yeah, this is pretty ridiculous - surely a rudimentary search by the admin could have picked up the dupe... wow, look what the first hit on google brings up! Come on, timothy, keep up!:)
I wouldn't worry about it - with the level of hardware on Mars Odyssey, they'll be lucky to get a Doom 3 framerate of anything more than 1fpd (frames per day). With the quality set low. At 640x480. And not moving.
sigh... The Saturn V certainly wasn't used "13 times", they built 13 of them and used each once, 12 for the Apollo missions (including testing, excluding Earth orbit flights such as the initial test and engineering flights and the Apollo/Soyuz mission) and one to loft Skylab. It was not the reusable component that the shuttle orbiter or SRBs are, and was subject to quite a few problems throughout it's time, such as early ECOs and pogoing (oscillation) due to stack vibration, which were analysed and corrected in later flights by the rest of the 'fleet'.
Actually, it's a tribute to flight controller John Aaron, astronaut Al Bean and constantly diverse simulations that the 12 crew and launch controllers got their telemetry back after the lightning strike. Pete Conrad and Dick Gordon had no idea where the SCE switch was that Bean used on Aaron's request to re-enable telemetry to Houston. The fuel cells which were knocked offline by the strike were revived immediately after MECO and staging, not in orbit.
anyone actually going out and buying new.net domains are akin to those who buy plots of land on the moon anyone who already spent money on a.xxx were simply asking for it.
You don't see companies going out and providing alternate telephone number space... DNS should be a utility, and there's no need for third parties to come along and try to subvert that. Yes, sometimes ICANN's decisions suck, but I'd rather have ICANN than new.net in charge:P
man, the lengths these 6+ digit users will go to for a slight measure of l33tness... you do realise you'll get your magic 5 digit ID, then never log in again?
There is past precedent here for the parent entity to be associated with sibling companies hiccups - Dogma had it's distribution sold on from Miramax to Bob and Harvey Weinstein personally, then onto Lion's Gate, all due to some Christian types screaming bloody murder for Disney's decision to distribute a steaming pile of blasphemy. When Lion's Gate picked up Dogma, the Christian protesty types declared that they had "won", while the movie still got to play in theatres (as related by Kevin Smith in his Audience With... DVD, cf JamMovies)
IMO, DNA had it spot on - who actually cares if Disney, Sony, Fox, whoever were making this movie?
Note that Yahoo! Movies has HHGTTG listed as being distributed by Touchstone, so it's likely the central Disney brand won't be used for it.
Has anyone experienced problems using IPCop or SmoothWall with such services as Vonage and devices such as TiVo or Xbox Live?
I've been using both TiVo (over Ethernet/ADSL) and Xbox Live over a SmoothWall connection since June 2002 / Dec 2002 respectively, no problems with either whatsoever.
it was weird to find out from the horses mouth that there are now more than 23 times the number of downloads for IPCop than there are for SW GPL (both versions), that there are on average 15,000 more visitors per day to the download pages for IPCop than SmoothWall
The reason there aren't click-thrus from the SmoothWall project page on sourceforge is because we don't use those links or that page to generate downloads. The bulk of our downloads come from our download page (at the moment suitably lightened in weight to combat the/. effect), whereas that other firewall distribution uses their Sourceforge project download page (or 'Files' page) almost exclusively to host downloads. This is why that other distribution appears to get hundreds and thousands of downloads, while SmoothWall appears to get a mere handful through Sourceforge.
The ~ seven million hits and 300-400 gig of bandwidth we chew through every month (with half a million hits and 250 gig of those being hits to download.smoothwall.org), coupled with the fact we use other mirrors in addition to sourceforge to host our files, suggest to me that using sourceforge to gauge our overall popularity and download counts is a flawed strategy at best.
and that for every four visitors to SmoothWall, three then click through to IPCop and download 1.3.0.
How can someone "click through" to another project site directly when there's no direct link between them? Incidentally, from what I can tell, the huge number of hits to that other distribution's sourceforge stats is due to their inclusion of the sourceforge stats-collector logo in their web interface, thus generating thousands more hits for their project while people administer their firewalls. Cute, huh?
As for the final comment, if this were the case, how could any commercial security vendor survive? There will always be a market for boxed product, while the degrees of openness within such product will invariably differ from product to product, market to market, and over time.
Your little firewall loaded up with a smorgasboard of potentially vulnerable services might be just fine for your own personal little network that you fully have control over. But it is certainly **stupid** to make a firewall serve as anything other than a firewall in anything larger (say, a corporate network).
This is why virtually every service (port forwarding, dhcpd, ntp, dyndns, squid, upnpd, etc) is *disabled* by default in SmoothWall. I can't speak for any other distros/packages, but I'd assume most others would ship with similarly sane settings.
Ok, I try not to be negative, but the good folks at ipcop.org are actually friendly and helpful. The main guy at smoothwall is a jerk. Forgive me, I know this sounds like a troll, but the people behind open-source projects affect me opinion of said projects.
If you're referring to Richard Morrell, and by the reference "main guy" I assume that you are, he left in March, as has been pointed out several times already in these threads.
There's no requirement to donate or anything of the sort. If you'd like to purchase the company's commercial software, that's great, but the point of open source is that it's open, free, and libre:)
Unfortunately, the developers really annoyed me. One time, they released a patch that added a splash screen to the web interface that popped up EVERY time you changed page. And set chattr+i on the file on the server, then deleted the {ls,ch}attr commands on the server.
