Well, SSX Tricky is an EA title, where Amped is Microsoft. It's not impossible that SSX has MSN banners, but I am about 99.9% sure that Amped does have them.
Most professional sporting events have advertising tied to them now- it's just the way it goes.
Top Spin also has advertising- but only when you play in the big arenas. When you are on a playground, or training facility, you don't see ads. But most of the stadiums are 'sponsored'.
I do like it, I really think it adds some realism.
I'm 35, and I've been playing games for about 28 years. I can't sit and do something as passive as watch TV, movies, etc. anymore. I want to have an effect on what is happening!
In my mind, video games ARE the new TV.
I don't even have TV anymore...just an Xbox monitor.
I don't think computing power cures cancer. Nor will computing power find signals in space where there are none.
Pure computing power won't cure cancer, until the correct data is assembled, and the proper deductions are made.
In the meantime, I will be sitting on my ass playing games, smoking, drinking, and eating fatty foods. Hoping to god that someone with more of a life finds some way to fix the damage I am doing.
Just to clarify before people jump on the part about ads for MSN on SSX Tricky or Links 2004. (My guess is that you meant Amped- not SSX Tricky)
The ads are just 'billboards' that are typically placed around sporting events. This actually adds to the realism for me. Just like Rallisport Challenge has advertising for all kinds of car companies- just like in real racing.
So, when there are grandstands in Links, like on the 18th green, there are usually a few small banners. Live, MSN, Suunto, etc. Just like in real golf.
The only game I have run into a bunch of kids on was Mechassault, which isn't a surprise, because it comes free with Live now.
The people I've talked to while playing Crimson Skies, Top Spin, and Links have probably averaged about 25-35 years old. In fact, if you play in the XSN tournaments, I would say the average age goes up beyond that. (Or at least the minimum age is up to at least 20...it seems like the kids don't have the attention span required)
Sculpture, painting, and literature are all 'fine art'.
Fine art is all well and good- but the public also enjoys artistic works by the likes of Snoop Dogg, Matt Groenig, and Aaron Spelling.
While the aforementioned artists are not involved in the traditional 'fine arts', they are artists nonetheless. Just like CliffyB, and Hiroshima Tatsumi (or whatever the guy from Nintendo is named.)
Personally, I don't know about art- but I know what I like. And the artistry involved in Metal Arms, or Deus Ex, is enough for me and the rest of the Clampetts.
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I agree- King Rat was a great book.
I think 'Anti-Hero' got a new meaning with that book.
But I have had a hard time explaining the whole thing to my wife, she usually stops me in the middle with an "oh, gross".
Well, we can look at this a couple of different ways.
First, my statement can be taken literally. Xbox has the smallest number of games marketed towards kids, because it has the smallest number of games total (comparing all 3 consoles). Gamecube has approx 400, while Xbox has 'over 300'. Playstation has many more than that, I do not know the number.
Second, once again really only comparing Xbox and Gamecube, you can look at the ESRB ratings of the games for each system.
I did not include Playstation, because I wasn't going to look through the sheer volume of games there, to get a percentage. You can figure it out yourself.
So, in sheer numbers, Xbox has the smallest number of games marketed towards kids. Also, when comparing the ESRB ratings, once again, Xbox has the smallest number of games marketed towards kids.
Now, pretty soon you should learn how to look up facts for yourself. It is difficult being an educated person, when you need other people to do all of the research for you. Or, even better- when something is a generally known fact, sometimes it is okay to just accept it, rather than being a pain in the ass and demanding proof.
Well, mod me redundant, because the response to your post is so obvious.
You played Halo on the Xbox for 30 seconds, and decided that it was not good?
Maybe you should consider giving it a little more time. Or, forgetting about Halo- I would suggest that you give the next few games you play a little more time before you decide if they are good or bad.
Xbox games usually are aimed more toward an older population, that is why I'm a big fan. And, they are usually aimed more towards Americans- another point for me.
