Sometimes fast, sometimes slow. That's just the way it is. Sometimes Nautilus and GNOME felt faster under Debian than the Finder and OSX do.
Different applications behave different ways. For instance, on a 700MHz G4 iMac w/768MB of RAM, Photoshop Elements running under classic feels more responsive than Photoshop for OSX.
The move from Puma (10.1) to Jaguar made my PowerBook G3 feel slower in many ways. I'm not sure why though. But that's just the way it feels to me.
As for the interface, if you've got a newer mac and have the ability to use QuartzExtreme it's quite zippy indeed.
#1 pack shit up where you find it in your apartment #2 move it to you new apartment #3 unpack it according to where it used to be in your old apartment
tip: go to target and buy a shitload of big rubbermaid containers, they're cheaper than getting shitty cardboard boxes from Uhaul - they are also water proof, reusable, have handles, don't need tape, etc.
I don't think any trade show organizers are going to be willing to go up against IDG and try to compete with MacWorld, at least not at the same time.
Anyone remember the whole LinuxWorld / Bazaar fiasco? Both were great shows, but honestly, third party companies don't have the cash to make appearances at two closely related shows that happened around the same time.
That's what the reaction will be. Because they'll be waiting for Mac OS X to finish booting. OSX fsck's the file systems itself while it boots up. first it fscks the main drive/partition and then after the boot process starts up (and you see the pretty OSX start up screen with the progress bar) it checks other drives/partitions.
So, thankfully, AOL Grandmas running OSX all over the world would not ever have to see the command line.
In high school my chem teacher placed a bowl of water on his desk at the front of the room. He then proceded to place a large plexiglass/plastic shield (about 3.5 or 4 feet high, three feet wide and curved) in front of the bowl to separate the fragile students from the harmless water.
Well, then he takes out a small container with oil and a chunk of something (yes, sodium) in it. Opens it up, cuts off a chunk, tosses it in the bowl and joins the class on the proper side of the shield.
What happened was that the chunk of sodium turned into a small, burning speedboat that sped around the surface of the water on the bowl. It shot of a whole lot of sparks and balls of fire. One of those balls of fire hit the sheild and started burning a hole in it. Another made the leap over the shield and onto a student's desk, who then just kinda stared at it in amazement and then backed his chair away.
I think he left the classroom with a little less trust for our teacher that day. At least it didn't land in his lap, or on his head.
But, my point is, I've often wondered if that kind of behavior could be duplicated on a grander scale with a large chunk of sodium and a nice calm lake.
Mac OS 9 is no longer being actively developed by Apple, therefore there will be no drivers for new hardware, therefore it will not boot.
Just like Mac OS 7/8 will not boot on current Mac hardware. I know, I've tried. I use a much older Mac (Quadra 700) to play some really old games (Pax Imperia) that no longer work properly in Mac OS 9.
The Quadra 700 Macintosh that I got in 1991 had a 500MB hard drive. Unless you meant 1985, not 1995? Then again, in 1985 you could get a Mac XL with a 10MB hard drive.
I would guess the distinction to be that the used computers are usually older models, and have seen some wear and tear. The computers that Zettabyte were selling are not used, they purchased them from Apple, or Apple resellers. I think the problem is that they probably did not have any kind of formal "reseller" agreement with Apple. It certainly seems this way from reading the article on maccentral...
"We filled most of the orders; there was a certain point in time where I was not able to acquire any more eMacs and because of that some of the orders did have to be canceled and the money refunded to the customer," said Thompson.
I'm guessing that they were just purchasing them either from Apple directly, through Apple stores or perhaps other resellers like MacMall, MacWarehouse, etc. Then again, I could be completely wrong about this.
You will learn that Apple told them to stop selling the upgraded devices, and that now they are going to sell kits instead, and perhaps a service where customers can send in their eMac to get it upgraded. They are not "shut down" or closed, or out of business by any means.
I don't see the big deal in this at all. If someone were to take boxed Dells and modify them and resell them, I think Dell would have a problem with that too... But, then again, what about the rack mounted Quicksilvers that Terra Soft sells as the GVS 9000? They're repackaged Power Macs.
