I've noticed a lot of talk lately about Linux market share. Because of it's free model, it seems to me that tracking and managing Linux market share would be incredibly difficult to do.
Is there any way of reliable way of knowing how many Linux boxes are actually out there besides sales statistics from hardware vendors and those of the major distros?
Depends what day you catch them on. This whole issue has really cost them credibility among people that matter. How are they going to look when this thing hits court and is thrown out?
The thing I don't understand is how a free market is even possible when people can patent ideas. I don't remember who said it, but it's like allowing rhyming word patents for poets. Think what you will about MICROS~1 (and their inability to actually _win_ an IP law suit lately), but this issue affects all of us.
There's more to it than that. The M$ lawyers haven't been able to win a law suit lately. First SQL server, now this whole copy protection thing on XBOX that came up a couple weeks ago.
Microsoft is in deep trouble for flagrant patent violations (regardless as to what you think of patent laws in the US). And with companies threatening to sue their user base, there was really nothing else they could have done. Oh, and it gives them something to fling at Linux. hah hah.
I think that's why it is funny. In fact I think it would be even funnier if the nigerion business man scam actually said told you don't have a choice... dear frend... heh heh
This whole thing actually reminds me more of IM mugging. You know, people going around on AIM saying stuff like "this is a hold up bitch, gimme yo password!@"
And their continued existance means that it must work... well, at least some of the time.
Is it 2005 now?
I thought we were running out in 2003!
Oh no, that's this year, er, it was five years ago. I'll believe it when I see it, and if this article holds true, we should see it long before IP 6 is implemented. Or maybe we'll just push it back again. I'm not holding my breath.
Great!
I would totally go for this too. Now the only problem is actually contacting the Free Software Foundation and convincing them this is a good idea. Anyone know how to do that? I'm a programmer, not a politician!
I doubt it.
If SCO wins this, SCO will attempt to claim BSD and the other variants. If that happens, even Windows is in trouble. M$ probably knows this, but doesn't take this as a long term threat. In the short term, hey, they've sold 8000 windoze 2003 boxes, and they're telling the media that they've dethroned linux on the web server! Woo hoo!
I liked it. I think it's time for a new BSD, maybe something with an easier setup like the newer linux distros would be nice. Manually partitioning a hard drive is scary stuff. But I'm not holding my breath.
The thing I didn't like about the site was that it's not very well designed, and the navigation scheme is confusing. It needs work, but over all, very promising.
Linux is an interesting animal. The funny thing about it is that because of it's very nature, there will never be an accurate record of just how many linux machines are actually out there. Well, not unless you tracked and compiled accurate download statistics from all linux iso download sites. But even then, how do you know how many instalations there were? I've used my copy of mandrake to install linux on 300 workstations locally. So it's reletive I guess.
Anyway, my point was,
How do you know that there aren't more linux pc's out there already? hmmm?
I can't wait!
You know, the motion picture industry is so much smarter than the music industry.
When the music industry starts freaking out about sales, they start suing people.
When the motion picture industry starts freaking out about sales, they start messing with new marketing schemes and incentives that actually give people a reason the buy their products.
I hope we see more of this kind of innovation from the motion picture industry in the coming years.
I think someone said they could awhile back. And it puts the infrastructure in place for them to debut a paid service like business 2.0 is doing now as well.
Good point. But let's assume for a minute that you're right on the second point. Let's say it was a misjudgement.
Why then would they exploit the situation in the NYTimes with full page ads explaining how they are legal and that AIX users should all switch, in turn adding to the FUD themselves.
I wouldn't consider them the "good guys" in this by any means.
As far as open office and Java support, they're still competing with Micros~1 no matter what the situation in the IX world looks like.
I don't really agree with the results of this test. I've been married for five years, and I'm more creative than ever. Of course, it doesn't hurt to have a happy stable relationship with someone who shares many of my interests.
But most geniuses make bad relationship decisions. In fact, most of the other geniuses (especially computer programmers and physicists for some reason) that I know are morons in this area. So how about this.
Marriage itself doesn't necessarily cause brain impotence, bad choices in interpersonal relationships do.
So kids, the moral of the story... Don't think with your dick.
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I've noticed a lot of talk lately about Linux market share. Because of it's free model, it seems to me that tracking and managing Linux market share would be incredibly difficult to do. Is there any way of reliable way of knowing how many Linux boxes are actually out there besides sales statistics from hardware vendors and those of the major distros?
I'm a big fan of using the Altaire for my business applications. My fingers never get tired...
Yeah, but M$ is vulnerable too. Look at the latest patent suit against them.