The original poster was right- they games are marketed toward a particular group, which I am part of. I have no interest in Japanese RPGs, or anything with little kids with blue hair, and huge eyes.
You mentioned a few examples of games not marketed toward older gamers. You are right on some of those, but generally, the number of games marketed towards kids is smallest on the Xbox.
I would like to argue though that Pac-Man World 2 is targeted toward a mature gamer. It is all about nostalgia- it is also a crappy game...
Also- this is a case of a company/industry regulating itself. I would much prefer self-regulation of the imaging industry (copiers, printers, etc) than the government finally stepping in, because the machinery is used for rampant counterfeiting.
And- to the guy who is upset because maybe his pictures of birds wouldn't come out...(the grass/fields are dark green)
I used a color copier with this protection on it for many, many years. The ONLY thing that ever tripped the counterfeiting sensors was money. Never did any other photograph cause any problems. Only money (US currency).
So, if Microsoft wants you to buy used Xbox games- then they need to make the Xbox 2 compatible with the original Xbox.
And how much money will Microsoft be making when you purchase that metric buttload of used Xbox games?
Yes- Microsoft should spend a lot of money developing emulation in the NextBox, so that you can purchase used games. I see the logic in that...it's a SOCIAL PROGRAM...not a business.
It's like the security tags on clothing. Try to steal something, and the ink packet will explode- destroying the clothes.
The store doesn't actually do it- it is the thief that is responsible.
We didn't sell the chips to the Russians, they were able to get them through 'less than honest' means. We did not put them in their hands and say 'use this'.
When I was in high school, one of my friends found his dads stash of pot. We took from it pretty liberally. I always laughed when I thought about him confronting us- "did you steal my marijuana?"
Normally, I would agree with you- saying that girls would like 'golf and tennis' sounds pretty bad. Your friends might want to whack me over the head for suggesting that they play these games, but they may change their minds once they see them in action. Plus, just seeing the blood dripping from my face might satisfy their primal urge to kill.
But- more than being good 'chick' games, I've found that Links 2004 and Top Spin are UNIVERSAL games. I've probably had 30 different people (even numbers of each gender) come over to my housing playing games in the last year.
The 2 universal favorites by far are Links and Top Spin. The women especially liked Top Spin- and as I mentioned before, Tetris. I have yet to meet a woman who looks at Halo, and says "I want to play too".
It does sound stupid though- "get your girlfriend to play sports games" - but these just aren't sports games. The appeal is much greater than that. (at least from my experience when trying to get these girls/women to play games)
Instead of killing, etc- try some games where death is not the point. Also- the idea of 'typing' or 'chatting' (typing wise) isn't good. Go with the real voice.
I would recommend an Xbox, with Xbox live.
3 Excellent games that women really do like, and are Live capable:
Top Spin tennis. Excellent game. Women like it too!
Links 2004 golf. Cool thing is, you don't have to play at the same skill level. Lag is not an issue and it can be fairly easy- yet still challenging.
The grand-daddy of all chick games- Tetris. Comes with new Xboxes. Good game, and chicks love it.
All three of them will let you play, and are good games. Yet all of them are women friendly, but guys like them too. My wife plays all of them, even without me.
You mentioned 'security guards'. I was in the Army, and I was supposedly guarding something stupid (like a nuclear missle, or something like that). Well, I was sitting in a chair that was low, and deep (you see them on every Army base). Eventually, I figured that the Russkies wouldn't attack that day, and I fell asleep.
A few hours (?) later, someone came to check on the security detail (me) and he walked up, and saw I was asleep. He started yelling at me- totally pissed off. I woke up, saw that it was a Major, and tried to snap to attention.
Because I had been sleeping in the chair so long, and the type of chair cut off circulation to my legs, my muscles wouldn't work at all. I fell to the ground, and I couldn't stand up. I literally had to lay there while this guy started yelling and screaming at me, telling me I wasn't doing my job, etc. (It's pretty obvious to me, while I am laying down with useless legs...)
