I dunno... he kinda has a point... here's the specs of the "$100" laptop:
-- 500mhz
-- 7.5" screen, 470x350 color, 600x800 black & white
-- 128 MB of DRAM
-- 1 GB of flash memory (no hard drive)
-- Wireless networking support using an "Extended Range" 802.11b wireless chipset run at a low bitrate (2Mbps) to minimize power consumption.
-- Conventional alphanumeric keyboard localized for the country of use.
-- touchpad for mouse control and handwriting
-- two loudspeakers
-- 4 USB ports.
-- Power sources:
---- AC Cord that doubles as carrying strap
---- two C (R14) or D size rechargable batteries and a hand-crank generator
---- four C (LR14) or D (LR20) alkaline batteries.
PRICE = $200 retail (it's $100 to manufacture, you'll have to pay ~$200)
For $378 + taxes I got:
-- 15.0" TFT XGA (1024x768) screen
-- AMD Sempron(TM) 2800+ (1.6GHz/256KB L2 Cache)
-- 256MB DDR SDRAM (1x256MB) (upgradeable to 1gB)
-- 40 gB hard drive
-- ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M graphics processor
-- DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive
-- windows xp home sp2
-- built-in altec lansing speakers
-- Integrated 56K Modem + 10/100 Ethernet LAN
-- 54g(TM) 802.11b/g WLAN
-- 2 USB ports
And that's available now. Remember this "$100" laptop isnt avaiable yet, by the time it is we'll probably see many more $400 laptops, perhaps even lower.
I'm cheap, but even I'd spend the extra $200 to have a screen twice the size, 4x faster processor, CD-RW/DVD, etc etc etc. Even if I was given this for free I would use it very infrequently, even before I had the laptop I'd probably just wait until I got to a desktop.
Might be nice for people who have no access to a PC and really can't afford a few more dollars to buy a real laptop or who have little access to electricity like soldiers on a battlefield.
It's real, but it was just something some guy made, not a commercial product like the rest of the USB drives there.
Since it was homemade I dont really consider it in the same category as the rest of the products since it'd be easy for someone to make all kinds of strange USB drives at home. Example: hollow out a snickers candy bar and shove a USB drive in there! Tada! I now have one of the weirdest USB drives ever!
"There's stuff I'm missing, no doubt, and I didn't cover every protocol out there, but those are the major things for me."
you forgot the one major thing: Yahoo links to your yahoo profile, so when some internet chick IM's me I can quickly check her profile and remember who the hell she is with picture and all.
AOL and MSN doesn't do that.
Trillian also adds history, another great feature so I can see what I was talking to her about the nite before and if i forgot something important she told me to do.
it's not cool hearing "don't you remember me?" every night:-/ I feel like the guy on Memento.
"Not saying you are wrong, but a couple things to consider:"
yeah yeah and i'm sure there's some in a warehouse somewhere and etc, but the point remains that out of the xbox360 systems bought by members of that particular forum only 15% has had problems, and remember that 15% would most likely be more vocal than those with working systems because they're too busy playing.
I still say this means the system is relatively stable.
" Seems like they got 1699 Parts of the x-box to the market:"
LOL was the article foreshadowing? "Alarmed, Mr. Holmdahl soon led a team of engineers to China, where he found that certain test equipment was bogging down as production speeded up. Ten hard days of troubleshooting and writing new software ultimately fixed the problem..."
yeah.... my guess is "ten hard days of troubleshooting" is actually 1 hour of explaining "don't bother testing, it'll only effect a few units" and 9 days 23 hrs of Chineseprostitutes.
"Dude, if I had an X-Box and it was working properly, why would I be answering polls on some "team X-Box" site??? I'd be spending every waking hour (outside of work) playing Call of Duty 2 or something. Frankly, I'm stunned that their number isn't far closer to 100%."
well, the real number is closer to 0.0001%, but apparently a few people did take a second to go on the forums to brag about their working xbox360 which is why it's only 85%. Think it's Cartman syndrome: got a cool new toy = gotta brag about it.
The people who paid $300+ for a non-working xbox360 have nothing better to do than to bitch about it online so that's where the 15% came from.
