As I said: Some CD-ROM drives can read the copy protected CDs, some CD-ROM drives can't. Depends on the model and the protection system used.
The music industry says copy protected CDs are playable in all CD players and are not playable in CD-ROM drives. The resulst of the register show that this is simply not true. It's like gambling.
The copy protected CD you buy today may run on your current CD player. But what about your next CD player? How much percent of your CD collection will not run on the new player?
heise.de has setup a register for copy protected CDs and on which drives/players they are playable. The results so far show, that the copy protection is not PC drive specific. Some CD players do play some copy protected CDs, some players don't. The same goes for CD-ROM drives. Depends on the copy protection system also. Thus you can't tell which copy protection system will stop your next CD player from playing the CD.
Thus the record companies are FORCING music fans to make a digital copy (which is a crime in Germany now if you have to circumvent a copy protection mechansim).
... but this is what you get if you click on the "Company"-Link of ES5:
Our group is made up of many people, Jordanians, Palestinians, Indians, Americans, Russians and Israelis. Some of us are Jewish, some Christians, some Hindus and other of us are Muslim.
Believe it or not, we all love and respect each other.
We all work and play together. Our families on many occasions eat at the same dinner table. We trust each other and are very close friends with each other. As a group, the most important thing in our life is our children, our families and love ones and of course our friends.
The SCO Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: SCOX - News), the owner of the UNIX(R) operating system, today announced the appointment of Gregory Blepp as vice president of SCOsource. Blepp will report to Chris Sontag, the senior vice president and general manager of SCOsource, the division of SCO tasked with protecting and licensing the company's UNIX intellectual property.
Blepp, a former VP of International Business at SuSE, brings to SCO a wealth of experience in marketing and business management from time at Network Associates and Computer Associates. Blepp's appointment is taking place at SCOForum in Las Vegas this week where he is being introduced to SCO partners and resellers.
"We're pleased to have Gregory Blepp join SCO to assist in our efforts around SCOsource in Europe," said Chris Sontag, senior vice president and GM, SCOsource. "We look forward to using Blepp's talents and expertise in assisting the company to properly license SCO's valuable UNIX intellectual property."
Remember that Munich (Germany, Oktoberfest, remember ?) decided to migrate 15,000 desktops to Linux? That decision was mainly based on the strategic argument that open source software would help local consultants and IT vendors better than MS software would.
The argument that open source software creates jobs for smaller entities instead of spending money on software from big companies located somewhere is a strong argument if you talk to politicians.
I contacted SCO Germany and tried to get an offer for a desktop licence. On the phone a SCO employee said I should stop "babbling" (yes, she used that word). I should sent an email instead. Others have tried that weeks ago and got no reaction up to now. The company doing the press releases for SCO Germany informed me that they are not allowed to comment on the licence in any way, too.
It looks like there is absolutly no chance to buy the SCO licence for Linux in Germany at the moment.
"The SCO Group (Nasdaq: SCOX - News) helps millions of customers in more than 82 countries to grow their businesses with UNIX business solutions. Headquartered in Lindon, Utah, SCO has a worldwide network of more than 11,000 resellers and 4,000 developers. "
I think sco.de is more accurate:
"Hauptsitz: Lindon, Utah, USA Handlernetz: uber 11.000 Reseller in 82 Landern Mitarbeiter weltweit: 350"
So they squeezed 4,000 developers into 350 employees ?
Ah, did you know you can comment on SCOX stock in the resigned Yahoo stock quote page ?
I just visited the German SCO Server (online again, *sig*). Their Newsletter 01/2003 brags about SCO-Linux being ready for enterprise level applications. They state that SCO Linux (distributed under GPL AFAIK) includes code of the "Open Source Community" and the "UnitedLinux LLC, which included and integrated the functionalities critical for professional enterprise deployment" (bad translation by me;-)).
Then they go on talking about what great stuff there is in this release (see page 2 of the newsletter):
* Kernel 2.4.19, KDE 3 etc * Improvements in the memory manager for scalability and performance etc.
I don't believe they did not know what they were distributing if they advertise with this stuff.
OK... back to see if they still have something about this whole mess on their German server. That would cost them a lot of money now.
It's all about choice. Linux will pick up more market share on the desktop as soon as the hardware vendors will test their stuff on linux as well and supply drivers if needed. Chicken and egg problem here. Also Linux needs a better mechanism to integrate those drivers.
OSX is more for the "I just want it working" people for now. So once the public realizes that there is more than one bootscreen (who the heck knows what an Operating System is ?) they will look at Linux AND OSX.
