It's an Antec case with 5 fans and a Zalman CPU fan. Of the four smaller fans, two are pointing in at the front, one to the rear and one to the side with the big one on the top. Check my website for a link to the build page:)
It'll start up then occasionally reboot as it's going through the Windows startup. That's where the event log will identify a problem with the ATI driver.
Lately it's rebooted a couple of times for no apparent reason and bluescreened once last night.
As of last night and again this morning, the system starts, there is a flash of red from the ATI and it shuts down again. This continues until I hold down the power button.
The system generally sits about half way up a rack, well away from cat hair and dust, however it's been on the floor for the past month as we get ready to move to a new place. So I'll be checking for that tonight when I get home. Once clean, I'll put it on the book case instead of the floor.
Temps wise and over all it runs cool; motherboard at 44C and CPU at 21C. I'll have to see if I can find a video card temp sensor.
But once it's up, it generally doesn't have a problem. It's only on initial boot that it's generating these problems. That's why a temp issue seems unlikely. More of a driver (at least after Windows starts) or perhaps a seating issue since it's not even getting to the BIOS/PCI screen at the moment.
Probably shouldn't be a troll here. I have a $250 high end Radeon. Bought it along with a new system back in October. From the beginning, it would blue screen on boot but only once in a while. Now it's doing it more often (event log identifies the problem as with the ATI driver), it randomly boots the machine, and currently the machine is in a reboot cycle. Searching on the problem shows it's well known. Suggestions are to upgrade to the newest driver (fails) and disable some feature (fails). Reports of contacting ATI results in "it's Microsoft's fault". Calls to Microsoft result in "it's ATI's fault".
Yea. I agree. No matter the price, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
I'm not a console gamer at all but do play on the PC. My wife and I were at a friends house a week or two ago and they have a Wii. One of their friends came over and brought two additional controllers (so there were four). We bowled and played a bit of the other games that night. The next day my wife was on Craigslist looking for a used Wii:)
Amusing that Oracle had changed the licensing to screw Sun. It's one reason we weren't upgrading our T2000's. It was, from a price point anyway, cheaper to get Oracle on a Linux platform, probably Oracle Unbreakable Linux:)
And "crap, they want a serial number", shut down and open the machine to get the information. Then hope it works with other hardware in the system and the driver doesn't cause other problems.
I understand the office policy. Videos are a bit of a bandwidth hog. I have a problem with using videos to pass along something that could have just as easily (and better) been done as text with a few pictures.
Just because you can afford a $300,000, 3,500 sq ft house doesn't mean you should buy one.
Agreed. Unfortunately it seems that the ones that need to recognize the SAN are the 2.4 systems. They're the older ones. Newer systems are coming out on 4 u7 or 5.x and are just getting going so adding new space isn't necessary, yet.
Interesting. A couple of reads of the search finds the first one was a script that didn't need to be run as the guy had already rebooted. Since my issue is with SAN rescans, I adjusted your search a tad. I found the same IBM document I found before that said I needed to stop all I/O, unmount the file system... hell, may as well reboot at that point.
Unfortunately many of our Linux servers are still running 2.4 kernel. Since development drives deployment (to an extent; we're trying to get a catalog where development has to choose one from column A and one from column B but we're not there yet), we're stuck with what's on the systems for now.
Doesn't seem to work for me. Every time I have to add a SAN drive to a Linux box (Red Hat), I have to reboot the system. There are a few suggestions on recognizing the drives while the system is live but none have worked so far. We're pretty much resigned to rebooting when adding a SAN drive.
Windows XP Pro with an ATI 4780 and 9250 video card. I'm using Catalyst Control Center v9.2 and the drivers for the 4780. I can't install the 9250 drivers as it totally kills the video (I have to reinstall Windows to recover).
Several times a week the system will reboot on startup and periodically it will boot when starting an application (last time it was Adobe).
A review of the logs shows it seems to be a problem with one of the ATI files (don't recall the name but there are lots of posts about it on the 'net).