Honestly, I don't see why the heck people don't just buy an external DVD-R. SuperDrives are too slow anyways. It's convenient, yes, but limiting. The built-in CDRW is 24/16/32 or something like that. Aren't the SuperDrives 4 speed?
Ironically enough, you can still get to the order page by going here
It didn't have transactions, and the only way to get them now is to use InnoDB
(this is NOT used by default), which isn't completely integrated. InnoDB and BDB are taken from
other projects, and would be better on their own.
If you'll be so kind as to just read through innodb.com, you'll note that InnoDB was Heikki
Tuuri's project at the University of Helsinki, and he has since founded a company to develop InnoDB
specifically as a part of MySQL. So, why would InnoDB be better on its own?
Also, did you forget that PostgreSQL was initially a project at Berkeley? Is there something
wrong with using code from other projects? If you think there is, perhaps you don't understand
what open source and free software are...
MySQL developers have made claims that transactions and rollbacks are a bad thing! I kid you not.
Got a url where we can read this?
They claimed one could have atomicity without rollback. Okay, so what do you do if a SQL statement
which is part of a (user emulated) "transaction" fails. You are stuck halfway through, or else you
might have to do a SQL statement that undoes what you did (good luck). And if that SQL statement
fails, you are hosed.
Now that's actually something I agree with. Although there are ways to work around it.
MySQL does not (by default) support Atomicity, Consistancy, Isolation and Durability (ACID).
Download the mysql-max build and BAM! there it is...
Their developers appear to not know the meaning of these terms.
Those are some harsh words. Care to back that up with some evidence?
MySQL isn't truly open source.
So.... The GPL isn't open source?
MySQL isn't a real database, it is a SQL interface to a file system. MySQL isn't much better
than using flat files, and due to the complexity, is often worse.
What is and what is not a "real database" is quite a subjective and personal opinion. Considering
that every single database out there messes up the SQL "standard" in some way or another, are any
of them a "real database"?
PostgreSQL has none of these problems. And the performance is much better than the old versions.
When PostgreSQL has a replication system as nice as MySQL's, and can then scale easily,
I'll check it out. And, no, pgreplicator is not good enough [yet].
Only use MySQL if you don't care about your data. Yeah, it might be fine for a web counter where
if it gets hosed, big deal.
Or read some documentation and learn how to use it properly just like thousands of other people
do. This site that you have posted your opinions on relies heavily on MySQL, are you going to now
demand that Slashdot switch over to PostgreSQL to make you feel better about your views on open
source databases?
If you care about your data and need a REAL database which is actually Open Source, use PostgreSQL.
See this article:
Why Not MySQL.
Straight from the article: "NOTE: This Document was written in May 2000. Thus, it is outdated and
does not represent the latest data concerning MySQL. I will attempt to find time to rewrite this
with more current information soon (August 10th, 2001)"
It's quite useless to point people to an article that is entirely obsolete. Perhaps you also need
to update your view of MySQL. Take another look at it. It really can't hurt. Yes, MySQL is missing
a few things that would make it more convenient to use for "hardcore" database users
(who like PostgreSQL), but they are working on it. Version 4 adds transactions/rollback, etc.
Instead of keeping your perceptions fixed in 1998, open your eyes, visit mysql.com, download the
damn thing and check it out. Then stop spreading misinformation.
I believe that under current Trademark law companies will lose their trademark if they do not defend it. (someone will most likely correct me if i am wrong) So, what's wrong with them defending their trademark? It's their name, they own it. If they don't want you to use it, then they can tell you not to.
They probably don't want their name to be diluted like Scotch Tape, Post-Its, Band-aids, Kleenex, etc. and that's not "monumentally stupid", it's their right. I don't see the point in bitching about a company that's doing what it's supposed to. Microsoft, RIAA and MPAA are worth bitching about... This is just ridiculous.
Sounds like some folks in New Zealand have too much time on their hands.
As stated earlier by someone else, Use Retrospect.
I mean it.
Setup a dedicated box to run Retrospect Server, then install Retrospect Client on all of the workstations. Retrospect will happily backup all your precious data for you, automatically, every day. They won't even have to know it's happening.
You can backup to damn near any media or device you want. Retrospect gives you the best control over your backups.
Hey, how about folks get Ximian Evolution to be stable and work well under OSX first?
