Slashdot Mirror


Computer Game Player Gets Blood Clot In Leg

Thanks to BBC News for its article discussing a UK teenager who developed a blood clot in his leg after playing videogames in one position for too long. The piece explains: "Dominic Patrick, 14, from Merseyside, developed deep vein thrombosis after a rainy day inside with a games console... The potentially dangerous condition was caused because Dominic had his legs tucked under his body." A doctor interviewed suggested this was a relatively rare case, however: "The only risk factor we could find in this case was the fact that Dominic had sat on his legs for 10 hours playing computer games without moving... [however, it] doesn't mean that the government should be putting health warnings on PlayStations."

114 comments

  1. evolution by cowscows · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Evolution has provided the human body with an excellent defense against this sort of thing. It's called a bladder.


    How can you sit in one place for 10 hours?

    --

    One time I threw a brick at a duck.

    1. Re:evolution by CptChipJew · · Score: 2, Funny

      I read of an Everquest player that had his kids taken away because he was neglecting them to the point of starvation.

      A guy in Korea has an annuerism because he played Counterstrike for something like 72 hours straight.

      These people DO exist, though I've yet to meet one.

      --
      Vonal Declosion
    2. Re:evolution by et289807 · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's because they're dead!

    3. Re:evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not only is it called a bladder, it's also called "your limbs falling asleep".

      I'm sure people will use this as some sort of anti-videogame fodder, but it should be pointed out that DVT also occurs in people flying on airplanes, traveling in trains or buses for long trips, etc. It is also more likely (I believe) in those who are severely overweight.

      And yeah... how do you sit perfectly still for 10 hours? I'm extremely sedentary and I work at a computer for a living, but even I have to get up every few hours for a soda or a bite to eat or to take a dump or a leak - or at least to move around and reposition myself comfortably. I certainly wouldn't "sit on my legs" for 10 hours straight.

      Oh well. Another point to show that evolution exists, I guess!

    4. Re:evolution by Pulse_Instance · · Score: 1

      Well there are a couple ways to sit in one place, one friend of mine swore by the don't eat or drink anything method. Another friend of mine told me that they used a catheter. I don't know but either way I still couldn't sit in the same place for more than a couple hours.

    5. Re:evolution by dickiedoodles · · Score: 2, Funny

      How can you sit in one place for 10 hours?

      Slashdot Addiction (I really want that first post)

      --
      In Soviet Russia Slashdot cliches use you
    6. Re:evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This could happen to anyone who works at a computer for a living, of course. Videogaming gives you the same oppertunity for it to occur as, say, coding or being a managerial type that is tied to your computer/office. Even security guards in some places. Anyone who sits and never ever moves *and* has poor health to boot is going to be at risk. This article is a "BFD" piece.

    7. Re:evolution by DrJAKing · · Score: 1

      He survived; in this case natural selection has failed to remove some dodgy genes from the pool.

    8. Re:evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boom-tiss!

      You've been great folks.
      Don't forget to tip the waitress.
      I'll be here all week.

    9. Re:evolution by bigman2003 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Okay- sad stupid story..

      You mentioned 'security guards'. I was in the Army, and I was supposedly guarding something stupid (like a nuclear missle, or something like that). Well, I was sitting in a chair that was low, and deep (you see them on every Army base). Eventually, I figured that the Russkies wouldn't attack that day, and I fell asleep.

      A few hours (?) later, someone came to check on the security detail (me) and he walked up, and saw I was asleep. He started yelling at me- totally pissed off. I woke up, saw that it was a Major, and tried to snap to attention.

      Because I had been sleeping in the chair so long, and the type of chair cut off circulation to my legs, my muscles wouldn't work at all. I fell to the ground, and I couldn't stand up. I literally had to lay there while this guy started yelling and screaming at me, telling me I wasn't doing my job, etc. (It's pretty obvious to me, while I am laying down with useless legs...)

      After about 2 minutes of him screaming at me to get up, salute, stand at attention, etc. he finally figured out I had a real problem. So he called our medics, and they came to get me on a stretcher. Eventually they took me to the hospital for a checkup.

      Of course I had to go along with this now, and I told them that the last thing I remember was walking on my rounds, and I must have passed out or something. They kept me in the hospital for a day. I felt like a real jackass, but telling them that I was sleeping there so long that my legs became useless just wasn't a good option.

      --
      No reason to lie.
    10. Re:evolution by Alizarin+Erythrosin · · Score: 1

      Evolution has provided the human body with an excellent defense against this sort of thing. It's called a bladder.

      And human-kind has come up with an invention designed to foil evolution in this case. They're called diapers.

