This would be funny if they were not going to debate and try to implement this with public money.
It also assumes that most people read the EULA and other text when instaling, as opposed to Next,Next,Next,Next,...Finish!
On the plus side it does stop them doing anything more dangerous or stupid. It infact is a good distraction for the ".gov".
Does anyone think that at the end we will have enough law to not need anymore?
1- Funny very funny. 2- You are probably going bust because you threaten your customers and then throw them out of the store. 3- You are probably going bust because you sell family/christian rock. 4- You have to change with the times. Do not cry and blame others for your failure. 5- Tell me you have never photocopied anthing that was copyright. 6- Like it or not the law is not about being fair, the law is about accepted behavoiur. If everybody does something then it is not going to be illegal for too long. In europe at least we have a tradition of civil disobediance. When Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher brought in a poll tax (each person pays the same amount regardless of income) there were riots, people smashed things up and many millions of people refused to pay. The result the government took them to court one by one, each person had their lawyer stall and waste time. The result the government gave up. 7- There is no way that there is anywhere like 15 EUR/USD worth of music on a CD. It takes a bunch of artists and a recording stuidio to make an album. The publicity / promotion / hype is all shit. If the record companies focused on the music and not on hype then maybe the prices would go down and people would buy more. 8- Nobody seems to complain that I can record music from the radio. 9- The record companies have been consistenly been found price fixing. It is very hypocritical of them to now start to complain about the law being broken. 10- I for one would be so traumatised by being blacklisted from all record shops. Please dont... boo hoo hoo. 11- I download things because I cannot get them any other way. The selection in a record shop is soo small. Try and find a old verion of Derek and Clive in a shop. 12- There are less book piracies because people like to read books in strange places and not infornt of a screen. 13- You are on drugs if you think the war on drugs is working. The US locks up more of its population than any other. 14- How will your blacklist system work?.... Hi Id like to buy this album please!.... Sure thing sir , can I see some form of ID please?.
Just to let people know that initialy there were problems for many users who had ISPs with transparent proxies and people being unable to get bittorrent to download the iso's. Lots of complaints on the mandrakeclub about this. This has since been resolved by mandrake and works fine.
I have got to say that I now love bittorrent.
In this case, if I watch this site could I be a pedophile?
Yes you would. Under your law (depending on where you live) the 16 year old would not have been able to consent.
Could the webmaster arrested for pedophilia?
No again (depending on where it is hosted) the webmaster did not commit a crime.
I agree whith you that a "local law on a global network doesn't just work at all" but each to his own.
The problem you are highlighting is one of customs between different cultures.... In England I can smoke, join the army, get married and move out at 16 but I cant vote or drink until 18. In most states of the US you cant drink until 21. In Portugal you can drink at 16.
This is the idea behind the formation of http://www.havenco.com/ where webhosting is not within the legal control of any country.
Nobody in Congress or the House of Reps comaplains about ofshore bank accounts, where all their freinds hide their money. Nobody complains when big companies move their headquarters to some small taxhaven island in the carribean. How is that any different? Want to avoid the laws of one country.... simple move your activities to another!
To take the arugment then playing Pacman would have me running round a dark room, filled with loud repetitive music and eating as many pills as I could find......er whoops!
You are talking utter crap. Who do you need missiles for? The US, Russia, UK and France all have more than enough for everybody. Who are you going to attack?
North Korea..... is a joke. The reason that they have/are developing them is because we have them. They are trying to get a deterent.
Let me remind you that 9/11 was done with civilian airliners. Most terrorist bombs are fertilizer.
On another point. Why does everybody blame the scientists. It it the politicians and the generals that drop the bombs. Morality has nothing to do with science.... if it was proved that Issac Newton molested children or Albert Einstein was an axe murderer this detracts nothing from their work. The priciples and laws of nature have nothing to do with morality. Have you ever met an evil equation? Ever seen a good chemical reaction?
Just remember that (in the west) you get who you vote for. Dont give me the crap that you dont have enough choice. Stand yourself is you have to! Remember that it is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for something you dont and to get it! Never forget that Adolf Hitler was voted on to power in democratic elections, only then did he seize power.
There is a terible responsibility that comes with democracy.
The question now is can SCO germany be fined for the slander by SCO in the US. After all they are making these comments about an international operating system and comments in the states do effect lionux in the EU.
Come to think of it could every distro with a presence in Germany sue too.