Just the fact that it's only 15% means there's very, very few people with broken xbox360s because when shit breaks the first thing the internet community does is bitch about it 24/7. If there was truly a lot of busted xbox360s out there then this number would be 100%.
incase of/., there's blue from Bell Labs, pink from Carnegie Tech, orange from Princeton, and several shades of off-white. Each of them have pretty logos even.
"How do I get my hands on one of these $100 laptops?"
from TFA: "He did not say who would build the machine, which will cost $110 to make, but at least five are considering bids to do so. Negroponte said the laptops could become available on the commercial market, but at a higher price."
Like he said, we'll get them, they'll just cost more but... um... so it's going to cost $110 to make, and they're selling them to the countries for $100? Or are the countries paying $110 each, and selling them to... huh? How are these $100 laptops if they cost $110 to make, who's only paying $100? The countries? And he's going to eat $10 per laptop multiplied by 1 million laptops?
i love this though: "He said they were colored lime green, with a yellow hand crank, to make them appealing to children and to fend off potential thieves."
ohhh.... so if they were Dell black, grey & silver they'd be stolen more right? interesting theory... yeah what man would wanna sit on the subway with a lime green laptop in his lap?
Maybe the commercial versions will be $199 but painted Dell black, grey & silver and have upgradeable flash memory storage?
"Who would use a computer if it is just to write boring reports or to compute some math formulas?"
EXACTLY! I mean, it's not like computers are business tools or anything, they're really just for all-u-can-download porn in ur room...
even on the earliest PCs we had ASCII porn... hmm... maybe these laptops can have ASCII porn... wait, they display photos right? HMMMM... they might be useful after all.
"But when MS goes to pure 64-bit, there may well still be a lot of legacy Pentium IVs around running just fine. "
well, in the
original article that the article links to it says: "Separately, Microsoft also announced that the Compute Cluster Server and several other upcoming server software releases will work only with 64-bit processors."
They're talking specifically about server software, not really desktop.
In the article the post links to it says: "company executives detailed its plans to add support 64-bit microprocessors in its server applications and operating systems."
so they're supporting 64 bit in their OS, but not requiring it... least none of the stories said they're requiring it.
I agree, I think it's a mistake to require 64 bit support in desktop OS's in the near future, I mean there's 5 year old processors that run the latest XP just fine so to say 5 yrs from now that most processors made today wont run Windows 2010 (twenty-ten;) seems to be a pretty serious statement.
Are they trying to kill Intel sales?
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"IN the last few decades the US has been involved in more wars then any other country on the planet. "
that's because somehow we've become some stupid global police force so whenever there's an injustice in the world everyone cries to the US to come save their a$$. It kinda started with WWI and went from there.
Sometimes i just wish we could say "look, i know your people are getting slaughtered by the thousands and it's sad, really, but we're trying to study the properties and behavior of the ionosphere here!" (that's what HAARP does btw)
hey least i tied this into the article, which is more than i can say for most the posts on here...
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We'll benefit from it, practically every technology for military use has filtered down to civilian use. Ever heard of the microwave?Cell phone? How about GPS?
If this only cost a few million I think this is money well spent!
"The phrase is "couldn't care less", only idiots who've misheard say "could care less". Ignore them."
Actually, the only idiots we should be ignoring are the ignorant fucks that don't google something to see if they're right before posting wrong information and looking like a dumbass:
3. Word Choice: New Uses, Common Confusion, and Constraints
78. could care less / couldn't care less
"I could care less! you might say sometime in disgust. You might just as easily have said I couldn't care less and meant the same thing! How can this be? When taken literally, the phrase I could care less means "I care more than I might," rather than "I don't care at all." But the beauty of sarcasm is that it can turn meanings on their head, thus allowing could care less to work as an equivalent for couldn't care less. "
from TFA:
"And the math can be confusing, according to Kay. He has seen studies that say AMD's Opteron chips are using less power than Intel's offerings, but companies would need more Opterons to do the same amount of work. Companies would end up with more chips to do the same job and their spending more and using more power overall. "
what?? Since when?? That directly condradicts this/. article: "'AMD currently offers the most attractive dual core option. The Athlon 64 X2 3800+ may cost $87 more than its Intel counterpart, the Pentium D 820, but the AMD chip is a much better performer. It also uses considerably less power.'"