I spent a few days compiling all of the stuff that evolution requires using Fink and it works ok, but it's still a tad unstable, and quite slow.
How many people are even using it under OSX anyways?
In my experience it was too slow under XDarwin for everyday use. Hopefully the project to port GTK+ to Quartz will work out and it can run "natively". Perhaps that would be faster. Perhaps I should just get a G4. Perhaps Apple should make an iBook with a G4 so they're affordable. Oh well...
I'm lucky to have a job in this economy right now, and I keep an eye on the market and there is not much else for me in my area. There are many, many, many folks who've got it considerably worse than I do, and I bet each and every one of them would tell you to F#$% OFF or kick you square in the nuts if you asked them for advice on giving American jobs to a third world country.
Perhaps I'm being ignorant. Perhaps not.
Why are you helping the fat rich bastards get richer? Why are you helping them screw American workers?
Labor union for IT/IS workers... Good idea. How much effort would this take?
I have to believe there are a large number of Americans who would love to see an organization of this sort spring up. Perhaps if there was enough force behind this organization it could help to lobby congress against all of this bulls#%t technology legislation they've been passing.
MacOS has always run with the simplicity of giving the [single] user complete access to the entire system. It wasn't until they bought NeXT and started working on OSX (parts of which, like permissions, made it into OS9 to smooth the transition) that permissions were involved in the OS at all.
What does it matter if someone can wreck the entire installation? They could do it before in OS8 and lower. Why does it matter now?
Folks from a *NIX background, like a good portion of the/. readers, obviously object to this because it's not what they're used to. So, they will create their own [admin] account and play nice accordingly. Folks who are primarily from a Mac background may give up on the idea of an admin user and just set a root password and leave that account logged in all the time.
Do you really care if some random mac user wants to be able to trash their system? Do you?
I used this for a while a year or so ago. It's a neat app, but honestly, it's really not a virtual desktop system. All it does is hide other applications. One can have the same functionality, with an easier interface using ASM and command-tabbing through applications.
Personally, I've gotten used to cmd-tab enough that that is pretty much all I use to switch between apps. If there were a true virtual desktop app for OS X (where I can have windows from different apps together on a desktop instead of all windows of one app) then I'd probably use it...
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Sometimes fast, sometimes slow. That's just the way it is. Sometimes Nautilus and GNOME felt faster under Debian than the Finder and OSX do.
Different applications behave different ways. For instance, on a 700MHz G4 iMac w/768MB of RAM, Photoshop Elements running under classic feels more responsive than Photoshop for OSX.
The move from Puma (10.1) to Jaguar made my PowerBook G3 feel slower in many ways. I'm not sure why though. But that's just the way it feels to me.
As for the interface, if you've got a newer mac and have the ability to use QuartzExtreme it's quite zippy indeed.
Does anyone out there use these currently? I'm kinda curious how they perform for web serving.
a year is a long time to wait to move on to the next mission...
As it's already been stated, it's not designed by the car company, but a relative's design company.
Furthermore, it weighs more, it takes up more space and it's a lot uglier than a tiBook.
Nice to see companies trying to flatter Apple though.
#1 pack shit up where you find it in your apartment
#2 move it to you new apartment
#3 unpack it according to where it used to be in your old apartment
tip: go to target and buy a shitload of big rubbermaid containers, they're cheaper than getting shitty cardboard boxes from Uhaul - they are also water proof, reusable, have handles, don't need tape, etc.
I don't think any trade show organizers are going to be willing to go up against IDG and try to compete with MacWorld, at least not at the same time.
Anyone remember the whole LinuxWorld / Bazaar fiasco? Both were great shows, but honestly, third party companies don't have the cash to make appearances at two closely related shows that happened around the same time.
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I've only read skimmed through it a bit while at the store, but everything I read it in was quite helpful and interesting.
That's what the reaction will be. Because they'll be waiting for Mac OS X to finish booting. OSX fsck's the file systems itself while it boots up. first it fscks the main drive/partition and then after the boot process starts up (and you see the pretty OSX start up screen with the progress bar) it checks other drives/partitions.
So, thankfully, AOL Grandmas running OSX all over the world would not ever have to see the command line.
