I think (and will not substantiate with evidence, as is customary on this Internet thing) that the biggest problem with arguments like those mentioned in TFA is purpose and perspective. It has long been the case that the previous generation doesn't understand the current or next generation simply because they somehow forget that just a few years back it was they who were misunderstand by their previous generation. Age tends to lock us into our own perspectives, and we forget to look for others. I for one have always hated reading the "classics" because they lack relevance and tend to contain language that was long lost - yet society seems to have continued without "thee" "thy" etc.
I remember in senior English in high school reading passages from Beowulf, then trying to read the original text (in English, but in Old or Middle English). I wonder if the people in those times felt the youngsters were too radical and forgetting their heritage. Language is meant to allow for communication between people and cultures (and times, really). So long as we're able to communicate, and do so effectively, we're good.
That said, I think the more important dilemna is not youth's rejection of classical education for video games, but the lack of communication that exists between many youth and their parents/grandparents/etc. In most cases, it's not the youth's fault.
TFA used euros because it was written from a European perspective. It's generally customary to quote price in the local currency of the audience you are writing for.
Ah. And that's why I'm an engineer and not a lawyer. I would have thought granting some legal document meant you thought it was valid to do so. Stupid patent system.
Eh, in Apple's case, I expect them to dodge this whole mess by redeveloping the whole interface for a full video iPod. Click-wheel will give way to a touch-screen, and the interface will look like Front Row - which, yes, looks like the iPod interface in ways, but just goes to show how the look of a hierarchical interface is too common to patent (or whatever the legal standard is that says you can't patent the obvious).
Well, maybe. Creative could argue that this costs them plenty in their core business, since iPod sales are obviously crushing Zens. The Court said you should consider how much it is going to harm the company requesting the injunction to continue the alleged infringing to continue. It costs Creative plenty to wait and let Apple continue selling iPods for however long it takes the trial to occur.
Of course, this assumes the courts will even consider Creative's suit valid, but having been granted a patent implies validity. Then again, Apple legal has had a couple of successes lately (TigerDirect, Apple Corps, etc) with trademark disputes, so we'll see how far this goes.
Isn't this technically possible via FireWire already?
I think so, but of course I'm not sure how easy for the masses this is. But the logical next step I was referring to is if (and it might be a big if) Apple gets into the cell phone and possibly the MVNO (Mobile Virtual Network Operator or something, someone who leases time on someone else's cell network) business that they could cut out the need for a PC or other device to capture the music from some central place and just have it download directly via an EV-DO or similar network. Right now no matter how it gets to your iPod you need a PC to rip, download, etc. the music at some point in the process.
At the risk of continuing a semantics war, my biggest point in saying what I did above is that "personal computer" is such a nebulous term these days (not the pseudo-brand-name PC, the idea of what is a box with computing chips in it). TFA is stating simply that it won't matter who has the best "PC" soon when the vast majority of consumers go to a gadget computing experience - if some haven't already. If the newest "sorta kinda maybe Apple's going to do this" rumor is true, and it sounds plausible, you won't even need a PC to download music to your iPod. That's a world where a lot of people don't need a dozen different components to set up their buying experience, and the end-to-end company will dominate.
80%+ is the number I've seen for hard drive based players, with the nano and shuffle taking a good chunk of the flash based market (somethign over 50%, but I can't find recent numbers).
But very well put. I personally am I life-long PC gamer who has been using a PowerBook G4 as my primary "work/school" computer for the past two years. It's all about use, not power or performance or whatever. PCs are better for use with games, since most games are developed for PC then a year or so later ported to Mac (if you're lucky). Macs are better for use if you like a simple, clean interface for media (music, video, and visual arts). Each do the other, just not quite as well. Would I install OS X on my custom-built PC if Apple supported it? Sure, that's what the two extra 160GB hard drives are for. But it could never replace Windows totally (save for built-in virtualization at near-native or native speeds) for Battlefield 2, Steam, etc.
I totally agree - you'd think a crowd like/. would understand the importance of "the best of both worlds"
I don't know, 80%+ is a pretty good chunk of market share. Especially when that's the market (iPods) that leads to very high margins, customer loyalty, and culture icon status, not the other market where there a half dozen big players at between 10% and 30% market share.
modern Mac's are a bog standard Personal Computer (that comes with a nice box & even nicer software)
The "dumb" ones are those that hold on to the notion that the worth of a computer is solely in its hardware. That "even nicer software" is what seperates the two - the consumer on average doesn't really care much about how well the hardware can perform, he/she just cares what he/she can do with the computer (other than overclock it, give it shiny lights, or add four of those latest extreme ultra super graphics cards for $500 each).