"It would be interesting to find out how much time he spent selling his sub-divisions or enforcing his taxes. If this took the equivalent of a full time job or a lot of time, he hasn't necessarily made any money back..."
Not really, depends on what he would have been doing instead. If he would have been using that time just playing some other game anyway then he has made his money back.
"Obviously this guy understood capitalism and the history of the United States. The US was able to become very profitable because it took land from the Native Americans and did something unheard of to the indigenous poeple; put a value on land."
problem with this is that it's completely virtual. The creators of Project Entropia could, at any time, create another, better looking island and cause your island to depreciate, and with no limit to how large this virtual world can be they can make as many islands or space stations or whatever they want forever.
What if the company goes under, does that mean everyone loses their property and value? Basically they have created a way to make their own money, if this is legit I'm shocked google or microsoft hasnt gotten involved yet if people are really paying as much as they claim. This is a huge risk, I'm quite surprised so many people are willing to spend real money on non-existant property that could disappear forever instantly.... unless somehow they earned the money in the game, then it wouldnt seem so much like real money anymore, you're just playing a game...
"you can watch your ipod show over and over. The Comcast deal is $0.99 per play."
so this is nothing like the "sales model that gained popularity with downloaded music" then, is it? This is more like videos on demand, where you watch it when you want to watch it and never again.
Too bad really, would be cool to download all the episodes of a particular TV show and watch them from home and before someone says "but that'll kill DVD sales!"... so? What does a
DVD containing a season of TV shows cost? $30? And how many episodes are in a season? 23?.... um, ok, so they're losing money, but actually they're making more money because I'd imagine it's a little cheaper to distribute via the internet vs retail stores with all the packaging, shipping, retailer profits, etc etc etc.
when will they finally just give people what they want and stop trying to shove crap down our throats? Apple's the only one that figured it out... sometimes I wish Apple would take over the world, it'd be a better place.
"The administrators just don't want students blogging about the steamy sex lives they never had. It's jealously, plain and simple."
You sure? I've had friends that were subs for high schools and I seriously considered it when i was in between jobs, and I don't think I'd mind at all hearing about little cheerleader Amy's hot sexual exploits in the locker room then seeing her in a tight short skirt the next day in class...
Or better yet, reading that she has a crush on a certain teacher and taking advantage of that;) Maybe they're really worried about teachers and administrators taking advantage of students and then being hit with lawsuits from parents?
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-- 500mhz
-- 7.5" screen, 470x350 color, 600x800 black & white
-- 128 MB of DRAM
-- 1 GB of flash memory (no hard drive)
-- Wireless networking support using an "Extended Range" 802.11b wireless chipset run at a low bitrate (2Mbps) to minimize power consumption.
-- Conventional alphanumeric keyboard localized for the country of use.
-- touchpad for mouse control and handwriting
-- two loudspeakers
-- 4 USB ports.
-- Power sources:
---- AC Cord that doubles as carrying strap
---- two C (R14) or D size rechargable batteries and a hand-crank generator
---- four C (LR14) or D (LR20) alkaline batteries.
PRICE = $200 retail (it's $100 to manufacture, you'll have to pay ~$200)
I got in on those HP ze200z series laptops at Walmart for $378 the day after thanksgiving. Dell and several other companies are offering $400 laptops.
For $378 + taxes I got:
-- 15.0" TFT XGA (1024x768) screen
-- AMD Sempron(TM) 2800+ (1.6GHz/256KB L2 Cache)
-- 256MB DDR SDRAM (1x256MB) (upgradeable to 1gB)
-- 40 gB hard drive
-- ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M graphics processor -- DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive
-- windows xp home sp2
-- built-in altec lansing speakers
-- Integrated 56K Modem + 10/100 Ethernet LAN -- 54g(TM) 802.11b/g WLAN
-- 2 USB ports
And that's available now. Remember this "$100" laptop isnt avaiable yet, by the time it is we'll probably see many more $400 laptops, perhaps even lower.
I'm cheap, but even I'd spend the extra $200 to have a screen twice the size, 4x faster processor, CD-RW/DVD, etc etc etc. Even if I was given this for free I would use it very infrequently, even before I had the laptop I'd probably just wait until I got to a desktop.
Might be nice for people who have no access to a PC and really can't afford a few more dollars to buy a real laptop or who have little access to electricity like soldiers on a battlefield.
