Why the fsck are these guys pushin only usb if the tech is already there to do ether?
Do I dare call it a microsoft conspiracy?
I just don't get it. Why would any company spend $s in development money for usb drivers when they could deploy a known technology that is widly deployed and supported by everything. It just does not make sense.
OK I see the point now but the arguement escapes me. I thank god that all my windows are not re-arranged when I change resolutions. Now if we could change resolutions and have the server remember where we put all our windows for EVERY resolution there may be an arguement here, but neither Macs nor winders handle resolution switching this gracefully. Winders drives me nuts when you switch resolutions and lose the ability to click on a button or move a window. That degrades my user experience. Personally I find the way X handles the resolution switching enhances my U.I. experience, certainly more than any other OS.
Your desktop and all applications aren't aware of any change (like they would be in MS Windows...
winders itself is not even aware of the change. Did you ever lose the ability to close the resolution control panel window after changing resolutions? That just ain't right!
I have to agree, do a "ps aux" and take a gander of whats running when you run gnome.
I'd like to take this opportunity to plug windowmaker here;-)
I'm not trying to put down gnome here, some people love it, hey if it works for you cool.
This is what makes x cool, you run gnome I run wmaker and we can do it on the same machine running the same apps, at the same time if we get trickey and have the horse power.
Are we not changing resolutions when you "ctrl, alt, keypad +|-??????
Certainly seems to work for me considering the resolutions that you want to jump to need to be in the XF86Config-4 file. I dont need to restart the x server after a resolution change.
Winders peoples mouths drop open when I switch from 1200x1600 to 640x480 to check out a small image on a web page, with 3 key strokes, and then match the resolution close to the size of the pic.
Return to Castle Wolfenstein filps to the res its set for. other games do the same bzflag for instance.
Am I missing something here?
I find X to be extremely flexible, yes there is some learning curve if you want/need to tweak it, but I see no real limitations.
Up here in upstate NY not to be confused with NYC, many towns turn collected yard debris into compost for the taking.
You can not match the quality of real compost for gardening. Personally I can not make enough of the stuff. I need to supplement with bags of composted manure. This stuff, while it works, does not contain the variety of trace elements and organic composition that helps soil work better. Topsoil is by no means compost.
As for the eye-sore deal beauty is in the eye of the beholder, the least offensive that I have seen is a simple bin made lincoln log style stacked up 3 feet or so, you could make it out of cedar 2x4s if you wanted to. Personally mine is just a pile of stuff Beauty is the black stuff that comes out.
If you don't like it get the fsck out. Read what you want to read and skip what you don't. This is far better than the B.S. redhat shell nonsense that went out a few days ago. If you want to you might actually learn something new. Why do people participate in threads they don't freakin care about? BTW I totally agree with you on the visa stuff.
Lets not forget the beneficial nematodes, insect warfare and the green manures. There is definitely some sort of strange parallel to the computer code/networking worlds in this. I think it may have to to with the infinite intricate relationships that coexist in a certain space.
The Ballot machines used in Brazil use a floppy for storage somewhere in the process. This is certainly as safe as using a pencil. right?;-)
Lets see, windows CE, floppy disks and dialup connections, three of the most reliable things in the world today. I see no problem trusting the results of national elections with all this modern technology in place.
Yes, the US should take a que from brazil and implement;-)
I dont mean to trash this software, no pun intentended,but seriously I personally have not found the lack of a trash can a problem. If it works for you then fantastic.
I think the problem lies more in the fact that most people really don't know how computers really work and microsoft pushes user stupidity.
Why is it winders users can learn all these arcane command key combos, software patch maddness, and deal with the total lack of a simple directory/drive structure and yet the logic of the recycle bin stumps them?
What really scares me is microsofts invasion on the school systems. Kids learning all about computers on an asinine OS and think that it is normal.
What linux really needs is a file browser, I shudder every time I have to build tkdesk on a new system and love it when I get it working.
Put an ibm eraser mouse and three buttons and I'm sold. The touch pad is by far the worst input device on the market today. Apple puts the best ones on their machines they still stink.
I also having personal problems with the ibm thinkpad Microsoft tax, Why can't I buy one without an OS?
Linux is the shiniest toy of all. Its like the cardboard box at christmas that the children have the most fun with, because it has endless possibilities if you use your imagination.
I have had nothing but good luck with matrox and linux. I was running open gl with glx at first, then moved to DRI, which has now been integrated into the kernel, it has been getting easier and easier. Also matrox does provide a support forum specifically for linux which has helped me with more then one issue. You may scoff at the binary only drivers that matrox releases, however they are easy to install and provide some nice tools, to make configuration easier. What other manufacturer of video supports linux to this extent?
Return to castle wolfenstein on a two plus year old card (g400max) with reasonable framerates, I'm ok with that and am looking forward to a new matrox.
