Care to explain how AmigaOS is now at 4.0 while they've "never released an update ever again"?. to my mind that's at least 3 major revisions of the OS after the first. There were many in between also
Frankly, You don't know history... The Xerox Alto, was first released in 1981. The Mac, in January 1984. EG: About 3 years later. Not Ten. But the trueth is inconveneint to a revisionist like you, eh?
BWAAHAHAH. 1981 hey? Try for a little reality, before accusing others of "revisionism". The xerox Star came out in 1981, but the first Alto was more like 1973. 1973 is more than 10 years before the first mac on January 24 1984.
The Alto was released in 1981 only if the apple Mac was released in 1992.
Apple revisionists, now trying to deny what year it is. Classic... and very very typical
So you want to rewrite history by saying Apple was first?
Nice try. The first Alto was more than 10 years BEFORE the first mac. If there's one thing I fucking hate it's Apple revisionists trying to rewrite history.
Take a google around and read. learn. You might just ignite a spark of intelligence.
So often I see credit for "the gui" going to Apple, when it's these guys who should be getting the real credit. More work in GUI design, more original thought and more of the first hard yards in GUI systems were put in by the Alto originators than Apple's work, which was just in mass marketing an already existing product.
Neither of them can run any Linux except for MkLinux, which was an aborted Apple attempt at Linux (one of their less well known screwups). If you're happy using a pre-2.0 kernel and utilities 7 years out of date be my guest.
Case modding is cool among the same kind of morons in the geek community as the morons in car enthusiast communities that Rice things up.
I know a guy who has a nissan skyline with flames up both sides, a yellow stripe over the roof, stickered-out headlights, a body kit that looks like it was made for a car twice the size, and wheels with low profile rubber and suspension so hard that going over the smallest bump throws the car around and gives tall passengers a very real possibility of neck injury from bumping heads on the roof. Not only that but a stereo that's so loud its painful to listen to, and a rear wing that intrudes badly on vision out the back.
What's his computer? a goddamned neon-covered blue-LED bestowed box with more fans than you could possibly need in anything this side of a 256-way POWER4 box, windows, UV stickers and a paint job that looks like it was applied by a 4 year old with out of date paint and a worn out paintbrush.
I find it hilarious when faced with the fact a far cheaper machine runs quieter and faster, he uses the excuse of being an individual and putting his own 'mark' on what he owns. Pity both the car and the case mod look like every other ricer and unoriginal case mod out there.
It'll be nice to see you proven wrong in the end. I know more than one AmigaOS developer, and that's not what they've toldme.
wtf? I just said they've had delay after delay and bullshit after bullshit for 4 years. Are you denying this? have you magically somehow got a developer friend who pulled a copy of AmigaOS4 out of his ass and gave it to you in these last few years? no you don't.
And if you believe a developer that tells you anything different to the reality that AmigaOS4 is not out yet, like I've stated, then you're on drugs. Please share.
But january 2004 will be very exciting for amiga owners, believe me
Typical Amiga user vague fanatacism. Hinting at AmigaOS4 coming out, but saying it vaguely enough that you can later deny that's what you meant?
Let me guess, your Amiga tshirts will finally arrive?
bwahaha!. This is great cheap entertainment. so sue me.
Back in 1999, there were slides shown at shows through europe, showing the progress and plans for AmigaOS4.0. All going smoothly, they told us. And we waited, and waited, and a year later "On track and rockin'!". Yes, not long to go.
Then we find out nobody started anything until 2002 anyway.
Now it's coming up to 2004, and it's still only just out. It's hit beta though, and finally boots
It's been hilarious visiting all the Amiga boards and hearing the faithful and supposed "developers" who're in on the know how tell me I'm wrong when I say it's all hype, smoke and mirrors, and it'll be out within a month... or two. I've been doing that 4 years now and still there's nothing to show for it.
I'm sure it'll come eventually, but If anyone related to its marketing says when, do ignore them. They're full of shit.
Wonder if they truly think about this. the RIAA and their equivalents worldwide can't all be so insanely silly and see that their distribution methods are so outdated that fewer and fewer people are using them. Could they?
