Avoiding buying the product is not the right thing to do. You have to tell the retailer that you would have bought it but you received a spam about it.
"I would have bought an RC from you but not now because I received spam"
If one person walked in to a retailer and sang a verse and walked out they might think you were crazy and think no more of it.
If two people walked in and sang a verse, they might think you were both gay and think no more of it.
But if three people, three people walked in to a retailer and sang a verse, in harmony, they might think twice about it next time.
But if sixty people, sixty people a day walked in to a retailer and sang a version, they might think it was a movement.
And friends it is. The anti-spam, I won't buy RC movement. And all you got to do is walk in to a retailer, sing a verse, and walk out.
"I would have bought an RC from you but not now because I received spam"
Shoot, I only read the negative reviews anyway. Positive reviews only tell what people liked about it. Negative ones tell what people didn't like. Since there are normally a very small fraction of negative reviews, I can read through them and find out if someone is having a problem with something I want to do/read/learn.
Of course, then I'll go back to O'Reilly and buy their book anyway.
Or something similar. Set up a method of overwhelming the receiver so that it always displays spanish ads or classical.
I wonder what happens when an overwhelming poor audience drives by. Ads for 40's? Cigarettes? And when the upper crust goes by, ads for diamonds etc.
It might be fun to play with the receiver and see what kinds of ads you could force. Or just park the car next to the receivers and blast punk waves and see if you can keep the same ads up.
Ooo, better troll Coward. Unfortunately you actually don't know how I dress, do you (unless you actually read my other responses)?
As I said to the last Coward (was that you?), it's most likely my history in the office with willingness to learn, experience, and skills coming after.
(Any other responses deleted. No feeding the trolls.)
Also I'm in the senior engineer position in a good group. The manager works with us, not in some lofty office somewhere above us. We crack jokes at each other all the time (the NT admins are in the next set of cubes).
It seems unlikely, based on our situation, that Management (capital M) would actually tell our group to get dressed up.
Admins seldom see the customer in our situation. Developers and the technical leads are constantly meeting with the customer to figure out how to make the programs work.
That's the problem with talking without enough information. Granted, the words may sound harsh but you had to be there. The environment is fairly loose, we're all behind locked doors so the customer has a fairly low chance of seeing us. Since we're in Tier 3 support, the chance of us going to see a customer is very small.
The manager didn't drop in on our office, he works there along side us. He wasn't very serious, based on the way it was presented to the group.
Basically it was a funny situation where some smart-assed remark I made contributed to the humor.
While the workforce here at the office has been trimmed, there's no apparent change in the dress of my cow-orkers. Management (big 'M') has not said anything to any of us.
Not too long ago, my manager came into the server room and declared, "everyone needs to start wearing slacks and button down shirts. Ties aren't necessary but we need to present a better image to the customer."
I once mistyped my passphrase while encrypting and was not able to depgp my file.
I just typed faster and faster until I fumbled it in the right combination and got the file open. I quickly reencrypted it with a good passphrase but it was odd that I used the same bad phrase twice for encryption and cool that I was able to fumble it correctly to get it back.
It started out as an offshoot of my DND gaming (programming user monitoring tools) and my typesetting at work (graphic artist). When I lost that job, I found a part time job programming in BASICA. From there I move into LANS.
Now I'm being paid to be a Unix geek at NASA.
It's been 22 years now since I picked up a Sinclair and I still love what I do.
3. Mandrake. It works best with my weird gaming hardware. I've installed Slackware, Red Hat and Debian/GNU. I've also installed BeOS, OpenBSD, FreeBSD and Solaris x86 on my home systems. My gateway is a stripped Red Hat on a Pentium.
Games: Commander Keen! Nethack (I'm in the docs). Rogue on my Palm. Doom/Duke/Hexen, Quake(s), C&C/RA, StarCraft/Diablo(s), Carmageddon(s), Jazz Jackrabbit(s) and Lemmings(').
Compaq sold space on XP to AOL, Microsoft should do the same thing. Pay Compaq to put MSN on the desktop.