      --
      There are only 10 kinds of people in this world... those who understand binary and those who don't
    11. Re:evolution by wickedj · · Score: 1

      Be careful when you mention "evolution" in Georgia. Some people might not like it.

    12. Re:evolution by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "These people DO exist, though I've yet to meet one."

      Try going to the John Edwards show.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    13. Re:evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's John Edward.

      Unless you really do mean Sen. John Edwards. I suppose you could see him too. He does have a lot of insight into the dead (Howard Dean's campaign).

    14. Re:evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Okay- sad stupid story..

      Actually, it's pretty funny. What's sad is that I don't have any mod points.

    15. Re:evolution by Kent_Franken · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I developed deep vein thrombosis (DVT) after a flight from the US to the Ukraine. After it was repaired (months of taking anti-coagulation medicine dissolved it) I asked my Doctor what I could do to avoid this next time I take a long flight. He told me to drink lots of water. When I asked him if that was to keep my blood from getting too thick, he said it was just to make me get up every hour or so to go to the bathroom.

      So yes, if you don't want a DVT, get up and stretch your legs and do some deep knee bends once every hour or so.

    16. Re:evolution by Cipster · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thank goodness for smoking breaks. It's great for my cardiovascular system! Oh wait....Nevermind.

    17. Re:evolution by Mark+Pitman · · Score: 1

      That's a great story. I was in the Marines, so I can definitely relate. I was eating my lunch at my desk while reading this and almost ended up with pasta and sauce on my screen :)

    18. Re:evolution by nathanh · · Score: 1
      I'm extremely sedentary and I work at a computer for a living, but even I have to get up every few hours for a soda...

      May I suggest that as you're extremely sedentary that you stop drinking sodas. Drink water.

    19. Re:evolution by euxneks · · Score: 1

      Best story I've seen on slashdot in a long time. hahaha

      --
      in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni
    20. Re:evolution by Corpsesarecute · · Score: 1

      Not too much foiling here. I mean, can it honestly be comfortable to sit in one's excrement for any legnth of time? Hopefully even if the moron, kid rather, were to use such... I'd hope he'd have the decency, sense of disgust, or the ovewhelming stench to help convince him getting up to change said diaper would be a good idea.

  2. This guy deserves a darwin award by Tuxinatorium · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I mean, what kind of skinny-ass nerd wouldn't get up for food/soda at least once every 3 hours?

    1. Re:This guy deserves a darwin award by keot · · Score: 2, Funny

      to receive a darwin award you need to remove yourself from the genepool. this boy with the iron bladder still lives.

    2. Re:This guy deserves a darwin award by Neop2Lemus · · Score: 1
      the inability to reproduce effectively removes you from the Gene pool.

      Reference the [horrifying] chapter 8: Dangerous Liaisons: Unsafe Sex in the darwin Awards Volume I

      --
      Needle Nardle Noo
    3. Re:This guy deserves a darwin award by thelenm · · Score: 1

      That's why you include a mini-fridge and snack stockpile in your video game set up, of course. That way, you don't have to get up for anything except to pee. And if you have an huge bladder like this kid apparently does, you don't even have to do that.

      --
      Use Ctrl-C instead of ESC in Vim!
    4. Re:This guy deserves a darwin award by aiyo · · Score: 1

      I figured out that you can pee in the drink container and so you wont have to ever get up (wait unitl after you're done with your drink). Twist cap bottles are great for this. You can then toss it in the corner with the rest of your trash, or empty it in the sink later for reuse.

  3. What game? by redune45 · · Score: 3, Funny

    What I want to know is what game was it that kept him so hooked, and where can I get a copy?

    --
    redune.com: The World 3.2 Megapixels at a time
  4. The big question remains unanswered by lightspawn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Which game?

    1. Re:The big question remains unanswered by BTWR · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which game?

      Ironically, it was Dance Dance Revolution.

    2. Re:The big question remains unanswered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That 'un done cracked me up.

    3. Re:The big question remains unanswered by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      That was well done.

      --
      Vintage computer games and RPG books available. Email me if you're interested.
    4. Re:The big question remains unanswered by sydb · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I narrowly advoided spraying my laptop with wine!

      --
      Yours Sincerely, Michael.
    5. Re:The big question remains unanswered by bluGill · · Score: 1

      How do you spray the Wineows Emulators?

      Seriously, that is the first thing that poped into my mind when you said wine, and it took a while for the sentence to make sense.

  5. Senator Lieberman says... by FeetOfStinky · · Score: 1
    "We already knew video games were evil. Now we know that they can KILL YOU, too!"