If they think that I am going to licence my ftp server that I built from old components (P1-64Mb-30Gb HD), they must be on crack.
One option for fighting SCO would be to swamp them.
In my opinion every GNU/linux user should email SCO asking to buy a licence from them. Then request that the contracts and details be sent by snail mail. This will waste their time dealing with us and hopefully cause them to miss out on some poor fools who are actually trying to buy a licence.
As a geneticist I can tell you one dilema that we will soon have to face. As our understanding of the human genome increases and the tests become both simpler and cheaper, insurance companies are going to start to ask for genetic tests.
Before when someone went to get medical cover they take into account things like weight and age and if you smoke and drink. They use this data to decide on your premium. If they can now check and see that you have a genetic predesposition to cancer and heart faliure they might choose not to insure you or to charge huge premiums.
We might end up with a underclass in society of those who are uninsurable. The dilemas are then as follows:
1- Do the insurance companies have the right to ask for "genetic" information?
2- If so are they allowed to refuse cover based soley on "genetic" information?
3- How will these rights be legislated?
4- Where will the information be deposited and in whose care?
5- If you are already insured and then the tests are performed and potential problems are detected are the insurance companies liable for preventative treatment before disease onset?
6- Who will regulate the analysis of the data? One analysis might flag a particular gene as a problem and another not.
I shall leave you with an example: A widower Mr X goes for a test to get insurance. The results show that he has a defect in his heart muscle which will kill him around the age of 35. He is refused any life cover. He is uninsured when he dies and his kids are left with nothing.
I saw a documentary on the history channel. To cut a long story short, I invaded Poland.
This would be funny if they were not going to debate and try to implement this with public money. It also assumes that most people read the EULA and other text when instaling, as opposed to Next,Next,Next,Next,...Finish! On the plus side it does stop them doing anything more dangerous or stupid. It infact is a good distraction for the ".gov". Does anyone think that at the end we will have enough law to not need anymore?
Few comments:
... boo hoo hoo. .... Hi Id like to buy this album please!.... Sure thing sir , can I see some form of ID please?.
1- Funny very funny.
2- You are probably going bust because you threaten your customers and then throw them out of the store.
3- You are probably going bust because you sell family/christian rock.
4- You have to change with the times. Do not cry and blame others for your failure.
5- Tell me you have never photocopied anthing that was copyright.
6- Like it or not the law is not about being fair, the law is about accepted behavoiur. If everybody does something then it is not going to be illegal for too long. In europe at least we have a tradition of civil disobediance. When Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher brought in a poll tax (each person pays the same amount regardless of income) there were riots, people smashed things up and many millions of people refused to pay. The result the government took them to court one by one, each person had their lawyer stall and waste time. The result the government gave up.
7- There is no way that there is anywhere like 15 EUR/USD worth of music on a CD. It takes a bunch of artists and a recording stuidio to make an album. The publicity / promotion / hype is all shit. If the record companies focused on the music and not on hype then maybe the prices would go down and people would buy more.
8- Nobody seems to complain that I can record music from the radio.
9- The record companies have been consistenly been found price fixing. It is very hypocritical of them to now start to complain about the law being broken.
10- I for one would be so traumatised by being blacklisted from all record shops. Please dont
11- I download things because I cannot get them any other way. The selection in a record shop is soo small. Try and find a old verion of Derek and Clive in a shop.
12- There are less book piracies because people like to read books in strange places and not infornt of a screen.
13- You are on drugs if you think the war on drugs is working. The US locks up more of its population than any other.
14- How will your blacklist system work?
Just to let people know that initialy there were problems for many users who had ISPs with transparent proxies and people being unable to get bittorrent to download the iso's. Lots of complaints on the mandrakeclub about this. This has since been resolved by mandrake and works fine. I have got to say that I now love bittorrent.
In this case, if I watch this site could I be a pedophile?
Yes you would. Under your law (depending on where you live) the 16 year old would not have been able to consent.
Could the webmaster arrested for pedophilia?
No again (depending on where it is hosted) the webmaster did not commit a crime.
I agree whith you that a "local law on a global network doesn't just work at all" but each to his own.
The problem you are highlighting is one of customs between different cultures.... In England I can smoke, join the army, get married and move out at 16 but I cant vote or drink until 18. In most states of the US you cant drink until 21. In Portugal you can drink at 16.
