There's a poor family I know that buys a lot of their food from ultra-discount stores like Big Lots. They got some Meow Mix for their cat and inside was a contest game piece. When opened, the game piece played a funny version of the Meow Mix song and it had a sound effect of applause.
Turned out they won the grand prize in a contest. Their cat would appear on the cover of a big time cat magazine and they'd get to fly out (I think it was LA they got to go to) to see it happen.
The only problem is that the contest had been over for months. It was too late to claim the prize. That's what happens when you buy food that's been on the shelf for years at Big Lots, folks.
Ah well, they got a fun toy at least. We all took turns playing with the game piece, which on the inside was just a simple electronic circuit on a AAA battery that played the Meow Mix theme (and clapped) on demand.
It's true that the majority of Americans lack a passport, but it's also true that a majority will never leave the country in their lives. Many will proudly tell you they don't need to, because they already live in the greatest place on earth.
Ah, spoken like someone truly not from Michigan. ^_~
In Detroit, Windsor is part of the Metro area. Going there is as common as going to any other suburb. Moreover, all the 19 and 20 year olds go to Canada to drink legally, as the age of majority in Ontario is 19.
So if the entire population of Metro Detroit gets a passport (6 million people on both sides of the border) that's a lot of people.
88.7 fm: Based outta Windsor, plays mostly death metal and extreme alternative stuff. Grates on my nerves after a while.
Eh? Death metal? *laughs out loud* I've never heard *any* metal on that station in my life! Just the opposite! They play "light alternative" which has been getting lighter and more high-pitched with every year. If you want some death metal check out Cannibal Corpse. Not my cup of tea, but some people are into it.
93.5 fm: Lite rock from Windsor with a definitely Canadian bent, but too sugary-sweet for my own personal tastes. 8 years ago it was all I listened to as they had a great alternative rock format. Fell in love with Sarah McLachlan all thanks to 93.5.
Only on the East side. Out West you get a station I used to be the midnight DJ at, WHMI-FM out of Howell. They play Classic Hits, which includes anything you can think of. I played Fleetwood Mac and Pink Floyd to Elton John to Nirvana there. How odd.
95.5 fm: More Top 40/Rap buffoon music. Perfect if you're a 14-y/o wigger.
Detroit's own NERD comes to mind as a decent group. Don't forget that Rock & Roll originated with black artists. A lot of whites hated Rock & Roll and even said it was evil on the basis of where it came from. I'd hate to be a modern version of one of those prejudiced people.
101.1 fm: Last of a dying breed, still an album-oriented rock station trying to preserve the sound of the 70's. Home to Drew & Mike, Arthur Penhallow (one of the oldest DJs still on Detroit radio after 30+ years), and Doug Podell. Only listen occasionally as they try too hard to be hard rockin'.
Depends on what you mean about "sound of the 70's". They play rock, and the only time for the most part they really play older stuff from the 60's or 70's (or lately, the 80's) is during the afternoon drive. Otherwise it's all new American rock. I'd listen to these guys but I'm more into the less over-produced underground stuff out there, especially from Europe. These stations are a dime a dozen, though. An example of an identical station is WEBN in Cincinatti.
So, yes, overall, I got your point. Radio in Detroit sucks. You know what, though? I think that's true nationwide. If you've ever read R&R (Radio & Records) magazine, the magazine of the radio industry, you'd know there's only a handful of formats that stations pick from. Hell, you've probably figured that one out on your own. Detroit is lucky because of it's proximity to Canada. 89X/88.7 doesn't fit any "official" American formats, so you'll really hear some unique stuff. An Alternative Rock station in any other market sounds quite different, and IMHO a whole lot worse. But, hey, I have an iPod. I haven't listened to the radio in years, save for news.
