I'd be impressed if they open the spec of the mandatory ICs they'll be using to operate this system, so that they're transparent and everyone knows ALL of the technical capabilities being given to the government regarding what they can remotely do with your phone.
Web applications don't all need to permanently store user input to still be applications. I was part of developing one as a hobby, and know of dozens of others off-hand; they exist as part of successful, high-profile sites and on sites that have a handful of users at most.
A good portion of the web apps I use on a regular basis do not require user accounts, and it would be laughable to call them "static pages."
Fair enough. English is a language filled with ambiguity, which makes many things more difficult to make clear than should otherwise be necessary.
As for the remaining point of contention, that was a large, though unstated, part of the reason I posted. Many people are likely to fail entirely to consider that a valid point may be made by someone who appears to be making an ass of themselves. I posted to highlight the point being made, since the way in which it was made might turn many people off. I did not post in the same manner the other did, so as to potentially bring a point to light that others might not otherwise look deep enough to consider.
I should have commented more completely, since your repeated use of the pronoun "you" is ambiguous enough that it could mean a couple things.
No, being a dick does not change when a point is valid. At all. It will change the reception of the point, but does not, in any way, change the validity of such.
I did not make flippant or rude comments. I made an observation that the GP to my post made flippant and rude comments. I also did not claim ignorance of anything. You may believe my disagreement to be proof of ignorance, but haven't provided any evidence that such is actually the case.
There are others who view things in a bit more of a detached manner. I doubt I am unique in being able to divorce having a serious illness from discussion about said illness. I pointed out that I have such because it directly contradicts that statement that implied that anyone who has had such an illness could not agree with the GP. I am categorical proof that statement is untrue.
I was not making witty comedy. I would be interested to see a quote of exactly which part of my post you believe to be a comedic attempt.
I agree with you, in pretty much everything you say here.
I don't agree with the attack. I do agree with the point made. I believe, perhaps, that having someone who was not making the attack point out that the underlying position is valid might get others to look beyond the surface rather than skip it because of the way it was made. If only one other person looks past as a result, I count that a win. If not, oh well, can't win them all.
You apparently missed the fact that I'm not the person who made the original comment. I simply said I agreed with their point, if not the other comments attached to it.
Your attitude clearly demonstrates you have never had a serious illness in your life and have absolutely no concept of the profound effect it has on your life.
This is completely unfounded. I happen to agree with the first line, and I have spent the past 4 years dealing with repeated surgeries, radiation, and chemotherapy for stage IV cancer. I have plenty of empathy, but I don't make the mistake that a serious illness can be used as an excuse to "win" an argument through bullshit PC means. Yeah, part of the comment was flippant and pretty rude, but that doesn't change the fact that there was a valid point made.
Not that I'm necessarily for this tax, as the implementation is likely to cause far more problems than it solves, but it's interesting how the removal of externalities makes people crawl out of the woodwork to complain about how they should be able to continue foisting costs off onto others.
The interstate freeway system and associated infrastructure is probably (though I could be wrong, in that there are other areas keeping up, or in that not even freeway infrastructure is keeping up) the only road system currently not decaying faster than it's being repaired.
This may not be the answer, but something certainly needs to be done. Not that I believe it will actually happen, since governments in the US are much more adept at building massive things than they are at maintaining them against waste, corruption, and internal rot (be they infrastructure or programs).
If you want quality, you need to buy one of the quality lines. Those are typically commercial-class machines.
Of the laptops and workstations I've used from a number of major OEMs, the consumer ones have been either crappy or really crappy. The business ones have been, by-and-large, excellent. Again, brand being irrelevant.
That also applies to networking equipment. And tools, power and hand. And, well, pretty much everything you can buy, come to think of it...
They'll just Photoshop one together 3 years from now. It's not that they think it's too ridiculous to respond to, that's just how long it takes the US government to produce a forgery which is easily uncovered by any hobbyist with a pirated copy of CS5. An undetectable forgery obviously takes decades to make.
A more-correct analogy would be viewing a snuff film when you have no connection to the murderer, do not know them, and have no idea where the film actually came from originally. A less extreme one would be related to violent video games.
I'm not going to delve into the conclusions that can be drawn from that (will people who like those things eventually murder someone themselves, or pay to have someone murdered?), as this topic is too loaded with emotion and pseudo-psychology to actually have a rational discussion.