Since it was homemade I dont really consider it in the same category as the rest of the products since it'd be easy for someone to make all kinds of strange USB drives at home. Example: hollow out a snickers candy bar and shove a USB drive in there! Tada! I now have one of the weirdest USB drives ever!
you forgot the one major thing: Yahoo links to your yahoo profile, so when some internet chick IM's me I can quickly check her profile and remember who the hell she is with picture and all.
AOL and MSN doesn't do that.
Trillian also adds history, another great feature so I can see what I was talking to her about the nite before and if i forgot something important she told me to do.
it's not cool hearing "don't you remember me?" every night :-/ I feel like the guy on Memento.
yeah yeah and i'm sure there's some in a warehouse somewhere and etc, but the point remains that out of the xbox360 systems bought by members of that particular forum only 15% has had problems, and remember that 15% would most likely be more vocal than those with working systems because they're too busy playing.
I still say this means the system is relatively stable.
LOL was the article foreshadowing?
"Alarmed, Mr. Holmdahl soon led a team of engineers to China, where he found that certain test equipment was bogging down as production speeded up. Ten hard days of troubleshooting and writing new software ultimately fixed the problem..."
yeah.... my guess is "ten hard days of troubleshooting" is actually 1 hour of explaining "don't bother testing, it'll only effect a few units" and 9 days 23 hrs of Chinese prostitutes.
well, the real number is closer to 0.0001%, but apparently a few people did take a second to go on the forums to brag about their working xbox360 which is why it's only 85%. Think it's Cartman syndrome: got a cool new toy = gotta brag about it.
The people who paid $300+ for a non-working xbox360 have nothing better to do than to bitch about it online so that's where the 15% came from.
Just the fact that it's only 15% means there's very, very few people with broken xbox360s because when shit breaks the first thing the internet community does is bitch about it 24/7. If there was truly a lot of busted xbox360s out there then this number would be 100%.
Yeah right! I got your rainbow punch cards right here.
incase of /., there's blue from Bell Labs, pink from Carnegie Tech, orange from Princeton, and several shades of off-white. Each of them have pretty logos even.
yeah, like ur the expert. Remember, ur on slashdot too.
what's next, gonna ask him to get a gf too??
Welcome to /., where IQ of 130 is average... they should just forget the 90 IQ headhunter and advertise on here :)
you've been around here long enough, you should know that by now.
from TFA:
"He did not say who would build the machine, which will cost $110 to make, but at least five are considering bids to do so. Negroponte said the laptops could become available on the commercial market, but at a higher price."
Like he said, we'll get them, they'll just cost more but... um... so it's going to cost $110 to make, and they're selling them to the countries for $100? Or are the countries paying $110 each, and selling them to... huh? How are these $100 laptops if they cost $110 to make, who's only paying $100? The countries? And he's going to eat $10 per laptop multiplied by 1 million laptops?
i love this though:
"He said they were colored lime green, with a yellow hand crank, to make them appealing to children and to fend off potential thieves."
ohhh.... so if they were Dell black, grey & silver they'd be stolen more right? interesting theory... yeah what man would wanna sit on the subway with a lime green laptop in his lap?
Maybe the commercial versions will be $199 but painted Dell black, grey & silver and have upgradeable flash memory storage?
EXACTLY! I mean, it's not like computers are business tools or anything, they're really just for all-u-can-download porn in ur room...
even on the earliest PCs we had ASCII porn... hmm... maybe these laptops can have ASCII porn... wait, they display photos right? HMMMM... they might be useful after all.
But the real question remains: can you browse with just one hand?
Um, actually I said what I said, that they should support it, like they already do with Windows XP 64.
Without a consumer OS that supports 64-bit what's the point of buying or even selling consumer grade 64-bit processors?
"By making Longhorn run poorly on 512 Mb and a single-core CPU less than 2 ghz... "
wait, we're still talking about windows right?? I dont think MS has to "make" their OS's run poorly, they just do...
well, in the original article that the article links to it says:
"Separately, Microsoft also announced that the Compute Cluster Server and several other upcoming server software releases will work only with 64-bit processors."
They're talking specifically about server software, not really desktop.