Another note, all you kids thinking your hero DJ makes a gazillion dollars... Well, they don't. Most DJs make around $10 an hour. As computers provide more and more automation, more are being laid off. Most DJs live in poverty. Hence why I'm not going into radio as a career. It's fun, but not something to support a family on.
if it was not for the conventions there almost every stinking day the town would dry up or turn into a subdivision for detroitites looking for a $500,000+ home right on the highway. (Note to non michigan people. we have LOTS of the "stupid rich" here. paying huge sums to build their GIANT homes right on the highway so they can hear and smell those disel trucks...)
The Detroit post-riot White Flight (TM) continues... Now Brighton is the next Novi. Novi is too big and overdeveloped, so all the rich Republicans are in Brighton now.
The thing is, Brighton is almost halfway between Detroit and Lansing. The next town over is Howell, which has a Lansing area code, gets the Lansing TV stations, and receives the Lansing State Journal newspaper. The local college? It's Lansing Community College.
So my question is, once Brighton is as overdeveloped as Novi because of these rich fuckwits, where are they all going to go?
Bull. I'd rather shoot myself than enjoy Novi's "nightlife". I club in Downtown Detroit, and nowhere else (unless I'm in another major city). Novi is for yuppie asshats that blow $120,000+ on Hummers just to look "cool".
It seems that States want it both ways - they like to get nicotine addiction classified as a handicap (MN) in order to pursue tobacco companies to get huge settlements, then they turn around and enact outrageous, disporportionate taxes on this same addiction.
I live in Michigan, and you're right on.
The Michigan government started a program some time ago to use most of the money from tobacco settlements for... Take a guess:
Was it for health programs for smokers? To try and get them to quit?
Nope, it was $2500 college scholarships for middle and high school students that do well on state standardized testing!
It makes perfect sense to me. Don't trust the government with your money, or with anyone else's, for that matter.
After reading a lot of replies I see a general theme.
Most people seem to think the DS is for kids. It isn't. Nintendo has stated clearly that the Game Boy Advance is for the market of the original Game Boy (6 to 25 years old or so) and that the DS is for the young adults that had the original Game Boy and are grown up now. The DS is intended for a 16 to 40 market. It's not for kids.
Nintendo has also previously announced plans to launch a VoIP service for the DS that will only work with other Nintendo DS units. I think this was even covered on Slashdot.
To the people saying 12 year olds don't need cell phones, I have to say this:
I was using experimental (read: pre-Newton and Newton-era but not the Newton itself) PDAs when I was as young as 12. I loved them. They helped me in school immensely and kept me entertained, as well. I loved communications equipment at that age, and when I wasn't busy hacking the local BBS I was often on the CB radio with my buddies. If we had cell phones, we would have used those.
There were plenty of times I was out in the middle of the woods or in town with friends that I'm sure my parents would have loved to get ahold of me. I know that when I have kids I will enjoy the piece of mind that comes from knowing you can get ahold of them while they're out playing and having fun.
Yes, I'll still ask them where they're going, but you simply can't lock your 12 year old in the house 24/7. So, a cell phone is often the best thing you can do.
Frankly, I'd rather it be a cell phone that I can call to/ask/ my kids where they are rather than a GPS device of some sort like many parents want to use these days.
From what I hear from parents I know, there are few kids these days in middle school or high school that/don't/ have cell phones already!...and why shouldn't they have phones? PDAs?
Isn't giving a kid a piece of technology and teaching them how to use it responsibly a GOOD thing?
If you think the answer is no, I'd like to say you have a rather anti-Slashdot (or simply anti-hacker) mentality.
There were plenty of times I'd take a long hike in the woods and sit down in the middle of the woods on a log and program on my PDA for a few hours. Hey, it might of been strange, but I was active physically and I was learning, too. I got a good programming job fresh out of high school when a lot of my peers were still at fast food jobs, so it couldn't have been all bad.
Many of my friends and myself tend to do poorly in a classroom environment but do extremely well when tested.
I know plenty of people with MENSA-level IQ that are like this, so it would seem to disprove the theory stated above. They all (including myself) have been diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder at some point while growing up.
I've seen this argument on several Mac mini related threads lately.
