The GNU Project defends FREEDOM. The OSS movement, and it's main development, this kernel, Linux, doesn't really care about freedom, they are happy to introduce proprietary software into the system, they just want it to be popular and technically good. In fact, when Torvalds started working on Linux, he didn't wanted to make it Free Software, he was forced to put it under the GNU GPL since most developers helping him, (and without those developers this kernel woudln't exist today), where people participating in the GNU Project. If you read some of the release notes and posts from Torvalds for the first alpha kernels, you can see that he says specifically that the system is "mostly GNU".
That's fine and good; the media and everyone else on the planet calls the system by the moniker Linux. If you, RMS and the rest of your FSF circle jerk doesn't understand this, grow some thicker skins or find some way to convince everyone that doesn't involve ideology and other things that are irrelevant.
Here is how the GNU System works, and you can see this by reading the funding papers of our movement. The FSF created a basic system, that included both proprietary Unix software and free replacements for many software in that system, that was the GNU system. Developers arround the world were welcome to take the parts in the system that were still proprietary, and write free replacements for them, making the GNU OS bigger and bigger, until one they it would be completely free of any proprietary piece of software. The FSF provided the GPL to help this hackers protect their work. Many people wrote free replacementes for unix software, some of them, pretty important ones, like, for example, the glibc, gcc, gdb, emacs, gnome, plus most of the more important unix utilitys needed to put the system together, for example, a shell, grep, sed, tar, gzip, etc,etc. One of the persons writting free replacemetns to existing pieces of software was Torvalds, he choosed to write a kernel.
Might I suggest a spell checker? Moving on, I know exactly how the FSF works and how your "movement" goes. I don't make up my mind about things like this without giving them a fair shot. I've read all your literature and I don't agree with it. By continually trying to persuade people that your opinion is the one that is right, you're denying them their freedom to read a forum without excessive amounts of noise and to have an opinion that isn't the same as yours. That's not ethical either, is it?
Many people understands this situation (Debian, for example), many others just don't care.
Don't get me started on Debian. They're so obsessed with their social contract and politics that they just now released their first release in several years. Other groups (like Gentoo) have a social contract (although they're perhaps not as stringent and anal as Debian - see the inclusion of games like Neverwinter Nights in portage) and still manage to release. Why? Because the focus on ideology and politics, like is so common in the FSF, Debian and fanboi-ism (like you) detracts from actually releasing. What good is a protection scheme for software if you're so busy arguing with people who are pragmatic (like me) about names that you never release anything?
As i told you, this is not a matter of recognition, i really don't care about that, and neither does RMS, it's about what GNU means and what Linux means. GNU means Freedom for all the users of the Software. Linux means cheap software that is good enough to be used in your company. I Think that the goal of all the effort made for so many developers for 20 years weren't to provide companys with cheap alternatives to their systems, it was Freedom, and the world Linux doesn't reflect that.
GNU doesn't reflect freedom either; nowhere in the recursive acronym does the word "freedom" appear. You have to read countless pages of RMS drivel to understand that GNU makes the GPL available, and THIS protects freedom. If I called it "GPL/Linux," you'd still have kittens,
I'm going to attempt to set you straight for the umpteenth time here, ALMAFAGTE.
Actually, the name of the kernel (when we speak of "names" in the sense that you and other RMS groupies use when you claim that "Linux" is the name of the kernel) is NT. Really, I would be perfectly happy if you called my system that runs Windows XP SP2 an NT box, because that's basically what it is.
Now, in the case of Linux, people have been calling it by this name for a long time. There's no sense in confusing people and forcing them to call a system GNU/Linux on accounts of RMS and you having an issue with wanting recognition for your work. Do you really want to separate the community on accounts of names? Isn't this sort of like what happened in the United States Civil Rights Movement, when people were divided by names like "Nigger"?
Why can't you just be happy that people use the system? The GPL will still protect your rights regardless if you call things by what you and other radicals consider to be the "proper name." I don't see you campaigning for people to call Gaim or Mac OS X GNU/Gaim or GNU/Mac OS X, as the GNU compilers made each of these possible. What's up with that?