I should have said: I wonder if they truly think about what's happening, and see how outdated their distribution is, and that they're going to just keep on having to spend more and more on combating their 'customers' instead of putting original thought into making product people Want to buy instead of product that people Want to copy
The people who represent Canadian artists say everyone who has a hand in transmitting recorded music is liable.
That's the person who copies it, whoever writes the software that copies it (whether p2p, ftp, samba, http), the person who pays for net access, the person who owns the phoneline or cable connection, the ISP, the ISPs between ISPs, the receiving ISP, and all those people again on the receiving end.
Wonder if they truly think about this. the RIAA and their equivalents worldwide can't all be so insanely silly and see that their distribution methods are so outdated that fewer and fewer people are using them. Could they?
Uhhhh "how long?" indeed. A normal train carrying just as much traffic and passengers can be derailed by as much as a couple of dimes on the rails, what makes you think there's going to need to be any "finding a way"?
Some people don't live in your little miniscule world. Instead of ranting about people's lack of knowledge regarding something so RELATIVELY obscure
And you're exactly what's wrong with the newbies coming into the community, thinking of it as obscure and miniscule, which only goes to show you couldn't be bothered getting your facts straight and realising how things work BEFORE coming in and mouthing off at us. Perhaps you'd be better off with a cuddly macintosh?
Back around 1999 & 2000 there were rumours/news stories about the possibility of being tracked by mobile phones, and much discussion about how it wasn't really technically possible. Phone companies denied it could be done, many law enforcement agencies denied they used it (although some were forthcoming enough to say more). The general consensus was that it was something out of the XFiles.
Now it's commercial a scant 3 years later. Who'd have guessed.
Certainly. You can look at it from anywhere between two extremes. "Open Office still does not compete with MS Office feature for feature" and "Open Office is not as bloated as MS Office".
Not everyone needs all of the features MS Office "Offers". It's just another product with a wide range of features available to users, and it would be insane to suggest every user needed all features.
More than likely the Israeli decision went to OOo because it contained the right features, or enough of the right ones.
I'm reminded of when a large australian company changed to an OSS desktop solution, and MS decried this as "a blow for choice in the market". No explanation of how this could be possible, but everything is sound bites, a mere snippet of text that cannot possibly convey any real meaning of a situation.
"The... agency has selected an immature and unproven software package" could well be applied to anyone looking towards Longhorn.
Few will make that leap of judgment to understand the hypocrisy.
Darl McBride, Vice President and General Manager of Novell's Extended Networks Group, is responsible for engineering, development, and marketing at the company's Monterey, California site. Since 1988, McBride has held numerous senior management positions within Novell; other industry experience includes assignments with Texas Instruments' Information Systems Group.
He was involved with selling UNIX IP away from Novell when he was with them. He then shifted piece by piece into a prime position at SCO, and suddenly he has control over IP he's worked with for decades. McBride isn't just a newcomer to all of this who saw a quick buck to be made, I believe he's been planning this for a long, long time. 10 years or more. He's sticking with it because to him it's personal.
Most normal people would have flipped up the keyboard with the 2 latches there, inserted the airport card, then replaced the keyboard. No unscrewing required.
Far be it for me to suggest the easy way of doing things however.
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Care to explain how AmigaOS is now at 4.0 while they've "never released an update ever again"?. to my mind that's at least 3 major revisions of the OS after the first. There were many in between also
sounds like he's referring to exactly what gentoo is.
Or am I missing something?
http://www.rit.edu/~axf5564/fwb/project2/proj2hist ory.html
Frankly, You don't know history... The Xerox Alto, was first released in 1981. The Mac, in January 1984. EG: About 3 years later. Not Ten. But the trueth is inconveneint to a revisionist like you, eh?
BWAAHAHAH. 1981 hey? Try for a little reality, before accusing others of "revisionism". The xerox Star came out in 1981, but the first Alto was more like 1973. 1973 is more than 10 years before the first mac on January 24 1984.
