I hope there's no single 'killer'. Diversity is a good thing, it gives choice and keeps competition driving things forward. It won't be too many years before pretty much all phones are smart phones, and there's a lot of room in the phone market for a lot of vendor's to exist and profit.
So here's to hoping we see a nice market share for iPhones's OS, Android, Maemo, WebOS, and Windows Mobile.
You mean like unknown to the pilot emergencies that might be communicated to him by a traffic controller, such as change your altitude, you are on a collision course with x-other plane?
A pilot ignoring traffic controllers for over an hour is NOT a non-event.
Oh, I have. I have friends that hate Sprint because of their availability (people in the country where towers are sparser and Verizon generally has better coverage there).
The thing is, with the Sprint Data Plan (which you get when you get a Pre) you get free roaming, which is on Verizon network since they use the same radio type. So the phone reception is just as good as when you have Verizon. Without that I could understand their Sprint hate, but that seems to eliminate their concern.
The thing is, on the Pre, the other app doesn't stop when you switch to the other one. I can keep playing Pandora while I'm surfing the web. The multitasking is fantastic. Much better than task swapping. That's so OS9/8/7/...
The cloud is good for having an additional remote backup for things small enough to restore quickly (after heavily encrypting of course). Don't forget you should have offsite backups of things you really want/need to keep, in case your place gets robbed, burned down, flooded, etc.
Don't forget Sprint includes turn-by-turn navigation and some other nice things for that price that other carriers charge extra for, or require a paid app for.
Personally, I think that one is totally Palm milking free press from the controversy. I think they are getting way more free press out of this than it would to have cost to use the API's already present to write their own.
They already have Amazon MP3's hooked up through their own built-in app. People who really prefer iTunes probably already have an iPhone. The iTunes fake-out is just something to tweak Apple (& their iPhone's) nose, and get some free press. It seems to be working quite well.
Palm didn't lay off workers. That was a rumor by some hack that's been spreading a lot of FUD about Palm lately. Maybe trying to grab some stock after causing a drop, who knows. Palm has a lot of Pre's and is doing better than the expectations of most analysts. Palm actually has 75 job openings listed hiring on for the Pre and WebOS areas. That's after they just hired in the past few days a few well known people from the home-brew scene.
The other link showed phone sales and traffic in different markets and the world in total. The Pre is doing pretty well for only being out ~4 months, being with a single and small carrier, and their app store still being in Beta.
The home-brew scene is busy, and Verizon is picking up the phone in January. Actually Verizon is supposidly getting a slightly updated phone (the rumors are just added disk space).
1/10 is pretty good for only having 20 apps available, compared to 4000+. Plus the Ore is a bit handicapped by being tied to a smaller carrier.
Come January, the Pre will also be available on Verizon, and by then the app store will be rolling. Take a look at it by March and I think it's numbers will be doing very well.
Why should anyone pay attentition to that issue. They certainly weren't paying attention to the issue when they posted this crap article.
Other folks have gotten open-source apps on Pre's store that they distribute the code for other places as well. JZ was simply being a Prima Donna who wanted Palm to change their procedures to fit his lifestyle. When they didn't immediatly change their whole process to fit his desires he threw a hissy fit.
The Pre has been out for all of about 4 months, and it's responsible for 4% of the world and 9% of North America mobile traffic.
Not bad for that new of a phone that doesn't have it's app store out of beta yet.
The iPhone has a 3 year head start. I hardly think you can call the Pre failing when it's captured a very respectable market share when it's so new when the support infrastructure such as the app store isn't finished.
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Those guys are smart. Those guys never said the universe needs or wants us to survive. That's the ramblings of some moron posting things on the internet, rather than a top physicist.
Why do *we* want to survive? Probably because most of us (other then the aforementioned moron) still have the desire to survive, procreate, and pass on our genes to a future generation. That's been hard-wired in most life on the planet for quite some time now.
Really rich people, don't make most of their income from working. They make it from their investments.
If a rich guy lives in Florida, but works in California for a minute, he may owe them on the $5 he made working there for a minute, but he doesn't owe them a thing for the $50 his investments made during that minute. If he lived in California he'd be paying taxes on $55 instead of $5.
Tax decisions are much different for the really rich then they are for the rest of us.
I'm sure folks who share certain secrets with a partner in China who is doing their outsourced work already know that their is already a laptop in china 'all the time' with those secrets on them. No need to wait for a US exec to come over.
The point of this policy is to keep other secrets that haven't been shared, out of China and away from danger.
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I hope there's no single 'killer'. Diversity is a good thing, it gives choice and keeps competition driving things forward. It won't be too many years before pretty much all phones are smart phones, and there's a lot of room in the phone market for a lot of vendor's to exist and profit.
So here's to hoping we see a nice market share for iPhones's OS, Android, Maemo, WebOS, and Windows Mobile.
You mean like unknown to the pilot emergencies that might be communicated to him by a traffic controller, such as change your altitude, you are on a collision course with x-other plane?
A pilot ignoring traffic controllers for over an hour is NOT a non-event.
Get a Palm Pre with a touchstone today then. No need to wait for the future.
Funny, my Palm Pre and most other smart phones I've looked at recently all come with one.
The size factor is why I love my Pre. Still linux, but it's just a nicer form factor for keeping in your pocket.
I thought the N900 was going to be T-Mobile only in the U.S. Is that incorrect?
