Buy a NANO Tube, and be done with it. iPods since their inception have been prone to scratching, the NANO is no different. Buy a cover and just stop... please.
BS. Something harder than the plastic is needed to scratch it. Geology 101.
Secondly, it's PLASTIC. If you don't want it to scratch, then cover it. The NANO Tubes will be out very shortly so that you and your ilk can stop your crying.
Lastly, I have two friends that own these, both are scratched (keys and change in pocket with the NANO... duh), but when the screen is on and backlit, you dont' see one of the scratches. Not one, so... I simply do not believe you when you say "can't even read the screen". I call BS.
Weasel out of fixing them? I took my iPod to the Apple store near me and as my iPod was under warranty, they replaced it right there in the store, a model they hadn't sold for 10 months. Out of warranty low battery replacement iPods (every battery wears out with repeated use, obviously) will cost you $59... to get a whole new iPod of the type you originally owned. They call it their "Battery replacement program".
Tens of millions of us think it's a triumph of both substance with style. From iTunes to my ears, it's an easy, very well thought out process that is extremely intuitive. It does what it does, and does it the best. I can add things as I see fit later, or not. I like that choice. The iPod has by far the widest array of accesories than any other player on the planet. If I feel like I need a radio, and would even like to record the audio, I can. Keeping it as simple and as intuitively easy as possible is the core. That's part of Apple's mantra, and we should be thankful for them filling the void...
Doom III isn't "high-end" enough for ya? Holy bejebus. ROFL
You do realize that the majority of the most popular games are also released for the Mac, right? As I was discussing with another PC user yesterday, the only game I want for is Counter Strike. That's IT. I play Doom III, Warcraft (WoW, III, Starcraft, etc...) EverQuest, Sims 2, etc... all day long on my Mac. Sorry, just not sure what you meant by your statement as it didn't make much sense...
Holy shit! There's 30 million left handed, redheaded midgets in the world? That's awesome! Apple should use this as an excellent marketing tool. Free Nano to all LHRM's!!!
I could care less what it looks like, but with no HD to fail, a color screen, and literally be light enough to hang around me neck... I'll put down another $50.
"This is just, well... boring. The ROKR E1 design is definately not up to the "shit your pants" standard that Apple has worked hard to acheive."
This isn't an Apple product. Everyone must realize this. They didn't design it, build it, etc... nothing. It's just a Motorola phone that has iTunes functionality built in, which is very cool, but that's it.
I repeat, this is not an Apple product in any way, shape or form. Period.
"The interesting thing is that WOW supports MAC (You mean, Mac?) very well."
How is this interesting? There are tons of games that "support Macs". I'm a huge gamer and I do not own a Windows box, never have, so statements like that have always puzzled me. Not to mention, Blizzard has a long history of developing their games to be simultaneusly released with a Mac version on the same CDs. Nothing interesting about it at all.
"Granted the graphics I heard are not as good as on a PC"
Wha? The game looks beautiful on my Mac. "Granted", it's a dual 2.7 with a NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT DDL. It being a "Mac" has little to do with it.
"That would be a rather hard metric to evaluate! Not everybody works in a place where they can "write a program that makes it possible for your sales force to be 10% more effective". As the matter of fact, I could bet almost *nobody* has such a job."
And if I did do such a thing, which could easily be considered above and beyond my job description, I would ask for more money, so the original poster is even more misleading in his/.her assumptions. Just like "most" other jobs, we are paid to get a certain job done. If we get it done quicker, then we get more slack time. If that slack time is then filled with "new" things without a pay increase, then I will wonder why I went that extra mile in the first place.
This is normal psychology. It is the same for the widget maker. Unless he gets more money for producing more widgets than is expected, then why would they do it. Instead of slacking after meeting quota, they will just do their job slower than they are able in order to meet quota without hustle, and not much more...
So, they put tech in place to keep us from breaking the law and we're pissed at them? The company that is merely being fiscally responsible to it's investors, lawfully, by merely keeping us from breaking the law? Interesting...
Just seems you're pissed at the wrong people since it seems that we, the people, are to blame here. We were the ones that were asleep at the wheel when these laws were "discussed" and "inacted". I mean, this is still a democracy, right? Pissed that large pools of money and ergo power (large corps.) have more say in policy than the will of the populace? Pissed at the lack of education to the populace about these laws, purposefully, when they were being pushed through? I would be too...