    Won't somebody please think of the children?

    1. Re:Senator Lieberman says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He suffered a blood clot. Not death. RTFA.

      Also, this has nothing to do with gaming, really. The doctor clearly lays out DVT and why it occured:

      "If you fold the leg, you are basically folding the vein in the leg and causing the blood supply to stagnate. That is what might be causing the clot.

  6. bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is just biased reporting. You never read anything about the kid that missed the bus because he was playing video games before school, only to find out later the bus exploded when it crashed into a truckload of dynamite, or something.

    Or that kid that is saved the humiliation of asking that one cheerleader out to prom because him and his buddies are planning a Halo Party that saturday.

    Leave it to the media to only report on the bad things.

  7. not eligible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    he could only get a darwin award if that blood clot formed in his dick and somehow stopped it working.. now perhaps if you sat on your dick for 10 hours... :)

    1. Re:not eligible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can atest that this method does not work. I've had women on my dick for more than 10 hours at a time with little negative effects.

  8. Fittest and healthiest of children? by imitier · · Score: 4, Insightful

    His father told a newspaper: "This just proves that DVT can affect even the fittest and healthiest of children."
    Somehow I doubt that a kid who can, and does, put in 10 hours straight playing videogames is the "fittest and healthiest of children." My guess is that the 10-hours type of kid is something less than fit and healthy.

    1. Re:Fittest and healthiest of children? by Graelin · · Score: 1

      When a parent talks about their kid being "healthy" it can sometimes mean "porkchop." Funny how that works.

    2. Re:Fittest and healthiest of children? by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 2, Informative

      Somehow I doubt that a kid who can, and does, put in 10 hours straight playing videogames is the "fittest and healthiest of children." My guess is that the 10-hours type of kid is something less than fit and healthy.

      It did state that it was a rainy day. Once the kid is stuck indoors, he's much more likely to do something that involves little or no movement, especially after his parents have yelled at him a couple of times for running around in the house. He could've just as easily been working on a puzzle, playing card games, or reading a book.

      --
      -PainKilleR-[CE]
    3. Re:Fittest and healthiest of children? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or reading a book

      now that would have made for a good story.
      Book Kills Child! Stop reading this or you could be next!

  9. I wish... by benlinkknilneb · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wish I had his attention span... but unfortunately I can't even finish a

    --
    It must be Thursday... I never could get the hang of Thursdays.
  10. australia? by justforaday · · Score: 1

    wasn't there a case where an australian girl developed thrombosis from sitting on an international flight for too long? guess i should go googling...

    --
    I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
    1. Re:australia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know why it matters. DVT happens often on international flights. Who cares if it happened to an Australian? BTW, your shift key is broken.

    2. Re:australia? by 33degrees · · Score: 1

      There have been many cases of DVT developed on long haul flights, the person you're refering to is probably Emma Christoffersen, a British citizen who died shortly after arriving at Heathrow from a trip to Australia.

  11. Warnings on Playstations? by Jim+Hall · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The only risk factor we could find in this case was the fact that Dominic had sat on his legs for 10 hours playing computer games without moving... [however, it] doesn't mean that the government should be putting health warnings on PlayStations."

    No, we should be putting them on XBoxes, which is what he was playing at the time (as suggested by the XBox photo attached to the article.) So now we know the truth: Microsoft products are a health problem.

    1. Re:Warnings on Playstations? by bigman2003 · · Score: 1

      Aw crap- I was hoping to be the first to mention the Xbox, and try to put a positive spin on it.

      Like "See, the Xbox really does have good games- this little kid was glued to the TV for 10 hours!"

      Xbox- so good it hurts.

      Microsoft should use this in marketing campaigns. Maybe this is some really skinny kid missing teeth, with a bad haircut, and some jelly on his face.

      "Wonth I gotsh my Xbotchs, I dun do nuffin elsthe no more" Xbox- where would you have gone today?

      --
      No reason to lie.
    2. Re:Warnings on Playstations? by FlipmodePlaya · · Score: 1

      This whole incident reminds me of the kids Nintendo had to give special gloves too because they messed up their hands playing some N64 game. What was it, Mario Party? Perhaps SSB?

  12. Sitting competitions by FePe · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think this boy should attend a sitting competition. The world record is 167 days of sitting - on a small platform without a Playstation or similar entertainment devices.

    --
    "Until you do what you believe in, how do you know whether you believe in it or not?" -- Leo Tolstoy
    1. Re:Sitting competitions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously they disqualify anyone over 80. Try sitting until your pelvis bone is poking out.

