I have personally been involved in (3) that I can remember class actions suits.
MS price fixing for windows and office. I received a voucher or certificate to buy more MS software. IIRC. Put it in the trash. Early 1990's
Music CDs price fixing . I received a voucher to buy more music CDs. IIRC. Put it in the trash. late 1990's or early 2000.
Chase Credit Card fees. I received a check for less than $20. From a card I held in the 1990's. Grudgingly cashed it. I thought about putting it in the trash on principle.
"We the people" never win in civil court. Only the attorneys.
I have never heard of a lawyer that doesn't track each and every billable hour (or part there of) to individual clients and cases. Sure looks like they are definitely trying to hide something.
I just don't understand. Maybe I need to read the patents and look @ the filing dates
Isn't there prior art? I remember using Intel Internet Phone back in 1996. It was VOIP but it used email addresses or IP addresses to connect and didn't go to landlines phone handsets, but really isn't it obviously the next step, that and use phone numbers instead if IPs (I used IPs). And it was free.
Why not just set the bios password and harddrive password on you laptop (new stuff with the security chip) which would make it of little value to all but 0.00001% of people for anything more than parts?
And what would stop someone from deleting the disk partitions and installing windows?
IE7 is also incompatable with quickbooks 2004 and above. With the other problems I've heard of I have to ask why in the world is this POS being forced on users as a high priority security update?
Intuit recommends uninstall. Just got that notice when I installed the latest QB update. Will Intuit learn from this? I've been reporting the bug of unable to run without power user (or higher user rights) in Betas for years.
If you don't have anything to hide, why should you mind if the NSA knows where you are at all times and who you are with/near/etc?/sarcasm off
I'll take one of the dumb phones thank you very much. And I don't have anything to hide, but I still believe in the Constitution, and believe it or not the Bill of Right IS part of the Constitution. Some of us have taken an oath to uphold and protect the Constitution, not the president, not the NSA, etc.
I have filed the waiver (basically cannot afford it) of financial hardship several times. Basically I couldn't afford to take a potentially long time unpaid off work .
Now let me get out the soapbox yet again. I don't understand the injustice system. The judge gets paid well, the bailiffs & cops get paid well, the lawyers get paid very well, but the jurors get lunch money. What is wrong with this picture?
If you want to get a jury of your peers, the jury MUST be paid the same wage they would otherwise earn. Without this you'll get nothing but juries which are composed of retirees, stay @ home parents or the unemployed.
Good luck trying to justify your high tech crime to people who know nothing about computers or intellectual property.
I been working 20+ years and I've never had a job which would pay my regular wage for a potentially long time. No thanks.
BTW I have mod points, but once again this needs to be said.
I've been in 3, that I can remember, class action suits.
(1) Chevy trucks (early 90's) with the gas tank mounted outside the frame. Just like the Pintos of the 70's BOOM! Result: Lawyers make millions, I get $1000 off the purchase of a new Chevy truck. No thanks.
(2) MS windows/office Price fixing scheme mid 90's Result: Lawyers make millions, I get something like $20 off the purchase of more MS software. No thanks.
(3) RIAA price fixing scheme more familiar to most Result: Lawyers make millions, I get $20 to buy more RIAA musak. No thanks.
I was NOT interested in any of these settlements because I decided I no longer wanted to their products, even for free. IMHO in class action suits, only the lawyers win.
Now imagine if MS had to fed off small claims suits from just 10% of buyers. Many corporations operate on a roughly 10% profit margin (MS is an exception to that). Think about it. Class action is merely a way to silence the voice of the complainants and appease the general public.
I'd take MS to court even if it COSTS ME $ to do it. It is a matter of principle. In case you didn't know, in my state you can include the cost of your time you've spent attempting to resolve the issue and lost wages attending court (but no attorney fees). So the only argument left is people too lazy to stand up for their fair use rights. I say F^$K em.
Also to the Best of my knowledge EULA click thrus don't hold much water (SCOTUS has yet to rule on it), especially when you cannot see what you've agreed to until you've entered into a purchase agreement (retail or wholesale). And opened software is usually non-returnable. Can you say pig in a poke?
