Very true, but it's an excuse. As a stockholder you are never asked about whether you want your corporation to behave well. As a stockholder you are given an annual meeting, with buffet and speeches and an opposition which seldom raises questions like: why does this bank finances this oppressive regime? why does this corporation infiltrate and boycott this humanitarian program? To make me earn more? If I want to earn more no matter the ethics, I'd be a criminal. Especially in the criminal's paradise Italy has become.
You think you are funny? I just bought a laptop. I said to myself: look, Microsoft is evil and Vista is a POS according to many reports- but you have it with your new lappy, keep it for compatibility tests with the other POS explorer. Just dual boot. You already multibooted two macs, three intel laptops and an old alphaserver.
Ok. Let's try. Booted vista, made backup dvds. Looked around. Ok Vista seems to suck. Slow, and every desktop is different from the others, due to personalization by laptop manufactured, so it's the usual popup galore plus new widgets. Totally different from the macos -> osx transition, which was totally smooth, except for the fact that OSX till 10.2 was not even complete.
But I gotta repartition. Let's do it from vista, lest they did some FS trickery that linux installers do not yet know about. oh three partitions? well at least data is separate. OUCH but it won't resize to more than 50%. Defrag. OUCH no defrag Data partitions only, defrags everything. STOP. defrag.exe from commandline after looking for the proper options. Just like that difficult to use OS called linux. Defragged. Still won't resize. I guess I must get to windows forums looking for answers, just like that other difficult OS? No way- But I'm not using only 20 out of 120gb of disk for my main OS. Let's do it from linux. Resized, cut some 60gb of free space between two partitions. The linux zealot in me thinks: "wanna see that vista won't tolerate even leaving free space in the middle of his partitions?" reboot. Indeed, the restore screen comes up. That's it, vista goes. Kept in my house for two hours. Subtract one from vista install stats:)
The totalitarian regime is already established IMHO. It likes to divide people and nations and make them fight each other, not even for profit (more profit could be made by peaceful consumer sheep), but to complete the cultural devastation that leaves money as the only system of values. If you think this is a commie speech, I think communist was one of the ways to perpetrate said cultural devastation. Russian revolution was financed. Todays China boom is made with our money, even if you choose not to invest in China your bank probably does. If you think this is a conspiracy theory, I think that the same result of a conspiracy can be had by a composition of common interests by people who crave for power and are smart enough to gain lots of it, and that looking who's really behind a hypothetical conspiracy is a waste of time. It's important to see trends, their consequences, and resist them if you think a better future lies that way.
Click yes syndrome occurs on environments with too many dialogs. Trying an OS which updates centrally through a package system andd has no shareware nagging screens might help.:) Anyway do you really think being cut off from documents is better than shifting responsibility on the user, which in this particular case is more than acceptable? I disagree.
> If you read the knowledge base article, you'll see that the default allowed old-version goes back to before even Word 95. PowerPoint 95, but not 97, is blocked. It's very likely that few documents exist in such old formats at this point.
I do not agree, but that's irrelevant.
What's relevant is that instead of the obvious choice (open a dialog box like "This document is in an old format which poses security risks if coming from an untrusted source. Open anyway? (yes) (no) (always) (never)") the guys at MS decide what you can or can't access with your new PC.
OH Mighty debian sid, sorry to have offended your reputation!!! it was my fault. How silly of me, i had added repository to sid and installed video related stuff. I just updated mplayer and everything is working again.
> Could it have been that the show was written/scheduled in Microsoft PowerPoint and a corrupt.ppt file caused the OS to crash?;-)
Could be, but then the news would be that the previous 13 editions everything worked well.
Seriously, of the last two presentations I saw, both involving dvd video playback on XP, one failed miserably in front of 100 people, the second had periodic glitches (maybe the screensaver kicking in?) in front of 600 people.
Speaking as someone who just discovered his mplayer isn't finding a lib (BUT on debian unstable).
Please separate patents from copyright. Copyright is "I did this, do something different yourself", sounds fair enough. Patents is "I do or don't do this, but nobody else does it".
Even patents aren't evil by themselves but seeing the current state of affairs I prefer them to be unenforceable. Less people being pushed to innovate by patents is better than not being able to use the double linked list.
Given file corruption as equally probable, the most fragile system is windows (the insane registry), followed by unix/linux/OSX (a stabler OS and journaled FS help). Good ol' macOS beats em all because it could keep an arbitrary number of system folders (=OS installations) in the same partition, and switching between them IIRC could be done at startup. No system file was a single point of failure.
But even this is irrelevant because as you should know and other slahdotters state, file corruption under windows primarily occurs because of software problems not hardware glitches.