The Alto was released in 1981 only if the apple Mac was released in 1992.
Apple revisionists, now trying to deny what year it is. Classic... and very very typical
So you want to rewrite history by saying Apple was first?
Nice try. The first Alto was more than 10 years BEFORE the first mac. If there's one thing I fucking hate it's Apple revisionists trying to rewrite history.
Take a google around and read. learn. You might just ignite a spark of intelligence.
So often I see credit for "the gui" going to Apple, when it's these guys who should be getting the real credit. More work in GUI design, more original thought and more of the first hard yards in GUI systems were put in by the Alto originators than Apple's work, which was just in mass marketing an already existing product.
Kudos to them I say
Neither of them can run any Linux except for MkLinux, which was an aborted Apple attempt at Linux (one of their less well known screwups). If you're happy using a pre-2.0 kernel and utilities 7 years out of date be my guest.
Case modding is cool among the same kind of morons in the geek community as the morons in car enthusiast communities that Rice things up.
I know a guy who has a nissan skyline with flames up both sides, a yellow stripe over the roof, stickered-out headlights, a body kit that looks like it was made for a car twice the size, and wheels with low profile rubber and suspension so hard that going over the smallest bump throws the car around and gives tall passengers a very real possibility of neck injury from bumping heads on the roof. Not only that but a stereo that's so loud its painful to listen to, and a rear wing that intrudes badly on vision out the back.
What's his computer? a goddamned neon-covered blue-LED bestowed box with more fans than you could possibly need in anything this side of a 256-way POWER4 box, windows, UV stickers and a paint job that looks like it was applied by a 4 year old with out of date paint and a worn out paintbrush.
I find it hilarious when faced with the fact a far cheaper machine runs quieter and faster, he uses the excuse of being an individual and putting his own 'mark' on what he owns. Pity both the car and the case mod look like every other ricer and unoriginal case mod out there.
It'll be nice to see you proven wrong in the end. I know more than one AmigaOS developer, and that's not what they've toldme.
wtf? I just said they've had delay after delay and bullshit after bullshit for 4 years. Are you denying this? have you magically somehow got a developer friend who pulled a copy of AmigaOS4 out of his ass and gave it to you in these last few years? no you don't.
And if you believe a developer that tells you anything different to the reality that AmigaOS4 is not out yet, like I've stated, then you're on drugs. Please share.
But january 2004 will be very exciting for amiga owners, believe me
Typical Amiga user vague fanatacism. Hinting at AmigaOS4 coming out, but saying it vaguely enough that you can later deny that's what you meant?
Let me guess, your Amiga tshirts will finally arrive?
bwahaha!. This is great cheap entertainment. so sue me.
I vote AmigaOS4
Back in 1999, there were slides shown at shows through europe, showing the progress and plans for AmigaOS4.0. All going smoothly, they told us. And we waited, and waited, and a year later "On track and rockin'!". Yes, not long to go.
Then we find out nobody started anything until 2002 anyway.
Now it's coming up to 2004, and it's still only just out. It's hit beta though, and finally boots
It's been hilarious visiting all the Amiga boards and hearing the faithful and supposed "developers" who're in on the know how tell me I'm wrong when I say it's all hype, smoke and mirrors, and it'll be out within a month... or two. I've been doing that 4 years now and still there's nothing to show for it.
I'm sure it'll come eventually, but If anyone related to its marketing says when, do ignore them. They're full of shit.
> Grow up. Settle it by the law.
Yes. SCO should do that instead of lying about their downtime
1. I'll be modded down as flamebait or offtopic, when this is stuff that matters.
2. Apple sell very expensive G4s still
3. x86 compatible "Budget" chips, the cheap bottom of the barrel chips, start at 1.8GHz.
Still stick there at 1.25GHz on your G4s apple? Tsk.
We discussed it yesterday about a fellow named "Smaller"
Now today there's another article by Mr DeLong
the long and the short of it, indeed.
Ughh brainfade day.
Wonder if they truly think about this. the RIAA and their equivalents worldwide can't all be so insanely silly and see that their distribution methods are so outdated that fewer and fewer people are using them. Could they?