Methinks you and the rest of the GNU/FSF whackos are just upset that without Linux, you'd all just be a group of hackers that nobody would want to be around on a hot summer day.
This isn't news. This is the lunatic ravings of a dirty communist pig. Stallman hasn't written any code since he started thumping his "OMG it's GNU/Linux WTF" drum and he's completely and totally useless right now. Nobody gives a shit about what he thinks, except this guy, who just happens to be his gay lover. YAWN.
RMS worked 15 years full-time on things that he gives away for free? I think you're misinformed. Actually, the majority of the code for GNU was taken from IP obtained illegally from SCO. After all, there isn't any UNIX code in Linux (it has been proven by science), so obviously the SCO lawsuit had to come from somewhere, right?
Here are some definitions of proprietary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprietary http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/p/proprietary.htmlht tp://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html#Propri etarySoftware The term "Proprietary Software" was first used by RMS, and he has defined it as seen on the last link. I'm unimpressed by your usage of terms defined by someone for their own personal use. That's like me saying that I define "chocolate" to be anything that is blue. Uninteresting and completely irrelevant. Yawn.
Also, in the future, if you want to post to a site like this, I suggest you master use of the "period," denoted by the symbol ".". The nice thing about periods is that they break sentences up. I swear, my eyes were panting by the time I got done reading your useless post. English is the language of the scientific world; learn it if you want to be taken seriously and not as the GNU/FSF puppet you clearly are.
2 - Who says XMMS is not portable?, all the librarys that XMMS uses are FREE, and are portable, including it's widget, GTK. it's not tied down to the GNU/Linux sound system, since it supports arts, oss, alsa, etc. via different plugins. Both Input and output are plugins, shared librarys XMMS uses, so, you can just download the code of XMMS and port it, most of the librarys it uses are allready ported. Noone has ported XMMS to windows since windows is a proprietary plataform, and the puropose of xmms is to provide a free alternative to winamp, what good would it make to replace winamp if you are still using a proprietary plataform?.
You obviously haven't written any code under any other operating systems than Linux. Alsa means "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture," so obviously porting it to something other than Linux is not a possibility.
Also, you zealots and other uninformed types use which ever definition of "proprietary" is convenient for the discussion. At one minute, "proprietary" will be Microsoft, and at another it will be any closed-source operating system. I think you need to be a little more consistent.
...oh, and it's Linux, not GNU/Linux. GNU/Linux is just a way for Stallman to take credit for Linus's hard work. Sorry.:(
NASA also uses rocket technology to help Kathleen Malda out of bed every day, since rockets are the only thing with enough force to lift something that heavy.
I'm sure you'll all want to know that this device will NOT be compatible with Linux.
This is because the disk subsystem of Linux relies on some delay being present in between a piece of code triggering a write opearation and the write actually going to disk. This is why that whole sync() thing is required.
To combat this problem, Linux will have to be written from the ground up to take this into account. I think it'll take several years for support for these devices to make it into the kernel, and probably a few years after that for the bugs to get worked out.
If you would like to run this right now, though, I suggest you try Microsoft's line of products. They're much more stable and secure than Linux, and much less expensive. Feel free to read some information about these products here.
nullsoft, a proprietary solution, when you have got XMMS?
You know, the definition of proprietary implies (when related to computing and operating systems) that a piece of software is tied down to a certain platform. XMMS is, indeed, tied down to a certain platform, the family of Linux/Unix derivatives. Therefore, "nullsoft" (or, what we who know things about computing call "Winamp") and XMMS are both proprietary pieces of software.
This is just a way for Taco to pretend that he's cool for being a Linux Zealot. To the rest of us in computing, this daily "IBM is NOT dead! They have the power of Linux!" is a snore-a-thon (not to mention that many people in operating system research consider Linux a joke, anyway).
Oh well - at least this is a story that's not about Google or what Linus ate for breakfast yesterday.