After about 2 minutes of him screaming at me to get up, salute, stand at attention, etc. he finally figured out I had a real problem. So he called our medics, and they came to get me on a stretcher. Eventually they took me to the hospital for a checkup.
Of course I had to go along with this now, and I told them that the last thing I remember was walking on my rounds, and I must have passed out or something. They kept me in the hospital for a day. I felt like a real jackass, but telling them that I was sleeping there so long that my legs became useless just wasn't a good option.
Yes- you are correct that Europe as a continent is very diverse- as long as you aren't interested in the rest of the world. (Well, it's full of Europeans- which somehow in the US, lots of people from a European background is 'not diverse'.)
But, since we were talking about the United States (which is a country, not a continent) I was really referring to each individual country in Europe. Now of course, the countries are smaller, so the comparison is more difficult.
But, on the link I posted in a response above. Take a look at most countries in Europe. Sweden...full of Swedes...Germany...full of Germans, etc. etc. It's not like all of the people were thrown into a big blender, and strewn around the continent. It's more like they were placed very carefully, and most of them stayed where they were told to. (Except the ones who didn't like that sort of thing...they came to America- or were sent to Australia...lucky them.)
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AND- The Best X of All Time articles make up 100% of the links to Gamespy from Slashdot.
Oral surgeon?
I think he needs a proctologist.
Well, SSX Tricky is an EA title, where Amped is Microsoft. It's not impossible that SSX has MSN banners, but I am about 99.9% sure that Amped does have them.
Most professional sporting events have advertising tied to them now- it's just the way it goes.
Top Spin also has advertising- but only when you play in the big arenas. When you are on a playground, or training facility, you don't see ads. But most of the stadiums are 'sponsored'.
I do like it, I really think it adds some realism.
I agree 100%
I'm 35, and I've been playing games for about 28 years. I can't sit and do something as passive as watch TV, movies, etc. anymore. I want to have an effect on what is happening!
In my mind, video games ARE the new TV.
I don't even have TV anymore...just an Xbox monitor.
I don't think computing power cures cancer. Nor will computing power find signals in space where there are none.
Pure computing power won't cure cancer, until the correct data is assembled, and the proper deductions are made.
In the meantime, I will be sitting on my ass playing games, smoking, drinking, and eating fatty foods. Hoping to god that someone with more of a life finds some way to fix the damage I am doing.
Just to clarify before people jump on the part about ads for MSN on SSX Tricky or Links 2004. (My guess is that you meant Amped- not SSX Tricky)
The ads are just 'billboards' that are typically placed around sporting events. This actually adds to the realism for me. Just like Rallisport Challenge has advertising for all kinds of car companies- just like in real racing.
So, when there are grandstands in Links, like on the 18th green, there are usually a few small banners. Live, MSN, Suunto, etc. Just like in real golf.
Try Links 2004. I've played that, and Mario. No comparison, Links is a better (best) golf game.
Personally, I love Live.
The only game I have run into a bunch of kids on was Mechassault, which isn't a surprise, because it comes free with Live now.
The people I've talked to while playing Crimson Skies, Top Spin, and Links have probably averaged about 25-35 years old. In fact, if you play in the XSN tournaments, I would say the average age goes up beyond that. (Or at least the minimum age is up to at least 20...it seems like the kids don't have the attention span required)
Sculpture, painting, and literature are all 'fine art'.
Fine art is all well and good- but the public also enjoys artistic works by the likes of Snoop Dogg, Matt Groenig, and Aaron Spelling.
While the aforementioned artists are not involved in the traditional 'fine arts', they are artists nonetheless. Just like CliffyB, and Hiroshima Tatsumi (or whatever the guy from Nintendo is named.)
Personally, I don't know about art- but I know what I like. And the artistry involved in Metal Arms, or Deus Ex, is enough for me and the rest of the Clampetts.
