As for the "SuSE worm" remark, I was more referring to the fact that the different versions of distributions come with particular versions of packages, eg. Redhat 9 comes by default with a version of bind, or whatever.
I'm well aware that software isn't distribution-specific, I'm saying that lazy people aren't going to upgrade. If a particular distro hits critical mass and becomes overwhelmingly popular in comparison to the other distros, then large groups of lazy users are going to have the same version of a particular software package, thus leading to the same sort of problems that people have had with, for example, Windows XP. (Definitely not on such a large scale, though, even if Linux becomes the domininant OS, due to a smaller subset of Linux users having the same version of the package.)
I'm not trying to take potshots at the quality of OSS at all, frankly I believe that the major OSS projects are likely to be more secure than Microsoft's offerings. I'm just saying that at some point in the future that, if one of the distributions becomes dominant, there will most likely be at least _one_ slip that could lead to a Linux worm of sorts, even if it is restricted to a particular version of a package.
Sure, it'll be patched quickly, but then we'll still have the same problem with lazy users not updating.
As much as I'm a Linux fanboy, that's not going to solve the problem.
Setting aside the debatable 'inherently more secure' argument, unless distros start doing something rash like including and starting an 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' cron job, they're going to hit the same problems if a nasty worm comes out that affects on or more distributions of Linux (eg. a SuSE worm, etc).
But you just _know_ that the designers will make it buzzword compliant and have the settings stored in platform-independant, open-source-enabled, synergistically-compliant XML, and the process have the settings for one DVD take up half a meg.
Besides, I never trust Adblockers: they too often (read: more than zero times) throw out the baby with the bathwater. With an adblocker, you would never see any photos from my local newspaper.
Considering the Adblock plugin for Firefox supports wildcards, it's damn easy to block, say, http://dinkynewspaper.com/images/ad*, or however it's set up.
I'm hoping they'll put in regex support, if it isn't in there already.
It's the same with any standard, though. The only difference between HTML and the other standards is that there is a single "popular" implementation of it, implemented by a company that doesn't appear to have terribly high moral standards (see DR-DOS, Lotus, etc).
If, say, Microsoft had decided to munge the TCP protocol (ignore the whole BSD thing for a moment, this is hypothetical), we'd have the same problems, and likely two versions of TCP: the Microsoft one, the other the "Standards Compliant" one. Instead of web developers working around the differences between the standards, we'd instead have the developers of the different Operating Systems working around them instead.
How many people do you know still play DOS games? After 10 years support for the API's and the old hardware disappears. Realisticly most people dont want to put up with the issues of playing older games, so if steam disapears most people wont care.
The 'attack' would mean that the sites doing the redirecting would end up stealing the RIAA's ranking , rather the other way around like you seem to think.
Who cares? It's Linux, you can do whatever the hell you want! Who says that people can't use Dropline even if it does go against some arbitrarily-decided 'ideas'?
For crying out loud, guys, it's not doing anyone any good if you fill your analysis with bias. You could've easily dropped the throwaway, biased lines such as that last one in your post. You sound like Michael for fuck's sake.
As for that list, it's fine, but leave off the OSS-specific items:
> - Secure terminal emulation such as secure shell
(Yeah, I know, not OSS-specific. Generally included as an advantage of Linux/*BSD, though.) This can easily be included under your Remote Admin item - not everyone thinks that having a console is a BONUS$!!1, some people are quite happy to admin their machines using a GUI. (Yes, yes, I know it's inefficient, I love the terminal myself, but try to see it from other viewpoints.)
> - DNS, LDAP, sendmail and other servers included 0 best of all they even work with Windows.
Leave that item at just DNS, LDAP, and Mail servers. You don't need to name specific software if you're just listing the functionality of the required items.
> - Open Office
Same as above. Just listing Office software or something general is sufficient. It's like someone from the other camp drawing up a big list of requirements and putting 'MS Office' on it instead of a more general item that covers other office productivity software.
In short, drop the bias. Don't exclude all the little extra narky asides that don't do anything other than making you seem like a twit. Doing so will probably make you look like you have some sort of clue, rather than j-random-unwashed-fanb0y!!1LOL.
"The soldiers with the hard white hats a clubs. The girls were crying. 'Did we do anything wrong?' they said. The men said no and pushed them away out the door with the ends of their clubs. 'Then why are you chasing us out?' the girls said. 'Catch-22,' the men said. 'What right do you have?' the girls said. 'Catch-22,' the men said. All they kept saying was 'Catch-22, Catch-22.' What does it mean, Catch-22? What is Catch-22?"
"Didn't they show it to you?" Yossarian demanded, stamping about in ager and distress. "Didn't you even make them read it?"
"They don't have to show us Catch-22," the old woman answered. "The law says they don't have to."
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Ubuntu, SuSE, MEPIS, maybe Mandrake if you're feeling lucky.
Any many more which the posters below will no doubt convince you to try.
As for the "SuSE worm" remark, I was more referring to the fact that the different versions of distributions come with particular versions of packages, eg. Redhat 9 comes by default with a version of bind, or whatever.
I'm well aware that software isn't distribution-specific, I'm saying that lazy people aren't going to upgrade. If a particular distro hits critical mass and becomes overwhelmingly popular in comparison to the other distros, then large groups of lazy users are going to have the same version of a particular software package, thus leading to the same sort of problems that people have had with, for example, Windows XP. (Definitely not on such a large scale, though, even if Linux becomes the domininant OS, due to a smaller subset of Linux users having the same version of the package.)