  13. My god... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    My first reaction, which I'm not terribly proud of, was:

    "Ha ha! What a loser!"

  14. The Lesson by Flwyd · · Score: 3, Funny

    Whenever your character jumps, you should also jump. And here's a tip: if you want to make a really sharp left turn, jerk the controller to the left. It helps.

    --
    Ceci n'est pas une signature.
  15. I usually start to ache after playing games too by Corfitz · · Score: 5, Funny
    I don't have to play computer games for more than 15 minutes before my head and neck starts to hurt. It usually starts right after my wife tries to slap my headphone off while screaming "ARE YOU SITTING THERE AGAIN! HOW COME YOU CAN FIND THE TIME TO ..." (I usually stop listening around this point).

    Should I see a doctor?

    1. Re:I usually start to ache after playing games too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well... if she is upset because you can't find the time to please her womanly needs, than yes, maybe you should see a doctor. or at least check up on some of those spam offers.

    2. Re:I usually start to ache after playing games too by dswensen · · Score: 1

      No, but I would like to recommend a marriage counselor!

      Or perhaps a divorce lawyer.

  16. That's Nuttin! by mugnyte · · Score: 5, Funny


    Blood clot!? Pshaw! Walk it off soldier.

    You shoulda seen our palms after trying to complete the Activision Decathalon on the Atari 2600. Bloddy mess! Or the sore thumbs from combo-attacks in the early fight games. Like two yams, I tell you!

    I got over my ADD by having to wait for the tape to play the game into the C64. DungeonSomething took like 30 minutes. I treated that tape like the chalice in the Vatican. It slowly cranked while I shook like a drugged monkey watching it, screaming.

    I learned the subtle differences in repetative images by playing Pitfall! I could time scorpion steps in my sleep.

    When feeling lethargic, I put in Activision's Warlord. More epileptic-seizure-inducing flashes that a night at the Oscars. I think I'm still twitching.

    And we had NO pause buttons, wimps!

    Sheesh, kids got it so easy these days.

    1. Re:That's Nuttin! by Rallion · · Score: 1

      Mario Party's stick-spinning on the N64 is rough enough to involve special protective equipment!

    2. Re:That's Nuttin! by sahala · · Score: 1
      I got over my ADD by having to wait for the tape to play the game into the C64. DungeonSomething took like 30 minutes. I treated that tape like the chalice in the Vatican. It slowly cranked while I shook like a drugged monkey watching it, screaming.

      That's one of the funniest things I've heard all week.

    3. Re:That's Nuttin! by corpsiclex · · Score: 1

      dull week?

      --

      eBayDig 1s a typo saerch engien
  17. Surprised no one said it yet... by schoolsucks · · Score: 0

    Will someone think of the children!!

  18. In other news by pudge_lightyear · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In other news, runner dies of heart attack during morning jog.

    2 points.

    1. You can get hurt or die regardless of who you are and what you're doing.

    2. This is only a story becuase of 2 other reasons.
    2.a. Video-gamers are seen by the rest of society as lazy and dumb... so are naturally good targets.
    2.b. This doesn't happen often so it's news.

    1. Re:In other news by Flunitrazepam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well... running has uncountable health benefits, and playing games does not.

      Kind of an unfair analogy.

      Yea you can get hit by a church bingo bus jogging, but the chances that you are living a well adjusted and healthier life are certainly better than if you played video games for 10 hours.

      --
      1) Your analysis is based on bad assumptions so your result is way off. 2) You're a sick bastard for fucking a horse.
    2. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a story because it's interesting. I don't think 2a has anything to do with it. My favorate similar story is the news of all the hunters dying at the start of deer hunting season each year. Every one from heart attacks.

    3. Re:In other news by pudge_lightyear · · Score: 1

      Of course ( and no offense ) the same applies to deer hunters.

      2.a. deer-hunters are seen by the rest of society as lazy and dumb... so are naturally good targets.

    4. Re:In other news by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 1
      ...running has uncountable health benefits

      Like dying of a heart attack. I mean, healthy for society, of course.

      --
      True story.
    5. Re:In other news by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      Of course ( and no offense ) the same applies to deer hunters.

      2.a. deer-hunters are seen by the rest of society as lazy and dumb... so are naturally good targets.


      I wouldn't describe them as good targets -- after all, more deer hunters die each year from heart attacks than from being shot by fellow hunters!

      --
      "They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again incessantly without end ad infinitum" -- ibid.
  19. DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis) by limekiller4 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was working in a NOCC about two years back when I got a blood clot too. It was pretty !@#$ing painful, I thought I'd gotten a hairline fracture in my pelvis -- I was just walking down the street when bam!