Pedophiles are bad, but the less extreme side in any argument over pedophilia and enforcement of laws against it results in the more extreme side using pejoratives to attempt to make those who do not follow in lockstep with them appear to be pedophile sympathizers. There are a couple cases of this immediately above, and probably dozens below.
There just isn't a demand for science and I cringed when I heard that the Liberals have education tax credit plans for university students. it just seems to be flooding the market with more university majors without employer demand for the degree.
This is the problem with universal higher education. I support having opportunities open, but not pushing people there who have no business in higher education. All it does is provide another HR checkbox when screening applications: "No degree? Tossed."
Then you're left with those who excel, and they get the interviews, assuming there are openings at all. Those are the people who would have gotten the interview anyway, so those who wouldn't otherwise have gone to college are no better off. In many regards, they are actually worse off, in that they spend years of time and money that the resulting education will never pay off. The argument "an education helps everyone" is a cop-out, and I usually have to walk away when it's trotted out in defense of universal higher education. Universal education hurts many, many people, but those who tout it will never, ever admit that. It doesn't fit their world-view, so they dismiss it out-of-hand.
As for your physics degree, that's a sucky situation. Last I heard, nearly 75% of physics graduates (at all levels) ultimately fail to find employment in their field, at least in the US.
Students and education are not factory systems into which you can blindly invest capital with a rational expectation of getting more money out the other end. It may happen, but it's not of a very high nor reliable return.
You should look into the for-profit university industry then. They most certainly treat students and education as a factory. They can invest money and get a return because of Federal financial aid. Their students consume a majority of all Federal aid given, because almost all of them need it to afford the tuition (as there are rarely scholarships or grants available for commercial schools, or those who qualify wouldn't consider choosing such a school).
It does happen, it is reliable, and it is profitable. Since Federal students loans are not dischargeable, the Feds have no problem freely doling the money out. Since for-profit education farms enroll far more students than any other educational segment, and the vast majority of those students finance via Federal student loans, they are safe institutions to invest in because the return is guaranteed by the Feds. The risk is entirely with the student. There's a reason why there's been an explosion in this market segment.
Yeah, actually I do, and among my fairly sizable circle of friends I can count the number of iPhone users on one hand. Blackberry is by far the most popular amongst the geeks I know in my area, and Android devices the second. Funny how my anecdotal experience is mirrored by actual nationwide statistics, whereas you are reduced to anonymously posting a sarcastic, and ultimately baseless, ad hominem.
Whether a phone is locked or not won't matter soon in the US, unless you plan to travel abroad. There'll be no other network to move it to. As for CDMA networks, most carriers won't activate a phone on their network that was not originally branded and sold by them, so it doesn't matter. Device independence effectively dies with the AT&T/T-Mobile merger.
If only. You used to be able to move devices between AT&T and T-Mobile, but AT&T is now using their incompetence at managing their network as an excuse to take even that choice away from us.
Given the "bigger is better" mentality in US politics today, the merger is unlikely to be stopped even if the FCC rules it can't go forward. They'll just pass legislation invalidating the FCC's ruling (assuming the FCC doesn't comply in the first place).
There is only the illusion of choice, since the cellular networks in the US operate as a cartel. Text messaging pricing alone is enough to prove that, even if only circumstantially.
Apparently you've never been to, or heard of, the many states that don't require tickets to be signed. Oregon is one (only place I've ever been ticketed).
And yes, they do send those papers via mail for traffic infractions, though it's only to the address registered with the DMV (update when you move). If you don't respond, they may, in fact, swear out a bench warrant.
This sounds like an extreme case, but is plausible.
I was watching the first Christopher Reeve Superman movie today, and noticed that Lex Luthor's monitors appear strikingly similar to current Apple products. I think someone should sue them for appropriating the trade dress of whoever produced those 1970s props.
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Same. I got a free iPod and stopped using it because iTunes is a horrible pain in the ass.
I'd be impressed if they open the spec of the mandatory ICs they'll be using to operate this system, so that they're transparent and everyone knows ALL of the technical capabilities being given to the government regarding what they can remotely do with your phone.
Somehow, I don't see that happening.