Choice is a good thing. And the generations knowing what an OS is and that you can select from multiple are coming;-)
Telkel was Marc's first try to make money for a living. Telkel failed. Marc didn't give up, stayed with open source and continued the work on JBoss. When JBoss.org has been registered in the past there didn't exist such a thing as the commercial service company "JBoss Group". In the early days of JBoss Group they had a separate "area" on JBoss.org (or even their own domain, can't remember). Today JBoss.org does attract a lot of people, so they want to leverage that for the commercial service group. As a result the domain jboss.org was transfered from Marc to the JBoss Group LLC.
Remember: The developers that are part of JBoss Group are still developing HEAD and fixing bugs on it for free. The code is released under LGPL and thus safe from being bought by MS.
"... cheap MCSEs... cheaper people will appreciate having a job."
With WHICH customers ? If you didn't get it: (I am not kidding) the customer base this ISP had was gone a month later. Now, WHICH job do these MCSEs still have ?
A close friend of mine worked for a local ISP. The ISP got bought by a bigger company. The new management decided to replaces all unix mail-systems with MS Exchange.
The complete technical department from the "old" left the company within days.
Slide 8: "How did customer obtain those libraries in the past?"
- Software vendors copied SCO shared libraries for linux OS, example: (see URL)
- professional services organisations
- over the internet: message boards, knowledge bases, FTP sites. example: (see URL)
Slide 9: (slide in english)
Slide 10: "licence modell from SCO System V for Linux"
- Price $149 per CPU
- volume licencing possible
- current and future SCO linus servr 4.0 customers get a free SCO system V licence
Slide 11: "advocate support"
SCO got David Boies from "B,SaF" 'under contract' to:
- protect IP, patents and copyright
- locate violations against these (?) laws
- to track down such violations
Slide 12: Website-Adresses, for licensing contact infod@sco.com;-)
HTH
I'll translate the section I find interesting: Slide 1: Logo Slide 2: New business unit for protecting: IP, patents, copyright Slide 3: History... Slide 4: Why licence SCO IP ? - Customer wants it (???) - (don't understand, bs) - simplify the usage of unix apps on linux Slide 5: First Podukt: SCO System V for Linux making SCO shared unix libraries available for linux... yada yada... Slide 6: gfx Slide 7: - end of the 80s SCO developped an open specification (names ibcs2) for running unix apps on standatd Intel Hardarw - these shared libs are used in many SCR3.x-SVR5 OSes - Because ibcs2 is an open specification, the linux commnunity was able to copy it and rename is to LInux ABI. - For running unix apps on linux customers use Linux ABI and SCO shared libs - SCO shared libs couldn't be licences separate from SCO OS up to today.
WTF ? Why is this rated as "funny" ? This is not funny !
The ones who have rated that comment as funny apparently have been sitting to long in front of their computers. Go out, talk to some real people. This IS how many of 'them' think.
'Speaking to The Register earlier today Graham Taylor said the organisation's aim was to "move Open Source forward in the business world," and that there would be a formal launch in February. He said that although mistakes had been made over Unix, "Geoff and Phil were among the people who stood up and said 'this is nonsense.'" And he apologised profusely for sending out the press release in Microsoft Word format. "I am in the process of being converted," he shamefacedly told The Register'
I think Mr. Taylor needs to learn a few more things.
You should know one thing about user interfaces: Tell the users what is dangerous. They _want_ to know that.
So the root "barrier" is actually good. I tell everybody I install Linux on their PCs: As long as you do not enter the root password you cannot break the system. You can only harm you own files."
That makes them very confident in trying stuff out. Because they KNOW it's not dangerous and it won't do big stuff. (OK, the data is still very important, but most of the time you f**k up the system while playing in the registry, right ?).
So I think that root barrier is a bonus. Everybody trying to install a printer should be able to know and enter the root password. On the other hand this barrier also makes the system more fool proof (I have guests sometimes).
Slashdot Mirror
As I said: Some CD-ROM drives can read the copy protected CDs, some CD-ROM drives can't. Depends on the model and the protection system used.
The music industry says copy protected CDs are playable in all CD players and are not playable in CD-ROM drives. The resulst of the register show that this is simply not true. It's like gambling.
The copy protected CD you buy today may run on your current CD player. But what about your next CD player? How much percent of your CD collection will not run on the new player?
heise.de has setup a register for copy protected CDs and on which drives/players they are playable. The results so far show, that the copy protection is not PC drive specific. Some CD players do play some copy protected CDs, some players don't. The same goes for CD-ROM drives. Depends on the copy protection system also. Thus you can't tell which copy protection system will stop your next CD player from playing the CD.
Thus the record companies are FORCING music fans to make a digital copy (which is a crime in Germany now if you have to circumvent a copy protection mechansim).
