"No, that's not what I mean.
YOU are a 'user', and you want everything for free. The people that actually make, produce, and own music actually want to be paid for their work."
didn't you get paid for your work already, or do you believe you're someone who is entitled to be paid over and over for a job done once?
but you know what? i'm digressing. the scam is this: the record industry cannot survive without the giant promotional juggernaut that is free air and streamplay. it has been ever thus. if i need to give you a history lesson on this point you're in the wrong thread, but you convinced congress otherwise and to washington's decade long shame they bought it and gave you a law.
so then, if the people who want to get paid for their "work" depend on free airplay, and they do, don't blame the stations whose playlists are bankrolling "the people that actually make, produce, and own music" if the dj/owners resent that in return for this incredible sales tool - that far outweighs any potential royalty streams - they nevertheless get saddled with additional royalty costs that make it essentially impossible to stream profitably.
i humbly suggest that stations and internet sites stop playing and streaming music entirely until record sales flatline, recording artists go bust and cooler heads prevail. then we can go back to composer-only royalties for airplay and stations can once again make enough money that they don't have to beg listeners for handouts, and most importantly for you, record sales can increase and spoiled artists can once again go back to something resembling normalcy, which basically consists of whining about how crappy labels are for not promoting them enough with radio airplay or stream-throughs like their label mates in heavy rotation who are enjoying such healthy sales no dodgy exchange society could ever make up for it, shutdown notices or jail threats not withstanding.
i mean seriously, listening to grasping artists pine for both airplay and performance royalties is like listening to petty union arguments in the 1950s that performers should paid twice as much for new stereo records because early adopters were listening through two speakers.
the stench of entitlement and the disconnect of certain performers from the realities of the market is never ending and nausea inducing.
lol, you mean in addition to the scam being perpetrated by soundexchange. the amount of collected royalties vs. those distributed to performers is of course lopsided. but we all knew that going in didn't we?
btw, last i looked extraordinary rendition was legal too. depressing yes, but it doesn't make it right or even particularly noteworthy..
nobody should be playing ball w/soundexchange. it's a racket, pure and simple. 40,000 internet radio stations were silenced overnight when these new broadcasting fees, abetted congress, aimed only at and deliberately hobbling internet radio, kicked in a decade ago.
no station is "thriving" today despite claims by se to the contrary, unless they use streaming as a loss leader for other profitable ventures.
between soundexchange and now data caps what could have been a new, exciting and truly democratic broadcasting medium where anyone could stream content to anywhere, has been throttled to near asphyxiation.
internet broadcasters should simply shut down and walk away until congress and the music industry realize that the promotional value of streaming - like ota broadcasting - far outweighs any limited fees that accrue from performance royalties.
Big A la Carte channel fan here and was always irritated cable wouldn't support it. Had never even considered it for individual shows however, but now that NetFlix legitimized that model at the program level I haven't looked back.
So it's streaming to my desktop (soon to be TV), discs by mail for the TV, and 1000s of movies and TV shows ripped to my HD which I stream to a PC or burn and watch on the TV. Local TV weather is now online and local news is available if spotty atm, but I never got into the "eyewitness" thing anyway and don't miss it. Sports, well, never was a fan so that's irrelevent.
All in all I relate to the endless numbers of cable channels like so much excess salt and sugar. Once I cut back I began to dislike foods that were loaded with the stuff, and likewise when I'm visiting someone glued to "The Situation Room" or some other god awful corporate crap my skin crawls.
You can cut off the feed and be healthier for it and still have plenty of video diversions.
I'm about to hit the wall as an unregistered user, in that a pop-up appeared yesterday counting down the articles I have coming before I'm cut-off, but a registered nic of mine, under which I skim incessantly, has had nary a warning. I'm not sure if the roll out is staged and I'll hit that wall with that account too, but so far it's way over any so-called 20 story limit with no end in sight, so they haven't completely lost me as a reader. Yet.
When The Cloud matches my HD-based content serving home cloud I might consider it, but until then it's just so quick, easy and customizable to rip and stream my own stuff than to navigate all the content hosting websites. I do use NetFlix and their so-called instant streaming, but as of yet it's no match for a physical DVD (or ISO of same) quality and feature wise, so much so that I generally grab a torrent for a better viewing experience the next time I watch it, even though I already pay via subscription (which is kind of like TIVOing HBO or something I suppose).
We may be the last ones to relate to shows as physical items, but it'll be a long while I think before no one else does.
I think it was around that time, as stereo sets began moving from the lab to the living room, that the head of the musicians union threw down the gauntlet, demanding double the pay for new recording session, reasoning that each loudspeaker was a separate performance deserving of a separate fee. He wouldn't budge either, until a clever record company exec explained that listeners would want new stereo versions of their mono favorites, leading to a huge increase in session work and paychecks to match for union musicians re-recording the old hits. Crisis averted.