    This resulted in a few days in the hospital (IIRC, the bill came out to something like $5k just for 2-3 days). After that, I was on fragmin which is injectable, and you do that yourself. In my case I found a spot around my bellbutton, pinch that area, then throw the needle in. Sounds terrible, wasn't that bad once you got the hang of stabbing yourself with a needle. Then six months of warfarin, a blood thinner. This is the prime ingredient in rat poison, I should mention, because it causes rats to just start bleeding to death.

    All in all it was an entirely unpleasant experience. You also have to return to some location every two weeks for them to take blood to make sure your warfarin dose does not need tweaking.

    I'm convinced that it was linked to my job at the NOCC but it wasn't until about a year later that I actually saw links coming out in the medical journals between sitting for long periods and DVT. Previously it was thought to occur mainly in long-distance flights. Also known as Second Class Syndrome (or something. =)

    It seems to me that if DVT is caused by sitting, cramped, for long durations, where you're sitting and where you're going really don't factor in. The connection between sitting for long periods and getting DVT seems to be pretty clear.

    Besides, it wouldn't suck to have OSHA mandate really awesome chairs for all of us, right? =D

    --
    My .02,
    Limekiller
    1. Re:DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis) by Alkaiser · · Score: 1

      So, to sum up...

      Not only did you get a blood clot in the pelvic area...

      You had to stab yourself with a needle for 6 months.

      Times like this make me glad I drink a little caffeine to keep the blood thin, and get my ass to the gym 2 or 3 times a week.

      I feel bad for you...just goes to show that there are unmentionable types of pain that I don't even know about yet...

      --
      Netjak.com independent reviews of domestic & import video ga
    2. Re:DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis) by limekiller4 · · Score: 1

      Close. I only had to stab myself with a needle for about a week or two. After that it was tablets.

      From what I was told, Fragmin has a sort of opposite effect when it begins. When you first start taking it, it actually makes your blood thicker. If you keep taking it, it makes your blood thinner. Then, once you get it in a zone, you continue with the warfarin and drop the Fragmin. The Fragmin is just there to get the viscosity where you need it asap and the warfarin is to wear down the clot. If that clot migrates to your lungs, ...not good. Really not good. Like ...Might Die kind of not good.

      But it was quite unpleasant. Though I was a caffeine junkie at the time. I had a coffee every 2 hours, and I was also lifting. I'm not sure what factors can mitigate this. I think the key is to just make sure that your legs are never pinched in any place.

      That'd be my advice, anyway.

      --
      My .02,
      Limekiller
    3. Re:DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis) by Rallion · · Score: 1

      My father works closely with OSHA.

      I'll mention it.

    4. Re:DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis) by TwistedGreen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This resulted in a few days in the hospital (IIRC, the bill came out to something like $5k just for 2-3 days).

      Well that's America for you: profit from the sick and injured.

    5. Re:DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis) by unclethursday · · Score: 1
      I was working in a NOCC about two years back when I got a blood clot too. It was pretty !@#$ing painful, I thought I'd gotten a hairline fracture in my pelvis -- I was just walking down the street when bam!

      I'm currently recovering from a DVT that ran all the way from just below my groin into my calf. I didn't notice the symptoms until it felt like my whole leg had cramped up, then 3 days later (still cramped) I was in the hospital after noticing my leg was 3x the size of the other.

      I had thought the bad cough and shortness of breath I had suffered a month before the symptoms of the leg showed up were from the onset of Bronchitis, it turns out I suffered a minor pulmonary embelism (minor being relative to the fact that I didn't just up and die from my lungs suddenly filling with blood from the piece of the clot that exploded there).

      After I was admitted to the hospital, it became impossible to walk on the leg due to pain for almost a week.

      This resulted in a few days in the hospital (IIRC, the bill came out to something like $5k just for 2-3 days).

      That's it? I was in the hospital for 5 and a half days, had the ultrasound on my leg which discovered the clot, an encephalogram (ultrasound of the heart), and two C.A.T. Scans (the first of the abdomen caught the bottom of my lungs and revealed I had suffered a pulmonary embelism, the second to see how bad it was). My bill was over $40k... thank the gods I have health insurance, and only had to pay $200 of it.

      After that, I was on fragmin which is injectable, and you do that yourself. In my case I found a spot around my bellbutton, pinch that area, then throw the needle in. Sounds terrible, wasn't that bad once you got the hang of stabbing yourself with a needle.

      I had to do that with Lovanox in the hospital. Not too bad after the second time stabbing myself.