Last but not least, have you ever got a ".doc of death" which crashes some/all office installations? Maybe something similar happened and it was misreported as a corrupted file. The file could be well formed and the parsing lib buggy.
But on my G4 Mac every new release of FF works quite well. It's running under debian and with no flash player plugin. Since FF on debian ppc is a port of an entire Free OS+apps stack, while your FF on mac is likely a port on a proprietary OS, I'd say performance of FF becomes kind of the wrong example to use against open source.
But the only way to get that size a mass of volunteers is to work on a "sure thing" project with an established design that moves towards a goal everyone can already see -- to copy an established product.
Maybe it hasn't enough mass of volunteers? Make that ruby on rails, then.
Open source ends up copying established products because: 1) it's easier to get an audience that way. Users are lazy. 2) often there is little reason to change. there is no pressure to make people upgrade or get used to your paradigm as in closed source packages competing with each other.
But that doesn't stop never seen before stuff to come out. See debian packaging system, iolanguage, étoilé, wagn, countless others.
Last but not least, a reality check:
Linux may have the same old "ls" and "chmod" stuff you see on a vintage VAX, but the kernel is getting faster, configuring it is getting painless, and packages are growing in number.
On the other front there is the innovative Vista failure and the "let's put the good 'ol' macos GUI on good ol unix" Leopard.
GP poster simply stated that Meucci invented the telephone before bell. It doesn't imply any pissing contest. About Meucci's device having "any bearing on the development of the telephone", does it change anything? You simply can't say anything about phone development if the idea wasn't copied. Maybe it would have never been popular, maybe we'd have meucci brand gigabit dsl happily serving tons of data.
> Arguing over religion is like arguing over who's invisible friend is better.
Nice metaphor, pity it requires proof that all religious entities are imaginary like invisible friends. I'd say it's difficult to prove for transcendent ones.
Besides, people that accept countermeasures acritically can be easily tricked into accepting anything. You want to own the internet? first let a bunch of loonies roam it spewing falsehoods and bothering people. I guess many of them could be reported to their ISP and blocked before they learn about anonimity. Then, make some media fuss to augment the perceived scope of their actions, and then, legislate for generic censorship to "save the internet".
Control z is not going to help much if I had merged folders months ago unknowingly. I said "when i go back to work", even. Luckily there is the dialog so I likely never borked anything.
Market share must be very useful when you have to work with your computer? It never was in my 10+ years of productive computing with the mac before adopting linux.
Not that we were discussing market share. When somebody mentions an all in one desktop computer, what models comes to my mind?
1) the imac
2) the classic 9 inch screen macs
3) ???
So to me the imac is a perfectly reasonable candidate.
The idea of merging is cool, but if a merge is the most intuitive outcome of a folder copy for you, it sure isn't for me. Hopefully the user is notified about the proposed merge? else it's housekeeping time for me when i get back to work.
/Sig:/ GPLv3 is a tool for IBM to dominate the market. Any freedoms it ensures are merely side-effects.
Air is a tool for a fire to spread and destroy things. Any breathing capabilities it ensures are merely side effects.
GPL is an expression of greater freedom at expenses of local limitations. Freedom is greater than IBM and their competitors. B IBM fought Sun with patents.
Which linux distros offer bittorrent only? How does the firewall policy in your workplace make one protocol better or worse? How does the ratio of legal vs illegal content make one protocol better or worse? Do you realize bittorrent has catched on already? Do you realize there is one terribly common scenario (PC with enough cycles but not enough outgoing bandwidth) where scatter gather p2p beats ftp hands down?
Skilled IT staff in a mac environment => unix and typical unix server apps skills. Easier to migrate em to bsd, solaris, linux should the need arise. Skilled IT staff in a Win environment => skill at whatever MS decides to use in the latest incarnation of their OS, which might well be a bunch of purposefully obfuscated APIs protocols and procedures. Skilled IT staff in a FOSS environment with the resources of the army at your disposal => totally own your environment and do whatever you like with it.
To go further OT > "transcendent entities are necessarily outside the realm of logic" I think that's an arbitrary assumption, our logic might apply in the transcendent if there is one. On the other hand, even concepts like "are" and "outside" might make no sense at all in the transcendent.
What you need to do is contact your Dell Small Business account rep (I'm assuming you have one) and talk to him about Open Business Licensing. All you need to do is purchase 5 MS licenses in one chunk (it can be Office, Project, Visio, XP, Vista, 2003, SQL Server, whatever, but it must be 5 licenses in one order) and you can get Open Business licenses.
What happens after that is that you are given an authorization number and an agreement number (for each license or block of like licenses, say you purchase 3 copies of Office Standard) and you go to eopen.microsoft.com (Live account required:/ ) and login, plugin all your info and BAM! you are given keys for Office XP, Office 2003, and Office 2007.