Credit for torrenting? Why would Apple give away iTunes music just for people to run torrents? Well, maybe because those torrents will serve up iTunes movies. Dedicated bandwidth has been the greatest obstacle to getting a full iTunes HD movie store (well, that and the movie companies' agreement, but if the tech is there and economical, the content will follow).
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All the Intel Mac Mini sitting next to my HDTV needs is access to a high-res store of movies and TV shows through the Front Row interface, and I'll be set. And subscription or a la carte, I really don't care.
Well if you put it that way, of course it'll be true. This is a common mistake with the assignment operator. What you meant to say was "Music Downloads == Expensive Concerts?" This will test to see if the statement is true, then return.
You sir, deserve a +5 Nice (or Chivalrous, take your pick).
Most would just throw a fit (like I did, mostly because I was about to sit through a ridiculously boring finance graduate course). You provided actual helpful information. We need more of you around here.
It'll run in Linux, not run Linux. Geez. If you're going to use a tired, old Slashdot joke, at least get it right.
Also, link an article that actually says something useful. This looks like a press release. It doesn't give any details as to how, where, or even when (and if I had a dollar for every time something on Slashdot was "announced" without a market date and never actually was released, well, I'd buy Slashdot...or something).
Spoken like a true youth!
Spoken like a true not-youth! cmburns69, how fitting!
Wondered if anyone would catch that. But yeah, I'm 23, so count me as a youth.
I think (and will not substantiate with evidence, as is customary on this Internet thing) that the biggest problem with arguments like those mentioned in TFA is purpose and perspective. It has long been the case that the previous generation doesn't understand the current or next generation simply because they somehow forget that just a few years back it was they who were misunderstand by their previous generation. Age tends to lock us into our own perspectives, and we forget to look for others. I for one have always hated reading the "classics" because they lack relevance and tend to contain language that was long lost - yet society seems to have continued without "thee" "thy" etc.
I remember in senior English in high school reading passages from Beowulf, then trying to read the original text (in English, but in Old or Middle English). I wonder if the people in those times felt the youngsters were too radical and forgetting their heritage. Language is meant to allow for communication between people and cultures (and times, really). So long as we're able to communicate, and do so effectively, we're good.
That said, I think the more important dilemna is not youth's rejection of classical education for video games, but the lack of communication that exists between many youth and their parents/grandparents/etc. In most cases, it's not the youth's fault.
Actually, it's the International Tokamak Experimental Reactor . It'll service no one with power (just science), and is being paid for by a lot of different countries.
TFA used euros because it was written from a European perspective. It's generally customary to quote price in the local currency of the audience you are writing for.
Ah. And that's why I'm an engineer and not a lawyer. I would have thought granting some legal document meant you thought it was valid to do so. Stupid patent system.
Eh, in Apple's case, I expect them to dodge this whole mess by redeveloping the whole interface for a full video iPod. Click-wheel will give way to a touch-screen, and the interface will look like Front Row - which, yes, looks like the iPod interface in ways, but just goes to show how the look of a hierarchical interface is too common to patent (or whatever the legal standard is that says you can't patent the obvious).
Well, maybe. Creative could argue that this costs them plenty in their core business, since iPod sales are obviously crushing Zens. The Court said you should consider how much it is going to harm the company requesting the injunction to continue the alleged infringing to continue. It costs Creative plenty to wait and let Apple continue selling iPods for however long it takes the trial to occur.
Of course, this assumes the courts will even consider Creative's suit valid, but having been granted a patent implies validity. Then again, Apple legal has had a couple of successes lately (TigerDirect, Apple Corps, etc) with trademark disputes, so we'll see how far this goes.
Ah come on! The movie doesn't come out in the States until Friday. Where's your spoiler warning?
Isn't this technically possible via FireWire already?