In fact, that's what they should do with it all. Ship Windows with nothing but DOS and the Windows Shell. Then if Microsoft wants to put icons on the desktop, they pay the OEM's for the privledge just like other companies.
Step two is releasing the Windows shell code so that others can code to it.
You're off by a couple of years on my BBS. I ran mine from about mid 85 to the end of 87.
Two 60 meg Quantum drives at the end. One MFM, one RLL both running at RLL and giving me a grand total of 180 or so megs of space.
My BBS had more files that just about the total of the entire Stafford VA area.
I still have a tape backup of my data files and a couple of floppies with my main files on them. (And the tape drive and the archive board, hell and the system in pieces in boxes at my place now.)
All righty, let's see what I can do after 70 hours of overtime in the past two weeks (my PFY is on vacation) and 2:00 am page.
10 Easy steps Every User Should Know on 'How to Please Your Auto Mechanic':
1. When you bring your car in to have work done, leave your seat all the way up and your radio on the local rap/country/classic rock station at 20. We really love your music and would rather listen to it than work on your car. Don't forget to leave the dirty diaper in the back seat and the food wrappers on the floor.
2. Ignore the idiot lights. They are there to tell you that you have oil or that your car is hot. Don't bother to tell us, we'll figure it out from the smell.
3. When the tow truck driver says he's coming right over, go into your house and wait for him. We know where you live and will knock on your door when we get there.
4. When the Mechanic says that your AC is a little low on freon, tell him that you'll catch it next time. The AC will operate just fine while low on lubricant.
5. When the Mechanic is elbow deep in your engine and whacks his knuckles on the power steering pump, say "ouch, that must have hurt". He appreciates your sympathy.
6. Stop by every 10 minutes and ask how it's going. He appreciates the interruptions and loves to stop what he's doing to tell you what he's doing.
7. When your car is experiencing problems, drop your keys off in the night slot with nothing but your garbled phone number and feeble description of your car. We like going to each car in the lot trying the key and testing the security systems.
10. Don't learn the proper term for anything technical. We know exactly what you mean by "My thingy blew up."
No no. Microsoft will come out with Media player but it'll be 200 megs in size becuase, like Internet Explorer and Outlook (both for Solaris), they include a virtual Windows layer that include.dlls,.vxds and other trash. Then they don't have to rewrite the Outbreak or Exploder code.
Sure there are. And they are great too. If anyone can tell you how Windows *does* work, it's O'Reilly. Check out http://windows.oreilly.com for their series on Windows and Windows NT. Especially the one on Event Logging. Now *that's* a funny book:-)
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Avoiding buying the product is not the right thing to do. You have to tell the retailer that you would have bought it but you received a spam about it.
"I would have bought an RC from you
but not now because I received spam"
If one person walked in to a retailer and sang a verse and walked out they might think you were crazy and think no more of it.
If two people walked in and sang a verse, they might think you were both gay and think no more of it.
But if three people, three people walked in to a retailer and sang a verse, in harmony, they might think twice about it next time.
But if sixty people, sixty people a day walked in to a retailer and sang a version, they might think it was a movement.
And friends it is. The anti-spam, I won't buy RC movement. And all you got to do is walk in to a retailer, sing a verse, and walk out.
"I would have bought an RC from you
but not now because I received spam"
See you tomorrow at the rally.
[John]
Shoot, I only read the negative reviews anyway. Positive reviews only tell what people liked about it. Negative ones tell what people didn't like. Since there are normally a very small fraction of negative reviews, I can read through them and find out if someone is having a problem with something I want to do/read/learn.
Of course, then I'll go back to O'Reilly and buy their book anyway.
[John]
Or something similar. Set up a method of overwhelming the receiver so that it always displays spanish ads or classical.
I wonder what happens when an overwhelming poor audience drives by. Ads for 40's? Cigarettes? And when the upper crust goes by, ads for diamonds etc.
It might be fun to play with the receiver and see what kinds of ads you could force. Or just park the car next to the receivers and blast punk waves and see if you can keep the same ads up.