OT: From the biased perspective of a linux user, I am sad for the human resouce waste of the whole procedure. You make a kernel recompile look like fun.:)
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Very true, but it's an excuse.
As a stockholder you are never asked about whether you want your corporation to behave well.
As a stockholder you are given an annual meeting, with buffet and speeches and an opposition which seldom raises questions like: why does this bank finances this oppressive regime? why does this corporation infiltrate and boycott this humanitarian program? To make me earn more? If I want to earn more no matter the ethics, I'd be a criminal. Especially in the criminal's paradise Italy has become.
You think you are funny? I just bought a laptop.
:)
I said to myself: look, Microsoft is evil and Vista is a POS according to many reports- but you have it with your new lappy, keep it for compatibility tests with the other POS explorer. Just dual boot. You already multibooted two macs, three intel laptops and an old alphaserver.
Ok. Let's try.
Booted vista, made backup dvds. Looked around. Ok Vista seems to suck. Slow, and every desktop is different from the others, due to personalization by laptop manufactured, so it's the usual popup galore plus new widgets. Totally different from the macos -> osx transition, which was totally smooth, except for the fact that OSX till 10.2 was not even complete.
But I gotta repartition. Let's do it from vista, lest they did some FS trickery that linux installers do not yet know about.
oh three partitions? well at least data is separate. OUCH but it won't resize to more than 50%. Defrag. OUCH no defrag Data partitions only, defrags everything. STOP. defrag.exe from commandline after looking for the proper options. Just like that difficult to use OS called linux. Defragged. Still won't resize. I guess I must get to windows forums looking for answers, just like that other difficult OS? No way- But I'm not using only 20 out of 120gb of disk for my main OS. Let's do it from linux. Resized, cut some 60gb of free space between two partitions. The linux zealot in me thinks: "wanna see that vista won't tolerate even leaving free space in the middle of his partitions?" reboot. Indeed, the restore screen comes up.
That's it, vista goes. Kept in my house for two hours. Subtract one from vista install stats
The totalitarian regime is already established IMHO. It likes to divide people and nations and make them fight each other, not even for profit (more profit could be made by peaceful consumer sheep), but to complete the cultural devastation that leaves money as the only system of values.
If you think this is a commie speech, I think communist was one of the ways to perpetrate said cultural devastation. Russian revolution was financed. Todays China boom is made with our money, even if you choose not to invest in China your bank probably does.
If you think this is a conspiracy theory, I think that the same result of a conspiracy can be had by a composition of common interests by people who crave for power and are smart enough to gain lots of it, and that looking who's really behind a hypothetical conspiracy is a waste of time. It's important to see trends, their consequences, and resist them if you think a better future lies that way.
Click yes syndrome occurs on environments with too many dialogs. Trying an OS which updates centrally through a package system andd has no shareware nagging screens might help. :)
Anyway do you really think being cut off from documents is better than shifting responsibility on the user, which in this particular case is more than acceptable? I disagree.
> If you read the knowledge base article, you'll see that the default allowed old-version goes back to before even Word 95. PowerPoint 95, but not 97, is blocked. It's very likely that few documents exist in such old formats at this point.
I do not agree, but that's irrelevant.
What's relevant is that instead of the obvious choice (open a dialog box like "This document is in an old format which poses security risks if coming from an untrusted source. Open anyway? (yes) (no) (always) (never)") the guys at MS decide what you can or can't access with your new PC.
OH Mighty debian sid, sorry to have offended your reputation!!! it was my fault. How silly of me, i had added repository to sid and installed video related stuff. I just updated mplayer and everything is working again.
> Could it have been that the show was written/scheduled in Microsoft PowerPoint and a corrupt .ppt file caused the OS to crash? ;-)
Could be, but then the news would be that the previous 13 editions everything worked well.
Seriously, of the last two presentations I saw, both involving dvd video playback on XP, one failed miserably in front of 100 people, the second had periodic glitches (maybe the screensaver kicking in?) in front of 600 people.
Speaking as someone who just discovered his mplayer isn't finding a lib (BUT on debian unstable).
Please separate patents from copyright.
Copyright is "I did this, do something different yourself", sounds fair enough.
Patents is "I do or don't do this, but nobody else does it".
Even patents aren't evil by themselves but seeing the current state of affairs I prefer them to be unenforceable. Less people being pushed to innovate by patents is better than not being able to use the double linked list.
