Yeah, but it sounded good though, didn't it? heh... I love the way people here at/. point out things like this.
You're mostly talking about building newer systems. Which is nice. Everyone should be able to build new systems on a regular basis. Think about the benefits that would have for the economy.
But it is the idea that your IT investment is disposable that is the problem, and that is where I take issue.
The reality of the situation is that COM has an installed user base in the billions (not millions) with computers over two years old running everywhere, simply ignoring the last ten years of technology in the hopes that every NT through Me user will suddenly upgrade their systems because you say so is simply irresponsible.
Yeah, but platforms aside, I think m$ really alienated their core user base with.net. This should be a lesson to anyone who releases a software product over multiple versions, always implement backwards compatibility.
Being a Winvicate isn't easy, you know. It takes time and money, and I don't think Microsoft really understands how dedicated you have to be to actually defend their actions and business practices, and continue using their second and third rate products.
My hat goes off to those rich enough, and naive enough to keep the.NET bandwagon rolling!
I wonder if he'll get lampooned in Japan by the IT people there like he has here in the US and the rest of the english speaking world. If I only spoke Japanese....
The thing I thought was funny was that the RIAA didn't dispute the statement that their business model is obsolete, and that they will be replaced like the horse and buggy. Funny that.
This is really interesting. I wonder how hard it would be to miniaturize this technology to create normal sized ink jets that use spray paint. Very cool//
This whole premise ignores one key point. If you can afford to buy a camera phone in japan, wouldn't it stand to reason that you could probably afford to buy the magazines?
Very interesting.
It occurs to me that this could potentially have broader applications in either possible outcome.
The thing I can't believe is why Lexmark doesn't just come out and apologize for doing something dumb. Putting chips like this in printer cartridges to begin with is nothing more than a dirty trick.
Has anyone heard anything about the anti trust case against Lexmark that was filed by scc? Or was it thrown out?
hmm, yes, my evil plan is taking shape. To allude authorities who will be looking for me in the bookstore, I will go to the library and take a picture of every book in there... with my phone!
All the pictures will then be transmitted to my inbox, which has a one megabyte limit, so I will have to rotate pictures every 20 pages! I feel so sinister!
Woo hahahahaha!
I don't want to sound like the kill joy, laughing at everyone's book photo taking fun, but I've actually tried stuff like this. It's not hard to get away with, but I consider my time pretty valuable. That's the big reason I think this kind of behavior is just plain silly.
Do you have any idea how long it takes to copy a book this way? Not to mention that this really isn't what the cameras on the phones are meant to do, so the quality of it is going to be lousy. Wasted bandwidth storing and sending... etc. I have a hard time believing this is a serious problem anywhere.
Going out of your way to go after people who are going out of their way to do something stupid is... well... stupid.
If anyone ever got an entire 400-700 page book by taking a picture of it, I applaud them. They must have had an awful lot of time on their hands.
Could be. But there could be some serious safety problems with nanites if they aren't addressed and worked with now. The bright side is that none of these problems would be hard to solve. I think something like proximity detectors could solve much of it.
Other than that, I think this could be a groovy technology with benefits that really help mankind.
Just a thought.
I'm just saying that they don't have good enough checks and balences in place. It's lazyness on ebay's part.
You must not sell on ebay. If you did, it would scare you that I could get your credit card information by simply saying I'm with a regional police department in a FAX, without even a phone call.
Consenting adults should be able to enter into contracts. But privacy should be enforced a little more tightly. Or at least with some research and/or confirmation of who you're actually giving information to.
Their complete lack of liability for this sort of thing doesn't help either.
Call it babying all you want. I call it bad business.
It's funny that people are still shocked by this. Ebay makes no secret that they will provide any information to ANYONE who asks for it. Really, try faxing them a request for user information, including credit card info, name, address, etc. See what happens. I think it's amazing that we don't have laws preventing this kind of decemination of information. All the more reason to use alternative auction houses. Although, I don't know how well any of them fair.
I'm probably preaching to the quire here, but I've been against this technology for years.
And I would be willing to bet that someone will crach this technology with a software fix two weeks (or less) after it comes out.
This whole scheme reminds me of those hardware locks people used to include with software programs. We all know how well that worked out.
But how does this affect the linux world? I know Linus recently said it was okay to use drm in Linux, but will people actually use it?
I'm thinking that if customers violently reject this kind of DRM technology like they have in the past, it could be just the opening we need to make Linux the leading desktop OS.
Don't you think that someone who has the resources that Intel has would not need to resort to this? That is, if their sys admins are any good. Find this whole thing a bit odd.
This is a pretty big issue. But I don't think it should be regulated by legal means.
Rather, if they don't want people e-mailing them, why not just make the e-mail addresses internal, or block unauthorized e-mail addresses.
Going about it the way they are would be like leaving the door to my house or car wide open and then getting mad when someone comes in and looks around.
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That's interesting. Thanks for the link.
SCO price as of this moment: $11.16.
Warrant price: $1.86.
Current profit: $9.3/share x 210,000 shares = $1,953,000.
Knowing SCO and their cronies will be crushed by IBM the minute this thing hits court: priceless
Because they're up to something. What do microsoft and sun both have in common? An interest in seeing linux dissapear. Think about it...
That's; BZzZzzt; not; BZzZzzt; funny!
Yeah, but it sounded good though, didn't it? /. point out things like this.
heh... I love the way people here at
You're mostly talking about building newer systems. Which is nice. Everyone should be able to build new systems on a regular basis. Think about the benefits that would have for the economy.