Personally I'm not on the hardware upgrade path to enlightenment. I run Return to Castle Wolfenstein with no problems. In fact I have no issues with most other software. Its only a web browser. Like I said before "dual celery 500s, 512MB ram, custom kernel, X4.2.0, Xfree screams BTW. Now a 30% increase over.9.9, I'm downloading now! ummm.. I wonder if I can get the spellcheck working this time around.
Yea I found Moz is getting faster too. I currently have.9.9 for moz and netscape 6 as well. I find them both dog slow compared to netscape 4.79. My system is reasonably speedy, dual celery 500s and 512MB ram X4.2.0, custom kernels, it books on most everything else. I don't understand the slowdown with the latest browsers.
Hopefully Apple won't kill the elegance of the NeXT tools. NeXT is probably the most intuitive OS ever. Even more intuitive to use than a mac. The windirification of the macintosh disturbs me. Apple does not need to copy to compete. Ease of use seems to have taken a back seat.
Gasoline is not the most behaved fuel either but we use it every day. We have figured out how to store flammable gas at least last time I looked the hot dog outside my window is still there pumping natural gas into my house. Is Hydrogen that much harder to store? Hmmm.. I wish I could fill that sucker up with Hydrogen that I produced from my Hydrogen producing algae pond in my back yard. If this deal floats, it sounds easier than building a methane digester, adding a lot of manure to it once a month and stirring it up when production is low. The key here seems to be keeping the algae alive by giving them access to sulfur when they need it and then reverting back to a no sulfur growth medium when they have regenerated. This is the coolest thing since I discovered methanogens, I hope they open source this bugger;-)
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risc based dells?
you got to be shitin me!
Why the fsck are these guys pushin only usb if the tech is already there to do ether?
Do I dare call it a microsoft conspiracy?
I just don't get it. Why would any company spend $s in development money for usb drivers when they could deploy a known technology that is widly deployed and supported by everything. It just does not make sense.
thanks for that ether tidbit;-)
OK I see the point now but the arguement escapes me. I thank god that all my windows are not re-arranged when I change resolutions. Now if we could change resolutions and have the server remember where we put all our windows for EVERY resolution there may be an arguement here, but neither Macs nor winders handle resolution switching this gracefully. Winders drives me nuts when you switch resolutions and lose the ability to click on a button or move a window. That degrades my user experience. Personally I find the way X handles the resolution switching enhances my U.I. experience, certainly more than any other OS.
Your desktop and all applications aren't aware of any change (like they would be in MS Windows...
winders itself is not even aware of the change. Did you ever lose the ability to close the resolution control panel window after changing resolutions? That just ain't right!
As long as its the widget set I like and the window manager that I run, I'm OK with that;-)
Why would you limit your own posibilities?
Freakin X is not what you see on the bloody screen. It is not gnome, kde or any other gui.
It allows programs to be gui and what they do with it is up to them.
an example xinitrc- notice window manager commented outRTFM
I have to agree, do a "ps aux" and take a gander of whats running when you run gnome.
I'd like to take this opportunity to plug windowmaker here;-)
I'm not trying to put down gnome here, some people love it, hey if it works for you cool.
This is what makes x cool, you run gnome I run wmaker and we can do it on the same machine running the same apps, at the same time if we get trickey and have the horse power.
X runs pretty damn fast on my dual celery 500
Are we not changing resolutions when you "ctrl, alt, keypad +|-??????
Certainly seems to work for me considering the resolutions that you want to jump to need to be in the XF86Config-4 file. I dont need to restart the x server after a resolution change.
Winders peoples mouths drop open when I switch from 1200x1600 to 640x480 to check out a small image on a web page, with 3 key strokes, and then match the resolution close to the size of the pic.
Return to Castle Wolfenstein filps to the res its set for. other games do the same bzflag for instance.
Am I missing something here?
I find X to be extremely flexible, yes there is some learning curve if you want/need to tweak it, but I see no real limitations.
Yea and when you lose that high paying it job you can sell worms;-)
you don't have to do anything to it. It just takes longer if you don't mix it up and put in the right stuff, considerably longer in fact.
Up here in upstate NY not to be confused with NYC, many towns turn collected yard debris into compost for the taking.
You can not match the quality of real compost for gardening. Personally I can not make enough of the stuff. I need to supplement with bags of composted manure. This stuff, while it works, does not contain the variety of trace elements and organic composition that helps soil work better. Topsoil is by no means compost.
As for the eye-sore deal beauty is in the eye of the beholder, the least offensive that I have seen is a simple bin made lincoln log style stacked up 3 feet or so, you could make it out of cedar 2x4s if you wanted to. Personally mine is just a pile of stuff Beauty is the black stuff that comes out.
compost happens
If you don't like it get the fsck out. Read what you want to read and skip what you don't. This is far better than the B.S. redhat shell nonsense that went out a few days ago. If you want to you might actually learn something new. Why do people participate in threads they don't freakin care about? BTW I totally agree with you on the visa stuff.