Kathleen Fent, that is, Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda's wife, is most definitely not human - she is a cow. If you would like evidence of this fact, look no further than Taco's Own Webpage. Check out the Photos section and have a peek at his wedding pictures. I don't think it takes a genius to deduce from this picture and this picture that Kathleen was most definitely wearing a plus size wedding gown. Look at all the chins! More than likely this is the reason she is not wearing a wedding veil during the ceremony; it would be difficult to pack the hundreds of chins underneath a layer of material that thin and make them look right. This is the same principal used in determining that Kathleen would most likely look revolting in a swimsuit; tiny bits of clothing look just stupid next to massive amounts of flesh. This is the reason why her wedding dress covers the vast majority of her body. Actually, in this photo, something bulges out of her a little below the waist. Maybe it's a penis! Maybe she's a bull!
I think it's safe to say that Rob and Kathleen should be divorced immediately; Shamu^H^H^H^H^HKathleen most definitely should be married to (or at least dating) CowboiKneel, as their weights are complementary. Just think of the fun they could have! The could hang around at Kentucky Fried Chicken and count each other's chins whilst dining on fried chicken skin covered in that brown gravy stuff. Kathleen might even win! But, surely enough, no; everyone knows that no one is as fat as Cowboi.
Moving back to the issue at hand, though - you can find more evidence of her species being that of the bovine type at Kathleen's rather dull website, sarcasta.net. Notice her obsession with "haybles?" These are frequently found in fields with, you guessed it, cows. Coincidence? I don't think so. The nail in the coffin proving her non-human status is the section of her website devoted to drawings of cows. Who, other than a cow, could draw bovine so accurately? No one, that's who.
In closing, I'd like to say that the fact that Kathleen is a cow just can't be argued. There is simply just too much evidence leading to the conclusion that Kathleen is of the bovine persuasion to be ignored. One thing's for certain, though - Taco will never run out of milk for his Wheaties in the morning, will he? Moreover, if Taco's alone with his wife and starving, he could simply take a chunk out of her and fry it up, creating a tasty treat.
public class JavaLover extends Pedophile {
public JavaLover(Child c)
{
c.insertIntoButthole(new Penis(2));
} }
class Penis {
private int length;
public Penis(int _length)
{
length = _length;
} }
Rationale: Java lovers don't have penises, so why declare JavaLover as having a private member of type Penis? They just need one around to stick into their respective child's butthole (and this penis may, in fact, be a dildo).
This isn't offtopic; it's an obscure reference to Star Wars ep. IV (remember the part where Obi Wan "convinces" the guards that these aren't the droids they're looking for?).
You're complaining about GeekSpeak with WINDOWS? How about Linux, where installation instructions for software frequently are:
1. Download source tarball (mysoftware.tar.gz or mysoftware.tar.bz2) 2. Unpack (I hope you know tar -zxvf or whatever) 3. Run configure 4. Oh, I forgot to tell you, if you want your new instant messenging program to include support for getting input from your keyboard, you need to modify the Makefile. I hope you know vi/emacs/whatever 5. Compile package with sudo make install or whatever 6. You know, I hope/usr/share/bin or wherever the program installs to is in your $PATH. Oh, what's that - it's not? Well, now you get to go muck around in/etc/profile and or/etc/bashrc to put it there...and don't get me started on package managers like apt-get/emerge/rpm. They're just as bad.
The fact is (and despite you zealots' fondest wishes), Windows is infinitely more user friendly than Linux.
I mean, if you want WinXP without the MSFT cruft, face it, you want Linux instead.
WTF douchebag? According to you zealots, ALL Microsoft software (note how I spell out the company's name, asshole; you fuckers look retarded when you use MSFT) is cruft. So, this is basically a contradiction. Also, if you want WinXP, why in the hell would you go for Linux instead? The two systems have incredibly different architectures, so it's not like Linux is a perfect drop-in for WinXP.
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The GNU Project defends FREEDOM. The OSS movement, and it's main development, this kernel, Linux, doesn't really care about freedom, they are happy to introduce proprietary software into the system, they just want it to be popular and technically good. In fact, when Torvalds started working on Linux, he didn't wanted to make it Free Software, he was forced to put it under the GNU GPL since most developers helping him, (and without those developers this kernel woudln't exist today), where people participating in the GNU Project. If you read some of the release notes and posts from Torvalds for the first alpha kernels, you can see that he says specifically that the system is "mostly GNU".