I agree- King Rat was a great book.
I think 'Anti-Hero' got a new meaning with that book.
But I have had a hard time explaining the whole thing to my wife, she usually stops me in the middle with an "oh, gross".
I don't know...
People like that are why I am glad I live in the U.S.
We can have fun, without pretense.
Well, we can look at this a couple of different ways.
First, my statement can be taken literally. Xbox has the smallest number of games marketed towards kids, because it has the smallest number of games total (comparing all 3 consoles). Gamecube has approx 400, while Xbox has 'over 300'. Playstation has many more than that, I do not know the number.
Second, once again really only comparing Xbox and Gamecube, you can look at the ESRB ratings of the games for each system.
Xbox list
Gamecube list
I did not include Playstation, because I wasn't going to look through the sheer volume of games there, to get a percentage. You can figure it out yourself.
So, in sheer numbers, Xbox has the smallest number of games marketed towards kids. Also, when comparing the ESRB ratings, once again, Xbox has the smallest number of games marketed towards kids.
Now, pretty soon you should learn how to look up facts for yourself. It is difficult being an educated person, when you need other people to do all of the research for you. Or, even better- when something is a generally known fact, sometimes it is okay to just accept it, rather than being a pain in the ass and demanding proof.
Well, mod me redundant, because the response to your post is so obvious.
You played Halo on the Xbox for 30 seconds, and decided that it was not good?
Maybe you should consider giving it a little more time. Or, forgetting about Halo- I would suggest that you give the next few games you play a little more time before you decide if they are good or bad.
At least complete the first mission-
Well, the marketing in this case is correct.
Xbox games usually are aimed more toward an older population, that is why I'm a big fan. And, they are usually aimed more towards Americans- another point for me.
The original poster was right- they games are marketed toward a particular group, which I am part of. I have no interest in Japanese RPGs, or anything with little kids with blue hair, and huge eyes.
You mentioned a few examples of games not marketed toward older gamers. You are right on some of those, but generally, the number of games marketed towards kids is smallest on the Xbox.
I would like to argue though that Pac-Man World 2 is targeted toward a mature gamer. It is all about nostalgia- it is also a crappy game...
Thank you Mr. AC- you made a good point here.
Also- this is a case of a company/industry regulating itself. I would much prefer self-regulation of the imaging industry (copiers, printers, etc) than the government finally stepping in, because the machinery is used for rampant counterfeiting.
And- to the guy who is upset because maybe his pictures of birds wouldn't come out...(the grass/fields are dark green)
I used a color copier with this protection on it for many, many years. The ONLY thing that ever tripped the counterfeiting sensors was money. Never did any other photograph cause any problems. Only money (US currency).
So, if Microsoft wants you to buy used Xbox games- then they need to make the Xbox 2 compatible with the original Xbox.
And how much money will Microsoft be making when you purchase that metric buttload of used Xbox games?
Yes- Microsoft should spend a lot of money developing emulation in the NextBox, so that you can purchase used games. I see the logic in that...it's a SOCIAL PROGRAM...not a business.
It's like the security tags on clothing. Try to steal something, and the ink packet will explode- destroying the clothes.
The store doesn't actually do it- it is the thief that is responsible.
We didn't sell the chips to the Russians, they were able to get them through 'less than honest' means. We did not put them in their hands and say 'use this'.
When I was in high school, one of my friends found his dads stash of pot. We took from it pretty liberally. I always laughed when I thought about him confronting us- "did you steal my marijuana?"
Lazy Penguin Girl-
Normally, I would agree with you- saying that girls would like 'golf and tennis' sounds pretty bad. Your friends might want to whack me over the head for suggesting that they play these games, but they may change their minds once they see them in action. Plus, just seeing the blood dripping from my face might satisfy their primal urge to kill.
But- more than being good 'chick' games, I've found that Links 2004 and Top Spin are UNIVERSAL games. I've probably had 30 different people (even numbers of each gender) come over to my housing playing games in the last year.