In the article the post links to it says:
"company executives detailed its plans to add support 64-bit microprocessors in its server applications and operating systems."
so they're supporting 64 bit in their OS, but not requiring it... least none of the stories said they're requiring it.
I agree, I think it's a mistake to require 64 bit support in desktop OS's in the near future, I mean there's 5 year old processors that run the latest XP just fine so to say 5 yrs from now that most processors made today wont run Windows 2010 (twenty-ten ;) seems to be a pretty serious statement.
Are they trying to kill Intel sales?
that's because somehow we've become some stupid global police force so whenever there's an injustice in the world everyone cries to the US to come save their a$$. It kinda started with WWI and went from there.
Sometimes i just wish we could say "look, i know your people are getting slaughtered by the thousands and it's sad, really, but we're trying to study the properties and behavior of the ionosphere here!" (that's what HAARP does btw)
hey least i tied this into the article, which is more than i can say for most the posts on here...
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Yes, I'm sure you do prefer to surf holding the device in your right hand because it leaves your left hand available for other activities.... ;)
i'm guessing ur ISP isnt AOL then...
yeah, you two are right and all these dictionary's are wrong... maybe you two should get together and write your own reference books.
damn trolls
um... is dental hygiene not important enough for you? Americans spent nearly $68 billion on dental services in 2002.
We'll benefit from it, practically every technology for military use has filtered down to civilian use. Ever heard of the microwave? Cell phone? How about GPS?
If this only cost a few million I think this is money well spent!
Actually, the only idiots we should be ignoring are the ignorant fucks that don't google something to see if they're right before posting wrong information and looking like a dumbass:
The American Heritage® Book of English Usage.
A Practical and Authoritative Guide to Contemporary English. 1996.
3. Word Choice: New Uses, Common Confusion, and Constraints
78. could care less / couldn't care less
"I could care less! you might say sometime in disgust. You might just as easily have said I couldn't care less and meant the same thing! How can this be? When taken literally, the phrase I could care less means "I care more than I might," rather than "I don't care at all." But the beauty of sarcasm is that it can turn meanings on their head, thus allowing could care less to work as an equivalent for couldn't care less. "
what?? Since when?? That directly condradicts this /. article:
"'AMD currently offers the most attractive dual core option. The Athlon 64 X2 3800+ may cost $87 more than its Intel counterpart, the Pentium D 820, but the AMD chip is a much better performer. It also uses considerably less power.'"
Not really, depends on what he would have been doing instead. If he would have been using that time just playing some other game anyway then he has made his money back.
problem with this is that it's completely virtual. The creators of Project Entropia could, at any time, create another, better looking island and cause your island to depreciate, and with no limit to how large this virtual world can be they can make as many islands or space stations or whatever they want forever.
What if the company goes under, does that mean everyone loses their property and value? Basically they have created a way to make their own money, if this is legit I'm shocked google or microsoft hasnt gotten involved yet if people are really paying as much as they claim. This is a huge risk, I'm quite surprised so many people are willing to spend real money on non-existant property that could disappear forever instantly.... unless somehow they earned the money in the game, then it wouldnt seem so much like real money anymore, you're just playing a game...
so this is nothing like the "sales model that gained popularity with downloaded music" then, is it? This is more like videos on demand, where you watch it when you want to watch it and never again.
Too bad really, would be cool to download all the episodes of a particular TV show and watch them from home and before someone says "but that'll kill DVD sales!" ... so? What does a
DVD containing a season of TV shows cost? $30? And how many episodes are in a season? 23? .... um, ok, so they're losing money, but actually they're making more money because I'd imagine it's a little cheaper to distribute via the internet vs retail stores with all the packaging, shipping, retailer profits, etc etc etc.
when will they finally just give people what they want and stop trying to shove crap down our throats? Apple's the only one that figured it out... sometimes I wish Apple would take over the world, it'd be a better place.
You sure? I've had friends that were subs for high schools and I seriously considered it when i was in between jobs, and I don't think I'd mind at all hearing about little cheerleader Amy's hot sexual exploits in the locker room then seeing her in a tight short skirt the next day in class...
Or better yet, reading that she has a crush on a certain teacher and taking advantage of that ;) Maybe they're really worried about teachers and administrators taking advantage of students and then being hit with lawsuits from parents?