That's fine and good; the media and everyone else on the planet calls the system by the moniker Linux. If you, RMS and the rest of your FSF circle jerk doesn't understand this, grow some thicker skins or find some way to convince everyone that doesn't involve ideology and other things that are irrelevant.
Here is how the GNU System works, and you can see this by reading the funding papers of our movement. The FSF created a basic system, that included both proprietary Unix software and free replacements for many software in that system, that was the GNU system. Developers arround the world were welcome to take the parts in the system that were still proprietary, and write free replacements for them, making the GNU OS bigger and bigger, until one they it would be completely free of any proprietary piece of software. The FSF provided the GPL to help this hackers protect their work. Many people wrote free replacementes for unix software, some of them, pretty important ones, like, for example, the glibc, gcc, gdb, emacs, gnome, plus most of the more important unix utilitys needed to put the system together, for example, a shell, grep, sed, tar, gzip, etc,etc. One of the persons writting free replacemetns to existing pieces of software was Torvalds, he choosed to write a kernel.
Might I suggest a spell checker? Moving on, I know exactly how the FSF works and how your "movement" goes. I don't make up my mind about things like this without giving them a fair shot. I've read all your literature and I don't agree with it. By continually trying to persuade people that your opinion is the one that is right, you're denying them their freedom to read a forum without excessive amounts of noise and to have an opinion that isn't the same as yours. That's not ethical either, is it?
Many people understands this situation (Debian, for example), many others just don't care.
Don't get me started on Debian. They're so obsessed with their social contract and politics that they just now released their first release in several years. Other groups (like Gentoo) have a social contract (although they're perhaps not as stringent and anal as Debian - see the inclusion of games like Neverwinter Nights in portage) and still manage to release. Why? Because the focus on ideology and politics, like is so common in the FSF, Debian and fanboi-ism (like you) detracts from actually releasing. What good is a protection scheme for software if you're so busy arguing with people who are pragmatic (like me) about names that you never release anything?
As i told you, this is not a matter of recognition, i really don't care about that, and neither does RMS, it's about what GNU means and what Linux means. GNU means Freedom for all the users of the Software. Linux means cheap software that is good enough to be used in your company.
I Think that the goal of all the effort made for so many developers for 20 years weren't to provide companys with cheap alternatives to their systems, it was Freedom, and the world Linux doesn't reflect that.
GNU doesn't reflect freedom either; nowhere in the recursive acronym does the word "freedom" appear. You have to read countless pages of RMS drivel to understand that GNU makes the GPL available, and THIS protects freedom. If I called it "GPL/Linux," you'd still have kittens,
I'm going to attempt to set you straight for the umpteenth time here, ALMAFAGTE.
Actually, the name of the kernel (when we speak of "names" in the sense that you and other RMS groupies use when you claim that "Linux" is the name of the kernel) is NT. Really, I would be perfectly happy if you called my system that runs Windows XP SP2 an NT box, because that's basically what it is.
Now, in the case of Linux, people have been calling it by this name for a long time. There's no sense in confusing people and forcing them to call a system GNU/Linux on accounts of RMS and you having an issue with wanting recognition for your work. Do you really want to separate the community on accounts of names? Isn't this sort of like what happened in the United States Civil Rights Movement, when people were divided by names like "Nigger"?
Why can't you just be happy that people use the system? The GPL will still protect your rights regardless if you call things by what you and other radicals consider to be the "proper name." I don't see you campaigning for people to call Gaim or Mac OS X GNU/Gaim or GNU/Mac OS X, as the GNU compilers made each of these possible. What's up with that?
Methinks you and the rest of the GNU/FSF whackos are just upset that without Linux, you'd all just be a group of hackers that nobody would want to be around on a hot summer day.
This isn't news. This is the lunatic ravings of a dirty communist pig. Stallman hasn't written any code since he started thumping his "OMG it's GNU/Linux WTF" drum and he's completely and totally useless right now. Nobody gives a shit about what he thinks, except this guy, who just happens to be his gay lover. YAWN.