Clue -----> I didn't say I was singlehandedly trying to cause the collapse of MS via a small claims action. But I have no doubt it would cost them more in judgment + attorneys + sending a rep to appear in court (or suffer a default judgment) than the value of that copy of Vista.
I am not just blowing smoke or trolling (like you are), I HAVE actually done this successfully before against another large corporation.
What happens when the motherboard fails (bad caps anyone?) and you must replace it with a "new device". What if that one pops too? Must buy Vista again? I think not. I'd see them in court first.
And what is a VM? Can the same guys who swore under oath that they didn't know what a browser is now define what a is VM?
I enforced normal users for all desktop users. Myself included. Some poorly designed apps like quickbooks still require Power User. Some other poorly developed apps still require admin e.g. UPS Ship.
I've looked @ the nonadmin site (yours????) before and I don't see the dll security setting you reference (to neuter IE).
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I have personally been involved in (3) that I can remember class actions suits.
MS price fixing for windows and office. I received a voucher or certificate to buy more MS software. IIRC. Put it in the trash. Early 1990's
Music CDs price fixing . I received a voucher to buy more music CDs. IIRC. Put it in the trash. late 1990's or early 2000.
Chase Credit Card fees. I received a check for less than $20. From a card I held in the 1990's. Grudgingly cashed it. I thought about putting it in the trash on principle.
"We the people" never win in civil court. Only the attorneys.
This is about the girl who committed suicide.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24670474/
And I agree. I think they should have taken a different angle in the prosecution.
I haven't checked recently, but I thought MS was going to remove XP from all distribution channels June 30th, 2008.
I remember "playing" with a program "Up Yours" that IIRC was responsible for crashing the whitehouse email server back when Clinton was at the helm.
:(
IIRC many of the preloaded open relay mail servers were *.mil
So looks like the more things change the more they stay the same.
I have never heard of a lawyer that doesn't track each and every billable hour (or part there of) to individual clients and cases. Sure looks like they are definitely trying to hide something.
I just don't understand. Maybe I need to read the patents and look @ the filing dates
Isn't there prior art? I remember using Intel Internet Phone back in 1996. It was VOIP but it used email addresses or IP addresses to connect and didn't go to landlines phone handsets, but really isn't it obviously the next step, that and use phone numbers instead if IPs (I used IPs). And it was free.
Why not just set the bios password and harddrive password on you laptop (new stuff with the security chip) which would make it of little value to all but 0.00001% of people for anything more than parts?
And what would stop someone from deleting the disk partitions and installing windows?
We need an equivalent law here in the US.
my bad.
All these disgraced politicians just seem to blend together. Not enuff coffee before posting.
The former Speaker of the House says free speech needs to be restricted.
You have got to be kidding! This guy who is headed for jail is still trying to subvert the Constitution!
Que the in soviet Russia jokes now.
I had to re-read the title a number of times. I was sure it should have read, "NSA reading your postal mail, your rights online".
sorry for the misspellings. I wuz/am drunk when writing this. Today was like winning the reverse lottry for me :^(
Worst day of my life easily.
Why has there been now news of Balmer's delusions until now?????
If was posted @ http://www.wservernews.com/ back on Friday?????
Here we go again. SCO part II only this time it a direct attack. Not a proxy attack.
Novell is a pawn in the action.
>Just imagine the screams if Microsoft had it.
We'd all have to pay $699 per wireless device (or was that per CPU)?
IE7 is also incompatable with quickbooks 2004 and above. With the other problems I've heard of I have to ask why in the world is this POS being forced on users as a high priority security update?
Intuit recommends uninstall. Just got that notice when I installed the latest QB update. Will Intuit learn from this? I've been reporting the bug of unable to run without power user (or higher user rights) in Betas for years.
/sarcasm on
/sarcasm off
If you don't have anything to hide, why should you mind if the NSA knows where you are at all times and who you are with/near/etc?