I should have said: I wonder if they truly think about what's happening, and see how outdated their distribution is, and that they're going to just keep on having to spend more and more on combating their 'customers' instead of putting original thought into making product people Want to buy instead of product that people Want to copy
The people who represent Canadian artists say everyone who has a hand in transmitting recorded music is liable.
That's the person who copies it, whoever writes the software that copies it (whether p2p, ftp, samba, http), the person who pays for net access, the person who owns the phoneline or cable connection, the ISP, the ISPs between ISPs, the receiving ISP, and all those people again on the receiving end.
Wonder if they truly think about this. the RIAA and their equivalents worldwide can't all be so insanely silly and see that their distribution methods are so outdated that fewer and fewer people are using them. Could they?
Uhhhh "how long?" indeed. A normal train carrying just as much traffic and passengers can be derailed by as much as a couple of dimes on the rails, what makes you think there's going to need to be any "finding a way"?
That's the way the world works. Do you still use a carburetor on your car? no... so you had to change there.
1. Teach them to email online. Offline mailing is a false efficiency, all you're doing is delaying the sending.
2. Why are they using bigpond anyway? hundreds of other ISPs are cheaper.
3. 30 emails? perhaps they should cut down. If they only mail 19 at a time then they'll be under the radar.
I don't see what the fuss is about.
Some people don't live in your little miniscule world. Instead of ranting about people's lack of knowledge regarding something so RELATIVELY obscure
And you're exactly what's wrong with the newbies coming into the community, thinking of it as obscure and miniscule, which only goes to show you couldn't be bothered getting your facts straight and realising how things work BEFORE coming in and mouthing off at us. Perhaps you'd be better off with a cuddly macintosh?
Back around 1999 & 2000 there were rumours/news stories about the possibility of being tracked by mobile phones, and much discussion about how it wasn't really technically possible. Phone companies denied it could be done, many law enforcement agencies denied they used it (although some were forthcoming enough to say more). The general consensus was that it was something out of the XFiles.
Now it's commercial a scant 3 years later. Who'd have guessed.
I think anyone who wishes to look at the reality of Apple falsity should
Apple state on their website that expose is an example of their innovation
Copied from an open source project again Apple and claim it as your own "innovation"?
I think not.
One more reason I FUCKING HATE THE COMPANY. Thieves they are. Pity the authors of metacity didn't patent expose
Certainly. You can look at it from anywhere between two extremes. "Open Office still does not compete with MS Office feature for feature" and "Open Office is not as bloated as MS Office".
Not everyone needs all of the features MS Office "Offers". It's just another product with a wide range of features available to users, and it would be insane to suggest every user needed all features.
More than likely the Israeli decision went to OOo because it contained the right features, or enough of the right ones.
I'm reminded of when a large australian company changed to an OSS desktop solution, and MS decried this as "a blow for choice in the market". No explanation of how this could be possible, but everything is sound bites, a mere snippet of text that cannot possibly convey any real meaning of a situation.
... agency has selected an immature and unproven software package" could well be applied to anyone looking towards Longhorn.
"The
Few will make that leap of judgment to understand the hypocrisy.
He used to work at Novell.
Darl McBride, Vice President and General Manager of Novell's Extended Networks Group, is responsible for engineering, development, and marketing at the company's Monterey, California site. Since 1988, McBride has held numerous senior management positions within Novell;
other industry experience includes assignments with Texas Instruments' Information Systems Group.
He was involved with selling UNIX IP away from Novell when he was with them. He then shifted piece by piece into a prime position at SCO, and suddenly he has control over IP he's worked with for decades. McBride isn't just a newcomer to all of this who saw a quick buck to be made, I believe he's been planning this for a long, long time. 10 years or more. He's sticking with it because to him it's personal.
Yeah, I'd say if you
Most normal people would have flipped up the keyboard with the 2 latches there, inserted the airport card, then replaced the keyboard. No unscrewing required.
Far be it for me to suggest the easy way of doing things however.