My theory is that it is a new troll. The "Macs aren't cheap enough" troll cannot possibly hold a candle anymore to the $499 mini's price tag. OS X is more powerful than XP Pro, and with the other software (iPhoto = Adobe Photo Album, etc.) it's got at least $499 worth of software on board.
Macs have supported right-click mice since Jobs came back in 1998 (or was it '97?), or you can hold control and click to get the same effect with the Apple one-button mouse. Since you supply the mouse when you buy a mini, the tired mouse argument is dead as well.
So now the people that fight for the glory of the outdated x86 architecture, especially the Windows users, feel obligated to call the mini "not a real computer" because it's a Mac or it's not powerful enough (1.25 GHz G4?! Not powerful @ $499?!) or they don't understand the GUI, etc.
It's the new Mac troll. Guess we need to get used to it, since it's all we'll hear on Mac threads when browsed at -1 for a long, long while.
I'm certain that as soon as midnight hit and and the lights stayed on, on January the 1st, 2000, that the media went, "Oh, crap! People aren't going to want to hear about this anymore!", and that was the end of it.
However, buried in all the "people-are-sick-of-Y2K since-nothing-happened" hoopla, I remember a story about a nuclear power plant in one of the USA that would have had some sort of accident had they not had all the extra staff handy.
I was in my last year of high school, and the computerized clocks failed. At first they didn't work at all, then someone managed to get the machine rebooted. The date displayed was humorous.
"January 1st, 10100"
Now, anyone knowing anything about programming sees what happened:
Month + Day + "19" + Year = Date If Month = December And Day = 31 And Time > Midnight Then Year = Year + 1
After many a mess with Sprint, and an unwillingness to use any of the other providers, I have been considering using VoIP on a PDA/Cell Phone for some time now.
The idea is that I would get something like the MDA/XDA III which is a Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Pocket PC that also has a GSM phone radio in it, and install a prepay card for when I need to make a call and there is no Wi-Fi around.
I don't know how it is in your neck of the woods, but where I live, even the local hick bar advertises that they have Wi-Fi now. I rarely go somewhere where there is no open Wi-Fi signal.
I'm going to start by testing using Wi-Fi on my laptop before I get the PDA.
Does who has done this, use VoIP on a PDA like it's a cell phone, have any tips?
Since most cell phone companies let you add a phone to a family plan for only $10 a month, most parents have their kids on the plan. Many lock the phone so it can only call Mom, Dad, and maybe a relative like Grandma.
This is more of an electronic tether than anything, unfortunately.
It is quite the norm, though, in not just the USA but most first world nations.
Turns out that the guy my business partner knew and this dude were totally different people. Oops. What they got busted for was basically the same thing, and they're from the same area. What an odd coincidence. Send me an e-mail if you have an questions.
My business partner learned hacking and coding from this guy when the guy was legit.
What he did I think any of us on Slashdot could do. It doesn't require a great deal of skill or 31337N355.
This is in the "Your Rights Online" section because he should be treated the same as someone who thirty years ago stole file cabinets of data about people at a large chain's headquarters. If the data is the same then there is no need for changing the sentence.
That said, the young man did wrong and will get what he deserves. He was a little bit bright and could surely have come up with a better scheme than this. I know I could, but I and his former "student" are devoting our time to a legit business.
Please excuse the shameless plug. We may be legit, but we're certainly not wealthy. Starting a company is hard work. 60+ hour workweeks, paying yourself less than minimum wage for a year or more... No wonder Mr. Salcedo chose the "easy way out".
It's time for the other half of this rumor to come true. I'd love to see Apple and IBM do the impossible and join forces.
Linux and BSD from major companies, with the potential to unite the hippies and the businessmen. The programmers and the grandfathers (and the grandfathers who happen to be programmers).
This could be a beautiful thing. Let's just hope it isn't simply another case of an American company selling out to the Reds. Let's face it, it will be much more fun if it's a case of two of our favorite companies uniting to defeat the evil that is Microsoft.