Two examples:
http://charts.kitco.com/KitcoCharts/
http://www.quanetic.com/Regex
Web applications don't all need to permanently store user input to still be applications. I was part of developing one as a hobby, and know of dozens of others off-hand; they exist as part of successful, high-profile sites and on sites that have a handful of users at most.
A good portion of the web apps I use on a regular basis do not require user accounts, and it would be laughable to call them "static pages."
Fair enough. English is a language filled with ambiguity, which makes many things more difficult to make clear than should otherwise be necessary.
As for the remaining point of contention, that was a large, though unstated, part of the reason I posted. Many people are likely to fail entirely to consider that a valid point may be made by someone who appears to be making an ass of themselves. I posted to highlight the point being made, since the way in which it was made might turn many people off. I did not post in the same manner the other did, so as to potentially bring a point to light that others might not otherwise look deep enough to consider.
I should have commented more completely, since your repeated use of the pronoun "you" is ambiguous enough that it could mean a couple things.
No, being a dick does not change when a point is valid. At all. It will change the reception of the point, but does not, in any way, change the validity of such.
I did not make flippant or rude comments. I made an observation that the GP to my post made flippant and rude comments. I also did not claim ignorance of anything. You may believe my disagreement to be proof of ignorance, but haven't provided any evidence that such is actually the case.
There are others who view things in a bit more of a detached manner. I doubt I am unique in being able to divorce having a serious illness from discussion about said illness. I pointed out that I have such because it directly contradicts that statement that implied that anyone who has had such an illness could not agree with the GP. I am categorical proof that statement is untrue.
I was not making witty comedy. I would be interested to see a quote of exactly which part of my post you believe to be a comedic attempt.
I agree with you, in pretty much everything you say here.
I don't agree with the attack. I do agree with the point made. I believe, perhaps, that having someone who was not making the attack point out that the underlying position is valid might get others to look beyond the surface rather than skip it because of the way it was made. If only one other person looks past as a result, I count that a win. If not, oh well, can't win them all.
You apparently missed the fact that I'm not the person who made the original comment. I simply said I agreed with their point, if not the other comments attached to it.
Failure to diagnose is not misdiagnosis.
Your attitude clearly demonstrates you have never had a serious illness in your life and have absolutely no concept of the profound effect it has on your life.
This is completely unfounded. I happen to agree with the first line, and I have spent the past 4 years dealing with repeated surgeries, radiation, and chemotherapy for stage IV cancer. I have plenty of empathy, but I don't make the mistake that a serious illness can be used as an excuse to "win" an argument through bullshit PC means. Yeah, part of the comment was flippant and pretty rude, but that doesn't change the fact that there was a valid point made.
Not that I'm necessarily for this tax, as the implementation is likely to cause far more problems than it solves, but it's interesting how the removal of externalities makes people crawl out of the woodwork to complain about how they should be able to continue foisting costs off onto others.
The interstate freeway system and associated infrastructure is probably (though I could be wrong, in that there are other areas keeping up, or in that not even freeway infrastructure is keeping up) the only road system currently not decaying faster than it's being repaired.
This may not be the answer, but something certainly needs to be done. Not that I believe it will actually happen, since governments in the US are much more adept at building massive things than they are at maintaining them against waste, corruption, and internal rot (be they infrastructure or programs).
This is easily one of the best posts I've read in years, and there are many who would treat you with scorn simply for uttering such notions.
Brand is irrelevant, including Dell.
If you want quality, you need to buy one of the quality lines. Those are typically commercial-class machines.
Of the laptops and workstations I've used from a number of major OEMs, the consumer ones have been either crappy or really crappy. The business ones have been, by-and-large, excellent. Again, brand being irrelevant.
That also applies to networking equipment. And tools, power and hand. And, well, pretty much everything you can buy, come to think of it...
They'll just Photoshop one together 3 years from now. It's not that they think it's too ridiculous to respond to, that's just how long it takes the US government to produce a forgery which is easily uncovered by any hobbyist with a pirated copy of CS5. An undetectable forgery obviously takes decades to make.
It's unlikely this is the first time said poster has asked that question.
I stand corrected. However, the further you get to the poles of extremism the less life and art imitate each other. The rest remains the same.