I was on it all day every day last week, logged in and not, and hadn't. Maybe they're rolling it out slowly. If not I'm fairly certain they didn't get their money's worth.
John Aristotle Phillips tried this 35 years ago. He toured college towns giving lectures shadowed by pro-nuke goons. I saw him once, and the goons. He was quite the nervous fellow.
...especially, to the nuclear power promoters, industry shills, sycophants and other pro-nuke hacks whose tireless solicitations on behalf of plants that are "safer than everything" put these workers there to begin with.
Lunching in Washington, submitting op-ed pieces, cashing checks, cozy at home posting on reddit and slashdot, they're the real heroes.
In a one-man one-vote democracy where people increasingly believe their ignorance matches your knowledge, religion and politics rule our new language masters.
Someone is angry over something, like taxes and how unfair they are. After losing the car house and spouse he finds himself in a shrinking world of local libraries, back issues of Reader's Digest and obscure self published screeds. He is becoming in other words a crackpot.
A concept is born: taxes are illegal! Eureka. Our man spreads the world and watches as it seduces the powerless.
A movement is born....
So it is with this new conservative "Republic" movement. Based on politics and radical Christianity, it has led to redefining not only who we are but most importantly where we're going. But that's not enough. What we're seeing is the indoctrination by fiat of youth, in new laws like this one in Utah.
This is the new political correctness. Ugly, strident and gaining in power. Your children will major in ignorance, get worthless degrees and good luck to them (and you) if they resist.
Slashdot Mirror
You reach your destination, but alas & alack
You need some compensation to get back in the black
You take the morning paper from the top of the stack
And read the situation from the front to the back
The only job that's open needs a man with a knack
So put it right back in the rack, Jack
Amen. Nothing beats perusing physical media.
sure apple. i lol'd.
Whilst I was admiring the gentle sway of her shapely derriere somebody stole my laptop!
"No, that's not what I mean. YOU are a 'user', and you want everything for free. The people that actually make, produce, and own music actually want to be paid for their work."
didn't you get paid for your work already, or do you believe you're someone who is entitled to be paid over and over for a job done once?
but you know what? i'm digressing. the scam is this: the record industry cannot survive without the giant promotional juggernaut that is free air and streamplay. it has been ever thus. if i need to give you a history lesson on this point you're in the wrong thread, but you convinced congress otherwise and to washington's decade long shame they bought it and gave you a law.
so then, if the people who want to get paid for their "work" depend on free airplay, and they do, don't blame the stations whose playlists are bankrolling "the people that actually make, produce, and own music" if the dj/owners resent that in return for this incredible sales tool - that far outweighs any potential royalty streams - they nevertheless get saddled with additional royalty costs that make it essentially impossible to stream profitably.
i humbly suggest that stations and internet sites stop playing and streaming music entirely until record sales flatline, recording artists go bust and cooler heads prevail. then we can go back to composer-only royalties for airplay and stations can once again make enough money that they don't have to beg listeners for handouts, and most importantly for you, record sales can increase and spoiled artists can once again go back to something resembling normalcy, which basically consists of whining about how crappy labels are for not promoting them enough with radio airplay or stream-throughs like their label mates in heavy rotation who are enjoying such healthy sales no dodgy exchange society could ever make up for it, shutdown notices or jail threats not withstanding.
i mean seriously, listening to grasping artists pine for both airplay and performance royalties is like listening to petty union arguments in the 1950s that performers should paid twice as much for new stereo records because early adopters were listening through two speakers.
the stench of entitlement and the disconnect of certain performers from the realities of the market is never ending and nausea inducing.
- js.
lol, you mean in addition to the scam being perpetrated by soundexchange. the amount of collected royalties vs. those distributed to performers is of course lopsided. but we all knew that going in didn't we?
btw, last i looked extraordinary rendition was legal too. depressing yes, but it doesn't make it right or even particularly noteworthy. .
- js.
nobody should be playing ball w/soundexchange. it's a racket, pure and simple. 40,000 internet radio stations were silenced overnight when these new broadcasting fees, abetted congress, aimed only at and deliberately hobbling internet radio, kicked in a decade ago.
no station is "thriving" today despite claims by se to the contrary, unless they use streaming as a loss leader for other profitable ventures.
between soundexchange and now data caps what could have been a new, exciting and truly democratic broadcasting medium where anyone could stream content to anywhere, has been throttled to near asphyxiation.
internet broadcasters should simply shut down and walk away until congress and the music industry realize that the promotional value of streaming - like ota broadcasting - far outweighs any limited fees that accrue from performance royalties.