Look at this mobile from Motorola with GSM/GPRS, GPS and Linux. It also includes PDA functionalities and has the size of a credit card.
;-)
The only weak point may be the way you enter characters: with a jog-dial.
The future looks promising to me
... but this is what you get if you click on the "Company"-Link of ES5:
Our group is made up of many people, Jordanians, Palestinians, Indians, Americans, Russians and Israelis. Some of us are Jewish, some Christians, some Hindus and other of us are Muslim.
Believe it or not, we all love and respect each other.
We all work and play together. Our families on many occasions eat at the same dinner table. We trust each other and are very close friends with each other. As a group, the most important thing in our life is our children, our families and love ones and of course our friends.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030819/latu060_1.html
reads:
The SCO Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: SCOX - News), the owner of the UNIX(R) operating system, today announced the appointment of Gregory Blepp as vice president of SCOsource. Blepp will report to Chris Sontag, the senior vice president and general manager of SCOsource, the division of SCO tasked with protecting and licensing the company's UNIX intellectual property.
Blepp, a former VP of International Business at SuSE, brings to SCO a wealth of experience in marketing and business management from time at Network Associates and Computer Associates. Blepp's appointment is taking place at SCOForum in Las Vegas this week where he is being introduced to SCO partners and resellers.
"We're pleased to have Gregory Blepp join SCO to assist in our efforts around SCOsource in Europe," said Chris Sontag, senior vice president and GM, SCOsource. "We look forward to using Blepp's talents and expertise in assisting the company to properly license SCO's valuable UNIX intellectual property."
Is this world full of insane people ?
... how they will get people to activate the TCPA/Palladium features.
Now we know: MS will do it for you. How kind of them!
This is from a heise.de article .
Two slides show some code (1 2)
that may come from Fifth Edition UNIX.
Really ?
You better read this (in German) or the (automatic) translation.
Why couldn't the SCADA systems been affected by some RPC blocking firewall ?
Of course no one will ever admit that such a thing has happened. Otherwise she/he will end up in Guatanamo. It's your turn now to do some research.
Could it be that your tax dollars were spent for a system that is based on RPC ?
Could it be that firewalling port 135 prevented the security system from cutting the nets form each other ?
Remember that Munich (Germany, Oktoberfest, remember ?) decided to migrate 15,000 desktops to Linux? That decision was mainly based on the strategic argument that open source software would help local consultants and IT vendors better than MS software would.
The argument that open source software creates jobs for smaller entities instead of spending money on software from big companies located somewhere is a strong argument if you talk to politicians.
... not so hard to locate now.
Given the numbers it should be easy to prove either
a) that there is no possible combination of the given number of files with the given number of LOC in the kernel sources
or
b) that a matching combination is not contributed by someone who could have had access to any information from SCO IP (which I doubt it even exists).
Has done someone something like this before ?
I contacted SCO Germany and tried to get an offer for a desktop licence. On the phone a SCO employee said I should stop "babbling" (yes, she used that word). I should sent an email instead. Others have tried that weeks ago and got no reaction up to now. The company doing the press releases for SCO Germany informed me that they are not allowed to comment on the licence in any way, too.
It looks like there is absolutly no chance to buy the SCO licence for Linux in Germany at the moment.
Summaries can be found here and here.
From the press statement:
"The SCO Group (Nasdaq: SCOX - News) helps millions of customers in more than 82 countries to grow their businesses with UNIX business solutions. Headquartered in Lindon, Utah, SCO has a worldwide network of more than 11,000 resellers and 4,000 developers. "
I think sco.de is more accurate:
"Hauptsitz: Lindon, Utah, USA
Handlernetz: uber 11.000 Reseller in 82 Landern
Mitarbeiter weltweit: 350"
So they squeezed 4,000 developers into 350 employees ?
Ah, did you know you can comment on SCOX stock in the resigned Yahoo stock quote page ?
I just visited the German SCO Server (online again, *sig*). Their Newsletter 01/2003 brags about SCO-Linux being ready for enterprise level applications. They state that SCO Linux (distributed under GPL AFAIK) includes code of the "Open Source Community" and the "UnitedLinux LLC, which included and integrated the functionalities critical for professional enterprise deployment" (bad translation by me ;-)).
... back to see if they still have something about this whole mess on their German server. That would cost them a lot of money now.
Then they go on talking about what great stuff there is in this release (see page 2 of the newsletter):
* Kernel 2.4.19, KDE 3 etc
* Improvements in the memory manager for scalability and performance
etc.
I don't believe they did not know what they were distributing if they advertise with this stuff.