Pleasent Diversions
[John]
Project. At least at work.
I am 90% windows free but I still have to pop across the cube to a windows box to work on a "project".
[John]
Ooo, better troll Coward. Unfortunately you actually don't know how I dress, do you (unless you actually read my other responses)?
As I said to the last Coward (was that you?), it's most likely my history in the office with willingness to learn, experience, and skills coming after.
(Any other responses deleted. No feeding the trolls.)
(And it's [John], not John).
[John]
Also I'm in the senior engineer position in a good group. The manager works with us, not in some lofty office somewhere above us. We crack jokes at each other all the time (the NT admins are in the next set of cubes).
It seems unlikely, based on our situation, that Management (capital M) would actually tell our group to get dressed up.
Admins seldom see the customer in our situation. Developers and the technical leads are constantly meeting with the customer to figure out how to make the programs work.
[John]
That's the problem with talking without enough information. Granted, the words may sound harsh but you had to be there. The environment is fairly loose, we're all behind locked doors so the customer has a fairly low chance of seeing us. Since we're in Tier 3 support, the chance of us going to see a customer is very small.
The manager didn't drop in on our office, he works there along side us. He wasn't very serious, based on the way it was presented to the group.
Basically it was a funny situation where some smart-assed remark I made contributed to the humor.
[John]
Ok Coward. Thanks for the input.
23 years experience. 11 years history here.
They keep me on mainly because of the history I suppose. They paid the last company I worked for $10,000 for me to stay here.
Bills are paid. I have a mortgage and a motorcycle payment. I could probably survive on significantly less than I do now.
If they decided to release me today, I'd go out and get another job fairly quickly if my mailbox is any indication.
Not MCSE. 3Com, Sun and Cisco certified (3Wizard/CNP/CCNP).
No one's complained about my dress so far, even with the "Stop Saving E-Mail On The Server" shirt I had made and then wore.
Nice troll though. About a 6 I'd say.
[John]
While the workforce here at the office has been trimmed, there's no apparent change in the dress of my cow-orkers. Management (big 'M') has not said anything to any of us.
Not too long ago, my manager came into the server room and declared, "everyone needs to start wearing slacks and button down shirts. Ties aren't necessary but we need to present a better image to the customer."
Me, "That's fine, I quit."
Him, quickly, "Except you, [John]."
[John]
I once mistyped my passphrase while encrypting and was not able to depgp my file.
I just typed faster and faster until I fumbled it in the right combination and got the file open. I quickly reencrypted it with a good passphrase but it was odd that I used the same bad phrase twice for encryption and cool that I was able to fumble it correctly to get it back.
Now that's great security.
To reply to your .sig
Consequences, schmonsequences... as long as I'm rich.
I bought my D30 with the cheesy book back in 79 or 80. I guess you're not old enough :-)
You doof! You have Outbreak _and_ you have autopreview enabled. You don't deserve Linux.
A majority of problems that occur on NT systems happen becuase they were not patched or left in default mode.
Check your settings! You _trust_ Microsoft?
Don't even _try_ linux.
You scare me.
Carl
As others have said, you don't know me then.
It started out as an offshoot of my DND gaming (programming user monitoring tools) and my typesetting at work (graphic artist). When I lost that job, I found a part time job programming in BASICA. From there I move into LANS.
Now I'm being paid to be a Unix geek at NASA.
It's been 22 years now since I picked up a Sinclair and I still love what I do.
[John]
Damn, does this mean I can't ride the airplanes anymore?
You're picking on geeks again. I protest.
[John]
1. Vi. Doesn't everybody :-)
2. 140 or so
3. Mandrake. It works best with my weird gaming hardware. I've installed Slackware, Red Hat and Debian/GNU. I've also installed BeOS, OpenBSD, FreeBSD and Solaris x86 on my home systems. My gateway is a stripped Red Hat on a Pentium.
Games: Commander Keen! Nethack (I'm in the docs). Rogue on my Palm. Doom/Duke/Hexen, Quake(s), C&C/RA, StarCraft/Diablo(s), Carmageddon(s), Jazz Jackrabbit(s) and Lemmings(').