Oh, I have. I have friends that hate Sprint because of their availability (people in the country where towers are sparser and Verizon generally has better coverage there).
The thing is, with the Sprint Data Plan (which you get when you get a Pre) you get free roaming, which is on Verizon network since they use the same radio type. So the phone reception is just as good as when you have Verizon. Without that I could understand their Sprint hate, but that seems to eliminate their concern.
The Hero is way too laggy for me. I'm sticking with the Pre. The keyboard is fine for me. The home-brew virtual keyboard for it isn't bad either.
What is your disappointment?
With the data plan, you get free roaming (which uses Verizon's network).
You get free cell to cell calls on any network.
You can buy a base plan with unlimited data/MMS/text messaging and 450 min of talk/month to land lines and unlimited to cells for $69.99
Their network isn't over saturated like AT&T's.
You get free turn-by-turn navigation (most other carriers charge extra for that).
I love my Pre and have been happy with Sprint so far.
The thing is, on the Pre, the other app doesn't stop when you switch to the other one. I can keep playing Pandora while I'm surfing the web. The multitasking is fantastic. Much better than task swapping. That's so OS9/8/7/...
The cloud is good for having an additional remote backup for things small enough to restore quickly (after heavily encrypting of course). Don't forget you should have offsite backups of things you really want/need to keep, in case your place gets robbed, burned down, flooded, etc.
Don't forget Sprint includes turn-by-turn navigation and some other nice things for that price that other carriers charge extra for, or require a paid app for.
Personally, I think that one is totally Palm milking free press from the controversy. I think they are getting way more free press out of this than it would to have cost to use the API's already present to write their own.
They already have Amazon MP3's hooked up through their own built-in app. People who really prefer iTunes probably already have an iPhone. The iTunes fake-out is just something to tweak Apple (& their iPhone's) nose, and get some free press. It seems to be working quite well.
Oh, and to counter something else in that new article, Palm just released a new version of their OS today. iTunes syncing works again.
Here's a different one for you that might work.
http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/09/30/pre-faltering-palm-laying-off-employees/
Palm didn't lay off workers. That was a rumor by some hack that's been spreading a lot of FUD about Palm lately. Maybe trying to grab some stock after causing a drop, who knows. Palm has a lot of Pre's and is doing better than the expectations of most analysts. Palm actually has 75 job openings listed hiring on for the Pre and WebOS areas. That's after they just hired in the past few days a few well known people from the home-brew scene.
The other link showed phone sales and traffic in different markets and the world in total. The Pre is doing pretty well for only being out ~4 months, being with a single and small carrier, and their app store still being in Beta.
The home-brew scene is busy, and Verizon is picking up the phone in January. Actually Verizon is supposidly getting a slightly updated phone (the rumors are just added disk space).
Don't buy the fud.
1/10 is pretty good for only having 20 apps available, compared to 4000+. Plus the Ore is a bit handicapped by being tied to a smaller carrier.
Come January, the Pre will also be available on Verizon, and by then the app store will be rolling. Take a look at it by March and I think it's numbers will be doing very well.
It's the #4 smart phone in the world. Not too bad for only being out for ~4 months.
http://metrics.admob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/AdMob-Mobile-Metrics-Aug-092.pdf
Why should anyone pay attentition to that issue. They certainly weren't paying attention to the issue when they posted this crap article.
Other folks have gotten open-source apps on Pre's store that they distribute the code for other places as well. JZ was simply being a Prima Donna who wanted Palm to change their procedures to fit his lifestyle. When they didn't immediatly change their whole process to fit his desires he threw a hissy fit.
Oh, and the citation:
http://metrics.admob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/AdMob-Mobile-Metrics-Aug-092.pdf
The Pre has been out for all of about 4 months, and it's responsible for 4% of the world and 9% of North America mobile traffic.
Not bad for that new of a phone that doesn't have it's app store out of beta yet.
The iPhone has a 3 year head start. I hardly think you can call the Pre failing when it's captured a very respectable market share when it's so new when the support infrastructure such as the app store isn't finished.
Those guys are smart. Those guys never said the universe needs or wants us to survive. That's the ramblings of some moron posting things on the internet, rather than a top physicist.
Why do *we* want to survive? Probably because most of us (other then the aforementioned moron) still have the desire to survive, procreate, and pass on our genes to a future generation. That's been hard-wired in most life on the planet for quite some time now.
Here's the thing,...
Really rich people, don't make most of their income from working. They make it from their investments.
If a rich guy lives in Florida, but works in California for a minute, he may owe them on the $5 he made working there for a minute, but he doesn't owe them a thing for the $50 his investments made during that minute. If he lived in California he'd be paying taxes on $55 instead of $5.
Tax decisions are much different for the really rich then they are for the rest of us.
That is why the REAL article says the guy is looking at 5 years in the slammer.
You thought the Slashdot 'article/summary' header was going to be accurate? About anything? You haven't been here long.
I'm sure folks who share certain secrets with a partner in China who is doing their outsourced work already know that their is already a laptop in china 'all the time' with those secrets on them. No need to wait for a US exec to come over.
The point of this policy is to keep other secrets that haven't been shared, out of China and away from danger.
Here's the thing...
If EVERY laptop and cell phone phoned home to China to give away secrets, somebody is gonna notice. REAL quick.
They need to more selectively target folks if they want to actually be able to get away with hacking a machine to send them secret data.