Remember, Kids: Only faggots run Linux.
...didn't read.
RMS worked 15 years full-time on things that he gives away for free? I think you're misinformed. Actually, the majority of the code for GNU was taken from IP obtained illegally from SCO. After all, there isn't any UNIX code in Linux (it has been proven by science), so obviously the SCO lawsuit had to come from somewhere, right?
Here are some definitions of proprietary:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprietary
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/p/proprietary.htmlh
The term "Proprietary Software" was first used by RMS, and he has defined it as seen on the last link.
I'm unimpressed by your usage of terms defined by someone for their own personal use. That's like me saying that I define "chocolate" to be anything that is blue. Uninteresting and completely irrelevant. Yawn.
Also, in the future, if you want to post to a site like this, I suggest you master use of the "period," denoted by the symbol ".". The nice thing about periods is that they break sentences up. I swear, my eyes were panting by the time I got done reading your useless post. English is the language of the scientific world; learn it if you want to be taken seriously and not as the GNU/FSF puppet you clearly are.
2 - Who says XMMS is not portable?, all the librarys that XMMS uses are FREE, and are portable, including it's widget, GTK. it's not tied down to the GNU/Linux sound system, since it supports arts, oss, alsa, etc. via different plugins. Both Input and output are plugins, shared librarys XMMS uses, so, you can just download the code of XMMS and port it, most of the librarys it uses are allready ported. Noone has ported XMMS to windows since windows is a proprietary plataform, and the puropose of xmms is to provide a free alternative to winamp, what good would it make to replace winamp if you are still using a proprietary plataform?.
You obviously haven't written any code under any other operating systems than Linux. Alsa means "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture," so obviously porting it to something other than Linux is not a possibility.
Also, you zealots and other uninformed types use which ever definition of "proprietary" is convenient for the discussion. At one minute, "proprietary" will be Microsoft, and at another it will be any closed-source operating system. I think you need to be a little more consistent.
NASA also uses rocket technology to help Kathleen Malda out of bed every day, since rockets are the only thing with enough force to lift something that heavy.
I'm sure you'll all want to know that this device will NOT be compatible with Linux.
This is because the disk subsystem of Linux relies on some delay being present in between a piece of code triggering a write opearation and the write actually going to disk. This is why that whole sync() thing is required.
To combat this problem, Linux will have to be written from the ground up to take this into account. I think it'll take several years for support for these devices to make it into the kernel, and probably a few years after that for the bugs to get worked out.
If you would like to run this right now, though, I suggest you try Microsoft's line of products. They're much more stable and secure than Linux, and much less expensive. Feel free to read some information about these products here.
nullsoft, a proprietary solution, when you have got XMMS?
You know, the definition of proprietary implies (when related to computing and operating systems) that a piece of software is tied down to a certain platform. XMMS is, indeed, tied down to a certain platform, the family of Linux/Unix derivatives. Therefore, "nullsoft" (or, what we who know things about computing call "Winamp") and XMMS are both proprietary pieces of software.
YOU FAIL IT (it is realizing this to be true)
The true worth of software can be easily found by determining the number of first posts that it allows you to get on any given day.
First post! YAY!
Better yet, WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK about Taco's World of Warcraft characters?
If your girlfriend lives in Africa, you have a lot more serious things to worry about - like the fact that she automatically has AIDS now.
How about you use your GPS systems to make a map of how to get to the drug store to pick up your "cocktail?"
Fuck you Taco
This is just a way for Taco to pretend that he's cool for being a Linux Zealot. To the rest of us in computing, this daily "IBM is NOT dead! They have the power of Linux!" is a snore-a-thon (not to mention that many people in operating system research consider Linux a joke, anyway).
Oh well - at least this is a story that's not about Google or what Linus ate for breakfast yesterday.
...frist post on a roller coaster!
You know, there are things in the world that don't have to do with OSS/GNU/Stallman. This is one of them.