      Then six months of warfarin, a blood thinner.

      I'm on Coumodin (sp) until at least May (the clot was discovered November 20).

      You also have to return to some location every two weeks for them to take blood to make sure your warfarin dose does not need tweaking.

      They've tweaked mine twice so far. Sent me home on 7.5 mg per day, then changed to 5 mg one day, 7.5 the next, now I'm back up to 7.5 mg a day. I just did my most recent PT/INR test this afternoon; so I'll find out by Monday if my dosage is changing again.

      I'm convinced that it was linked to my job at the NOCC but it wasn't until about a year later that I actually saw links coming out in the medical journals between sitting for long periods and DVT.

      My work is different, I'm standing for about 9 hours a day, barely moving while on a machine 30 feet up in the air. I think the lack of movement of my legs over long periods of time, even while standing, helped to cause my DVT.

      Sitting isn't the only way to get it, just not moving your leg for long periods of time, in any position can cause DVT of the leg.

      Of course, I'm sure the hours I spend in front of my PC at home didn't help matters any, either.

      Honestly, my doctors were stumped as to why I had this DVT. I'm only 29, yet this was a clot that had been growing for months. I had suffered no leg trauma, nor had I been on any lengthy car/train/plane rides (in August I flew to Atlanta, but that's 2 hours each way, and my flights were a week apart from each other), and all the genetic tests they did came back negative for genetic reasons for clotting (in fact, on my mother's side, there is a Type-8 deficiancy, which means my mother's side of the family has a hard time clotting).

      I'm back to work, wearing a compression stocking... but I didn't have the time to put it on on Wed. My leg, 8 hours into my shift, was again 3x the size of the other, so I left before my 9+ hour shift was over.

      The connection between sitting for long periods and getting DVT seems to be pretty clear.

      As I said, it seems that any prolonged position of the legs can cause this, not just sitting down. I stand all day at work, and I got one.

  20. How unfortunate by gmhowell · · Score: 1, Interesting

    How unfortunate... That he lived. For fucks sake, what a gawddamn loser.

    And there already are plenty of warnings on video game consoles. I can't open a manual or catalog for my GC without repeated references to seizures. The only question is whether or not they'll add 'don't sit on your dead ass' warnings before or after the inevitable lawsuit. Oh, UK teen. Maybe there won't be a lawsuit.

    --
    Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
    1. Re:How unfortunate by DrDoombender · · Score: 1

      Actually, I've seen game manuals and warnings that said, take breaks every couple of hours, stand up, walk around and do other things for a bit to keep from getting carple tunnel or the like. I'm amazed that he never did get up. Considering after about 30 minutes, my legs usually start to go numb.

    2. Re:How unfortunate by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      And there already are plenty of warnings on video game consoles.

      My dualshock owner's manual states that I should take a 15 minute break from playing every 30 minutes (approx, I don't remember the exact times).

      He ignored the safety warnings, even if he wasn't playing PS2, I'm sure the Xbox has similar lawerspeak in its manuals.

      Also, you are not supposed to put your dualshock on your head or limbs, nor to lay it on the floor during gameplay. And the first game I played when I got it was Metal Gear Solid, wich instructed me to break pretty much all these rules (especially the time constraint...man that was a fun game) : )

      --

      You can't take the sky from me...

    3. Re:How unfortunate by BTWR · · Score: 1

      Also, you are not supposed to put your dualshock on your head or limbs, nor to lay it on the floor during gameplay.

      So I can assume, then, that laying it on your genitals is a company-authorized use? :)

  21. Sitting on what? by gearheadsmp · · Score: 1

    Yes but what type of "chair" was he sitting on? Surely he'd have to relieve himself in some way . . . without sitting *in it* afterwards.

  22. just start smoking by schapman · · Score: 1

    no way i can sit for 10 hours in front of the screen, w/out having to get up and go walk outside for a smoke. And just think of all the exercise my lungs get w/ all the extra inhaling ;)

    --
    Wouldnt you like to be a pepper too?
  23. Healthy gaming by Psykechan · · Score: 2, Informative

    Every current console game has warnings in the manual for seizures and most have warnings for repetitve stress injuries. I can see blood clots being added to the list.

    Microsoft also recommends some healthy gaming methods that should be followed.

    I don't expect to see a surgeon general's warning on game boxes anytime soon.

    1. Re:Healthy gaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha ha... I like their recommendation on learning how to manage stress.

