There are already reasonable wysiwyg editors for linux. Some of them are okay. What we NEED is a reasonable slicing program like Fireworks. At the moment, Fireworks is the only thing keeping me using Windows. I like Mike Robertson. He's an interesting cat.
But he needs to understand that a little investment in R&D would further the cause a little more than repackaging existing stuff.
That said,
It's good to see someone do something to composer. It hasn't seen a major update in awhile.
The thing that gets me about this whole thing is that SCO of all people decided to go the route of sayijng IBM doesn't have a claim because of the selective enforcement of the GPL. If that were valid, one could point out the selective enforcement of the AT&T licenses. But that means nothing here. Preaching to the quire and all.
Are you high?
Mandrake 9.1 never hurt CDROM drives, many of the same drives that are now being destroyed under 9.2 were fine under Mandrake 9.1. This is hardly the fault of the manufacturer. Rather, it apears to be lazy programmers at Mandrake. Maybe it was all those ads they put in their installer... Crap, mandrake 9.2 is so messed up, I switched to Debian.
Agreed. Those messenger popups are the most annoying things in the world! How could anyone possibly defend the right of anyone with an internet connection to send spam to your computer, with no recourse to you what so ever?
Many users have no idea how to turn this off. I know someone who dealt with these damn things for a year. She was grateful when I turned them off!
I've been in the industry for a decade now, and to date have only seen one legitimate use of this service. Rather than talk about how stupid AOL is for turning messenger off, we should give them a freaking award!
So you're commenting on the propriatary popup patent potetion? Poo, these patetnts have been propetually profligate. Perhaps this the pinical of the panic over the propriatatary popup patent... One can only ponder the perpindicularness (?) of the problem.
Well, it's nothing new. Win Trolls have been saying stuff like that for months now on the COLA group. The thing the gets me about it is not that it's said, but how the open source people react to it. Rather than shunning it off as the load of hogwash it is, they get offended and post five hundred articles on Slashdot about it. I'm not saying if you ignore it that these people will go away, but they might not post this sort of thing as often if they didn't get such notariaty from this sort of thing.
Sensible people know that this argument doesn't hold water. And those are the only people that count.
Such is the way of the universe I guess. There are idiots everywhere.
Yeah, but by that token, you could say that Linux is far more popular than windows simply because it gets more press than Windows does.
Funny this should come up. In regard to Linux popularity. Even if it were the most used operating system in the world, how would we know? It's not like we can get an accurate count of how many Linux boxes there are. Attempting to count the number of downloads doesn't work because one download can run on a thousand machines. The number of linux boxes shipped is tiny compared to the number in circulation.
So I'll pose this question: How do we know that Linux isn't in wider circulation than Windows or Itron for that matter?
Of course they could shut down mono if they wanted to.
They have a C# patent which they could choose to enforce if they wanted to, and several method patents they could enforce on other key pieces of the framework. But I don't think Linux would be the big loser here. Linux doesn't need Mono, C#, or.NET. But Microsoft does. With Novell in charge of Mono now, it would seem to me that M$ would be the big loser in the event that they ever decided to shut mono off. It would hurt them with their standards efforts. It would stifle the already hobbled adoption of C#, and it would generate bad press.
That said, I don't think they will. Microsoft has been lightening up over the last year. Their new "open source development" lab is proof of that. I think they might actually be looking for ways to cash in on the open source movement. Which would make sense from a business standpoint.
Think about it, What better way to test the waters for Microsoft than to let a third party clone their framework. Xamian and Novell take all the risk, and if no one wants it, who cares? But if there is a demand for Microsoft platform stuff that will run on Linux, Microsoft is really the only one that wins.
SCO criticizes the big companies when they don't offer indemnification, yet, they are still critical of these same companies do offer some sort of indemnification.
But I think the flood gates are already open. Soon as other companies realize that all they have to do to raise their stock price is send out letters demanding money from fortune 1000 companies, everyone will do it. And before your know it, people will ignore these letters the same way you and I ignore the useless SPAM we get in our inboxes every day. This whole approach will suddenly look a lot less novel.
I actually e-mailed bob about this article. My big question was, Can sharp business practices and actual innovation co-exist in the same place, at the same time? This time, Bob Cringely was actually kind enough to respond. Below is the actual unedited text of the message I recieved.
It all comes down to what you consider to be the reason the company is in business. Is it to benefit the owners, the managers, the employees, the customers, or the community in which the business resides? While there can be more than one reason, one of those reasons must be larger than the others.
Public companies are supposed to benefit their owners though we've seen a lot of stockholders burned lately by companies where the managers seemed to come out on top. Great companies are supposed to put customers first, but will they do so at the expense of profits? And community, whether it means my town, my country, or the environment, is usually last of all.
Yes, but I think the point of the article was that they do innovate in their own way, but not the way that you might think. That's why it may not be a good thing.
Good shpeel.
You forgot the part about the rebels raping your wife and kids though. And when you're doing it, YOU NEED TO TYPE EVERYTHING IN CAPS and go on for ages without a paragraph break.
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Why aren't people getting as offended over this as they do over the old style votomatics?!
This all seems a lot worse than hanging chads to me.
There are already reasonable wysiwyg editors for linux. Some of them are okay. What we NEED is a reasonable slicing program like Fireworks. At the moment, Fireworks is the only thing keeping me using Windows. I like Mike Robertson. He's an interesting cat. But he needs to understand that a little investment in R&D would further the cause a little more than repackaging existing stuff. That said, It's good to see someone do something to composer. It hasn't seen a major update in awhile.
Well, when it costs more to buy new cartridges than it does to buy a new printer, something is seriously wrong.