Lets not forget the beneficial nematodes, insect warfare and the green manures. There is definitely some sort of strange parallel to the computer code/networking worlds in this. I think it may have to to with the infinite intricate relationships that coexist in a certain space.
$550 sounds like a fair price to avoid the fsckin x86 bios bullshit.
"Take a look at the code GCC produces sometime... it's not pretty."
works for me;-)
The Ballot machines used in Brazil use a floppy for storage somewhere in the process. This is certainly as safe as using a pencil. right? ;-)
Lets see, windows CE, floppy disks and dialup connections, three of the most reliable things in the world today. I see no problem trusting the results of national elections with all this modern technology in place.
Yes, the US should take a que from brazil and implement;-)
Ah theres nothing like the smell of selenium in the morning;-)
I dont mean to trash this software, no pun intentended,but seriously I personally have not found the lack of a trash can a problem. If it works for you then fantastic.
I think the problem lies more in the fact that most people really don't know how computers really work and microsoft pushes user stupidity.
Why is it winders users can learn all these arcane command key combos, software patch maddness, and deal with the total lack of a simple directory/drive structure and yet the logic of the recycle bin stumps them?
What really scares me is microsofts invasion on the school systems. Kids learning all about computers on an asinine OS and think that it is normal.
What linux really needs is a file browser, I shudder every time I have to build tkdesk on a new system and love it when I get it working.
hmmm..
lets see
mkdir ~/trash
mv file.i.want.to.trash.but.may.want.later ~/trash
rm -fr ~/trash/*
blamo a linux recycle bin
lets get a little sicker now and script the deal
#!/bin/sh
#move stuff to trash
#filename trashit
mv $1 ~/trash
#!/bin/sh
#empty the trash
#filename emptyit
echo 'This command will remove the entire contents of your trash can
Are you sure you want to do this?Y/N[N]
'
#commands missing because I dont feel like #actually writing this and debugging this at this #point in time
rm -fr ~/trash/*
Put an ibm eraser mouse and three buttons and I'm sold. The touch pad is by far the worst input device on the market today. Apple puts the best ones on their machines they still stink.
I also having personal problems with the ibm thinkpad Microsoft tax, Why can't I buy one without an OS?
decisions decisions decisions
I disagree,
Linux is the shiniest toy of all. Its like the cardboard box at christmas that the children have the most fun with, because it has endless possibilities if you use your imagination.
I have had nothing but good luck with matrox and linux. I was running open gl with glx at first, then moved to DRI, which has now been integrated into the kernel, it has been getting easier and easier. Also matrox does provide a support forum specifically for linux which has helped me with more then one issue. You may scoff at the binary only drivers that matrox releases, however they are easy to install and provide some nice tools, to make configuration easier. What other manufacturer of video supports linux to this extent?
Return to castle wolfenstein on a two plus year old card (g400max) with reasonable framerates, I'm ok with that and am looking forward to a new matrox.
Personally I'm not on the hardware upgrade path to enlightenment. I run Return to Castle Wolfenstein with no problems. In fact I have no issues with most other software. Its only a web browser. Like I said before "dual celery 500s, 512MB ram, custom kernel, X4.2.0, Xfree screams BTW. Now a 30% increase over .9.9, I'm downloading now! ummm.. I wonder if I can get the spellcheck working this time around.
Yea I found Moz is getting faster too. I currently have .9.9 for moz and netscape 6 as well. I find them both dog slow compared to netscape 4.79. My system is reasonably speedy, dual celery 500s and 512MB ram X4.2.0, custom kernels, it books on most everything else. I don't understand the slowdown with the latest browsers.
Does anyone else but me find mozilla, or netscape 6 for that matter, painfully slow? I'll try moz again in 6 months.
Hopefully Apple won't kill the elegance of the NeXT tools. NeXT is probably the most intuitive OS ever. Even more intuitive to use than a mac. The windirification of the macintosh disturbs me. Apple does not need to copy to compete. Ease of use seems to have taken a back seat.
Gasoline is not the most behaved fuel either but we use it every day. We have figured out how to store flammable gas at least last time I looked the hot dog outside my window is still there pumping natural gas into my house. Is Hydrogen that much harder to store? Hmmm.. I wish I could fill that sucker up with Hydrogen that I produced from my Hydrogen producing algae pond in my back yard. If this deal floats, it sounds easier than building a methane digester, adding a lot of manure to it once a month and stirring it up when production is low. The key here seems to be keeping the algae alive by giving them access to sulfur when they need it and then reverting back to a no sulfur growth medium when they have regenerated. This is the coolest thing since I discovered methanogens, I hope they open source this bugger;-)