I'm not sure that geeks and goths are all that opposite.
As a Goth that owns a software company, I have no idea as to what you could be talking about. I think there is no way a Goth could ever be a Geek, or vice versa. */sarcasm*
In other news, looks like I'm going to have to finally get a Suicide Girls subscription... With all this/. traffic, they're going to go bankrupt. C'mon everyone, let's help them out!:-D
Windows Automotive was announced in 2002, if not earlier. I first learned about it when I worked at Ford last year, and thought it was kind of new until a friend of mine showed me his Windows Automotive keychain he got a year before at a Microsoft recruiting booth at U of M.
I run PPC, and let me tell you... If M$ started allowing fat binaries out of.NET for PPC and a significant number of programs started appearing for PPC, and they made a version of Windows that could be used inside OS X much like OS 9 or X11 are, I'd actually give money to the beast for the first time in a long while.
Now for why it won't happen... Companies would stop programming for the Mac. They'd only program for Windows, saying, "well, it runs on Windows for PPC, so get that!", and then the entire Apple platform would die out. Then Microsoft would be a near-total monopoly again (except for Linux being there, of course...) and then they might actually lose in an anti-trust case. Microsoft would then be broken up and slowly die against Linux. Well, slowly, but less slowly than they already are. This situation alone will prevent NT for PPC from ever coming back.
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There's a poor family I know that buys a lot of their food from ultra-discount stores like Big Lots. They got some Meow Mix for their cat and inside was a contest game piece. When opened, the game piece played a funny version of the Meow Mix song and it had a sound effect of applause.
Turned out they won the grand prize in a contest. Their cat would appear on the cover of a big time cat magazine and they'd get to fly out (I think it was LA they got to go to) to see it happen.
The only problem is that the contest had been over for months. It was too late to claim the prize. That's what happens when you buy food that's been on the shelf for years at Big Lots, folks.
Ah well, they got a fun toy at least. We all took turns playing with the game piece, which on the inside was just a simple electronic circuit on a AAA battery that played the Meow Mix theme (and clapped) on demand.
I'll be here all night...please tip your waitresses!
I'm on Wi-Fi at a Denny's diner. I'll be sure to do that.
It's true that the majority of Americans lack a passport, but it's also true that a majority will never leave the country in their lives. Many will proudly tell you they don't need to, because they already live in the greatest place on earth.
Ah, spoken like someone truly not from Michigan. ^_~
In Detroit, Windsor is part of the Metro area. Going there is as common as going to any other suburb. Moreover, all the 19 and 20 year olds go to Canada to drink legally, as the age of majority in Ontario is 19.
So if the entire population of Metro Detroit gets a passport (6 million people on both sides of the border) that's a lot of people.
Some commentary:
88.7 fm: Based outta Windsor, plays mostly death metal and extreme alternative stuff. Grates on my nerves after a while.
Eh? Death metal? *laughs out loud* I've never heard *any* metal on that station in my life! Just the opposite! They play "light alternative" which has been getting lighter and more high-pitched with every year. If you want some death metal check out Cannibal Corpse. Not my cup of tea, but some people are into it.
93.5 fm: Lite rock from Windsor with a definitely Canadian bent, but too sugary-sweet for my own personal tastes. 8 years ago it was all I listened to as they had a great alternative rock format. Fell in love with Sarah McLachlan all thanks to 93.5.
Only on the East side. Out West you get a station I used to be the midnight DJ at, WHMI-FM out of Howell. They play Classic Hits, which includes anything you can think of. I played Fleetwood Mac and Pink Floyd to Elton John to Nirvana there. How odd.
95.5 fm: More Top 40/Rap buffoon music. Perfect if you're a 14-y/o wigger.
Detroit's own NERD comes to mind as a decent group. Don't forget that Rock & Roll originated with black artists. A lot of whites hated Rock & Roll and even said it was evil on the basis of where it came from. I'd hate to be a modern version of one of those prejudiced people.