A more-correct analogy would be viewing a snuff film when you have no connection to the murderer, do not know them, and have no idea where the film actually came from originally. A less extreme one would be related to violent video games.
I'm not going to delve into the conclusions that can be drawn from that (will people who like those things eventually murder someone themselves, or pay to have someone murdered?), as this topic is too loaded with emotion and pseudo-psychology to actually have a rational discussion.
Pedophiles are bad, but the less extreme side in any argument over pedophilia and enforcement of laws against it results in the more extreme side using pejoratives to attempt to make those who do not follow in lockstep with them appear to be pedophile sympathizers. There are a couple cases of this immediately above, and probably dozens below.
There just isn't a demand for science and I cringed when I heard that the Liberals have education tax credit plans for university students. it just seems to be flooding the market with more university majors without employer demand for the degree.
This is the problem with universal higher education. I support having opportunities open, but not pushing people there who have no business in higher education. All it does is provide another HR checkbox when screening applications: "No degree? Tossed."
Then you're left with those who excel, and they get the interviews, assuming there are openings at all. Those are the people who would have gotten the interview anyway, so those who wouldn't otherwise have gone to college are no better off. In many regards, they are actually worse off, in that they spend years of time and money that the resulting education will never pay off. The argument "an education helps everyone" is a cop-out, and I usually have to walk away when it's trotted out in defense of universal higher education. Universal education hurts many, many people, but those who tout it will never, ever admit that. It doesn't fit their world-view, so they dismiss it out-of-hand.
As for your physics degree, that's a sucky situation. Last I heard, nearly 75% of physics graduates (at all levels) ultimately fail to find employment in their field, at least in the US.
Students and education are not factory systems into which you can blindly invest capital with a rational expectation of getting more money out the other end. It may happen, but it's not of a very high nor reliable return.
You should look into the for-profit university industry then. They most certainly treat students and education as a factory. They can invest money and get a return because of Federal financial aid. Their students consume a majority of all Federal aid given, because almost all of them need it to afford the tuition (as there are rarely scholarships or grants available for commercial schools, or those who qualify wouldn't consider choosing such a school).
It does happen, it is reliable, and it is profitable. Since Federal students loans are not dischargeable, the Feds have no problem freely doling the money out. Since for-profit education farms enroll far more students than any other educational segment, and the vast majority of those students finance via Federal student loans, they are safe institutions to invest in because the return is guaranteed by the Feds. The risk is entirely with the student. There's a reason why there's been an explosion in this market segment.
Yeah, actually I do, and among my fairly sizable circle of friends I can count the number of iPhone users on one hand. Blackberry is by far the most popular amongst the geeks I know in my area, and Android devices the second. Funny how my anecdotal experience is mirrored by actual nationwide statistics, whereas you are reduced to anonymously posting a sarcastic, and ultimately baseless, ad hominem.
You must be a conservative, to take a (mis)quote from Stephen Colbert at face value. :)
Really, the #3 smartphone is what people automatically think of?
Whether a phone is locked or not won't matter soon in the US, unless you plan to travel abroad. There'll be no other network to move it to. As for CDMA networks, most carriers won't activate a phone on their network that was not originally branded and sold by them, so it doesn't matter. Device independence effectively dies with the AT&T/T-Mobile merger.
If only. You used to be able to move devices between AT&T and T-Mobile, but AT&T is now using their incompetence at managing their network as an excuse to take even that choice away from us.
Given the "bigger is better" mentality in US politics today, the merger is unlikely to be stopped even if the FCC rules it can't go forward. They'll just pass legislation invalidating the FCC's ruling (assuming the FCC doesn't comply in the first place).
There is only the illusion of choice, since the cellular networks in the US operate as a cartel. Text messaging pricing alone is enough to prove that, even if only circumstantially.
Apparently you've never been to, or heard of, the many states that don't require tickets to be signed. Oregon is one (only place I've ever been ticketed).
And yes, they do send those papers via mail for traffic infractions, though it's only to the address registered with the DMV (update when you move). If you don't respond, they may, in fact, swear out a bench warrant.
This sounds like an extreme case, but is plausible.
I was watching the first Christopher Reeve Superman movie today, and noticed that Lex Luthor's monitors appear strikingly similar to current Apple products. I think someone should sue them for appropriating the trade dress of whoever produced those 1970s props.