When I upgraded from Catalyst 8.12 to 9.2 (in part to try and fix the boot problem and because Left4Dead identified a newer version of the drivers), I lost the ability to turn one of my monitors sideways and ccc.exe would fail on startup. Starting the 8.12 installer to roll back, caused the system to reboot. Safe mode and clearing 9.2 let me install 8.12 however the system would continually boot. Safe mode again to uninstall 8.12 and then install 9.2 again and it worked properly.
Not a Windows problem but certainly not a stable system either.
They always do that or at least confirm the address. Better to confirm your address than assume it's right on the screen. And it's easier to say that than it is to explain it to you:)
In the early 1990's we started instrumenting Word and learning about how people actually used the software (this was before the internet so this was a special version of the product we solicited volunteers to run and then we would collect the data via lots of floppies).
Appreciate all your effort in creating the internet.
As an aside, we went bowling with a couple of my wife's friends a month ago. The first time I'd been bowling for quite some time, mostly due to bowling alleys being big smoker havens.
Anyway, it took 3 or 4 tries to get the neeto keen graphics scorekeeper up. It kept blue screening. Once we got playing, all the flashing disco lights kept us from enjoying the game. When the lights bailed (they had to reboot the server again), we got some pretty good bowling in until the lights came back on.
Yea, we won't be going back.
[John]
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Actually the roadrunner and coyote cartoons of even the 70's were censored from what I remember in the late 60's. I was watching them with my kids in the early 80's (I'm almost 52) and surprised when some of the scenes I remember were trimmed out.
And then the next call would have been: "My password doesn't work. I keep resetting it and it never works afterwards. Stupid application doesn't work!"
Not Vista, XP Pro. And I'm using the old classic theme as well. :)
[John]
It's an Antec case with 5 fans and a Zalman CPU fan. Of the four smaller fans, two are pointing in at the front, one to the rear and one to the side with the big one on the top. Check my website for a link to the build page :)
It'll start up then occasionally reboot as it's going through the Windows startup. That's where the event log will identify a problem with the ATI driver.
Lately it's rebooted a couple of times for no apparent reason and bluescreened once last night.
As of last night and again this morning, the system starts, there is a flash of red from the ATI and it shuts down again. This continues until I hold down the power button.
The system generally sits about half way up a rack, well away from cat hair and dust, however it's been on the floor for the past month as we get ready to move to a new place. So I'll be checking for that tonight when I get home. Once clean, I'll put it on the book case instead of the floor.
Temps wise and over all it runs cool; motherboard at 44C and CPU at 21C. I'll have to see if I can find a video card temp sensor.
But once it's up, it generally doesn't have a problem. It's only on initial boot that it's generating these problems. That's why a temp issue seems unlikely. More of a driver (at least after Windows starts) or perhaps a seating issue since it's not even getting to the BIOS/PCI screen at the moment.
[John]
Probably shouldn't be a troll here. I have a $250 high end Radeon. Bought it along with a new system back in October. From the beginning, it would blue screen on boot but only once in a while. Now it's doing it more often (event log identifies the problem as with the ATI driver), it randomly boots the machine, and currently the machine is in a reboot cycle. Searching on the problem shows it's well known. Suggestions are to upgrade to the newest driver (fails) and disable some feature (fails). Reports of contacting ATI results in "it's Microsoft's fault". Calls to Microsoft result in "it's ATI's fault".
Yea. I agree. No matter the price, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
[John]
I was working at NASA HQ at the time and we were docked half a day's pay for leaving when Management told us to go.
So even if I evacuate with instruction from management, it counted.
[John]
I'm not a console gamer at all but do play on the PC. My wife and I were at a friends house a week or two ago and they have a Wii. One of their friends came over and brought two additional controllers (so there were four). We bowled and played a bit of the other games that night. The next day my wife was on Craigslist looking for a used Wii :)
[John]
Amusing that Oracle had changed the licensing to screw Sun. It's one reason we weren't upgrading our T2000's. It was, from a price point anyway, cheaper to get Oracle on a Linux platform, probably Oracle Unbreakable Linux :)
I wonder how they'll handle that now.
[John]
And "crap, they want a serial number", shut down and open the machine to get the information. Then hope it works with other hardware in the system and the driver doesn't cause other problems.