101.1 fm: Last of a dying breed, still an album-oriented rock station trying to preserve the sound of the 70's. Home to Drew & Mike, Arthur Penhallow (one of the oldest DJs still on Detroit radio after 30+ years), and Doug Podell. Only listen occasionally as they try too hard to be hard rockin'.
Depends on what you mean about "sound of the 70's". They play rock, and the only time for the most part they really play older stuff from the 60's or 70's (or lately, the 80's) is during the afternoon drive. Otherwise it's all new American rock. I'd listen to these guys but I'm more into the less over-produced underground stuff out there, especially from Europe. These stations are a dime a dozen, though. An example of an identical station is WEBN in Cincinatti.
So, yes, overall, I got your point. Radio in Detroit sucks. You know what, though? I think that's true nationwide. If you've ever read R&R (Radio & Records) magazine, the magazine of the radio industry, you'd know there's only a handful of formats that stations pick from. Hell, you've probably figured that one out on your own. Detroit is lucky because of it's proximity to Canada. 89X/88.7 doesn't fit any "official" American formats, so you'll really hear some unique stuff. An Alternative Rock station in any other market sounds quite different, and IMHO a whole lot worse. But, hey, I have an iPod. I haven't listened to the radio in years, save for news.
Another note, all you kids thinking your hero DJ makes a gazillion dollars... Well, they don't. Most DJs make around $10 an hour. As computers provide more and more automation, more are being laid off. Most DJs live in poverty. Hence why I'm not going into radio as a career. It's fun, but not something to support a family on.
if it was not for the conventions there almost every stinking day the town would dry up or turn into a subdivision for detroitites looking for a $500,000+ home right on the highway. (Note to non michigan people. we have LOTS of the "stupid rich" here. paying huge sums to build their GIANT homes right on the highway so they can hear and smell those disel trucks...)
The Detroit post-riot White Flight (TM) continues... Now Brighton is the next Novi. Novi is too big and overdeveloped, so all the rich Republicans are in Brighton now.
The thing is, Brighton is almost halfway between Detroit and Lansing. The next town over is Howell, which has a Lansing area code, gets the Lansing TV stations, and receives the Lansing State Journal newspaper. The local college? It's Lansing Community College.
So my question is, once Brighton is as overdeveloped as Novi because of these rich fuckwits, where are they all going to go?
Go to the Ramada in Detroit :)
You mean where MacHack/ADHOC is held? Good choice!
Bull. I'd rather shoot myself than enjoy Novi's "nightlife". I club in Downtown Detroit, and nowhere else (unless I'm in another major city). Novi is for yuppie asshats that blow $120,000+ on Hummers just to look "cool".
Could you imagine the possibilities on this thing if you added some Looking Glass features and used an iSight?
Most people would surely have no use for it, but it could lead to some interesting games. Maybe something like virtual geocaching?
It seems that States want it both ways - they like to get nicotine addiction classified as a handicap (MN) in order to pursue tobacco companies to get huge settlements, then they turn around and enact outrageous, disporportionate taxes on this same addiction.
I live in Michigan, and you're right on.
The Michigan government started a program some time ago to use most of the money from tobacco settlements for... Take a guess:
Was it for health programs for smokers? To try and get them to quit?
Nope, it was $2500 college scholarships for middle and high school students that do well on state standardized testing!
It makes perfect sense to me. Don't trust the government with your money, or with anyone else's, for that matter.
One word: BASIC.
/that/ into PDAs anymore since I have a laptop now... Sorry!
Once again, this was "back in the day".
I know you can get BASIC compilers for WinCE and PalmOS, and you might be able to get a full IDE for Zaurus.
I'm not
Hope I was able to help a little.
After reading a lot of replies I see a general theme.
/ask/ my kids where they are rather than a GPS device of some sort like many parents want to use these days.
/don't/ have cell phones already! ...and why shouldn't they have phones? PDAs?