Kathleen Fent, that is, Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda's wife, is most definitely not human - she is a cow. If you would like evidence of this fact, look no further than Taco's Own Webpage. Check out the Photos section and have a peek at his wedding pictures. I don't think it takes a genius to deduce from this picture and this picture that Kathleen was most definitely wearing a plus size wedding gown. Look at all the chins! More than likely this is the reason she is not wearing a wedding veil during the ceremony; it would be difficult to pack the hundreds of chins underneath a layer of material that thin and make them look right. This is the same principal used in determining that Kathleen would most likely look revolting in a swimsuit; tiny bits of clothing look just stupid next to massive amounts of flesh. This is the reason why her wedding dress covers the vast majority of her body. Actually, in this photo, something bulges out of her a little below the waist. Maybe it's a penis! Maybe she's a bull!
I think it's safe to say that Rob and Kathleen should be divorced immediately; Shamu^H^H^H^H^HKathleen most definitely should be married to (or at least dating) CowboiKneel, as their weights are complementary. Just think of the fun they could have! The could hang around at Kentucky Fried Chicken and count each other's chins whilst dining on fried chicken skin covered in that brown gravy stuff. Kathleen might even win! But, surely enough, no; everyone knows that no one is as fat as Cowboi.
Moving back to the issue at hand, though - you can find more evidence of her species being that of the bovine type at Kathleen's rather dull website, sarcasta.net. Notice her obsession with "haybles?" These are frequently found in fields with, you guessed it, cows. Coincidence? I don't think so. The nail in the coffin proving her non-human status is the section of her website devoted to drawings of cows. Who, other than a cow, could draw bovine so accurately? No one, that's who.
In closing, I'd like to say that the fact that Kathleen is a cow just can't be argued. There is simply just too much evidence leading to the conclusion that Kathleen is of the bovine persuasion to be ignored. One thing's for certain, though - Taco will never run out of milk for his Wheaties in the morning, will he? Moreover, if Taco's alone with his wife and starving, he could simply take a chunk out of her and fry it up, creating a tasty treat.
This could be cleaned up a bit:
public class JavaLover extends Pedophile
{
public JavaLover(Child c)
{
c.insertIntoButthole(new Penis(2));
}
}
class Penis
{
private int length;
public Penis(int _length)
{
length = _length;
}
}
Rationale: Java lovers don't have penises, so why declare JavaLover as having a private member of type Penis? They just need one around to stick into their respective child's butthole (and this penis may, in fact, be a dildo).
This isn't offtopic; it's an obscure reference to Star Wars ep. IV (remember the part where Obi Wan "convinces" the guards that these aren't the droids they're looking for?).
Slashdot mods: YOU ARE FAGGOT PIECES OF SHIT.
...and yet somehow, I was modded INTERESTING. WOW! Looks to me like you fail it, if it is knowing your ass from a hole in the ground.
You're complaining about GeekSpeak with WINDOWS? How about Linux, where installation instructions for software frequently are:
/usr/share/bin or wherever the program installs to is in your $PATH. Oh, what's that - it's not? Well, now you get to go muck around in /etc/profile and or /etc/bashrc to put it there ...and don't get me started on package managers like apt-get/emerge/rpm. They're just as bad.
1. Download source tarball (mysoftware.tar.gz or mysoftware.tar.bz2)
2. Unpack (I hope you know tar -zxvf or whatever)
3. Run configure
4. Oh, I forgot to tell you, if you want your new instant messenging program to include support for getting input from your keyboard, you need to modify the Makefile. I hope you know vi/emacs/whatever
5. Compile package with sudo make install or whatever
6. You know, I hope
The fact is (and despite you zealots' fondest wishes), Windows is infinitely more user friendly than Linux.
Nice try, though.
Could this open some eyes and increase interest in alternative (Linux, Mac) offerings?
WTF douchebag? According to you zealots, ALL Microsoft software (note how I spell out the company's name, asshole; you fuckers look retarded when you use MSFT) is cruft. So, this is basically a contradiction. Also, if you want WinXP, why in the hell would you go for Linux instead? The two systems have incredibly different architectures, so it's not like Linux is a perfect drop-in for WinXP.