That patch was pulled very quickly after the backlash, and nothing of the sort would ever be contemplated again. Ever.
Which was just offensive. I went into their [community] IRC channel and mentioned how to fix it, and was kickbanned.
This sort of offensive behaviour does not happen anymore.
They make a big thing about being GPL and community-friendly, but in practice I just find them offensive.
IPCop does have a faster upload speed for USB ADSL on BTOpenworld
(30Kb/s for IPCop, 3Kb/s for Smoothwall GPL). The IPCop team have updated
the driver, whilst the Smoothwall GPL version does not have the driver
update. Of course you can pay for the Smoothwall Home version if you want
the faster upload.
This refers to a long-old version of SmoothWall GPL and the Speedtouch driver - both SmoothWall GPL 1.0 and SmoothWall Express 2.0 have no problems with USB ASDL upstream.
The next version of IPCop, 0.2, will be more of a radical departure from
Smoothwall. Currently IPCop 0.1.1 is much the same as smoothwall GPL
This shows how old the parent post is, information wise. IPcop 1.4 alpha/beta still bears a lot of resemblance to SmoothWall GPL 1.0 / Express 2.0.
Oh and IPCop is GPL and being actively developed, were as Smoothwall GPL is
backing a back seat to the Home and Corporate versions, i.e. new features
are being added to the Home/Corporate version and *maybe* back ported to
Smoothwall GPL.
Untrue - our commitment to the GPL is a firm as always, and new features are constantly being backported from the commercial products into the open source project.
neuro said that...' there are cool things in
the works for GPL, and some of the corporate proprietory stuff may be
backlicensed to GPL in the future.'
Yes, this has happened.
Richard is pushing for the money right now, not that I blame him. Though
using Smoothwall GPL means that one was much of a beta tester for the Home
and Server base versions.
Possibly true. We do occasionally deploy features into the open source project to see how they pan out - if they work well, we roll them into the commercial products with proper source attribution where required.
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yeah, this is pretty ridiculous - surely a rudimentary search by the admin could have picked up the dupe ... wow, look what the first hit on google brings up! Come on, timothy, keep up! :)
Use tools like the built-in anti-p2p IP blocking in eMule Plus, or the SafePeer extension for Azureus, and those things go away. Allegedly. So I hear.
Unless the fucking cellphone in question was connected to a remotely controlled SAM ...
In Soviet Russia, telephone call monitoring system calls YOU!
Pioneer 10 was still ticking over 21 years after launch ...
I wouldn't worry about it - with the level of hardware on Mars Odyssey, they'll be lucky to get a Doom 3 framerate of anything more than 1fpd (frames per day). With the quality set low. At 640x480. And not moving.
Roll on .mars
The case for some sort of linked-to-from-/. cache site grows ever larger.
> Plus you can choose not to see ads.
I can do that without subscribing - right-click the ads in Firefox and 'Block images from ...'.
sigh
Actually, it's a tribute to flight controller John Aaron, astronaut Al Bean and constantly diverse simulations that the 12 crew and launch controllers got their telemetry back after the lightning strike. Pete Conrad and Dick Gordon had no idea where the SCE switch was that Bean used on Aaron's request to re-enable telemetry to Houston. The fuel cells which were knocked offline by the strike were revived immediately after MECO and staging, not in orbit.
cf Apollo 12 Mission History and Andrew Chaikin's A Man on the Moon.
anyone actually going out and buying new.net domains are akin to those who buy plots of land on the moon anyone who already spent money on a .xxx were simply asking for it.
You don't see companies going out and providing alternate telephone number space ... DNS should be a utility, and there's no need for third parties to come along and try to subvert that. Yes, sometimes ICANN's decisions suck, but I'd rather have ICANN than new.net in charge :P
man, the lengths these 6+ digit users will go to for a slight measure of l33tness ... you do realise you'll get your magic 5 digit ID, then never log in again?
Lawyers? To the 'B' Ark with them all!!
There is past precedent here for the parent entity to be associated with sibling companies hiccups - Dogma had it's distribution sold on from Miramax to Bob and Harvey Weinstein personally, then onto Lion's Gate, all due to some Christian types screaming bloody murder for Disney's decision to distribute a steaming pile of blasphemy. When Lion's Gate picked up Dogma, the Christian protesty types declared that they had "won", while the movie still got to play in theatres (as related by Kevin Smith in his Audience With ... DVD, cf JamMovies)
IMO, DNA had it spot on - who actually cares if Disney, Sony, Fox, whoever were making this movie?
Note that Yahoo! Movies has HHGTTG listed as being distributed by Touchstone, so it's likely the central Disney brand won't be used for it.
The best thing for me to say in reply to this is go check out the SmoothWall Community forums, as I'm about 15 seconds away from disappearing to bed :)
I had to laugh when I read this:
The reason there aren't click-thrus from the SmoothWall project page on sourceforge is because we don't use those links or that page to generate downloads. The bulk of our downloads come from our download page (at the moment suitably lightened in weight to combat theAs for the final comment, if this were the case, how could any commercial security vendor survive? There will always be a market for boxed product, while the degrees of openness within such product will invariably differ from product to product, market to market, and over time.
There's no requirement to donate or anything of the sort. If you'd like to purchase the company's commercial software, that's great, but the point of open source is that it's open, free, and libre :)
Please don't perpetuate stale attitudes!
Please note the following caveat before researching anything about SmoothWall - Richard Morrell has left the company and the project.
> USE IPCOP ITS A FREE PROJECT
So is SmoothWall, and always has been.