"but I'm sure it won't fare nearly as well as the iPod itself"
I don't think it's supposed to. Besides, how could it, or anything else for that matter, actually "fare better" than the iPod has? No, I don't think 85% of the cell phone market would be the goal. The cell phone market today is vastly different than the portable music player market was when the iPod was introduced.
... on the quality of the cert. If the tests are well written, then they certainly help employers weed out candidates. If I have 1000 resumes in front of me, the one's with certs tell me that they actually had to have known the information that was on the tests within the last year. This is good. Anyone can type up a kick-ass resume. Anyone... With a cert I know he not only knew the information contained, but that he went through all the steps to do so. That alone is good info. Unfortunately (very unfortunate), some bad certs crept in from some very large companies (ahem) which watered down their importance.
The rest of the interview process will tell me if he is socially adept, and I can ask him various question and within a few moments be able to tell if his applied knowledge is at par with what I am looking for. The cert helps me in this way. I'm not going to interview 1000 candidates.
And I love my two Apple certified people (desktop and portable) because they can order parts right from Apple, and they seem to be very knowledgeable.
So yes, certs are good from the employer's point of view, which is why they exist in the first place. I just wish there was a way to "certify" the damn certs to ensure quality testing, but...
BTW, when I spec'ed that out at Dell, it came to nearly 3,400. Don't forget your speakers, viri/spyware protection, Windows XP Pro, DVD Player/burner software, etc... and, where's your iLife?
Did I mention you'd still be using Windows, and in a POS looking box, no where to go if you have trouble (Apple store, Genius bar?) instantly? India help lines? Apple's award winning support? Yeah, I'll pay the extra $300, no problem at all. I buy my Apple RAM from third party, and your argument holds no water at all. But thanks for playing...
"BTW, if Apple loved PPC so much, why did they announce the switch to Pentium M ?:)"
They didn't, they announced the switch to Intel.
And, BTW, people don't buy Macs for their hardware, wich I believe is much more slightly overpriced than you seem to think (spec it out like we have a billion times here at/.), they buy them for OS X which far outweighs their very slight overpricing, IMO, and in the opinion of the fastest growing computer seller in the market right now.... That very slight "overpricing" is payment for genius design. I wouldn't want it any other way and neither should any other Mac user.
"On a PC I usually use Linux, because I'm used to it, and on a Mac, I use OS X, which is based on BSD. For my purposes, both are adequate. But does one have any inherent advantage over the other? None that I can tell. YMMV."
You may be right. You and the other.01 % of the computer using populace that are in your field are probably right about that. For all "other" users, however, OS X would be a far more useful desktop environment, obviously. You see, to the other 99.9% of the computer using base, Linux is still unusable, and Windoze is still "clunky" (as a previous poster summarized)/virus/ad-ware filled, and missing an iLife like suite of free apps. So, the "the rest of us", there absolutely is an advantage of one over the other. But, thanks for your opinion nonetheless.
Actually, Logitech sells them for $79. I mean, I'm sure you can search and find a deal on them at some web-site, but suggesting that you can buy them for $41 everywhere is misleading. Some would even call that a "lie". Ahem...
"So the company that stayed with a one button mouse because "users might get confused"...
Actually, there was another reason that was more important, and had a great effect. It was to force developers to create one-button GUIs, which forced ease of use.
"How does selling lots of copies of OS X equal Apple losing money?
You're assuming they'd sell lots of copies. That's a big assumption."
And let's not forget, a large part of OS X's attractiveness (outside os its useability) is it's seamless hardware coupling since Apple designs and supports it. It's a total solution. Once OS X is being run on Bob's homemade machines, it's less attractive, Apple won't support the hardware, and Apple's #1 philosophical edge (total solution, control over all aspects from software to hardware in all of it's products) is gone.
Nope, never going to happen. Ever. It's what makes Apple Apple, and no one should want that to be different.
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Please, someone mod the parent down. It's pure ignorance at it's finest...
There are several sites to counter his "assumptions", this is just one.
And, when you think of all of the other things that we have spent $250B on ("another year in Iraq!"), those "arguments" look even more asinine.
You can all oficially, bite me.
From Apple: "In terms of the scratches, the company says the screen are the same as those on 4G iPods."
Buy a NANO Tube, and be done with it. iPods since their inception have been prone to scratching, the NANO is no different. Buy a cover and just stop... please.
BS. Something harder than the plastic is needed to scratch it. Geology 101.