[John]
I understand the office policy. Videos are a bit of a bandwidth hog. I have a problem with using videos to pass along something that could have just as easily (and better) been done as text with a few pictures.
Just because you can afford a $300,000, 3,500 sq ft house doesn't mean you should buy one.
[John]
Jeeze, can't we do stuff without videos any more?
Blocked at work.
[John]
Damn. Sounds like Wednesday night's Shadowrun game.
[John]
Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
I play Shadowrun if that helps. Heck, I'm running a game tonight and another one on Sunday.
By the way, the Shadowrun 20th Anniversary Edition PDF is out :)
[John]
Agreed. Unfortunately it seems that the ones that need to recognize the SAN are the 2.4 systems. They're the older ones. Newer systems are coming out on 4 u7 or 5.x and are just getting going so adding new space isn't necessary, yet.
[John]
Interesting. A couple of reads of the search finds the first one was a script that didn't need to be run as the guy had already rebooted. Since my issue is with SAN rescans, I adjusted your search a tad. I found the same IBM document I found before that said I needed to stop all I/O, unmount the file system... hell, may as well reboot at that point.
Unfortunately many of our Linux servers are still running 2.4 kernel. Since development drives deployment (to an extent; we're trying to get a catalog where development has to choose one from column A and one from column B but we're not there yet), we're stuck with what's on the systems for now.
Which means reboot if we need more SAN space.
[John]
Doesn't seem to work for me. Every time I have to add a SAN drive to a Linux box (Red Hat), I have to reboot the system. There are a few suggestions on recognizing the drives while the system is live but none have worked so far. We're pretty much resigned to rebooting when adding a SAN drive.
[John]
Windows XP Pro with an ATI 4780 and 9250 video card. I'm using Catalyst Control Center v9.2 and the drivers for the 4780. I can't install the 9250 drivers as it totally kills the video (I have to reinstall Windows to recover).
Several times a week the system will reboot on startup and periodically it will boot when starting an application (last time it was Adobe).
A review of the logs shows it seems to be a problem with one of the ATI files (don't recall the name but there are lots of posts about it on the 'net).
When I upgraded from Catalyst 8.12 to 9.2 (in part to try and fix the boot problem and because Left4Dead identified a newer version of the drivers), I lost the ability to turn one of my monitors sideways and ccc.exe would fail on startup. Starting the 8.12 installer to roll back, caused the system to reboot. Safe mode and clearing 9.2 let me install 8.12 however the system would continually boot. Safe mode again to uninstall 8.12 and then install 9.2 again and it worked properly.
Not a Windows problem but certainly not a stable system either.
[John]
They always do that or at least confirm the address. Better to confirm your address than assume it's right on the screen. And it's easier to say that than it is to explain it to you :)
[John]
In the early 1990's we started instrumenting Word and learning about how people actually used the software (this was before the internet so this was a special version of the product we solicited volunteers to run and then we would collect the data via lots of floppies).
Appreciate all your effort in creating the internet.
*clap* *clap* *clap*
[John]
As an aside, we went bowling with a couple of my wife's friends a month ago. The first time I'd been bowling for quite some time, mostly due to bowling alleys being big smoker havens.
Anyway, it took 3 or 4 tries to get the neeto keen graphics scorekeeper up. It kept blue screening. Once we got playing, all the flashing disco lights kept us from enjoying the game. When the lights bailed (they had to reboot the server again), we got some pretty good bowling in until the lights came back on.
Yea, we won't be going back.
[John]
Technically more is less.
[John]
Not only that, I don't have a car. Idiots.
[John]
Actually the roadrunner and coyote cartoons of even the 70's were censored from what I remember in the late 60's. I was watching them with my kids in the early 80's (I'm almost 52) and surprised when some of the scenes I remember were trimmed out.
[John]
Stuck fairly early in Dead Space so *meh* for that one until I can figure it out.
I like Fallout 3 so far. Much farther along that one. I really like the different radio stations though :)
[John]
And then the next call would have been: "My password doesn't work. I keep resetting it and it never works afterwards. Stupid application doesn't work!"
[John]
Yea but you still have to take a day off of work. So it's still an inconvenience even if you win.
[John]