[John]
Compaq sold space on XP to AOL, Microsoft should do the same thing. Pay Compaq to put MSN on the desktop.
In fact, that's what they should do with it all. Ship Windows with nothing but DOS and the Windows Shell. Then if Microsoft wants to put icons on the desktop, they pay the OEM's for the privledge just like other companies.
Step two is releasing the Windows shell code so that others can code to it.
Carl
You're off by a couple of years on my BBS. I ran mine from about mid 85 to the end of 87.
Two 60 meg Quantum drives at the end. One MFM, one RLL both running at RLL and giving me a grand total of 180 or so megs of space.
My BBS had more files that just about the total of the entire Stafford VA area.
I still have a tape backup of my data files and a couple of floppies with my main files on them. (And the tape drive and the archive board, hell and the system in pieces in boxes at my place now.)
[John]
You forgot something:
"Sir," Varick plugs a laptop into a projector
and it blue screens.
Bill chuckles. Then laughs. Then screams as Ballmer, the cat, and The Accountant head for the hills.
John
It's a common phrase:
I doubt I'll be on my deathbed wishing I spent more time at this desk.
But I'd rather be on my deathbed than in my death-cardboardbox wishing I'd spent more time at my desk
It's planning that's the problem. Many people are scared about what's going to happen when it's time to retire.
So they work long hours, trying to build up the funds, so they can relax when they're 60, assuming they get that far.
Me, I enjoy computers. My hobby way back at the beginning was computers. Now I get paid for it.
John
All righty, let's see what I can do after 70 hours of overtime in the past two weeks (my PFY is on vacation) and 2:00 am page.
10 Easy steps Every User Should Know on 'How to Please Your Auto Mechanic':
1. When you bring your car in to have work done, leave your seat all the way up and your radio on the local rap/country/classic rock station at 20. We really love your music and would rather listen to it than work on your car. Don't forget to leave the dirty diaper in the back seat and the food wrappers on the floor.
2. Ignore the idiot lights. They are there to tell you that you have oil or that your car is hot. Don't bother to tell us, we'll figure it out from the smell.
3. When the tow truck driver says he's coming right over, go into your house and wait for him. We know where you live and will knock on your door when we get there.
4. When the Mechanic says that your AC is a little low on freon, tell him that you'll catch it next time. The AC will operate just fine while low on lubricant.
5. When the Mechanic is elbow deep in your engine and whacks his knuckles on the power steering pump, say "ouch, that must have hurt". He appreciates your sympathy.
6. Stop by every 10 minutes and ask how it's going. He appreciates the interruptions and loves to stop what he's doing to tell you what he's doing.
7. When your car is experiencing problems, drop your keys off in the night slot with nothing but your garbled phone number and feeble description of your car. We like going to each car in the lot trying the key and testing the security systems.
10. Don't learn the proper term for anything technical. We know exactly what you mean by "My thingy blew up."
That'll be $935.34.
Thank you. I was going to say the same thing.
Did someone leave the door open. There appears to be anklebiters here somewhere.
Solaris is not Unix
AIX is not Unix
*BSD is not Unix
Linux is not Unix
Irix is not Unix
Ultrix is not Unix
They are *all* Unixlike.
Unix is a specification. They all follow the spec and then "Value Add".
Fscking trolls.
[John]
No no. Microsoft will come out with Media player but it'll be 200 megs in size becuase, like Internet Explorer and Outlook (both for Solaris), they include a virtual Windows layer that include .dlls, .vxds and other trash. Then they don't have to rewrite the Outbreak or Exploder code.
Eventually we'll have; Windows for Unix
[John]
Sure there are. And they are great too. If anyone can tell you how Windows *does* work, it's O'Reilly. Check out http://windows.oreilly.com for their series on Windows and Windows NT. Especially the one on Event Logging. Now *that's* a funny book :-)
[John]
Actually it was closer to weeks than days. I got the strategy guide out of it for free but I don't use them so it wasn't all that great a deal.
[John]