHING on the network, possibly disrupting other customers. Namely, disrupting ME.
So no. Allow them to be cautious with their network, as long as they continue to provide decent service ( verizon, excellent network where I am ). I could stand lower costs, but that's not what this article is about.
You have successfully shown why data mining is bad...for you. However, you failed to show why google's DNS work is bad for anyone other than those that don't like their dns data snooped.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate your perspective. I just don't share it. To me, I understand the exchange inherent in google's "free" services, and it's an an exceptable exchange for me. No one is forcing me to use their services, and I can quit them at any time ( you'd have a point if the service was mandatory ).
For giggles, what kind of abuse do you anticipate? Paint me a worst case scenario, along with what you feel is likely
I know this is slashdot and it's assumed that datamining is bad...but why is it bad? I agree it's wrong when we don't know it's going on, but that's not the case here. Even if google wasn't up front about it, it's google; it's understood that's what they do.
Why is datamining in this case a bad thing?
We don't know the full story, I'm guessing.
Palin believes in abstinence based education and Intelligent Design. While I don't really care about her beliefs, these two points are very strong indicators of her critical thinking and comprehension skills.
I don't want any one in office who can so willfully disregard evidence in favor of their beliefs. We had that already, and it's a mess we're going to be cleaning up for decades to come.
Then why do republican lawmakers worry so much about upsetting him?
Says the anonymous coward.
Fitting I suppose.
Can't believe you got modded Troll instead of insightful.
We don't vote FOR politicians in this country; we vote AGAINST "the other guy", and are left to deal with the results.
Could anyone here have honestly voted for McCain with Palin on the ticket as well?
Math; central valley vs new england state. In a NE state, english is the dominent language and parents have a higher concern for education than the first generation illegals who use school as day care. Where algebra may be appropriate at 4th grade in a NE state, we're still working on personal hygiene for many students in the 6th grade out here.
Not saying it's right or wrong, but the realities of the environment out here.
Possibly, probably. Interpretations vary by state. My main point is that the "problem" has been solved already, so question as to the work's legal status can be answered relatively simply by checking with local laws.
I understand the outrage one might feel by the use of public funds used in such a manner, but don't share them. If it's legal within the teacher's jurisdiction, then I say good for them.
If not explicitly spelled out in a contract, then the IP rights are determined by the laws of the state. Most of the time, these tend to error on the side of the individual rather than the organization.
This problem has been given plenty of exercise by coders and network admins, I doubt it's really a question anymore.
I think you are using a rosier definition of ambition than is standard. Websters has a more precise definition: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ambition
As to your overall point, the following holds true a majority of the time; No person will commit any action without that action providing them some benefit. Mother Theresa, for example, didn't do her charity work because she didn't want to. It gave her a sense of fulfillment, it felt right.
At a very base level, there is no such thing as a selfless act.
I think you two are talking at two completely different levels. Quotemstr is saying that greed is an integral part of our make up, indeed is an integral part of any organism's make up. We all strive to have more resources. Society has been set up in such a way that everyone gets more than they would have on their own. The disruptions come from people who disrupt normal societal rules in order to gain more resources, and naturally, our outrage comes from the fact that we were playing by the rules and they weren't, yet they were rewarded for it. He is absolutely correct.
To you, however, greed is almost a "sin" instead of a natural compulsion. It seems you'd like to focus on changing one of humanity's basic impulse, which is ironic given your signature. Abstinence doesn't work either, btw. Our laws should take in to account greed, endorse a more healthy form of greed. And by that I mean greed that serves the whole ( perhaps most importantly, me ).
Before you respond, think on this; What's the difference between greed and ambition?
That was what I was thinking; HP doesn't have a strong VoIP brand, and vendors will often push proprietary network solutions with their VoIP installations. 3com sure as hell does it, as does Cisco. Maybe that's what HP is eyeballing.
But I'd hazard that he knows just how many eyes google directs to his sites.
Instead, I'd suggest he doesn't like how efficient google's algorithm is. I generally get what I'm after with google. I'm guessing he wants to be able to directly control what a search on his sites turn up, relevant or not.
Staying until 2am to fix a problem in the server room doesn't count for diddly if all anyone sees of you in public is you being rude to a secretary for losing her word icon. That's all that will be remembered.
An excellent point, and one which most IT folks fail to comprehend.
Don't like the idea, don't read them.
Whew, that was a close one.
The purpose for it's invention is immaterial, the concept exists, as well as a need, and it has a name. Like it or not, DRM is it.
Or are we back to calling things by fluffy names because we can't handle the associations anymore? Freedom fries anyone?
You don't have DRM without some form of encryption.
DRM stands for Digital Rights Management, which is exactly what we're talking about here. The term has been sullied by the RIAA/MPAA, but ignoring their attempts that's exactly what they should have done with this document; managed rights on the document.
On the contrary, a proper document management system would almost HAVE to be on the internet ( dependent on the organization in question of course ). The centralized server which controls access will need to be accessible somehow, and depending on the number of external entities involved I see no efficient method to grant them access other than to chat with the central server.
No, I'm not blaming P2P for anything, but rather I am saying this is the exact situation where DRM could be useful. A proper document management system would have prevent an information leak, even if the document itself had leaked.
The problem is not a disk space issue. Rather, this software tends to be crappy at best. I'm worried about the shit it leaves behind when you uninstall it.
Where would this country be if our current crop of senators and representatives couldn't give lip service to that "god damned piece of paper"?