I think so, but of course I'm not sure how easy for the masses this is. But the logical next step I was referring to is if (and it might be a big if) Apple gets into the cell phone and possibly the MVNO (Mobile Virtual Network Operator or something, someone who leases time on someone else's cell network) business that they could cut out the need for a PC or other device to capture the music from some central place and just have it download directly via an EV-DO or similar network. Right now no matter how it gets to your iPod you need a PC to rip, download, etc. the music at some point in the process.
At the risk of continuing a semantics war, my biggest point in saying what I did above is that "personal computer" is such a nebulous term these days (not the pseudo-brand-name PC, the idea of what is a box with computing chips in it). TFA is stating simply that it won't matter who has the best "PC" soon when the vast majority of consumers go to a gadget computing experience - if some haven't already. If the newest "sorta kinda maybe Apple's going to do this" rumor is true, and it sounds plausible, you won't even need a PC to download music to your iPod. That's a world where a lot of people don't need a dozen different components to set up their buying experience, and the end-to-end company will dominate.
80%+ is the number I've seen for hard drive based players, with the nano and shuffle taking a good chunk of the flash based market (somethign over 50%, but I can't find recent numbers).
/. would understand the importance of "the best of both worlds"
But very well put. I personally am I life-long PC gamer who has been using a PowerBook G4 as my primary "work/school" computer for the past two years. It's all about use, not power or performance or whatever. PCs are better for use with games, since most games are developed for PC then a year or so later ported to Mac (if you're lucky). Macs are better for use if you like a simple, clean interface for media (music, video, and visual arts). Each do the other, just not quite as well. Would I install OS X on my custom-built PC if Apple supported it? Sure, that's what the two extra 160GB hard drives are for. But it could never replace Windows totally (save for built-in virtualization at near-native or native speeds) for Battlefield 2, Steam, etc.
I totally agree - you'd think a crowd like
I don't know, 80%+ is a pretty good chunk of market share. Especially when that's the market (iPods) that leads to very high margins, customer loyalty, and culture icon status, not the other market where there a half dozen big players at between 10% and 30% market share.
In other news, the ESRB announced today that it had changed its rating for MIT from 'N' for 'Nerds' to 'MN' for 'Mature Nerds.'
but locking out Linux would be corporate suicide.
I don't think Apple would be too happy either.
modern Mac's are a bog standard Personal Computer (that comes with a nice box & even nicer software)
The "dumb" ones are those that hold on to the notion that the worth of a computer is solely in its hardware. That "even nicer software" is what seperates the two - the consumer on average doesn't really care much about how well the hardware can perform, he/she just cares what he/she can do with the computer (other than overclock it, give it shiny lights, or add four of those latest extreme ultra super graphics cards for $500 each).
Credit for torrenting? Why would Apple give away iTunes music just for people to run torrents? Well, maybe because those torrents will serve up iTunes movies. Dedicated bandwidth has been the greatest obstacle to getting a full iTunes HD movie store (well, that and the movie companies' agreement, but if the tech is there and economical, the content will follow).
1864 Mumps: A little fruity, but solid, bold taste. Goes well with chicken (pox).
No no no no no...Just try and convince more of your friends to do science or engineering. It's a lack of supply, not a lack of demand. :)
Only the lucky ones.
;)
The rest get too excited about majoring in some science or engineering in college and end up at schools without females, let alone sex
...for my alma mater.
Cleversafe's headquarters are located at the new University Technology Park at IIT...no, not that IIT, this one.
...is that covered under the warranty?
All the Intel Mac Mini sitting next to my HDTV needs is access to a high-res store of movies and TV shows through the Front Row interface, and I'll be set. And subscription or a la carte, I really don't care.
Music Downloads = Expensive Concerts?
Well if you put it that way, of course it'll be true. This is a common mistake with the assignment operator. What you meant to say was "Music Downloads == Expensive Concerts?" This will test to see if the statement is true, then return.
spend their entire day shooting off their mouths on forums like Tom's Hardware
Or Slashdot.
You sir, deserve a +5 Nice (or Chivalrous, take your pick).
Most would just throw a fit (like I did, mostly because I was about to sit through a ridiculously boring finance graduate course). You provided actual helpful information. We need more of you around here.
Also, link an article that actually says something useful. This looks like a press release. It doesn't give any details as to how, where, or even when (and if I had a dollar for every time something on Slashdot was "announced" without a market date and never actually was released, well, I'd buy Slashdot...or something).
Possibly. It'd be the first exploit that required soul-sucking registration to activate it.