I'm not trying to take potshots at the quality of OSS at all, frankly I believe that the major OSS projects are likely to be more secure than Microsoft's offerings. I'm just saying that at some point in the future that, if one of the distributions becomes dominant, there will most likely be at least _one_ slip that could lead to a Linux worm of sorts, even if it is restricted to a particular version of a package.
Sure, it'll be patched quickly, but then we'll still have the same problem with lazy users not updating.
As much as I'm a Linux fanboy, that's not going to solve the problem.
Setting aside the debatable 'inherently more secure' argument, unless distros start doing something rash like including and starting an 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' cron job, they're going to hit the same problems if a nasty worm comes out that affects on or more distributions of Linux (eg. a SuSE worm, etc).
Nope, not without 3rd-party stuff like another poster pointed out. 3.11 supported it, however.
Unless you get a lot of legit mail with "random graphical elements scattered in the middle of words", ...
MSN or Yahoo smileys in one of those flashy HTML emails? :P
(It's probably fortunate, though, as I usually toss them out as spam anyway.)
"Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. ..."
:P
Yeah, yeah, offtopic.
http://www.keelynet.com/humor/meat.htm
But you just _know_ that the designers will make it buzzword compliant and have the settings stored in platform-independant, open-source-enabled, synergistically-compliant XML, and the process have the settings for one DVD take up half a meg.
Besides, I never trust Adblockers: they too often (read: more than zero times) throw out the baby with the bathwater. With an adblocker, you would never see any photos from my local newspaper.
Considering the Adblock plugin for Firefox supports wildcards, it's damn easy to block, say, http://dinkynewspaper.com/images/ad*, or however it's set up.
I'm hoping they'll put in regex support, if it isn't in there already.
http://www.terrybisson.com/meat.html
(I'm joking, but I thought it would be appropriate. :P)
It's the same with any standard, though. The only difference between HTML and the other standards is that there is a single "popular" implementation of it, implemented by a company that doesn't appear to have terribly high moral standards (see DR-DOS, Lotus, etc).
If, say, Microsoft had decided to munge the TCP protocol (ignore the whole BSD thing for a moment, this is hypothetical), we'd have the same problems, and likely two versions of TCP: the Microsoft one, the other the "Standards Compliant" one. Instead of web developers working around the differences between the standards, we'd instead have the developers of the different Operating Systems working around them instead.
How many people do you know still play DOS games? After 10 years support for the API's and the old hardware disappears. Realisticly most people dont want to put up with the issues of playing older games, so if steam disapears most people wont care.
http://dosbox.sourceforge.net
HAND. HTH.
> A cuckoo egg being a file you think is one thing, but it actually turns out to be something else.
No need to invent new terms. The word you're looking for is 'trojan'.
An example being the trojan that made the rounds about 10 years ago, masquerading as a new version of pkzip, amongst countless other examples.
You mean 'irregardless' is now correct?
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=143549&cid=120 33145.
By the very same person, no less.
The 'attack' would mean that the sites doing the redirecting would end up stealing the RIAA's ranking , rather the other way around like you seem to think.
Your incorrect usage of the word sane is driving me insain.
You're meant to take references, rather than pass them, eg. the following takes $a by reference.
Yes.
About six hours. IBM Thinkpad R40. No extra battery (not that the model can handle it or anything).
But is it work-safe? :P
She has her left elbow close to her waist, and has her left hand turned outwards, you twit.
This perhaps? :P
Who cares? It's Linux, you can do whatever the hell you want! Who says that people can't use Dropline even if it does go against some arbitrarily-decided 'ideas'?
For crying out loud, guys, it's not doing anyone any good if you fill your analysis with bias. You could've easily dropped the throwaway, biased lines such as that last one in your post. You sound like Michael for fuck's sake.
As for that list, it's fine, but leave off the OSS-specific items:
> - Secure terminal emulation such as secure shell
(Yeah, I know, not OSS-specific. Generally included as an advantage of Linux/*BSD, though.)
This can easily be included under your Remote Admin item - not everyone thinks that having a console is a BONUS$!!1, some people are quite happy to admin their machines using a GUI.
(Yes, yes, I know it's inefficient, I love the terminal myself, but try to see it from other viewpoints.)
> - DNS, LDAP, sendmail and other servers included 0 best of all they even work with Windows.
Leave that item at just DNS, LDAP, and Mail servers. You don't need to name specific software if you're just listing the functionality of the required items.
> - Open Office
Same as above. Just listing Office software or something general is sufficient. It's like someone from the other camp drawing up a big list of requirements and putting 'MS Office' on it instead of a more general item that covers other office productivity software.
In short, drop the bias. Don't exclude all the little extra narky asides that don't do anything other than making you seem like a twit. Doing so will probably make you look like you have some sort of clue, rather than j-random-unwashed-fanb0y!!1LOL.
Rob Howard
Is the "?" some kind of joke about the way Australians turn everything they say into a question by going up in tone at the end of every sentence?
Don't worry, a lot of us Australians find it annoying too. I feel like throwing bricks at people who speak like that. :P
"The soldiers with the hard white hats a clubs. The girls were crying. 'Did we do anything wrong?' they said. The men said no and pushed them away out the door with the ends of their clubs. 'Then why are you chasing us out?' the girls said. 'Catch-22,' the men said. 'What right do you have?' the girls said. 'Catch-22,' the men said. All they kept saying was 'Catch-22, Catch-22.' What does it mean, Catch-22? What is Catch-22?"
"Didn't they show it to you?" Yossarian demanded, stamping about in ager and distress. "Didn't you even make them read it?"
"They don't have to show us Catch-22," the old woman answered. "The law says they don't have to."