Secondly, it's PLASTIC. If you don't want it to scratch, then cover it. The NANO Tubes will be out very shortly so that you and your ilk can stop your crying.
Lastly, I have two friends that own these, both are scratched (keys and change in pocket with the NANO... duh), but when the screen is on and backlit, you dont' see one of the scratches. Not one, so... I simply do not believe you when you say "can't even read the screen". I call BS.
"It seems to me that the main reason people buy iRiver players it to get a smug sense of superiority."
A proof being that the parent did nothing but spew a sheer opinion without a shred of reasoning, and was modded up.
One person's sheer opinion, I suppose.
Weasel out of fixing them? I took my iPod to the Apple store near me and as my iPod was under warranty, they replaced it right there in the store, a model they hadn't sold for 10 months. Out of warranty low battery replacement iPods (every battery wears out with repeated use, obviously) will cost you $59... to get a whole new iPod of the type you originally owned. They call it their "Battery replacement program".
Tens of millions of us think it's a triumph of both substance with style. From iTunes to my ears, it's an easy, very well thought out process that is extremely intuitive. It does what it does, and does it the best. I can add things as I see fit later, or not. I like that choice. The iPod has by far the widest array of accesories than any other player on the planet. If I feel like I need a radio, and would even like to record the audio, I can. Keeping it as simple and as intuitively easy as possible is the core. That's part of Apple's mantra, and we should be thankful for them filling the void...
Doom III isn't "high-end" enough for ya? Holy bejebus. ROFL
You do realize that the majority of the most popular games are also released for the Mac, right? As I was discussing with another PC user yesterday, the only game I want for is Counter Strike. That's IT. I play Doom III, Warcraft (WoW, III, Starcraft, etc...) EverQuest, Sims 2, etc... all day long on my Mac. Sorry, just not sure what you meant by your statement as it didn't make much sense...
Holy shit! There's 30 million left handed, redheaded midgets in the world? That's awesome! Apple should use this as an excellent marketing tool. Free Nano to all LHRM's!!!
As seen here.
I could care less what it looks like, but with no HD to fail, a color screen, and literally be light enough to hang around me neck... I'll put down another $50.
"This is just, well ... boring. The ROKR E1 design is definately not up to the "shit your pants" standard that Apple has worked hard to acheive."
This isn't an Apple product. Everyone must realize this. They didn't design it, build it, etc... nothing. It's just a Motorola phone that has iTunes functionality built in, which is very cool, but that's it.
I repeat, this is not an Apple product in any way, shape or form. Period.
"The interesting thing is that WOW supports MAC (You mean, Mac?) very well."
How is this interesting? There are tons of games that "support Macs". I'm a huge gamer and I do not own a Windows box, never have, so statements like that have always puzzled me. Not to mention, Blizzard has a long history of developing their games to be simultaneusly released with a Mac version on the same CDs. Nothing interesting about it at all.
"Granted the graphics I heard are not as good as on a PC"
Wha? The game looks beautiful on my Mac. "Granted", it's a dual 2.7 with a NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT DDL. It being a "Mac" has little to do with it.
"That would be a rather hard metric to evaluate! Not everybody works in a place where they can "write a program that makes it possible for your sales force to be 10% more effective". As the matter of fact, I could bet almost *nobody* has such a job."
And if I did do such a thing, which could easily be considered above and beyond my job description, I would ask for more money, so the original poster is even more misleading in his/.her assumptions. Just like "most" other jobs, we are paid to get a certain job done. If we get it done quicker, then we get more slack time. If that slack time is then filled with "new" things without a pay increase, then I will wonder why I went that extra mile in the first place.
This is normal psychology. It is the same for the widget maker. Unless he gets more money for producing more widgets than is expected, then why would they do it. Instead of slacking after meeting quota, they will just do their job slower than they are able in order to meet quota without hustle, and not much more...
So, they put tech in place to keep us from breaking the law and we're pissed at them? The company that is merely being fiscally responsible to it's investors, lawfully, by merely keeping us from breaking the law? Interesting...
Just seems you're pissed at the wrong people since it seems that we, the people, are to blame here. We were the ones that were asleep at the wheel when these laws were "discussed" and "inacted". I mean, this is still a democracy, right? Pissed that large pools of money and ergo power (large corps.) have more say in policy than the will of the populace? Pissed at the lack of education to the populace about these laws, purposefully, when they were being pushed through? I would be too...