      They obviously haven't played Halo. I so wanted to choke the living shit out of the fucking Index Monitor. Annoying little prick. Sure, go ahead and take your sweet time opening the fucking door. I'll just wait here. And deal with the Flood. Again. No, I don't mind. Here's a thought: If you could teleport into the structure in the first place, why the fuck don't you just teleport me to the Index? Huh? What's that? Sorry, I CAN'T HEAR YOU ABOVE ALL THIS GUNFIRE. OH LOOK, I DIED. AGAIN. Did you just say, "What a pity."? FUCK YOU. Fuck YOU UP YOUR STUPID ASS. Motherfucker. Yeah, those Sentinels are doing a REAL FUCKING GOOD JOB. NICE. Fuckers.

  24. Merseyside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's a scouser... nuff said

  25. Bad parenting by Metal_Demon · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a shame that parents aren't teaching their kids proper gaming techniques.

    --
    Trust Your Technolust
    1. Re:Bad parenting by BTWR · · Score: 2, Funny

      Diagnosis? Bad Babysitting!

  26. I dunno by Pluvius · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think this guy's pretty effectively removed himself from the gene pool already.

    Rob

  27. Ok reality check. by AzraelKans · · Score: 1

    Let me see if I get this straight, you think is healthy for anyone to stay in a uncomfortable position for 10 straight hours? some common sense here people.

    --
    Go ahead MOD my day!
    More opinions here
  28. Gamer puts DDR pad on face, punches self to death. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

    (See subject.)

    Obviously we can afford more dangerous videogames until this kind of idiocy results in death.

    --

    There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
  29. New console feature? by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    A periodic brake reminder:

    "You lazy bummer, stop salivating about Lara and take a break"

    Or something about those paternalistic lines.

    --
    IANAL but write like a drunk one.
    1. Re:New console feature? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think Lara Croft has paternalistic lines? Weirdo.

  30. Health warnings... by Man+In+Black · · Score: 1

    [however, it] doesn't mean that the government should be putting health warnings on PlayStations

    No, but I'm sure it'll happen anyways.

    --
    -"One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -EH
    1. Re:Health warnings... by Absurd+Monkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      I say we just cut to the chase and start labeling absolutely everything with sweeping generalizations, like:

      "You could die."

      Banana: "You could die."
      Bicycle: "You could die."
      Bible: "You could die."

      Possible variations might include:

      Botox: "You should die."
      Bawls: "You will die, much sooner."

      --
      All rights reserved. All wrongs reversed.
  31. I'm glad the doctor didn't blame the game by Webapprentice · · Score: 1

    He wasn't jumping on the "blame games" bandwagon.

    There is some common sense left in the world.

  32. there are warnings! by andy_fish · · Score: 1

    doesn't mean that the government should be putting health warnings on PlayStations There ARE warnings. The safety warning says very clearly that for every hour of play, you should take a 15 minute break.

    --
    & I wish I knew the password to your heart . . . &
  33. The real health problem: Easily amused kids by mrseigen · · Score: 1

    I find it extremely hard to find a game nowadays I can be interested in for more than two or three hours before wandering off to look at something shiny or a red car or ... what was I talking about?

  34. funny........ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    now thats funny right there....I dont care who you are.......

  35. Why is the game even mentioned? by raygundan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously. This is a case of video games being guilty by association. The kid's DVT was caused by sitting, not by video games. People get this on long airplane flights on a regular basis. Reason? Not the flying-- it's the *sitting*.

    Oh well. Blaming it on the playstation makes a catchier headline.

    1. Re:Why is the game even mentioned? by Baby_with_a_nailgun · · Score: 1

      Oh well. Blaming it on the playstation makes a catchier headline.

      Especially as it was an Xbox.

    2. Re:Why is the game even mentioned? by raygundan · · Score: 1

      You sure that's not just a stock photo? I don't think they ever mention what console the kid was using. Or I'm just missing it.

  36. Coming Soon : Warnings built into the game? by MMaestro · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This doesn't exactly relate to the news report but, some games have messages or alerts that tells a player that he/she should stop playing. This may be a unique case but in the game Dungeon Keeper 2, if you set your computer clock to some insane time like 3 AM in the morning and play some of the messages were basicly along the lines of "Even dungeon keepers need to rest. Go to bed."

    Who knows? Maybe games like The Sims 2 will feature a similar messages or MMORPGs for players who remain active for long periods of time without being passive for X amount of time, presumably to eat and use the bathroom. (Loading times don't count)

    1. Re:Coming Soon : Warnings built into the game? by BTWR · · Score: 1

      yeah, like those "Winners don't do drugs! (Signed, FBI Director)" screens that were on all the early 90's arcade games (TMNT, Simpsons, etc)

  37. Black & White by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Once, after playing Black & White for 6 hours straight, the lil' demon helper came out of nowhere and said "Its gettin' kinda late boss, maybe you should take a rest". I hadn't noticed the time, realised it was late indeed and I had work the next day, saved and quit.