The 2 universal favorites by far are Links and Top Spin. The women especially liked Top Spin- and as I mentioned before, Tetris. I have yet to meet a woman who looks at Halo, and says "I want to play too".
It does sound stupid though- "get your girlfriend to play sports games" - but these just aren't sports games. The appeal is much greater than that. (at least from my experience when trying to get these girls/women to play games)
I would recommend an Xbox, with Xbox live.
3 Excellent games that women really do like, and are Live capable:- Top Spin tennis. Excellent game. Women like it too!
- Links 2004 golf. Cool thing is, you don't have to play at the same skill level. Lag is not an issue and it can be fairly easy- yet still challenging.
- The grand-daddy of all chick games- Tetris. Comes with new Xboxes. Good game, and chicks love it.
All three of them will let you play, and are good games. Yet all of them are women friendly, but guys like them too. My wife plays all of them, even without me.A few months ago I upgraded my DSL service to 256k up. Solely to allow me to host bigger Xbox Live games.
256k may not be great, but it's a lot better than 128. It's even broaderband.
Occasionally I take my Xbox to work (around Christmas) and I love to host 16 player Crimson Skies games there. Things chug along great.
I would be happy with an 8 person game- but hopefully we will be able to do more.
Umm...because it is not competing against the PC, the Xbox is competing against the PS2 (and Gamecube).
In which case, it really does have 'amazing gaphics'.
Okay- sad stupid story..
You mentioned 'security guards'. I was in the Army, and I was supposedly guarding something stupid (like a nuclear missle, or something like that). Well, I was sitting in a chair that was low, and deep (you see them on every Army base). Eventually, I figured that the Russkies wouldn't attack that day, and I fell asleep.
A few hours (?) later, someone came to check on the security detail (me) and he walked up, and saw I was asleep. He started yelling at me- totally pissed off. I woke up, saw that it was a Major, and tried to snap to attention.
Because I had been sleeping in the chair so long, and the type of chair cut off circulation to my legs, my muscles wouldn't work at all. I fell to the ground, and I couldn't stand up. I literally had to lay there while this guy started yelling and screaming at me, telling me I wasn't doing my job, etc. (It's pretty obvious to me, while I am laying down with useless legs...)
After about 2 minutes of him screaming at me to get up, salute, stand at attention, etc. he finally figured out I had a real problem. So he called our medics, and they came to get me on a stretcher. Eventually they took me to the hospital for a checkup.
Of course I had to go along with this now, and I told them that the last thing I remember was walking on my rounds, and I must have passed out or something. They kept me in the hospital for a day. I felt like a real jackass, but telling them that I was sleeping there so long that my legs became useless just wasn't a good option.
Aw crap- I was hoping to be the first to mention the Xbox, and try to put a positive spin on it.
Like "See, the Xbox really does have good games- this little kid was glued to the TV for 10 hours!"
Xbox- so good it hurts.
Microsoft should use this in marketing campaigns. Maybe this is some really skinny kid missing teeth, with a bad haircut, and some jelly on his face.
"Wonth I gotsh my Xbotchs, I dun do nuffin elsthe no more" Xbox- where would you have gone today?
Wow dude- you nailed it.
Yes- you are correct that Europe as a continent is very diverse- as long as you aren't interested in the rest of the world. (Well, it's full of Europeans- which somehow in the US, lots of people from a European background is 'not diverse'.)
But, since we were talking about the United States (which is a country, not a continent) I was really referring to each individual country in Europe. Now of course, the countries are smaller, so the comparison is more difficult.
But, on the link I posted in a response above. Take a look at most countries in Europe. Sweden...full of Swedes...Germany...full of Germans, etc. etc. It's not like all of the people were thrown into a big blender, and strewn around the continent. It's more like they were placed very carefully, and most of them stayed where they were told to. (Except the ones who didn't like that sort of thing...they came to America- or were sent to Australia...lucky them.)