Most people seem to think the DS is for kids. It isn't. Nintendo has stated clearly that the Game Boy Advance is for the market of the original Game Boy (6 to 25 years old or so) and that the DS is for the young adults that had the original Game Boy and are grown up now. The DS is intended for a 16 to 40 market. It's not for kids.
Nintendo has also previously announced plans to launch a VoIP service for the DS that will only work with other Nintendo DS units. I think this was even covered on Slashdot.
To the people saying 12 year olds don't need cell phones, I have to say this:
I was using experimental (read: pre-Newton and Newton-era but not the Newton itself) PDAs when I was as young as 12. I loved them. They helped me in school immensely and kept me entertained, as well. I loved communications equipment at that age, and when I wasn't busy hacking the local BBS I was often on the CB radio with my buddies. If we had cell phones, we would have used those.
There were plenty of times I was out in the middle of the woods or in town with friends that I'm sure my parents would have loved to get ahold of me. I know that when I have kids I will enjoy the piece of mind that comes from knowing you can get ahold of them while they're out playing and having fun.
Yes, I'll still ask them where they're going, but you simply can't lock your 12 year old in the house 24/7. So, a cell phone is often the best thing you can do.
Frankly, I'd rather it be a cell phone that I can call to
From what I hear from parents I know, there are few kids these days in middle school or high school that
Isn't giving a kid a piece of technology and teaching them how to use it responsibly a GOOD thing?
If you think the answer is no, I'd like to say you have a rather anti-Slashdot (or simply anti-hacker) mentality.
There were plenty of times I'd take a long hike in the woods and sit down in the middle of the woods on a log and program on my PDA for a few hours. Hey, it might of been strange, but I was active physically and I was learning, too. I got a good programming job fresh out of high school when a lot of my peers were still at fast food jobs, so it couldn't have been all bad.
Many of my friends and myself tend to do poorly in a classroom environment but do extremely well when tested.
I know plenty of people with MENSA-level IQ that are like this, so it would seem to disprove the theory stated above. They all (including myself) have been diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder at some point while growing up.
Has anyone else here observed anything like this?
I've seen this argument on several Mac mini related threads lately.
My theory is that it is a new troll. The "Macs aren't cheap enough" troll cannot possibly hold a candle anymore to the $499 mini's price tag. OS X is more powerful than XP Pro, and with the other software (iPhoto = Adobe Photo Album, etc.) it's got at least $499 worth of software on board.
Macs have supported right-click mice since Jobs came back in 1998 (or was it '97?), or you can hold control and click to get the same effect with the Apple one-button mouse. Since you supply the mouse when you buy a mini, the tired mouse argument is dead as well.
So now the people that fight for the glory of the outdated x86 architecture, especially the Windows users, feel obligated to call the mini "not a real computer" because it's a Mac or it's not powerful enough (1.25 GHz G4?! Not powerful @ $499?!) or they don't understand the GUI, etc.
It's the new Mac troll. Guess we need to get used to it, since it's all we'll hear on Mac threads when browsed at -1 for a long, long while.
I'm certain that as soon as midnight hit and and the lights stayed on, on January the 1st, 2000, that the media went, "Oh, crap! People aren't going to want to hear about this anymore!", and that was the end of it.
However, buried in all the "people-are-sick-of-Y2K since-nothing-happened" hoopla, I remember a story about a nuclear power plant in one of the USA that would have had some sort of accident had they not had all the extra staff handy.
I was in my last year of high school, and the computerized clocks failed. At first they didn't work at all, then someone managed to get the machine rebooted. The date displayed was humorous.
"January 1st, 10100"
Now, anyone knowing anything about programming sees what happened:
In other words, 99 + 1 = 100
"19" + "100" = "19100"!
After many a mess with Sprint, and an unwillingness to use any of the other providers, I have been considering using VoIP on a PDA/Cell Phone for some time now.