Why is this news? It's been done before.
The original TronBook and it's first cousin
I agree with the Tom7's post, why is someone's eBay item advertisement news?
I can vouch for the skittering effect.
In high school my chem teacher placed a bowl of water on his desk at the front of the room. He then proceded to place a large plexiglass/plastic shield (about 3.5 or 4 feet high, three feet wide and curved) in front of the bowl to separate the fragile students from the harmless water.
Well, then he takes out a small container with oil and a chunk of something (yes, sodium) in it. Opens it up, cuts off a chunk, tosses it in the bowl and joins the class on the proper side of the shield.
What happened was that the chunk of sodium turned into a small, burning speedboat that sped around the surface of the water on the bowl. It shot of a whole lot of sparks and balls of fire. One of those balls of fire hit the sheild and started burning a hole in it. Another made the leap over the shield and onto a student's desk, who then just kinda stared at it in amazement and then backed his chair away.
I think he left the classroom with a little less trust for our teacher that day. At least it didn't land in his lap, or on his head.
But, my point is, I've often wondered if that kind of behavior could be duplicated on a grander scale with a large chunk of sodium and a nice calm lake.
If only there were video footage of it...
Mac OS 9 is no longer being actively developed by Apple, therefore there will be no drivers for new hardware, therefore it will not boot.
Just like Mac OS 7/8 will not boot on current Mac hardware. I know, I've tried. I use a much older Mac (Quadra 700) to play some really old games (Pax Imperia) that no longer work properly in Mac OS 9.
So, what's the big deal?
The Quadra 700 Macintosh that I got in 1991 had a 500MB hard drive. Unless you meant 1985, not 1995? Then again, in 1985 you could get a Mac XL with a 10MB hard drive.
I would guess the distinction to be that the used computers are usually older models, and have seen some wear and tear. The computers that Zettabyte were selling are not used, they purchased them from Apple, or Apple resellers. I think the problem is that they probably did not have any kind of formal "reseller" agreement with Apple. It certainly seems this way from reading the article on maccentral...
"We filled most of the orders; there was a certain point in time where I was not able to acquire any more eMacs and because of that some of the orders did have to be canceled and the money refunded to the customer," said Thompson.
I'm guessing that they were just purchasing them either from Apple directly, through Apple stores or perhaps other resellers like MacMall, MacWarehouse, etc. Then again, I could be completely wrong about this.
Go read MacCentral.
You will learn that Apple told them to stop selling the upgraded devices, and that now they are going to sell kits instead, and perhaps a service where customers can send in their eMac to get it upgraded. They are not "shut down" or closed, or out of business by any means.
I don't see the big deal in this at all. If someone were to take boxed Dells and modify them and resell them, I think Dell would have a problem with that too... But, then again, what about the rack mounted Quicksilvers that Terra Soft sells as the GVS 9000? They're repackaged Power Macs.
Honestly, I don't see why the heck people don't just buy an external DVD-R. SuperDrives are too slow anyways. It's convenient, yes, but limiting. The built-in CDRW is 24/16/32 or something like that. Aren't the SuperDrives 4 speed?
Ironically enough, you can still get to the order page by going here
Here's another vote for Disk Copy.app. Very simple and easy to use. If you need to encrypt only a few files, try Puzzle Palace.
If you'll be so kind as to just read through innodb.com, you'll note that InnoDB was Heikki Tuuri's project at the University of Helsinki, and he has since founded a company to develop InnoDB specifically as a part of MySQL. So, why would InnoDB be better on its own?
Also, did you forget that PostgreSQL was initially a project at Berkeley? Is there something wrong with using code from other projects? If you think there is, perhaps you don't understand what open source and free software are...
Got a url where we can read this?
Now that's actually something I agree with. Although there are ways to work around it.
Download the mysql-max build and BAM! there it is...
Those are some harsh words. Care to back that up with some evidence?
So.... The GPL isn't open source?
What is and what is not a "real database" is quite a subjective and personal opinion. Considering that every single database out there messes up the SQL "standard" in some way or another, are any of them a "real database"?
When PostgreSQL has a replication system as nice as MySQL's, and can then scale easily, I'll check it out. And, no, pgreplicator is not good enough [yet].