I'll take one of the dumb phones thank you very much. And I don't have anything to hide, but I still believe in the Constitution, and believe it or not the Bill of Right IS part of the Constitution. Some of us have taken an oath to uphold and protect the Constitution, not the president, not the NSA, etc.
We already have something akin to that. I call it the "flea bargain".
Which I personally believe is a violation of due process.
I have filed the waiver (basically cannot afford it) of financial hardship several times. Basically I couldn't afford to take a potentially long time unpaid off work .
Now let me get out the soapbox yet again. I don't understand the injustice system. The judge gets paid well, the bailiffs & cops get paid well, the lawyers get paid very well, but the jurors get lunch money. What is wrong with this picture?
If you want to get a jury of your peers, the jury MUST be paid the same wage they would otherwise earn. Without this you'll get nothing but juries which are composed of retirees, stay @ home parents or the unemployed.
Good luck trying to justify your high tech crime to people who know nothing about computers or intellectual property.
I been working 20+ years and I've never had a job which would pay my regular wage for a potentially long time. No thanks.
BTW I have mod points, but once again this needs to be said.
I've been in 3, that I can remember, class action suits.
(1) Chevy trucks (early 90's) with the gas tank mounted outside the frame. Just like the Pintos of the 70's BOOM!
Result: Lawyers make millions, I get $1000 off the purchase of a new Chevy truck. No thanks.
(2) MS windows/office Price fixing scheme mid 90's
Result: Lawyers make millions, I get something like $20 off the purchase of more MS software. No thanks.
(3) RIAA price fixing scheme more familiar to most
Result: Lawyers make millions, I get $20 to buy more RIAA musak. No thanks.
I was NOT interested in any of these settlements because I decided I no longer wanted to their products, even for free. IMHO in class action suits, only the lawyers win.
Now imagine if MS had to fed off small claims suits from just 10% of buyers. Many corporations operate on a roughly 10% profit margin (MS is an exception to that). Think about it. Class action is merely a way to silence the voice of the complainants and appease the general public.
I'd take MS to court even if it COSTS ME $ to do it. It is a matter of principle. In case you didn't know, in my state you can include the cost of your time you've spent attempting to resolve the issue and lost wages attending court (but no attorney fees). So the only argument left is people too lazy to stand up for their fair use rights. I say F^$K em.
Also to the Best of my knowledge EULA click thrus don't hold much water (SCOTUS has yet to rule on it), especially when you cannot see what you've agreed to until you've entered into a purchase agreement (retail or wholesale). And opened software is usually non-returnable. Can you say pig in a poke?
Clue -----> I didn't say I was singlehandedly trying to cause the collapse of MS via a small claims action. But I have no doubt it would cost them more in judgment + attorneys + sending a rep to appear in court (or suffer a default judgment) than the value of that copy of Vista.
I am not just blowing smoke or trolling (like you are), I HAVE actually done this successfully before against another large corporation.
What happens when the motherboard fails (bad caps anyone?) and you must replace it with a "new device". What if that one pops too? Must buy Vista again? I think not. I'd see them in court first.
And what is a VM? Can the same guys who swore under oath that they didn't know what a browser is now define what a is VM?
I have mod pts. But this just had to be said.
I enforced normal users for all desktop users. Myself included. Some poorly designed apps like quickbooks still require Power User. Some other poorly developed apps still require admin e.g. UPS Ship.
I've looked @ the nonadmin site (yours????) before and I don't see the dll security setting you reference (to neuter IE).
Would you mind spoon feeding me?
Thanks,
At first I thought the title was "GeForce 7950 GT Launches With MASSIVE Cooling".
Maybe this is an example of free market forces at work.
One customer wants a secure, hardened, auditable, time proven machine with a user verifiable paper trail.
The other doesn't need any of those features.
Therefore two entirely disparate product lines.
One is designed to protect $.
The other is designed to protect democracy.
Just maybe they weren't done pre-loading votes or pre-loading negatives votes yet, so the memory cards were not delivered on time?
Or maybe the vote flipping hack to insure that a specific candidate won was not finished on time?