But it is the idea that your IT investment is disposable that is the problem, and that is where I take issue.
The reality of the situation is that COM has an installed user base in the billions (not millions) with computers over two years old running everywhere, simply ignoring the last ten years of technology in the hopes that every NT through Me user will suddenly upgrade their systems because you say so is simply irresponsible.
Supporting such an idea is even less so.
Yeah, but platforms aside, I think m$ really alienated their core user base with .net. This should be a lesson to anyone who releases a software product over multiple versions, always implement backwards compatibility.
.NET bandwagon rolling!
Being a Winvicate isn't easy, you know.
It takes time and money, and I don't think Microsoft really understands how dedicated you have to be to actually defend their actions and business practices, and continue using their second and third rate products.
My hat goes off to those rich enough, and naive enough to keep the
I wonder if he'll get lampooned in Japan by the IT people there like he has here in the US and the rest of the english speaking world. If I only spoke Japanese....
The thing I thought was funny was that the RIAA didn't dispute the statement that their business model is obsolete, and that they will be replaced like the horse and buggy. Funny that.
I wonder if that would hold up in court.
This is really interesting. I wonder how hard it would be to miniaturize this technology to create normal sized ink jets that use spray paint. Very cool//
This whole premise ignores one key point. If you can afford to buy a camera phone in japan, wouldn't it stand to reason that you could probably afford to buy the magazines?
Very interesting. It occurs to me that this could potentially have broader applications in either possible outcome. The thing I can't believe is why Lexmark doesn't just come out and apologize for doing something dumb. Putting chips like this in printer cartridges to begin with is nothing more than a dirty trick. Has anyone heard anything about the anti trust case against Lexmark that was filed by scc? Or was it thrown out?
Really? Only 20 interesting pages? You're reading the wrong magazines...
I wish I had some monkey to give them. A new Mandrake box with support would be a nice addition to my home network.
hmm, yes, my evil plan is taking shape. To allude authorities who will be looking for me in the bookstore, I will go to the library and take a picture of every book in there... with my phone! All the pictures will then be transmitted to my inbox, which has a one megabyte limit, so I will have to rotate pictures every 20 pages! I feel so sinister! Woo hahahahaha!
I don't want to sound like the kill joy, laughing at everyone's book photo taking fun, but I've actually tried stuff like this. It's not hard to get away with, but I consider my time pretty valuable. That's the big reason I think this kind of behavior is just plain silly.
Do you have any idea how long it takes to copy a book this way? Not to mention that this really isn't what the cameras on the phones are meant to do, so the quality of it is going to be lousy. Wasted bandwidth storing and sending... etc. I have a hard time believing this is a serious problem anywhere.
Going out of your way to go after people who are going out of their way to do something stupid is... well... stupid.
If anyone ever got an entire 400-700 page book by taking a picture of it, I applaud them. They must have had an awful lot of time on their hands.
Isn't there some kind of award for that?
Could be. But there could be some serious safety problems with nanites if they aren't addressed and worked with now. The bright side is that none of these problems would be hard to solve. I think something like proximity detectors could solve much of it. Other than that, I think this could be a groovy technology with benefits that really help mankind. Just a thought.
I was never all that happy with Speakeasy as an ISP, but they do make the best breve in Seattle (well they did last time I was there). :)
I'm just saying that they don't have good enough checks and balences in place. It's lazyness on ebay's part. You must not sell on ebay. If you did, it would scare you that I could get your credit card information by simply saying I'm with a regional police department in a FAX, without even a phone call. Consenting adults should be able to enter into contracts. But privacy should be enforced a little more tightly. Or at least with some research and/or confirmation of who you're actually giving information to. Their complete lack of liability for this sort of thing doesn't help either. Call it babying all you want. I call it bad business.
It's funny that people are still shocked by this. Ebay makes no secret that they will provide any information to ANYONE who asks for it. Really, try faxing them a request for user information, including credit card info, name, address, etc. See what happens. I think it's amazing that we don't have laws preventing this kind of decemination of information. All the more reason to use alternative auction houses. Although, I don't know how well any of them fair.
You know, for someone who was there, he has an odd recolection of the facts. Anoyne else noticed how fat gates has been getting lately?
I'm probably preaching to the quire here,
but I've been against this technology for years.
And I would be willing to bet that someone will crach this technology with a software fix two weeks (or less) after it comes out.
This whole scheme reminds me of those hardware locks people used to include with software programs. We all know how well that worked out.
But how does this affect the linux world?
I know Linus recently said it was okay to use drm in Linux, but will people actually use it?
I'm thinking that if customers violently reject this kind of DRM technology like they have in the past, it could be just the opening we need to make Linux the leading desktop OS.
Just a thought.
Don't you think that someone who has the resources that Intel has would not need to resort to this? That is, if their sys admins are any good. Find this whole thing a bit odd.
Great. I just trespassed in your inbox. Sue me...
I confess, I posted... but I didn't do it on purpose. It was the one armed typist! yeah... that's it.... Typist of terror? That's got a ring to it.
This is a pretty big issue. But I don't think it should be regulated by legal means.
Rather, if they don't want people e-mailing them, why not just make the e-mail addresses internal, or block unauthorized e-mail addresses.
Going about it the way they are would be like leaving the door to my house or car wide open and then getting mad when someone comes in and looks around.
Stupid...