Or read some documentation and learn how to use it properly just like thousands of other people do. This site that you have posted your opinions on relies heavily on MySQL, are you going to now demand that Slashdot switch over to PostgreSQL to make you feel better about your views on open source databases?
Straight from the article: "NOTE: This Document was written in May 2000. Thus, it is outdated and does not represent the latest data concerning MySQL. I will attempt to find time to rewrite this with more current information soon (August 10th, 2001)"It's quite useless to point people to an article that is entirely obsolete. Perhaps you also need to update your view of MySQL. Take another look at it. It really can't hurt. Yes, MySQL is missing a few things that would make it more convenient to use for "hardcore" database users (who like PostgreSQL), but they are working on it. Version 4 adds transactions/rollback, etc. Instead of keeping your perceptions fixed in 1998, open your eyes, visit mysql.com, download the damn thing and check it out. Then stop spreading misinformation.
I believe that under current Trademark law companies will lose their trademark if they do not defend it. (someone will most likely correct me if i am wrong) So, what's wrong with them defending their trademark? It's their name, they own it. If they don't want you to use it, then they can tell you not to.
They probably don't want their name to be diluted like Scotch Tape, Post-Its, Band-aids, Kleenex, etc. and that's not "monumentally stupid", it's their right. I don't see the point in bitching about a company that's doing what it's supposed to. Microsoft, RIAA and MPAA are worth bitching about... This is just ridiculous.
Sounds like some folks in New Zealand have too much time on their hands.
As stated earlier by someone else, Use Retrospect.
I mean it.
Setup a dedicated box to run Retrospect Server, then install Retrospect Client on all of the workstations. Retrospect will happily backup all your precious data for you, automatically, every day. They won't even have to know it's happening.
You can backup to damn near any media or device you want. Retrospect gives you the best control over your backups.
www.dantz.com
Hey, how about folks get Ximian Evolution to be stable and work well under OSX first?
I spent a few days compiling all of the stuff that evolution requires using Fink and it works ok, but it's still a tad unstable, and quite slow.
How many people are even using it under OSX anyways?
In my experience it was too slow under XDarwin for everyday use. Hopefully the project to port GTK+ to Quartz will work out and it can run "natively". Perhaps that would be faster. Perhaps I should just get a G4. Perhaps Apple should make an iBook with a G4 so they're affordable. Oh well...
I totally agree with the FU sentiment.
I'm lucky to have a job in this economy right now, and I keep an eye on the market and there is not much else for me in my area. There are many, many, many folks who've got it considerably worse than I do, and I bet each and every one of them would tell you to F#$% OFF or kick you square in the nuts if you asked them for advice on giving American jobs to a third world country.
Perhaps I'm being ignorant. Perhaps not.
Why are you helping the fat rich bastards get richer? Why are you helping them screw American workers?
Labor union for IT/IS workers... Good idea. How much effort would this take?
I have to believe there are a large number of Americans who would love to see an organization of this sort spring up. Perhaps if there was enough force behind this organization it could help to lobby congress against all of this bulls#%t technology legislation they've been passing.
Where do I sign up?
MacOS has always run with the simplicity of giving the [single] user complete access to the entire system. It wasn't until they bought NeXT and started working on OSX (parts of which, like permissions, made it into OS9 to smooth the transition) that permissions were involved in the OS at all.
/. readers, obviously object to this because it's not what they're used to. So, they will create their own [admin] account and play nice accordingly. Folks who are primarily from a Mac background may give up on the idea of an admin user and just set a root password and leave that account logged in all the time.
What does it matter if someone can wreck the entire installation? They could do it before in OS8 and lower. Why does it matter now?
Folks from a *NIX background, like a good portion of the
Do you really care if some random mac user wants to be able to trash their system? Do you?
I used this for a while a year or so ago. It's a neat app, but honestly, it's really not a virtual desktop system. All it does is hide other applications. One can have the same functionality, with an easier interface using ASM and command-tabbing through applications.
Personally, I've gotten used to cmd-tab enough that that is pretty much all I use to switch between apps. If there were a true virtual desktop app for OS X (where I can have windows from different apps together on a desktop instead of all windows of one app) then I'd probably use it...
awesome!