"but I'm sure it won't fare nearly as well as the iPod itself"
I don't think it's supposed to. Besides, how could it, or anything else for that matter, actually "fare better" than the iPod has? No, I don't think 85% of the cell phone market would be the goal. The cell phone market today is vastly different than the portable music player market was when the iPod was introduced.
... on the quality of the cert. If the tests are well written, then they certainly help employers weed out candidates. If I have 1000 resumes in front of me, the one's with certs tell me that they actually had to have known the information that was on the tests within the last year. This is good. Anyone can type up a kick-ass resume. Anyone... With a cert I know he not only knew the information contained, but that he went through all the steps to do so. That alone is good info. Unfortunately (very unfortunate), some bad certs crept in from some very large companies (ahem) which watered down their importance.
The rest of the interview process will tell me if he is socially adept, and I can ask him various question and within a few moments be able to tell if his applied knowledge is at par with what I am looking for. The cert helps me in this way. I'm not going to interview 1000 candidates.
And I love my two Apple certified people (desktop and portable) because they can order parts right from Apple, and they seem to be very knowledgeable.
So yes, certs are good from the employer's point of view, which is why they exist in the first place. I just wish there was a way to "certify" the damn certs to ensure quality testing, but...
...so the record company songs will be more expensive than the oft better (these days) indie music?
I say let them shoot themselves in the foot, once again...
"I may be able to live in a box in SF but I sure as hell am not going to force my family into that kind of "immature" lifestyle."
What if that's what we, as a family, want? My wife and I would love to move there if we could.
And what in the world do you mean my "immature"? No, seriously. It doesn't make any sense.
What's funny, is that you will never, EVER see that sticker on the outside of any Apple product. Ever...
And you'd still be using Windows.
BTW, when I spec'ed that out at Dell, it came to nearly 3,400. Don't forget your speakers, viri/spyware protection, Windows XP Pro, DVD Player/burner software, etc... and, where's your iLife?
Did I mention you'd still be using Windows, and in a POS looking box, no where to go if you have trouble (Apple store, Genius bar?) instantly? India help lines? Apple's award winning support? Yeah, I'll pay the extra $300, no problem at all. I buy my Apple RAM from third party, and your argument holds no water at all. But thanks for playing...
"BTW, if Apple loved PPC so much, why did they announce the switch to Pentium M ? :)"
/.), they buy them for OS X which far outweighs their very slight overpricing, IMO, and in the opinion of the fastest growing computer seller in the market right now.... That very slight "overpricing" is payment for genius design. I wouldn't want it any other way and neither should any other Mac user.
They didn't, they announced the switch to Intel.
And, BTW, people don't buy Macs for their hardware, wich I believe is much more slightly overpriced than you seem to think (spec it out like we have a billion times here at
"On a PC I usually use Linux, because I'm used to it, and on a Mac, I use OS X, which is based on BSD. For my purposes, both are adequate. But does one have any inherent advantage over the other? None that I can tell. YMMV."
.01 % of the computer using populace that are in your field are probably right about that. For all "other" users, however, OS X would be a far more useful desktop environment, obviously. You see, to the other 99.9% of the computer using base, Linux is still unusable, and Windoze is still "clunky" (as a previous poster summarized)/virus/ad-ware filled, and missing an iLife like suite of free apps. So, the "the rest of us", there absolutely is an advantage of one over the other. But, thanks for your opinion nonetheless.
You may be right. You and the other
Actually, Logitech sells them for $79. I mean, I'm sure you can search and find a deal on them at some web-site, but suggesting that you can buy them for $41 everywhere is misleading. Some would even call that a "lie". Ahem...
"So the company that stayed with a one button mouse because "users might get confused"...
Actually, there was another reason that was more important, and had a great effect. It was to force developers to create one-button GUIs, which forced ease of use.
"How does selling lots of copies of OS X equal Apple losing money?
You're assuming they'd sell lots of copies. That's a big assumption."
And let's not forget, a large part of OS X's attractiveness (outside os its useability) is it's seamless hardware coupling since Apple designs and supports it. It's a total solution. Once OS X is being run on Bob's homemade machines, it's less attractive, Apple won't support the hardware, and Apple's #1 philosophical edge (total solution, control over all aspects from software to hardware in all of it's products) is gone.
Nope, never going to happen. Ever. It's what makes Apple Apple, and no one should want that to be different.