The idea is that I would get something like the MDA/XDA III which is a Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Pocket PC that also has a GSM phone radio in it, and install a prepay card for when I need to make a call and there is no Wi-Fi around.
I don't know how it is in your neck of the woods, but where I live, even the local hick bar advertises that they have Wi-Fi now. I rarely go somewhere where there is no open Wi-Fi signal.
I'm going to start by testing using Wi-Fi on my laptop before I get the PDA.
Does who has done this, use VoIP on a PDA like it's a cell phone, have any tips?
I-69 exists!
What you might find far more interesting is the work needed to keep the sign up at I-75's Exit 69, Big Beaver Road, in Troy, Michigan.
Here's a website trying to make some money from the spectacle...
Since most cell phone companies let you add a phone to a family plan for only $10 a month, most parents have their kids on the plan. Many lock the phone so it can only call Mom, Dad, and maybe a relative like Grandma.
This is more of an electronic tether than anything, unfortunately.
It is quite the norm, though, in not just the USA but most first world nations.
"640K ought to be enough for anybody."
-Bill Gates
Sorry for replying to my own post.
Turns out that the guy my business partner knew and this dude were totally different people. Oops. What they got busted for was basically the same thing, and they're from the same area. What an odd coincidence. Send me an e-mail if you have an questions.
My business partner learned hacking and coding from this guy when the guy was legit.
What he did I think any of us on Slashdot could do. It doesn't require a great deal of skill or 31337N355.
This is in the "Your Rights Online" section because he should be treated the same as someone who thirty years ago stole file cabinets of data about people at a large chain's headquarters. If the data is the same then there is no need for changing the sentence.
That said, the young man did wrong and will get what he deserves. He was a little bit bright and could surely have come up with a better scheme than this. I know I could, but I and his former "student" are devoting our time to a legit business.
Please excuse the shameless plug. We may be legit, but we're certainly not wealthy. Starting a company is hard work. 60+ hour workweeks, paying yourself less than minimum wage for a year or more... No wonder Mr. Salcedo chose the "easy way out".
It's time for the other half of this rumor to come true. I'd love to see Apple and IBM do the impossible and join forces.
Linux and BSD from major companies, with the potential to unite the hippies and the businessmen. The programmers and the grandfathers (and the grandfathers who happen to be programmers).
This could be a beautiful thing. Let's just hope it isn't simply another case of an American company selling out to the Reds. Let's face it, it will be much more fun if it's a case of two of our favorite companies uniting to defeat the evil that is Microsoft.
(Hey, can Novell jump in this too?)
But see, we don't read the article. So summaries from readers who KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW make for awesome comments....
Where's +1 Unfortunately True?
I'm not sure that geeks and goths are all that opposite.
As a Goth that owns a software company, I have no idea as to what you could be talking about. I think there is no way a Goth could ever be a Geek, or vice versa. */sarcasm*
In other news, looks like I'm going to have to finally get a Suicide Girls subscription... With all this /. traffic, they're going to go bankrupt. C'mon everyone, let's help them out! :-D
This is OLD NEWS!
Windows Automotive was announced in 2002, if not earlier. I first learned about it when I worked at Ford last year, and thought it was kind of new until a friend of mine showed me his Windows Automotive keychain he got a year before at a Microsoft recruiting booth at U of M.
I run PPC, and let me tell you... If M$ started allowing fat binaries out of .NET for PPC and a significant number of programs started appearing for PPC, and they made a version of Windows that could be used inside OS X much like OS 9 or X11 are, I'd actually give money to the beast for the first time in a long while.
Now for why it won't happen... Companies would stop programming for the Mac. They'd only program for Windows, saying, "well, it runs on Windows for PPC, so get that!", and then the entire Apple platform would die out. Then Microsoft would be a near-total monopoly again (except for Linux being there, of course...) and then they might actually lose in an anti-trust case. Microsoft would then be broken up and slowly die against Linux. Well, slowly, but less slowly than they already are. This situation alone will prevent NT for PPC from ever coming back.