Most bubblejet users could care less about print quality, except maybe those of us that own epson photo printers or something like that.
If we wanted quality, we would not own this kind of printer which has low print quality to begin with.
There's no reason the buy the more expensive stuff when your printer only cost you 24 bucks to begin with.
Boldly going where no university student has gone before. Sounds like fun. I certainly never would have thought to do it.
The thing that gets me about this whole thing is that SCO of all people decided to go the route of sayijng IBM doesn't have a claim because of the selective enforcement of the GPL. If that were valid, one could point out the selective enforcement of the AT&T licenses. But that means nothing here. Preaching to the quire and all.
And we still don't have anything close to an accurate picture of how many linux users there are out there.
Are you high? Mandrake 9.1 never hurt CDROM drives, many of the same drives that are now being destroyed under 9.2 were fine under Mandrake 9.1. This is hardly the fault of the manufacturer. Rather, it apears to be lazy programmers at Mandrake. Maybe it was all those ads they put in their installer... Crap, mandrake 9.2 is so messed up, I switched to Debian.
Agreed. Those messenger popups are the most annoying things in the world! How could anyone possibly defend the right of anyone with an internet connection to send spam to your computer, with no recourse to you what so ever?
Many users have no idea how to turn this off. I know someone who dealt with these damn things for a year. She was grateful when I turned them off!
I've been in the industry for a decade now, and to date have only seen one legitimate use of this service. Rather than talk about how stupid AOL is for turning messenger off, we should give them a freaking award!
So you're commenting on the propriatary popup patent potetion? Poo, these patetnts have been propetually profligate. Perhaps this the pinical of the panic over the propriatatary popup patent... One can only ponder the perpindicularness (?) of the problem.
Well, it's nothing new. Win Trolls have been saying stuff like that for months now on the COLA group. The thing the gets me about it is not that it's said, but how the open source people react to it. Rather than shunning it off as the load of hogwash it is, they get offended and post five hundred articles on Slashdot about it. I'm not saying if you ignore it that these people will go away, but they might not post this sort of thing as often if they didn't get such notariaty from this sort of thing.
Sensible people know that this argument doesn't hold water. And those are the only people that count.
Such is the way of the universe I guess. There are idiots everywhere.
Spoken like a true trekie.
Yeah, but by that token, you could say that Linux is far more popular than windows simply because it gets more press than Windows does.
Funny this should come up.
In regard to Linux popularity. Even if it were the most used operating system in the world, how would we know? It's not like we can get an accurate count of how many Linux boxes there are. Attempting to count the number of downloads doesn't work because one download can run on a thousand machines. The number of linux boxes shipped is tiny compared to the number in circulation.
So I'll pose this question:
How do we know that Linux isn't in wider circulation than Windows or Itron for that matter?
Of course they could shut down mono if they wanted to.
.NET. But Microsoft does. With Novell in charge of Mono now, it would seem to me that M$ would be the big loser in the event that they ever decided to shut mono off. It would hurt them with their standards efforts. It would stifle the already hobbled adoption of C#, and it would generate bad press.
They have a C# patent which they could choose to enforce if they wanted to, and several method patents they could enforce on other key pieces of the framework. But I don't think Linux would be the big loser here. Linux doesn't need Mono, C#, or
That said,
I don't think they will. Microsoft has been lightening up over the last year. Their new "open source development" lab is proof of that. I think they might actually be looking for ways to cash in on the open source movement. Which would make sense from a business standpoint.
Think about it,
What better way to test the waters for Microsoft than to let a third party clone their framework. Xamian and Novell take all the risk, and if no one wants it, who cares? But if there is a demand for Microsoft platform stuff that will run on Linux, Microsoft is really the only one that wins.
Very true.
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It's a very interesting case. They've been attempting something like this for some time. It's interesting that this made it to court.
I wonder what this suit means to other unauthorized clients like Kazaa Lite and GIFT.
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It's funny.
SCO criticizes the big companies when they don't offer indemnification, yet, they are still critical of these same companies do offer some sort of indemnification.
But I think the flood gates are already open. Soon as other companies realize that all they have to do to raise their stock price is send out letters demanding money from fortune 1000 companies, everyone will do it. And before your know it, people will ignore these letters the same way you and I ignore the useless SPAM we get in our inboxes every day. This whole approach will suddenly look a lot less novel.
Politicians aren't qualified to do this.
This from the people that issued online documentation on how to use a mouse. Interesting...
I wonder what they think they are going to get out of all this? McNealy and the rest of the company are on crack.
Am I missing something?
I was under the distinct impression that ICANN was the only entity entitled to do this sort of thing.
Hah
You're entertaining!
That made my day.
Thanks.
It all comes down to what you consider to be the reason the company is in
business. Is it to benefit the owners, the managers, the employees, the
customers, or the community in which the business resides? While there can
be more than one reason, one of those reasons must be larger than the
others.
Public companies are supposed to benefit their owners though we've seen a
lot of stockholders burned lately by companies where the managers seemed to
come out on top. Great companies are supposed to put customers first, but
will they do so at the expense of profits? And community, whether it means
my town, my country, or the environment, is usually last of all.
I have no answers, only questions.
All the best,
Bob
Yes, but I think the point of the article was that they do innovate in their own way, but not the way that you might think. That's why it may not be a good thing.
Good shpeel. You forgot the part about the rebels raping your wife and kids though. And when you're doing it, YOU NEED TO TYPE EVERYTHING IN CAPS and go on for ages without a paragraph break.
No you didn't, the black jacket makes me invisable :-P
I just so happen to be available. Can you tell me more about your company?