    That was cool, and apparently it was a life-saver!

    --

    You can't take the sky from me...

    1. Re:Black & White by StocDred · · Score: 1

      Dungeon Keeper 2 has a whole bunch of timed audio cues like that. I, however, ignored those warnings.

    2. Re:Black & White by corpsiclex · · Score: 1

      they should make something like this for /.!

      --

      eBayDig 1s a typo saerch engien
    3. Re:Black & White by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

      Heh. Which reminds me, there's only like two games that I've played that have real-time clock visible at least at some part of the UI: MechCommander and MOO3. More games should have on-screen clock! Maybe the addictive kind of games should have some sort of alarm system too...

  38. Wheeee by WTFmonkey · · Score: 4, Funny
    Q) How many kids with ADD does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

    A) Wanna go ride bikes?

  39. A Poem... by hirschma · · Score: 1

    Dominic was a dumb ass
    Who played too long with numb ass

    Thank you.

  40. Biased media again... by FortissimoWily · · Score: 1

    I've read the article, and I think it just goes to show how biased the media are that this got reported with the headline " Computer game teenager gets DVT ", rather than something like " Teenager gets DVT from sitting awkwardly for too long ", which is what really happened.
    Surely the kid felt his legs going numb? I know that when I was a kid, I would have tended to move or something if I noticed that my leg was falling asleep. I bet some loony pro-health group somewhere will get all over gaming's case 'cos of this, now. Well done, BBC. At the very least, it was good to see that the doctor who commented showed some common sense, even if he did fall prone to the annoying habit of using "Playstations" as a synonym for "games consoles". ;P

  41. Something I noticed by ReyTFox · · Score: 1

    As I grew up and got older I noticed that I could no longer tolerate such marathon stretches of sitting.

    Or maybe it was because I was sitting *more* often than when I was younger.

    In any case, when it bothered me I'd figure out a new position, usually lying down or something. Using the same one forever is really problematic unless you happen to be using a $1000 chair or a $15 exercise ball.

  42. Howabout a story about the cheerleader who was date raped by the jock of the school all because the really nice guy she liked didn't ask her out even though she had been hinting and peer presure meant she had to go to the prom?

    Come on. Tell the complete story.

    --

    MMO Quests are like orgasms:

    You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.

  43. I guess the dork thought... by AvantLegion · · Score: 1
    ... that the tingling was his Spider Sense?

  44. Hrmmm... by Chizzy · · Score: 1

    I thought about it for a while, and realized that I couldnt come up with anything witty or clever to say in this situation. I mean, really. The kid is just a moron.

  45. In my day... by holizz · · Score: 1

    We had to go over to the console to press the pause button. We also didn't spend 10 hours playing a game...

  46. We're not evolved to play computer games by fm6 · · Score: 1
    How can you sit in one place for 10 hours?
    One word: addiction. People, even addicts, tend to look as addiction as a simple failure of will. Whatever "will" is, it doesn't show up on an MRI. What does show up is your limbic system getting rewired so that gratifying your addiction overrides all other urges. Including eating, sleeping, and, yes, pissing.
  47. Warfarin (Re: DVT) by Cygnus17 · · Score: 1

    (Never thought I'd be participating in a convo about anti-coagulants on /., heh.)

    I've been on Coumadin (commercial brand for warfarin) for around 3 years now to treat atrial fibrillation, i.e. arrhythmia or a persistently irregular heartbeat. There is no real cure for it, but sometimes electroshock therapy can "trick" the heart into resuming normal operation. I'm not kidding, either... probably one of the only times you would have the electro-paddles slapped on your chest and not be practically dead -- you know, <cue ER moment>"Clear!"</cue>

    Of course, the only problem is that you have to have that done fairly soon after developing atrial fib, otherwise the chances of the shock treatment working plummet... for whatever reason, I'm not sure why. Something along the lines of breaking old habits.

    Who else here, after learning of warfarin's "other" uses, said, "Well, how about that"? I remember flipping through the dictionary and stumbling upon the "w"'s one day... obviously there's a huge difference in the amount they would shove down a rat's throat and what's contained in these little pink pills, but yeah, that's enough to give your whole day a sickly green glow.

    FYI, if you're taking warfarin, the biggest thing you should watch for is eating food rich in Vitamin K. Most green, leafy stuff: loaded.

    Good luck to the others in this thread.