This is the idea behind the formation of http://www.havenco.com/ where webhosting is not within the legal control of any country.
Nobody in Congress or the House of Reps comaplains about ofshore bank accounts, where all their freinds hide their money. Nobody complains when big companies move their headquarters to some small taxhaven island in the carribean. How is that any different? Want to avoid the laws of one country.... simple move your activities to another!
This is not funny. I live in Portugal and here they do use windows on the ATMs and yes I have seen a BSOD on a cash machine. Was very scary!
To take the arugment then playing Pacman would have me running round a dark room, filled with loud repetitive music and eating as many pills as I could find......er whoops!
We are under attack!!! Run away! run away!
I guess we need to update the story of the emperors new clothes to include vapourware, coredumps and segmentation faults.
You are talking utter crap. Who do you need missiles for? The US, Russia, UK and France all have more than enough for everybody. Who are you going to attack?
North Korea..... is a joke. The reason that they have/are developing them is because we have them. They are trying to get a deterent.
Let me remind you that 9/11 was done with civilian airliners. Most terrorist bombs are fertilizer.
On another point. Why does everybody blame the scientists. It it the politicians and the generals that drop the bombs. Morality has nothing to do with science.... if it was proved that Issac Newton molested children or Albert Einstein was an axe murderer this detracts nothing from their work. The priciples and laws of nature have nothing to do with morality. Have you ever met an evil equation? Ever seen a good chemical reaction?
Just remember that (in the west) you get who you vote for. Dont give me the crap that you dont have enough choice. Stand yourself is you have to! Remember that it is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for something you dont and to get it! Never forget that Adolf Hitler was voted on to power in democratic elections, only then did he seize power.
There is a terible responsibility that comes with democracy.
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M$ bug? I keep getting this Deja vu.
Bit of fisting?
The question now is can SCO germany be fined for the slander by SCO in the US. After all they are making these comments about an international operating system and comments in the states do effect lionux in the EU.
Come to think of it could every distro with a presence in Germany sue too.
We should tell SCO that IBM is only doing it out of love. They should think of it as a humane mercy killing of the terminaly ill.
Mail SCO with our deepest sympathy.
I dont know seems to be in Jenin.
Check it out:
inetnum: 213.152.119.0 - 213.152.120.255
netname: EARTHSTATIONV
descr: Employee's VOIP and workstations in the
Jenin refugee camp #23
country: PS
admin-c: RAS9905-RIPE
tech-c: NKA9905-RIPE
remarks: Speednet's # 2002122740
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: SPEEDNET-MNT
notify: admin@earthstationv.com
mnt-routes: EARTHSV-MNT
mnt-lower: EARTHSV-MNT
changed: speednet@email.com 20021231
source: RIPE
If they think that I am going to licence my ftp server that I built from old components (P1-64Mb-30Gb HD), they must be on crack.
One option for fighting SCO would be to swamp them.
In my opinion every GNU/linux user should email SCO asking to buy a licence from them. Then request that the contracts and details be sent by snail mail. This will waste their time dealing with us and hopefully cause them to miss out on some poor fools who are actually trying to buy a licence.
My 0.02EUR anyway
Not many know this but texstar has a awesome package for embedding Mplayer into Konqueror. This is just awesome.
Big thanks to the developers., for this one.
As a geneticist I can tell you one dilema that we will soon have to face. As our understanding of the human genome increases and the tests become both simpler and cheaper, insurance companies are going to start to ask for genetic tests.
Before when someone went to get medical cover they take into account things like weight and age and if you smoke and drink. They use this data to decide on your premium. If they can now check and see that you have a genetic predesposition to cancer and heart faliure they might choose not to insure you or to charge huge premiums.
We might end up with a underclass in society of those who are uninsurable. The dilemas are then as follows:
1- Do the insurance companies have the right to ask for "genetic" information?
2- If so are they allowed to refuse cover based soley on "genetic" information?
3- How will these rights be legislated?
4- Where will the information be deposited and in whose care?
5- If you are already insured and then the tests are performed and potential problems are detected are the insurance companies liable for preventative treatment before disease onset?
6- Who will regulate the analysis of the data? One analysis might flag a particular gene as a problem and another not.
I shall leave you with an example:
A widower Mr X goes for a test to get insurance. The results show that he has a defect in his heart muscle which will kill him around the age of 35. He is refused any life cover. He is uninsured when he dies and his kids are left with nothing.