- js.
lol. soundexchange is the fraudulent operation, albeit one abetted by congress.
Big A la Carte channel fan here and was always irritated cable wouldn't support it. Had never even considered it for individual shows however, but now that NetFlix legitimized that model at the program level I haven't looked back.
So it's streaming to my desktop (soon to be TV), discs by mail for the TV, and 1000s of movies and TV shows ripped to my HD which I stream to a PC or burn and watch on the TV. Local TV weather is now online and local news is available if spotty atm, but I never got into the "eyewitness" thing anyway and don't miss it. Sports, well, never was a fan so that's irrelevent.
All in all I relate to the endless numbers of cable channels like so much excess salt and sugar. Once I cut back I began to dislike foods that were loaded with the stuff, and likewise when I'm visiting someone glued to "The Situation Room" or some other god awful corporate crap my skin crawls.
You can cut off the feed and be healthier for it and still have plenty of video diversions.
- js.
I'm about to hit the wall as an unregistered user, in that a pop-up appeared yesterday counting down the articles I have coming before I'm cut-off, but a registered nic of mine, under which I skim incessantly, has had nary a warning. I'm not sure if the roll out is staged and I'll hit that wall with that account too, but so far it's way over any so-called 20 story limit with no end in sight, so they haven't completely lost me as a reader. Yet.
- js.
are using Ad-Block. Or soon will be.
they understand it enough to get away from it.
When The Cloud matches my HD-based content serving home cloud I might consider it, but until then it's just so quick, easy and customizable to rip and stream my own stuff than to navigate all the content hosting websites. I do use NetFlix and their so-called instant streaming, but as of yet it's no match for a physical DVD (or ISO of same) quality and feature wise, so much so that I generally grab a torrent for a better viewing experience the next time I watch it, even though I already pay via subscription (which is kind of like TIVOing HBO or something I suppose).
We may be the last ones to relate to shows as physical items, but it'll be a long while I think before no one else does.
I think it was around that time, as stereo sets began moving from the lab to the living room, that the head of the musicians union threw down the gauntlet, demanding double the pay for new recording session, reasoning that each loudspeaker was a separate performance deserving of a separate fee. He wouldn't budge either, until a clever record company exec explained that listeners would want new stereo versions of their mono favorites, leading to a huge increase in session work and paychecks to match for union musicians re-recording the old hits. Crisis averted.
I was on it all day every day last week, logged in and not, and hadn't. Maybe they're rolling it out slowly. If not I'm fairly certain they didn't get their money's worth.
"If that's Carlos Slim on the line we're not in!"
- js.
There are those circles (like mine) where such messages lead to high compliments.
John Aristotle Phillips tried this 35 years ago. He toured college towns giving lectures shadowed by pro-nuke goons. I saw him once, and the goons. He was quite the nervous fellow.
Even Godzilla is a little nervous around that one.
don't do it!
160,000 three mile islands you mean.
it's now 10% of chernobyl, but hey, who's counting? this is slashdot. we're just denying.
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/30/world/asia/30japan.html
nuclear power: it's safer than ponies.
loved that book and have been waiting for them since.
Gizmag said so. http://www.gizmag.com/lithium-ion-battery-breakthrough-mit/11244/
...especially, to the nuclear power promoters, industry shills, sycophants and other pro-nuke hacks whose tireless solicitations on behalf of plants that are "safer than everything" put these workers there to begin with.
Lunching in Washington, submitting op-ed pieces, cashing checks, cozy at home posting on reddit and slashdot, they're the real heroes.
Let's hear it for them!
- js.
He's right of course, as usual. After the Fukushima Daiichi event, everyone will want one in their neighborhood.
Someone should ask the meteorites how they feel about that.
In a one-man one-vote democracy where people increasingly believe their ignorance matches your knowledge, religion and politics rule our new language masters.
Someone is angry over something, like taxes and how unfair they are. After losing the car house and spouse he finds himself in a shrinking world of local libraries, back issues of Reader's Digest and obscure self published screeds. He is becoming in other words a crackpot.
A concept is born: taxes are illegal! Eureka. Our man spreads the world and watches as it seduces the powerless.
A movement is born....
So it is with this new conservative "Republic" movement. Based on politics and radical Christianity, it has led to redefining not only who we are but most importantly where we're going. But that's not enough. What we're seeing is the indoctrination by fiat of youth, in new laws like this one in Utah.
This is the new political correctness. Ugly, strident and gaining in power. Your children will major in ignorance, get worthless degrees and good luck to them (and you) if they resist.
- js.