Given file corruption as equally probable, the most fragile system is windows (the insane registry), followed by unix/linux/OSX (a stabler OS and journaled FS help). Good ol' macOS beats em all because it could keep an arbitrary number of system folders (=OS installations) in the same partition, and switching between them IIRC could be done at startup. No system file was a single point of failure.
But even this is irrelevant because as you should know and other slahdotters state, file corruption under windows primarily occurs because of software problems not hardware glitches.
Last but not least, have you ever got a ".doc of death" which crashes some/all office installations? Maybe something similar happened and it was misreported as a corrupted file. The file could be well formed and the parsing lib buggy.
Nice to see you managed to avoid ruby on rails completely. Well keep your POV, I prefer reality.
But on my G4 Mac every new release of FF works quite well. It's running under debian and with no flash player plugin. Since FF on debian ppc is a port of an entire Free OS+apps stack, while your FF on mac is likely a port on a proprietary OS, I'd say performance of FF becomes kind of the wrong example to use against open source.
So where's the "closed source established product" of... what you have under your nose?
Maybe it hasn't enough mass of volunteers? Make that ruby on rails, then.
Open source ends up copying established products because:
1) it's easier to get an audience that way. Users are lazy.
2) often there is little reason to change. there is no pressure to make people upgrade or get used to your paradigm as in closed source packages competing with each other.
But that doesn't stop never seen before stuff to come out. See debian packaging system, iolanguage, étoilé, wagn, countless others.
Last but not least, a reality check:
Linux may have the same old "ls" and "chmod" stuff you see on a vintage VAX, but the kernel is getting faster, configuring it is getting painless, and packages are growing in number.
On the other front there is the innovative Vista failure and the "let's put the good 'ol' macos GUI on good ol unix" Leopard.
GP poster simply stated that Meucci invented the telephone before bell. It doesn't imply any pissing contest. About Meucci's device having "any bearing on the development of the telephone", does it change anything? You simply can't say anything about phone development if the idea wasn't copied. Maybe it would have never been popular, maybe we'd have meucci brand gigabit dsl happily serving tons of data.
> Arguing over religion is like arguing over who's invisible friend is better.
Nice metaphor, pity it requires proof that all religious entities are imaginary like invisible friends. I'd say it's difficult to prove for transcendent ones.
Besides, people that accept countermeasures acritically can be easily tricked into accepting anything.
You want to own the internet? first let a bunch of loonies roam it spewing falsehoods and bothering people. I guess many of them could be reported to their ISP and blocked before they learn about anonimity. Then, make some media fuss to augment the perceived scope of their actions, and then, legislate for generic censorship to "save the internet".
Control z is not going to help much if I had merged folders months ago unknowingly. I said "when i go back to work", even. Luckily there is the dialog so I likely never borked anything.
Market share must be very useful when you have to work with your computer? It never was in my 10+ years of productive computing with the mac before adopting linux.
Not that we were discussing market share. When somebody mentions an all in one desktop computer, what models comes to my mind?
1) the imac
2) the classic 9 inch screen macs
3) ???
So to me the imac is a perfectly reasonable candidate.
The idea of merging is cool, but if a merge is the most intuitive outcome of a folder copy for you, it sure isn't for me. Hopefully the user is notified about the proposed merge? else it's housekeeping time for me when i get back to work.
Air is a tool for a fire to spread and destroy things. Any breathing capabilities it ensures are merely side effects.
GPL is an expression of greater freedom at expenses of local limitations. Freedom is greater than IBM and their competitors. B IBM fought Sun with patents.
Let me disprove the usefulness of parent post for failure to assume laziness of GP poster.
Which linux distros offer bittorrent only?
How does the firewall policy in your workplace make one protocol better or worse?
How does the ratio of legal vs illegal content make one protocol better or worse?
Do you realize bittorrent has catched on already?
Do you realize there is one terribly common scenario (PC with enough cycles but not enough outgoing bandwidth) where scatter gather p2p beats ftp hands down?
Skilled IT staff in a mac environment => unix and typical unix server apps skills. Easier to migrate em to bsd, solaris, linux should the need arise.
Skilled IT staff in a Win environment => skill at whatever MS decides to use in the latest incarnation of their OS, which might well be a bunch of purposefully obfuscated APIs protocols and procedures.
Skilled IT staff in a FOSS environment with the resources of the army at your disposal => totally own your environment and do whatever you like with it.
...new version of Internet Explorer passing web standards conformance test.
To go further OT
> "transcendent entities are necessarily outside the realm of logic"
I think that's an arbitrary assumption, our logic might apply in the transcendent if there is one. On the other hand, even concepts like "are" and "outside" might make no sense at all in the transcendent.
OT: From the biased perspective of a linux user, I am sad for the human resouce waste of the whole procedure. You make a kernel recompile look like fun.