OK
From the viedo page:
;-P
"All videos are made at the field back of my house in Bielefeld, Germany."
This is clearly a hoax. Everybody knows that Bielefeld does not exist. But THEY want to make us believe that it does exist.
Obviously they choose to use advanced tactics to make us believe it exists. But THEY can't fool me
It's all about choice.
;-)
Linux will pick up more market share on the desktop as soon as the hardware vendors will test their stuff on linux as well and supply drivers if needed. Chicken and egg problem here. Also Linux needs a better mechanism to integrate those drivers.
OSX is more for the "I just want it working" people for now. So once the public realizes that there is more than one bootscreen (who the heck knows what an Operating System is ?) they will look at Linux AND OSX.
Choice is a good thing. And the generations knowing what an OS is and that you can select from multiple are coming
Cheers,
OhMy
Telkel was Marc's first try to make money for a living.
Telkel failed. Marc didn't give up, stayed with open source and continued the work on JBoss.
When JBoss.org has been registered in the past there didn't exist such a thing as the commercial service company "JBoss Group". In the early days of JBoss Group they had a separate "area" on JBoss.org (or even their own domain, can't remember). Today JBoss.org does attract a lot of people, so they want to leverage that for the commercial service group. As a result the domain jboss.org was transfered from Marc to the JBoss Group LLC.
Remember: The developers that are part of JBoss Group are still developing HEAD and fixing bugs on it for free. The code is released under LGPL and thus safe from being bought by MS.
"... cheap MCSEs ... cheaper people will appreciate having a job."
With WHICH customers ?
If you didn't get it: (I am not kidding) the customer base this ISP had was gone a month later. Now, WHICH job do these MCSEs still have ?
A close friend of mine worked for a local ISP. The ISP got bought by a bigger company. The new management decided to replaces all unix mail-systems with MS Exchange.
...
The complete technical department from the "old" left the company within days.
Management will never learn
Slide 8: "How did customer obtain those libraries in the past?" - Software vendors copied SCO shared libraries for linux OS, example: (see URL) - professional services organisations - over the internet: message boards, knowledge bases, FTP sites. example: (see URL) Slide 9: (slide in english) Slide 10: "licence modell from SCO System V for Linux" - Price $149 per CPU - volume licencing possible - current and future SCO linus servr 4.0 customers get a free SCO system V licence Slide 11: "advocate support" SCO got David Boies from "B,SaF" 'under contract' to: - protect IP, patents and copyright - locate violations against these (?) laws - to track down such violations Slide 12: Website-Adresses, for licensing contact infod@sco.com ;-)
HTH
I'll translate the section I find interesting: ... ... yada yada ...
...
Slide 1: Logo
Slide 2: New business unit for protecting: IP, patents, copyright
Slide 3: History
Slide 4: Why licence SCO IP ?
- Customer wants it (???)
- (don't understand, bs)
- simplify the usage of unix apps on linux
Slide 5: First Podukt: SCO System V for Linux
making SCO shared unix libraries available for linux
Slide 6: gfx
Slide 7: - end of the 80s SCO developped an open specification (names ibcs2) for running unix apps on standatd Intel Hardarw
- these shared libs are used in many SCR3.x-SVR5 OSes
- Because ibcs2 is an open specification, the linux commnunity was able to copy it and rename is to LInux ABI.
- For running unix apps on linux customers use Linux ABI and SCO shared libs
- SCO shared libs couldn't be licences separate from SCO OS up to today.
to be continued
WTF ? Why is this rated as "funny" ? This is not funny !
The ones who have rated that comment as funny apparently have been sitting to long in front of their computers. Go out, talk to some real people. This IS how many of 'them' think.
'Speaking to The Register earlier today Graham Taylor said the organisation's aim was to "move Open Source forward in the business world," and that there would be a formal launch in February. He said that although mistakes had been made over Unix, "Geoff and Phil were among the people who stood up and said 'this is nonsense.'" And he apologised profusely for sending out the press release in Microsoft Word format. "I am in the process of being converted," he shamefacedly told The Register'
I think Mr. Taylor needs to learn a few more things.
You should know one thing about user interfaces:
Tell the users what is dangerous. They _want_ to know that.
So the root "barrier" is actually good. I tell everybody I install Linux on their PCs: As long as you do not enter the root password you cannot break the system. You can only harm you own files."
That makes them very confident in trying stuff out. Because they KNOW it's not dangerous and it won't do big stuff. (OK, the data is still very important, but most of the time you f**k up the system while playing in the registry, right ?).
So I think that root barrier is a bonus. Everybody trying to install a printer should be able to know and enter the root password. On the other hand this barrier also makes the system more fool proof (I have guests sometimes).