Depends what day you catch them on. This whole issue has really cost them credibility among people that matter. How are they going to look when this thing hits court and is thrown out?
The thing I don't understand is how a free market is even possible when people can patent ideas. I don't remember who said it, but it's like allowing rhyming word patents for poets. Think what you will about MICROS~1 (and their inability to actually _win_ an IP law suit lately), but this issue affects all of us.
There's more to it than that.
The M$ lawyers haven't been able to win a law suit lately. First SQL server, now this whole copy protection thing on XBOX that came up a couple weeks ago.
Microsoft is in deep trouble for flagrant patent violations (regardless as to what you think of patent laws in the US). And with companies threatening to sue their user base, there was really nothing else they could have done. Oh, and it gives them something to fling at Linux. hah hah.
I think that's why it is funny. In fact I think it would be even funnier if the nigerion business man scam actually said told you don't have a choice... dear frend... heh heh
This whole thing actually reminds me more of IM mugging. You know, people going around on AIM saying stuff like "this is a hold up bitch, gimme yo password!@"
And their continued existance means that it must work... well, at least some of the time.
You're probably right. I just thought it was funny.
Is it 2005 now? I thought we were running out in 2003! Oh no, that's this year, er, it was five years ago. I'll believe it when I see it, and if this article holds true, we should see it long before IP 6 is implemented. Or maybe we'll just push it back again. I'm not holding my breath.
Great! I would totally go for this too. Now the only problem is actually contacting the Free Software Foundation and convincing them this is a good idea. Anyone know how to do that? I'm a programmer, not a politician!
I doubt it. If SCO wins this, SCO will attempt to claim BSD and the other variants. If that happens, even Windows is in trouble. M$ probably knows this, but doesn't take this as a long term threat. In the short term, hey, they've sold 8000 windoze 2003 boxes, and they're telling the media that they've dethroned linux on the web server! Woo hoo!
I liked it. I think it's time for a new BSD, maybe something with an easier setup like the newer linux distros would be nice. Manually partitioning a hard drive is scary stuff. But I'm not holding my breath. The thing I didn't like about the site was that it's not very well designed, and the navigation scheme is confusing. It needs work, but over all, very promising.
What I fail to understand is how not charging for something is unfair competition. Maybe this explains the goverment's views on Linux. Spooky...
I'll do you one better. MinuetOS is a full windowing OS in less than 2MB. http://www.menuetos.org/
Linux is an interesting animal. The funny thing about it is that because of it's very nature, there will never be an accurate record of just how many linux machines are actually out there. Well, not unless you tracked and compiled accurate download statistics from all linux iso download sites. But even then, how do you know how many instalations there were? I've used my copy of mandrake to install linux on 300 workstations locally. So it's reletive I guess. Anyway, my point was, How do you know that there aren't more linux pc's out there already? hmmm?
I can't wait! You know, the motion picture industry is so much smarter than the music industry. When the music industry starts freaking out about sales, they start suing people. When the motion picture industry starts freaking out about sales, they start messing with new marketing schemes and incentives that actually give people a reason the buy their products. I hope we see more of this kind of innovation from the motion picture industry in the coming years.
That does seem like an oddball requirement. /. article where
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You know, elephants are a constant problem when driving. I find myself having to dodge the pink ones on a semi regular basis.
I think someone said they could awhile back. And it puts the infrastructure in place for them to debut a paid service like business 2.0 is doing now as well.
I would pay to see that.
In fact, I think that's what they should call the study.
"Marriage and the suckiness of popular music."
It's got a ring to it, no?
I wonder if there is a correlation between the high divorce rate and the advent of file sharing. That might be worth looking into as well.
More of a muse. But yeah.
You're absolutely right. I think that's a little simplistic, but yeah, thanks for the insight.
Good point.
But let's assume for a minute that you're right on the second point. Let's say it was a misjudgement.
Why then would they exploit the situation in the NYTimes with full page ads explaining how they are legal and that AIX users should all switch, in turn adding to the FUD themselves.
I wouldn't consider them the "good guys" in this by any means.
As far as open office and Java support, they're still competing with Micros~1 no matter what the situation in the IX world looks like.
I don't really agree with the results of this test. I've been married for five years, and I'm more creative than ever. Of course, it doesn't hurt to have a happy stable relationship with someone who shares many of my interests.
But most geniuses make bad relationship decisions. In fact, most of the other geniuses (especially computer programmers and physicists for some reason) that I know are morons in this area. So how about this.
Marriage itself doesn't necessarily cause brain impotence, bad choices in interpersonal relationships do.
So kids, the moral of the story...
Don't think with your dick.
So there.